What will the Bend Over Republicans do with tax cheat Tom Daschle?
Before we get to tax cheat Tom Daschle, let’s recall the names of the Bend Over Republicans who pooh-poohed Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner’s tax troubles and accused critics of “thinking in small political terms.”
On the Senate Finance Committee, B.O. Republicans Mike Crapo, Orrin Hatch, John Cornyn, Olympia Snowe and John Ensign all determined that Geithner’s “tax goofs” worth $43,000 did not disqualify him from the job of overseeing everyone else’s taxes.
On Jan. 26, when the full Senate voted, 10 B.O. Republicans cast their votes in the affirmative for the serial tax evader and bailout failout architect. Those 10 B.O. Republicans were:
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
Ensign (R-NV)
Graham (R-SC)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Shelby (R-AL)
Snowe (R-ME)
Voinovich (R-OH)
What, pray tell, will these apologists for tax evasion do with Tom Daschle? Like Geithner, Daschle pleads ignorance – and only paid back taxes and interest during the vetting process for his Health and Human Services Secretary nomination:
ABC News has learned that the nomination of former Senator Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., to be President Obama’s secretary of health and human services has hit a traffic snarl on its way through the Senate Finance Committee.
The controversy deals with a car and driver lent to Daschle by a wealthy Democratic friend — a chauffeur service the former senator used for years without declaring it on his taxes.
It remains an open question as to whether this is a “speed bump,” as a Democratic Senate ally of Daschle put it, or something more damaging.
After being defeated in his 2004 re-election campaign to the Senate, Daschle in 2005 became a consultant and chairman of the executive advisory board at InterMedia Advisors.
Based in New York City, InterMedia Advisors is a private equity firm founded in part by longtime Daschle friend and Democratic fundraiser Leo Hindery, the former president of the YES network (the New York Yankees’ and New Jersey Devils’ cable television channel).
That same year he began his professional relationship with InterMedia, Daschle began using the services of Hindery’s car and driver.
The Cadillac and driver were never part of Daschle’s official compensation package at InterMedia, but Mr. Daschle — who as Senate majority leader enjoyed the use of a car and driver at taxpayer expense — didn’t declare their services on his income taxes, as tax laws require.
During the vetting process to become HHS secretary, Daschle corrected the tax violation, voluntarily paying $101,943 in back taxes plus interest, working with his accountant to amend his tax returns for 2005 through 2007.
That’s just the tip of the iceberg. Late Friday night, ABC News obtained the Senate Finance Committee report on Daschle, which revealed even more unreported income:
Mr. Daschle also didn’t report $83,333 in consulting income in 2007.
The Senate Finance Committee Report also notes that during the vetting process, President Obama’s Transition Team “identified certain donations that did not qualify as charitable deductions because they were not paid to qualifying organizations. Daschle adjusted his contribution deductions on his amended returns for 2005, 2006 and 2007 to remove these amounts and add additional contributions.” This adjustment meant a reduction in the amount he contributed to charitable foundations of $14,963 from 2005 through 2007.
With the unreported income from the use of a car service in the amounts of $73,031 in 2005, $89,129 in 2006 and $93,096 in 2007; the unreported consulting income of $83,333 in 2007; and the adjusted reductions in charitable contributions, Daschle adds a total of $353,552 in additional income and reduced donations, meaning an additional tax payment of $128,203, in addition to $11,964 in interest.
And then there’s the issue of his travel with an education-loan provider — reported by the WSJ last week:
In part, some Finance Committee staff members are looking at Mr. Daschle’s interaction with EduCap Inc., a nonprofit lender that has faced Internal Revenue Service scrutiny for its lending practices and faces a separate Finance Committee probe into what some on the committee believe to be abuses of its status as a charity. Attempts to get comment from EduCap were unsuccessful.
According to Finance Committee aides, EduCap flew Mr. Daschle on its corporate jet several times, including flights to vacation spots. News of such flights first emerged in 2007, after Mr. Daschle had left the Senate.
The Finance Committee staff is trying to determine whether those flights had a legitimate charitable purpose and whether Mr. Daschle’s presence on board could be justified as a charity project. In that sense, the inquiry may have more to do with EduCap’s tax status than Mr. Daschle’s.
Daschle aides have acknowledged he was on some flights but said there was nothing improper about the trips.
Finance Committee aides are also looking at past tax returns, whose complexity has slowed the vetting process. Mr. Daschle and his wife have numerous business interests. Other people familiar with the nomination say one avenue of inquiry is how he characterized charitable deductions on his income tax returns.
But Daschle’s “naive” mistakes make him more qualified to hold a Cabinet position, remember? That’s the reasoning embraced by the Lindsay Graham wing of the Republican Party. Now, the B.O. Republicans will have to 1) twist themselves in pretzels to find a logical explanation for opposing this new tax cheat with liabilities three times Geithner’s; or 2) assume the downward dog yoga position, approve yet another corrupted Obama nominee, and meekly dub him indispensible and “uniquely qualified” to raise the taxes of other Americans after failing to pay his own.
Screw up, move up. It’s the bipartisan Washington way.
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John Hinderaker finds a silver lining: “Thee good thing about electing a Democrat as President is that, as he nominates fellow Democrats to senior positions in the Executive Branch, millions of dollars in unpaid tax liabilities come to light and are belatedly paid to the IRS, with interest. It is, perhaps, the most tangible advantage of electing Democrats to office.”
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This is really amazing. What happened to the most ethical thing-a-ma-bob?
I’m sure he is the only one qualified in ‘whole’ country–Geeeez!
Michelle – up early and fighting the good battle, as usual.
I am thoroughly embarrassed that my Senator, John Ensign, voted for Geithner. He justified his vote (rationalized it?) by saying that Geithner was better than who Obama would send up next.
I called and wrote beforehand that he should stand on principle.
His vote didn’t make a difference anyway!!!
Really pathetic.
Free car service is one thing, but FORGETTING about “consulting income of $83,333 in 2007″ ??/!!@@##
Anyone who can forget about $83,333 is not qualified to be a janitor, let alone a department head.
The audacity of some people!!!!
Oh, wait … that’s the theme of this administration, isn’t it?
The audacity of amnesia?
The GOP rep who introduced some legislation this past week coined the “Rangel Rule” needs to rename it the “Geith-Da-Rang Rule.”
Why in the hell does a non-profit have a corporate jet? And what are the names of the faux charities to which Daschle contributed?
Coming clean and paying the taxes and interest is one thing, but where are the “failure to pay” and “substantial underpayment” penalties. The IRS allowed Geithner to skate on the first penalty (wrongly) and the second one probably didn’t apply. Without knowing more, it’s unclear if Daschle will be subject to a substantial underpayment penalty, but his omission is pretty large.
IRS: impose the penalties. Daschle has no “reasonable cause” excuse. A regular citizen would be getting crucified.
At least Voinovich only has two more years to screw us. He’s announced his retirement in 2010. And not a moment too soon.
I live in his state. I already e-mailed his office this story–lot of good that’ll do.
I hate it when I see a name that makes me hurl before breakfast.
The democrap ruling class (and their pet republicans) cannot be bothered worrying about paying taxes like the little people, they have larger thoughts to contemplate. /sarc off.
No surprise here. Why should democrats obey the law, especially this regime? Think about it for a minute. Has anyone ever seen The One’s birth certificate?
I gotta agree with John Hinderaker on this one. Without these nominations we might never collect more in unpaid taxes than most Americans earn in a year.
Maybe, and I know I’m reaching here, the media will FINALLY get fed up. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Is it possible this time the dam will finally burst?
It’s been less than 2 weeks and my first impression was The Chosen One was exhibiting signs of the politically fatal virus, Carterism, but I am beginning to think The Chosen One may be haunted by his ‘freinds’ in the same manner as Harding was haunted by his. Perhaps too The Chosen One, like Harding, owes his election primarliy because he looked ‘Presidential’.
Well then it looks like I should be able to simply not pay my estimated taxes and not worry about it. Yeah right . . . let me pull the same stunt and I’ll be locked up for years. This country is led by crooks, cheats and liars.
If these bastages (on BOTH sides of the aisle) insist in shoving the Crap Sandwich down our throats, then any legislation should include the requirement to audit ALL members of Congress first.
Personally, I think they should (almost) all be shot and hung AFTER torture, but I’m willing to be reasonable. Audit them first, THEN….
Criminals and more criminals. These people should be in jail but because they are socialist democrats the rules don’t apply to them. And they are going to help us? No. They are going to help themselves to our money. We are screwed.
Words. Just words. ~Obama the great lie.
Thanks for passing on this positive point of view from John Hinderaker. It is always best to maintain this type of mindset although I have absolutely no faith in our House of Lords to do the right thing by stopping the appointment of their old crony Daschle. My positive point of view is that we are positively screwed now that the lunatics are running the asylum. Is there no one that is an associate or political appointment of “dear leader” that is not tainted by some nefarious criminal or anti-American activity?
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE (mo-lone lah-veh) Translation: Come and take them!
Paging Michael Steele. Michael Steele. There’s a telephone call for you in the lobby…
Time to clean up this mess, Michael!
Stick a fork in America….it’s done. The powers that be are too dug in, and our education system has it that the sheeple can’t think independently.
Demographics matter, too, and we crossed the Rubicon on that one a long time ago.
It was a good idea while it lasted.
Good for John Hinderaker and he has a fine sense of humor. Unfortunately the joke is on us
The 10 B.O. Republicans need job training so they can do something useful with their lives-somewhere NOT in Washington DC or the Continental US.
They will vote him in.I believe they wish to be more like him.He is not “naive”,he is “uniquely qualified”,he is an accomplished thief and they envy him.
I always have thought that when Congress writes a tax code they should be locked in a security room and do their own. Then be audited. The crap they put on everyone is amazing. Come on Republicans. Time to roast some feet in a fire and see who dances.
I also think that when you talk about politicians they should ALWAYS get an identifier. As in (D) Rangle, (D) Dodd, (D) Frank. Too many times it get on the Republicans and just gets left off the Dem.
You didn’t really need an answer right? Same as the other tax cheat “It was just an oversight, an honest mistake, I’m sure he didn’t mean it” And that will be the RINO’s……c’mon, he served with most of these guys, we know what will happen.
Tom & Linda Daschle are one of the slimiest political couples in Washington. Linda Daschle is a lobbyist, has anyone asked, or will anyone ask during the confirmation hearings if she will discontinue her lobbying practice while her husband is a Cabinet member in this Administration?
“Most ethical administration ever……”. NOT
Silly question. He’s a member in good standing of the good old boys’ club, unfairly removed from his sinecure by unfaithful voters. Of course he’ll be confirmed.
John Cornyn got his last dime from me! I’m ashamed and saddened that his usual use of conservative values was ignored for the vote of a tax cheat! I e-mailed him my disgust!
Obama doesn’t need the BO Republicans. His Democrats can confirm Daschle without a single Republican vote. (They could try to organize a filibuster, but that would be pointless, without Franken taking his stolen seat, it takes 2 RINOs to break a filibuster, but there’d be at least 2 RINOs, so it’d be pointless)
I wish the High Chamber solons would do as the House does, let Obama’s folly pass strictly on Demonratic support. Maybe even the RINOs could be persuaded to hold firm since Obama does not need them.
But, but, how come THEY get a corporate jet and the big 3 are eeeviill for theirs? Must be the big 3 weren’t flying around enough Democrats to get to keep theirs….hear that Senator Levin, you don’t rate….
Have you noticed something?
Joe Biden said it is patriotic to pay your taxes. But these high ranking Democrats haven’t been paying their taxes…
But don’t question their patriotism!
Democrats consider taxes the same way Obama looks at the thermostat:
“That’s for the smelly scum to worry about, I’m above that”
Hey, at least he paid his back taxes. Perhaps that would help a little towards public assistance to the unmarried bankrupt mother of 6 who gave birth to 8 more babies in Kalifornia.
Daschle is a POS. His soften spoken stickt under the guise of 100% partisan politics always made me puke.
Now another tax cheat for Mr Hope n Change’s socialist agenda.
The revolt and overthrow that BILL AYERS has always wanted for this country is manifested in our 44th POTUS. The only thing left to play out is…….will it be socialism/communism and then Islam and how long will it take?
Doggone it! Here Democrats are meeting our nation’s financial crisis by stepping up to the plate and paying their taxes and Michelle is bad mouthing them. Hasn’t she heard that this is a new era? It’s new all right, Bush’s cabinet were all upstanding citizens that paid their taxes and now we get a bunch of crooks and tax cheats in the cabinet. Here comes Blagojevich!!!
Read up on this EduCap “nonprofit” here from National Review Online:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YzYzNjZmNTY5MmE4NDg0ZjgzODUxZDExNjlkN2VjNjE=
I do believe I would check the tax returns of the 10 BO Republicans that voted yes. Guilty conscience perhaps?
Just asking….
Miron,
You find it objectionable that a bankrupt woman with no job and six kids has eight more ‘burdens’?
Helloooo? We live in a time where condemnations are only allowed for Christian white males.
This woman is a SINGLE MOTHER, which is the greatest thing in the world! My boss just told me this the other day.
The Audacity of Taxes?
And that’s just with taxes, penalties notwithstanding. I get really tired of paying through the teeth (1/3 of my paycheck) to keep indigents, losers, and failed businesses afloat while these excremental spew tools get a pass while they
convenientlyillegally forget to pay their taxes.There was a cartoon in the paper the other day, about two criminals sitting in jail an one says to the other ” if we don’t get out of here soon, there will be nothing left to steal “. Friends that is no cartoon ,that’s the truth.
The Culture of Corruption moniker is coming home to roost for the Democrats me thinks!
They’ll vote him in, simply because he used to be “one of them”…
Well Buckeye, color me surprised!!(not)
GO BLUE!!
Although that generally only works for Democrats.
Republican Senator John Tower of Texas was trashed rather thoroughly, dishonestly and crudely during the Hearings for Secretary of Defense.
Why Republican Senators do not do a better job of Pay Back I can not fathom. The Dems trashed John Roberts and the Republicans supported the Pedophile Priestess Ruth Ginsberg. Shameful.
The bend over Republicans will bend over. It’s what they do best.
The Republicans will let this slide because, hey, it’s only HHS anyway. That office was created to channel corruption, so Daschle is a fine choice. Obama must really like him to give him such a plum patronage position!
I’m just wondering if anyone, anywhere is going to point out the insanity of a tax code that makes it a crime to fail to report that someone was driving you around for a while.
There is no silver lining in this. Unless Senate republicans vote no in mass, not terribly likely, they will continue to sanction Obama’s no crook left behind program and show once again to all how truly empty the “opposition” is. Sorry, but one house vote does not the triumphant return of principled conservatism make any more than one snow flake heralds the arrival of a new ice-age. BO Republicans are still in the ascendent (might they also be termed “OB”s for Obsequious Bush Republicans?).
But there might be some mild amusement to be had from this given the state of the pseudo-cons. I suppose it could be worth a chuckle to see how Krauthummer parses this one should he deem it worthy of mention. Perhaps Jonah Goldberg will summon up yet another conservative triumph in Daschle’s tax cheating. Who knows? But any more victories like the ones of late and there will be no conservative left to report them.
Pinch your nostrils closed and slowly say Smeagol Daschle.
On January 31st, 2009 at 8:59 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:
Indeed. Election losses have consequences. Don’t want tax cheats and unbelievable creeps like Tom Daschle? Get to work and get better candidates nominated, get them funded, help turn out the vote and get them elected. Calling the few that are left “bend over republicans” doesn’t make up for the fact that the left has out worked and out smarted us in getting their people elected and getting their own way. They still are too.
At this point I think republicans need to chose our battles and the priority is to stop this “stimulus” Stop union card check, stop socializing medicine and stop any illegal immigrant amnesty. I also think Tom Daschle is an abrasive, incompetent douche-nozzle who will do more harm than good to his own cause. As Napoleon said: “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”.
The senate is taking up the stimulus atrocity next week. Moveon.org and the unions are saturating the airwaves with ads promoting it in Republican districts. Who has called and written senators demanding that they oppose it? George Soros isn’t going to pay any of us to do that, is that what it takes to get it done?
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It’s good to know that the IRS has gone “touchy–feeley” on unreported income, contributions to unqualified charities, and on imputed income due to limos, private jets, lobbyist paid vacations, Charlie Rangel style extra home and office deductions, etc.
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I’m reviewing all my tax stuff for 2008. I was worried that I might make a mistake and get crucified by IRS. What a relief to know that the rules have changed!
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OhOh–I forgot that these new KINDER GENTLER TAX RULES ONLY APPLY TO HIGH GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS–not to us “peons”–aka taxpayers. And I don’t think that being an old White conservative Christian republican is going to cut me any slack either.
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The lack of shame and accountability in our political leaders is appalling. Tax cheats, liars (“B.J.” Clinton), conflicts of interest (Hillary Clinton), etc. are accepted with a wink and smile by our leaders. And it cuts across party lines–most of these CLOWNS HAVE MADE THEMSELVES RICH AT OUR EXPENSE.
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We need term limits and a taxpaying voter revolt in a big way–maybe Michael Steele and the “SarahCuda” can make it happen.
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John Bibb
Can’t believe it! RNC just called me to renew my membership. I told the guy if 100% of Republican Senators vote against the stimulus I will consider it. Do you think that will STIMULATE them?
Wow, I’m thinking someone on that vetting team needs to set up their own business reviewing tax returns. They seem to catch some pretty big stuff.
The Obama Administration is beginninng to resemble a “Rogues Gallery” of un-prosecuted felons. Wonder if their “bios” that will eventually appear on the White House Cabinet Members site include such info?
BEFORE Daschle is confirmed by Senators who are fully aware that he illegally evaded taxes & listed deductions for donations to organizations that do not have “non-profit status”, Americans should do another one of your “melt the phones” campaigns beginning NOW!
Does anyone wonder which org. he supported? (MoveOn or any other far-left groups that are undermining the security of US Citizens..?)I want to know – FULL disclosure. I will not hold my breath! jb
Uh-oh!
pitiful. absolutely despicable.
JasonL is correct. Puff Daschle is a member of the club. As much pretzel twist as is necessary will be used to get him confrmed.
Harch, Graham, Specter, McCain, Snow, Collins, will all be falling all overt themselves to get him in. Not even a video of Puff running over an old lady with his car will keep him from being confirmed. Gag me.
Only peasants pay taxes and serve in the military on active duty.
The Obamunists and his minions instead reap the benefits of the freedom keepers of the armed forces and working taxpayers.
txvet2(#25) nailed it first! Daschle is “one of them,” which is to say “NOT one of US!” Congress sees itself having more in common with everyone there, including those across the aisle, than constituents back home who elected them. Therefore, Daschle will be approved!
We need term limits, but will never get them until some deep-pocketed conservative gathers top legal thinkers together and they devise a strategy to get that concept past the U.S. Supreme Court. It’s never gonna happen in my lifetime. Ergo, hello USSA!
So why do we care?
Obama has made the world a better place!
Obama has made everyone a better person!
Obama has forgiven all Democrats!
Obama has given all a do-over….
except Republicans!
Everything is ok because,
“Tom Daschle’s Back”
Senator Corker who bills himself as a fiscal and social conservative voted for the tax cheat. Sorry to say I voted for Corker!
I guess “conservative” just doesn’t mean what it used to – rule of law, limited government, more individual freedom, lower taxes and spending, following our Constitution. Where do I go to find this? What has become of the Republican Party (OK they finally did ONE thing right with all in the House voting against the Porkulus Bill but it looks like that’s about all we can expect)?
I have no choice but to pay taxes. It is taken out of every paycheck. These “innocent, honest, mistakes” always seem to happen to those who must file in order to determine what they should pay. Funny how often those who do “forget” some income. Or, in Mr. Dashle’s case claim deductions for donations to ineligible charities.
It makes me wonder how many of those on the left who advocate higher and higher taxes are cheating on their taxes and don’t get caught?
Not only should Daschle (nor any other tax cheat) not be able to get a government job, what about the accountants that prepare those erroneous tax returns?
Every one of these bozos has an accountant to arrange his finances to minimize his tax liability and do his taxes. Even if the bozos know how, they aren’t going to spend the time. Geithner was laboring over a TurboTax package to do his own? I call BULL CHIP.
It’s highly unlikely, but the remotest possibility exists that the accountant didn’t know that Daschle had a car service for which he should pay taxes. But Daschle took deductions for contributions that did not comply with the tax law. That’s something that any accountant should know and should not condone if they want to continue as an accountant.
We’re not talking about the bozos going to their neighborhood H & R Block either. They retain the white shoe accounting firms, who command the highest fees in the business. Want to be paid the best? Then the quality of your work should be the best. So not only should Geithner and Daschle (and all other tax cheats) not get these cushy government jobs, their accountants should be banned from the profession for life.
Let’s take Mr. Hinderaker’s idea and go with it.
Demand that Barry O nominate the following people
for cabinet positions:
George Soros
Ted Turner
Barbra Streisand
Bill Gates
Rosie O’Donnell (Secretary of Screaming)
Oprah Winfrey
.
.
.
Looks like you are all off the hook.
Senator Judd Gregg, who has been derided as a “RINO” here might become Obamas new secretary of commerce. Which means it wont matter that you don’t call and write your senators and ask them to filibusterer things like card check or amnesty for illegals… they wont be able to even if you did. Of course there might be a small chance if Norm Coleman wins in Minnesota… Oh yeah, I forgot, he’s a RINO too.
Isn’t it great to get rid of all the RINO’s? Now conservatives are really in the drivers seat!
Is it just me, or is there a new policy that requires all top Obama appointees to skip out on their taxes?
And, via Joe “Gaffe Master” Biden, does that also define all top Obama appointees as being ‘unpatriotic’?
With Snowe, Collins, Specter, and McCain, it’s not like the GOP was going to maintain any filibusters anyway.
And if Gregg accepts the post and lets the Dems appoint his replacement, it means he was probably not a vote to count on anyway.
On January 31st, 2009 at 1:49 pm, Socky said:
That needed a little nip/tuck sockpuppet boy, hope you don’t mind.
It was genuine conservatives last chance to prevent things from being done that can not/will not be undone. Instead of working to prevent this “conservatives” opted to roll over and follow Malkins lead of whining into irrelevance because it might have taken work to make ourselves heard.
Welcome to “just another country”, we have no one to blame but ourselves.
I wish I had an 80K consulting job that slipped my mind when it was tax time.
This tune keeps playing in my head -
Demmies, trash and thieves,
we give it to the people when they’re on their knees…
Demmies, trash and thieves,
we hide all our bounty -til we’re the nominees…
New World Order? Karl Marx published his Manifesto in 1848 and ever since we have been hearing of a New World Order. Perhaps it could be traced to the French Revolution or the later Russian Decembrist. Which ever it always leads to a bloody end, often taking generations.
I think just maybe these damn fools believe what they say, it would be hard to know. But Australia has done a rather thorough jobs of disarming it’s citizens to the point of knives and grandfathers sword. From citizen to subject in a generation.
Hitler killed millions for his New World Order, Stalin killed more for his and Mao made them both look like pikers. Tis a Brave New World.
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in the words of James Madison, “The ultimate authority … resides in the people alone. … The advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation … forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition.” …
Another tax cheat, but maybe we should look the other way, after all, George Allen said “macaca”
Wow. I’m sure glad that attacking Conservatives to garner their support has worked out so well for a certain someone.
How did Stalin put it? Useful Idiots indeed.
Breeding patterns and demographic shifts are more to blame for Obama than anything.
The world is changing. There is nothing we can do about it. Eight Latinos are born for every one white or black in America. If you want to know what we will become, look to Latino cultures.
Not too pretty is it, thinking about the United States as Upper Mexico?
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Nancy Pelosi’s Democrat Culture of Corruption on display.
I think I’ll just skip paying taxes for a while.
Lying, cheating democratic liberals. They want everyone else to pay taxes and give the money to them.
Only people guilty of the same ethical “mistakes” as Geithner, and Daschle, and Rangel, and Pelosi… et.al. would excuse them.
So this is what “tax cuts for rich” really mean.
They get away with it because of the “There but for the grace of God go I” factor.
The only way to root this out may be to physically remove these guys from office. Former Gov.Bloggy isn’t notable for his corruption but for being so crude and open with it. How do these guys become so rich on their salaries anyway?
Unless you enjoy sewer systems, clean water, modern medicine, working phone system, electricity, refrigeration and other working things.
And if you appreciate the Napoleonic Code you will love Mexican law. Trophy Wife Pelosi’s Democrat Culture of Corruption would fit right in and they would not even call it corruption.
Right now taxes are not a problem for Mexicans in Mexico or here. In Mexico the matizo doesn’t have much to tax and those here (not we born here) just don’t bother. BendOver McCain said they do not have to and President Bush agreed. Beside it might be embarrassing to list Income Source:
Robbing Pay Day Loan Offices
Selling yanqi cars in Mexico
Selling Mexican Drugs in Mexico del norte
Kidnapping
pase de contrabando a la gente -coyote
Lindsay Graham’s greens keeper would be uglies of all.
Every last one of them is nothing more than a self serving scumbag.
I never thought the day would come that I would say that I have less respect for the government now than the marching, banner-waving disrespect for the government, I had, back in the 60s.
What hipocracy! Almost the perfect argument for the Fair Tax.
Does no one have any decency or common sense?
Geez
On January 31st, 2009 at 2:30 pm, JHSII said:
Playing with your dungeons/dragons and imaginary friends and then popping up to thump your hairless chest about RINO’s before you return to your photographs of prepubescent gymnasts hardly makes you a “conservative” Johnny.
I see Bill Grant is back to his old failed ways of attacking me, lying, and trolling. Didn’t he learn anything the last time?
The more Bill Grant posts, the more he proves me right.
Want to go on again about how I was mean to Robert McCallum, Bill? I note that you didn’t even bother to try finding out what was really happening before you twisted it into something so totally divorced from reality that I had to step away from the computer so that I could stop laughing.
The hell you say?
Pretty well summed it all up…we become a 3rd world country due to the theft and incompetence of “we the people’s” representatives? America will not die that easy, there will be a revolt. The least we should have is taxation with honest representation.
I get it now: Bill Grant = Uber Conservative, everyone else = irrelevant
Above discussion is perfect example of the difference from those on the right and the left. On the right there is disagreement. On the left there is a Manefesto.
On January 31st, 2009 at 3:40 pm, RogerCfromSD said:
Conservatives are as relevant or as irrelevant as they have made themselves. The brilliant strategy espoused here of dragging down the only thing that could have stopped the socialist steamroller in a self serving display of pseudo conservative hubris hasn’t helped with the whole “relevancy” thing. Meanwhile the leftists have outworked and out strategized us.
Reap/sew.
The only thing that dragged down Conservatives here was the incessant attacks on them by someone who calls himself a Conservative.
Can someone who viscerally attacks Conservatives at every opportunity really expect to get them to support his positions?
Johnny, I am not wasting any more time on someone so needful of attention. Go get a paper rout.
And Bill calls me “Johnny”.
My name is John. Nobody’s called me Johnny since I was about 12 years old. I guess that shows what level Bill is at.
The only one here trying to get attention is Bill. He believes he can do that by trolling, attacking, and lying. He does have a point there – I don’t tolerate trolls very well.
“there will be a revolt…”
I believe there is some truth to this. For the first time in my life, I’m almost 55, I am starting to wonder just how much further folks can be pushed. We are not passive raised in a communistic brain washed society. Many of us understand we have voluntarily given up some of our freedom to enjoy a better life and greater freedom. We will not continue to be of that mind IF we are giving up freedoms to experince a lesser quality of life AND less freedom. There is a limit. Feels like we are moving closer towards that limit instead of further away every day these days.
Anyone can drag and drop your user name (JHSII) into Google and not only see that you are a web troll, but that you also have the mental age, hobbies and taste in
womangirls of a 12 year old, Johnny.Thanks for derailing another thread. Guess you aren’t concerned that there’s nothing to stop Obama.
More projection by Bill. Nothing new here.
And, of course, Bill derails another thread with his trolling, lies, and attacks on me – and then he blames me. It’s beyond the point of being pathological.
Not paying taxes isthe Democrats sport. Remember Bill Clinton had to pay back taxes for deducting interest that he did not pay.
Now children. Stop the infantile bickering.
Is this the same Bill Grant that does an op-ed in the daily senile in GJ,CO?
Back to the original subject:
There is possibly another Republican tactic in play here, even though I don’t believe that Senate Republicans are smart enough to try to pull it off.
Give the Democrats everything they want so when it all fails there won’t be any Republicans to blame.
Remember that these are the same Republicans that have tried to play Democrat-lite the last few years. Does anyone else think they’re smart enough to pull that tactic off given how successful they were at playing Democrat-lite and hoping that they wouldn’t drive away their base??
No 67–dadinseattle
Maybe we could have Cher record this as a new song. Hell–I got a letter from the IRS one time when the wife’s employer paid travel expenses erroneously. We caught the error but the employer never corrected their input to IRS. I received a letter advising I had unreported income of some $60. Should have been 80k and I would have sailed home free–NOT
Re Tom Daschle:
Thanks, Txvet2, for the word of the day: sinecure. Looked it up…spot on!