Sen. McConnell proposes more Big Government to fix Big Government debacle

By Michelle Malkin  •  February 2, 2009 09:16 AM

Click here for update: McConnell says his “goal is not to kill the bill.”

Where is my Mitch McConnell head-banging graphic? Why did he make me have to dig it up again first thing Monday morning? I can’t take it. I really can’t:

Over the weekend, you see, Sen. McConnell gave the GOP radio address. The subject was the “stimulus.” Generational Theft Act, Crap Sandwich Supreme, Porkulus, Spendulus, Debt Stimulus Plan. Pick your name. It’s all B.S. And Americans know it. Senate debate begins today at 2pm Eastern. On the heels of the House Republicans’ unanimous rejection of the Obama/Democrats’ Big Government package and shifting public opinion against the plan, you might think the Senate GOP minority leader would get a clue:

Big Government = Bad Idea.

But nooooo. Sen. McConnell knows how to extinguish any fledgling flame of enthusiasm among grass-roots activists who were starting to think the Republican Party was returning to its fiscal conservative principles.

Fuhgeddaboudit, people. Sen. McConnell’s grand idea to “fix” the stimulus is to create new, government-backed mortgages.

Is he freaking kidding, you ask? No, no he is not:

Under the mortgage plan, any ”credit-worthy borrower” could get a government-backed loan at 4 percent. Details were not available, but Republicans have talked about having the government guarantee the 30-year loans for a year or two. Thirty-year fixed rates recently have been around 5 percent.

No cost estimates were available for the McConnell plan. Democrats, who will be crucial to its success since they control 58 Senate seats, have not ruled out backing such a plan, but wanted to see more details. The Senate version of the stimulus bill is now costing $889 billion, about $70 billion more than the one passed this week by the House. The increase is largely due to changes in tax breaks.

McConnell estimated Saturday that under his mortgage plan, the average family would see its monthly mortgage payment drop by $466 a month, or $5,600 a year. Over the life of a 30-year loan, that’s a savings of $167,760.

McConnell isn’t just missing a pair. He has misplaced his cerebrum. GOP Sen. John Ensign was also pimping the plan over the weekend.

Question: Why should government be guaranteeing mortgages? Isn’t that what got us into trouble in the first place?

Question: Why should government be setting mortgage rates? Aren’t those supposed to be set by the market?

Question: How can Republicans on the one hand argue that Fannie Mae, Freddie Mae, and other interventions in the housing and mortgage markets were bad and then at the same time propose a doomed policy along similar lines?

Question: Have Republicans learned nothing from the housing meltdown? “Credit-worthy” borrower = anyone with a pulse. Who will pay when these borrowers default on their loans? Taxpayers will.

Question: Who will sell these mortgages? Probably the banks. What incentive do they have to ensure the credit-worthiness of borrowers, since they will bear no risk if the borrowers default? Sounds like a formula for another mega-subsidy to the banks…to go along with all the others.

Question: Why do Republicans continue to believe, as Democrats do, that the number one goal of economic policy should be to prop up housing prices? (Recall McCain’s moronic $300 billion mortgage plan.) Why not let the market determine the correct level of housing prices? Clearly, in many parts of the country, housing prices are still too high.

The proper response by government is to let the market allow prices to decline.

The problem is too much borrowing, too much artificial inflation of home prices.

On what planet should the Republican/conservative alternative be to encourage more borrowing and to prop up prices so they don’t fall “too much?”

This is more of the same old, same old: Kicking the can down the road. Real change — fiscally repsonsible change — means sucking it up, allowing housing prices to fall, and getting the government out of the home-lending business.

What a disaster and — coming from Sen. McConnell — how sadly, utterly predictable.

More than a year ago, I called for the GOP to distinguish itself from the Big Government Democrats running for president and demagoguing this issue. Remember?

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The bipartisan meddlers in Washington are going to make the housing “crisis” drag on for a decade when, if they had adopted the suck it up plan in the first place, it would have been over by now.

They’ve learned nothing. If McConnell says one more thing about the stimulus bill being a “Big Government” bill, I am going to puke. He is no position to complain.

Time to flip the elephant over again:

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  1. #608979
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:21 am, JT said:

    So much for sending him some balls.

  2. #608982
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:22 am, sonofdy said:

    Under the mortgage plan, any ”credit-worthy borrower” could get a government-backed loan at 4 percent

    Well if they pass it I will probably go for it since I will be paying the cost of these loans for years to come and I have about 29 years left on my loan anyway. I wouldn’t though if I had only 5-10 years left.

    I have almost given up on Washington DC ever showing ANY fiscal restraint.

  3. #608985
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 am, sonofdy said:

    BTW still taking bets on what will break first, the head or the wall.

  4. #608986
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 am, MrOlympia said:

    McConnell………please resign. You have proven time and time again that you are not up to the job. I really hate to say it, but its true. Your brain is mush.

  5. #608992
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:27 am, right4life said:

    vote republican!! we’re just like the democRATs only LESS!!!

    yeah thats worked wonders for em!!

    such stupidity has to hurt….

  6. #608994
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:27 am, Flyoverman said:

    MM wrote: The proper response by government is to let the market allow prices to decline. The problem is too much borrowing, too much artificial inflation of home prices.

    Ya think? Common sense and hundreds of years of history are lost on the Congress. No wonder their cafeteria is in the red.

  7. #608996
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:30 am, wrcnossen said:

    McConnel is just like any long term elected official – he doesn’t trust capitalism, the foundation of the countrie’s economic system, to work. In effect he doesn’t trust people to make good decisions without government help. In this he is no different than the idiot-liberals of the demcorat party.

  8. #609002
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:34 am, Socky said:

    Um, a fellow from my church just got a 15 year mortgage at 4.5% Why do we “need’ Big Brother to come in and screw it up for the sake of half a percentage point?

  9. #609009
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:37 am, right4life said:

    I have almost given up on Washington DC ever showing ANY fiscal restraint.

    ALMOST??? you’re not doing a ‘phelps’ here on us are you???

  10. #609018
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:41 am, jjmurphy said:

    McConnell is an idiot. What is that saying – he would be out of his depth in a parking lot puddle?

    He obviously has no knowledge of, or respect for, capitalism and the free market.

    Gotta love republicans in D.C. One step forward, six steps back.

  11. #609020
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:42 am, sonofdy said:

    Almost. As in they can turn it arround. But they need get a clue fast.

  12. #609025
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:48 am, bansharia said:

    MM,
    can you call Steele asd ask for a response? or do you just let people contact you?

  13. #609026
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:48 am, MrVIBEMAN said:

    Who is John Galt?

  14. #609027
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:49 am, rplatt said:

    McConnell is a fool and the people that put him in that position are no better. How big a stick must you whack these idiots with before they learn?

  15. #609028
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:49 am, TK-421 said:

    Michelle at times I agree with what you say but this isn’t one of them. Not everyone on the Market plays fair. For instance my Stepdads home would only cost $25,000. He pays around 300 every month as it’s all he can affoard to, and every year only 500 bucks of his money goes to the home versus his intrist rates. Thats not morally fair or right, that is extortion and robbery no matter how legal. Many people find themselves in spots like this.

    I agree that its not the goverments place to give loans, but it should be its place to leave the suffering of its people and force said companines off its high horse. We could take these peopls debts and homes, but then what? Where do they go, what do they do? My step father is in his 50’s so seeking higher earnings is not possible, he also has pets so either he rents and dumbs the animals, or keeps on paying his extortion payments.

    So lets throw him out, let him rent, but what happens if he can’t affoard the rent elsewhere, what if others are in the same boat, where buying was cheaper than renting, but crocked clauses and unnotified sales of morgatges happens? Then they end up homeless which is even more of a drain. There are poor people in this country.

  16. #609031
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:52 am, bansharia said:

    Dear Mr. Steele,
    Tis Monday now as head of GOP you must either speak out on such things or through your silence condone.
    Will you or won’t you stand along side of people simply because they have an R after their name?
    ,Barbara

  17. #609035
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:53 am, flenser said:

    Why do Republicans continue to believe, as Democrats do, that the number one goal of economic policy should be to prop up housing prices?

    Because the GOP is the political arm of the US Chamber of Commerce.

  18. #609037
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:54 am, jangar said:

    Where is my Mitch McConnell head-banging graphic? Why did he make me have to dig it up again first thing Monday morning? I can’t take it. I really can’t:

    Perfect timing. Rush is on vacation this week.

  19. #609039
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:55 am, bansharia said:

    TK,
    I totally disagree with you. MY $ is MY $ as is all Americans. If you care so much about your steppop take him into your home and let me pay for mine.
    YOU SIR have no right to any American’s $ ( did not type OTHER for a reason ).
    If that is too harsh well buck up.
    ZERO apologies

  20. #609041
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:59 am, jangar said:

    TK-421 said:

    Nothing that has not been said by the architects of socialism, those who oppose free market principals and capitalism that builds a strong and healthy economy.

  21. #609043
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:00 am, bansharia said:

    Jang,
    abc newsnit morning show had mccain on this morn and was trashing Rush playing the old slice and dice quote crap and the “maverick” failed…am sure newsbusters will have it on if they don’t have on already.

  22. #609045
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:01 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    If we cannot replace the zombies who are leading the GOP, what else would you expect but more of the same?

    I now return this program to the RINOs who insist that conservatives like me, those of u who believe in small government, national sovereignty, individual freedom and secure borders, are the reason Republicans keep getting crushed in elections.

  23. #609046
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:01 am, MrVIBEMAN said:

    What’s bothering me here is all this talk about ‘better’ stimulus plans and the anger about earmarks and ‘pork’.

    All this does is take the focus OFF the real issue, which is that we don’t need a ’stimulus’ plan in the first place.

    “Look closely at my right hand” while the left takes your wallet…

  24. #609047
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:02 am, MtsEdge said:

    The proper response by government is to let the market allow prices to decline.

    We have allowed ourselves to become a nation of ninnies…no one can fail (horrors!)…that would be too much for their self-esteem. Another liberal utopian ideal run amok.

    So now that attitude has infected our society on a macro level, and we can’t (just can’t, I tell you) allow banks, corporations, or others to fail. People might lose their jobs! (Of course, they might be re-hired by other companies who are growing, but, I don’t want to dilute the liberal’s talking points.)

    The problem with this fantasy is that the banks, corporations, etc., will STILL FAIL…and they are going to take us all with them.

    /rant off

  25. #609048
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:02 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    There is an old joke about the not so good looking older worn out gentleman who goes into a bar frequented by young folks, sits next to a young very hot looking babe and asks her if she would have sex with him for a million dollars. She thinks for a moment, surveys the condition of this old dude, but decides for a million dollars, yes, she would have sex with him.

    Then the old guy asks her, “How about for 25 dollars?”

    The young babe slaps him across the face and exclaims, “Absolutely NOT!, What kind of girl to you think I am?!”

    And the old guy says, “We’ve already determined that. Now we are just negotiating on price.”
    ____________________________

    The current Republican leadership has already determined what kind of girls they are, they are just negotiating on price you see. Nothing about what McConnell says should surprise anyone.

    Left socialist “lite” is STILL left socialism. The current mindset of our Republican leaders is precisely what has cost them elections. They are not conservatives any longer.

    Nothing about any of their “alternatives”, we’ll spend less so our plan is better than the Democrats, should surprise any person who has been paying attention.

    What our current leadership is, that has been determined. All we get to find out now is where are we going to end up after the price is negotiated.

  26. #609053
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:05 am, TK-421 said:

    Okay Bansharia Jangar, answer me this all knowing sages of the mountian.

    How is it that a US Based Company, THAT HIRES ALL ITS WORKERS IN INDIA AND HOUSES ITS CORPORATE OFFICES THERE good for the US economy? It isn’t, if you think its good that as it allows cheap stock, well there will be a recokning one of these days. I’m not for Compleat Socialisim, or Capitilisim, I’m for Statesisim, a mix of the two.

    As to why I don’t help him I’m not in a much better situation myself, and my loyalities lie under what it is I find morally right reguardless of banner or law.

  27. #609055
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:05 am, jangar said:

    Not surprised, bansharia, not surprised. Everyone wants skin in the game when it is thought that there is some merit to it…at their own demise.

  28. #609058
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:07 am, TK-421 said:

    Also further more I didn’t say you had to pay it, I said the goverment should be able to slap hands on unfair trades and on criminally high intrist rates. Thats taking your money how?

  29. #609059
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:07 am, irving said:

    Question: Have Republicans learned nothing … ?

    Not in my lifetime. And I’m not young.

  30. #609063
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:09 am, dominigan said:

    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:49 am, TK-421 said

    I’m confused. Which Constitutional Ammendment covers this?

  31. #609069
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:11 am, jangar said:

    TK – I’m not in the best of shape these days either, but it’s my own fault and not that of business, nor do I think government should field-dress businesses to bail me out of my poor decisions in life. I had a mommy, don’t need another one.

  32. #609068
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:11 am, TK-421 said:

    Who said that the Constitution was the holy grial of the covenant dominigan?

  33. #609071
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:12 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “I said the goverment should be able to slap hands on unfair trades and on criminally high intrist rates.”

    Nope. The government should make sure that any impediments that keep a company who would offer customers lower interest rates are removed so that the in the market you as a customer/consumer would have options. As an informed consumer YOU pick the company that does not gouge customers with fees and high interest rates. That business succeeds. The other business, the gouger-high interest rates company, goes out of business.

    The government has no business massaging the market place by fining one company vs. not fining another.

    The government does have responsibility to make sure a company who would like to do business fairly, not gouge customers, has a chance to establish itself and survive. Beyond that it is up to you as a consumer to make educated choices.

  34. #609074
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:14 am, TK-421 said:

    So people should just suffer Jangar, you forget thats how goverments fail, in princeple high taxes had more to do with the American Revolution than any call to freedom, you want to wave your red white and blue, then something needs to be done, or the pressure becomes to much and open revolt happens. Just as it has to the Royals of France, Russia, the Roman Empire and republic, The Repulic of Spain, the Wimer Republic, The Lower Kingdom of Egypt, various Chinese Kingdoms, and it won’t be me the angry hoards come for.

  35. #609078
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:16 am, hunter said:

    On February 2nd, 2009 at 9:34 am, Socky said:
    Um, a fellow from my church just got a 15 year mortgage at 4.5% Why do we “need’ Big Brother to come in and screw it up for the sake of half a percentage point?

    That is impossible, haven’t you heard, there is a credit crisis and no one can get a loan!

  36. #609079
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:16 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “So people should just suffer Jangar…”

    Ah the false dichotomy of the left mind set. IF the government doesn’t somehow provide, then people will suffer.

    Flawed thinking which leads to justification of all sorts of things.

    If the government doesn’t do something that does not then equal people will suffer.

  37. #609080
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:16 am, TK-421 said:

    JSmiddleton4.

    HOW CAN YOU MAKE A CHOICE WHEN IT IS SOLD WITH OUT YOUR KNOWING OR PREMISSION AND FURTHER MORE UNDER SUCH AND USING THE US MIRRIOR LAW THEY ACTED UNDER INDIAN LAW TO PREVERT SELLING OF MORTAGE TO ANOTHER COMPANY?!

    You think people have choices they control all in there life, you sir are full of crap as we have divious people in this world who love nothing more than taking a dollar from another and will use the laws they made to do just that.

  38. #609085
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:18 am, TK-421 said:

    prevent*

    You know on socail issues I argee with the left compleatly, on economics not at all, I’m leaving this mess alone, history will decide things as it always has.

  39. #609089
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:19 am, TK-421 said:

    I ment I argee with the Right on social issues, but w/e

  40. #609091
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:20 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    TK….

    You assessment is correct. We live in a world full of hazards and bad people with bad motives. However it is YOU that are responsible for your choices. It is not the government’s job to protect you from yourself nor is it my responsibility to take my hard earned wages to give them to a government to protect you from your choices.

    Based on your postings you are clearly not a conservative.

    Socialism only offers the appearance of the protection your desire. All it does is make the government the folks who take your money and leave you no choices.

  41. #609090
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:20 am, jencab said:

    Mr. Steele since you read the blogs, get McConnell to see the light or kick him out of the party.

  42. #609097
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:22 am, Savage24 said:

    It wasn’t to long ago that I was receiving E-Mail from the NRCC telling me we needed Mitch McOonnell in the senate. I told them we needed to get rid of the RINOs. Well the RINOs are back. By the way I’m betting the wall falls first.

  43. #609098
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:22 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “You know on socail issues I argee with the left compleatly, on economics not at all…”

    That sounds nice and all. Is an impossibility as they are not separate issues. One drives the other, the other drives the one.

  44. #609109
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:29 am, Just A Grunt said:

    Michelle, While you paint one sceanario I see a different outcome to this sort of idea.
    Big gubmint gives big financial the money to support 4% mortgages. Big financial pockets money, denies mortgage for any one of hundreds of reasons all determined to be “client is not credit worthy”
    Foreclosures and defaults contiue unabated, BIG financial improves bottom line, BIG gubmint sends more money since whatever they gave the first time wasn’t enough.
    Rinse, Repeat.

  45. #609115
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 am, hunter said:

    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:29 am, Just A Grunt said:
    Michelle, While you paint one sceanario I see a different outcome to this sort of idea.
    Big gubmint gives big financial the money to support 4% mortgages. Big financial pockets money, denies mortgage for any one of hundreds of reasons all determined to be “client is not credit worthy”
    Foreclosures and defaults contiue unabated, BIG financial improves bottom line, BIG gubmint sends more money since whatever they gave the first time wasn’t enough.
    Rinse, Repeat.

    You mean like the initial TARP funds?

  46. #609132
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:40 am, jangar said:

    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:19 am, TK-421 said:
    I ment I argee with the Right on social issues, but w/e

    I was going to say…Huh? Thanks for the correction.

    Socialism only offers the appearance of the protection your desire. All it does is make the government the folks who take your money and leave you no choices.

    None. They’ll tell us what to do, when to do it and in what color, at every turn, while we rock away our lives in the government owned projects.

    Oh, and vote for Earl…he’s got your special interests at heart.

  47. #609133
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:40 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    Michelle Malkin’s best description of our “stimulus” program is CRAP SANDWICH–especially the really gross Homer Simpson “chowing down” cartoon! It gives me a bad taste in my mouth when I see it–just like the stimulus program does.
    ***
    As far as the RINO’s in Washington–once they move into the beltway and start getting rich at our expense they start thinking differently about what would help out our country. Economics 101 is the second thing to go out the window–right behind ethics.
    ***
    I recommend a really big RINO HUNT IN 2010–let’s vote them out in the primary elections. Remember their names and actions.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  48. #609146
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:48 am, hrobusto said:

    They STILL don’t get it!! My God, what will it take for these morons to listen to the grassroots? Steele had better step up in a hurry or this party will be reduced to swabbing decks and turning out the lights in the Capital Bldg.

  49. #609162
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:56 am, jt3151 said:

    What will happen when a disproportionate number of “credit worthy” borrowers turn out to be white? This could only be the result of racism and would be “fixed”.

    This is EXACTLY the kind of crap that destroyed our economy in the first place!

  50. #609163
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:57 am, love2rumba said:

    Mitch McConnell=Peter Pan

  51. #609167
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 10:58 am, love2rumba said:

    Its nonsense like McConnell’s that will engender formation of a conservative 3rd party out of necessity.

  52. #609172
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:00 am, Pat said:

    At first I was in favor the mortgages for worthy borrowers (I am one!) but you convinced me otherwise.

    These Republicans are just aiming for their share of the goodies before they okay the Theft Act. The government needs to get out of the way.

    VOTE NO, NO, NO!

  53. #609183
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:03 am, jangar said:

    Mitch McConnell has Peter Pan envy.

  54. #609185
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 am, jjmurphy said:

    My God, what will it take for these morons to listen to the grassroots?

    They will never, ever listen or learn, EVER! Stop believing that they will. It will help your blood pressure.

  55. #609192
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:07 am, jangar said:

    TK said: You think people have choices they control all in there life, you sir are full of crap as we have divious people in this world who love nothing more than taking a dollar from another and will use the laws they made to do just that.

    Welcome to the Democrat and Rino midset, in order to get votes. Your life means nothing more than a vote for these stooges.

  56. #609195
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:08 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    John Bibb said

    I recommend a really big RINO HUNT IN 2010–let’s vote them out in the primary elections. Remember their names and actions.

    Exactly. So long as the RINOs insist on blocking for the Dems, they represent a bigger problem than the Dems themselves. We would LOVE to be fighting the Dems as conservative Republicans but our leaders keep getting in the way! We can’t spend all of our time figuratively point a gun at their heads to force them to do their jobs. Get rid of them now.

  57. #609196
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:08 am, jangar said:

    It will help your blood pressure.

    I thought it was my teenage daughter, but I stand corrected. Thank you.

  58. #609199
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:10 am, jjmurphy said:

    I thought it was my teenage daughter

    I have one of those, too. I hear ya!

  59. #609206
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:11 am, WrathOfKhan said:

    Your GOP has abandoned you, why haven’t you abandoned them? Vote Libertarian.

  60. #609209
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 am, dan708 said:

    MM, instead of flipping the GOP elephant, you might as well cut its head off. God, do we need another political party!

  61. #609219
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:19 am, jangar said:

    murph said: I have one of those, too. I hear ya!

    Does it include hypertention?

  62. #609223
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:20 am, InCali said:

    From what I read, you might soon be able to nickname it Trade War Starter too. Bleh!

    Maybe a photoshop mashing Star Wars and the present players trying to start a Trade War would be fun.

  63. #609224
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 am, Just A Grunt said:

    At first blush the McConnel idea appeared to have merit. After giving 5 minutes worth of thought to it you could see the problems that would arise.
    Look it is painful now and it is going to get worse, but unfortunatly I am going more and more over into the camp of let’s stop this slow descent into hell and let the economy do what it is going to do and get the government out of it.
    Rep Price (R-GA) this weekend was making the point that nobody in DC wants the average American to determine which businesses or industries survive or fail, and instead they lawmakers are acting as the sole arbiter of who should be saved.
    Your lawmakers do not want to give the American people the power to make such choices. It is the same reason they resist any attempts at real tax reform.
    It has always been the average person who has determined who succeeds and who doesn’t, except now. In the past hundreds of thousands of comapnies and industries have come and gone, all based on the consumer. The lawmakers want to shift that dynamic.

  64. #609236
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:26 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Even Greenspan, in his book “The Age of Turbulence”, decried the state of affairs in the GOP. To paraphrase what he said (I don’t have the book with me)”It’s not so much that Democrats are winning elections but that Republicans are losing”. He also state that there has never been a better time to start a new party. I call starting a second party now that the two established parties have decided to merge to create a party that’s “too big to fail.”

    The USSR was designed to be “too big to fail”. It failed.

  65. #609268
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:42 am, laggarticus said:

    I hate it when the only ideas to come out of Washington are along the lines of “the beurocracy is expanding to meet the expanding needs of the beurocracy…”

  66. #609272
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:44 am, jjmurphy said:

    Does it include hypertention?

    Hypertension, frayed nerves, indigestion, hair loss……

    And one “I love you, Daddy” cures it all. (At least for a while!)

  67. #609286
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:49 am, EdDantes said:

    Why don’t they just excuse all personal income tax this year? That has to be the absolute fastest way to jumpstart the economy.

    I know that the fedral government would miss out on a lot of money, but they can’t decide what to do with it anyway so why are millions of Americans going to pay trillions of dollars out of the economy to a governement that is too incompetent to spend it effectively?

    In 2007 US income tax returns, without FICA, etc, totaled $1,366,241,437,000.

    Source Here

    The government would still collect $849,732,729,000 in employment taxes.

  68. #609309
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 11:58 am, Tom Blogical said:

    “Where is my Mitch McConnell head-banging graphic? Why did he make me have to dig it up again first thing Monday morning? I can’t take it. I really can’t:”

    You’d better keep it handy for the next 4 years, or you’ll be digging for it every day.

    It’s going to take generations to clean up a financial mess that started 6 months ago.

  69. #609323
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 12:06 pm, Mach1Duck said:

    The bottom line is, “If the CEO’s and business managers are so incompetent as to lead their business into finical ruin, let them fail. This applies equally to our elected officials. All of the money allocated is to bail these leaches out of the holes they dug. The government of the United States has always been about trust, the very thing they have lost .

  70. #609349
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 12:21 pm, thejim said:

    Our problems either come out of the Senate or are exacerbated by the Senate (McConnell,McCain,Obama,Corker,Etc,Etc).

    Part of the reason is that they are seriously out of touch with those that elect them and they arrogantly ignore the citizens pleas and demands because they know that they are immune to retaliation for at least 6 years at a time. They know how short the citizens memories are and as lawyers (most of them are attorneys) know how easy it is to confuse and baffle the average citizen. So, Revelolution or Concerted effort to rid ourselves of these people through serious pre-election campaigns? Your choice is?

  71. #609356
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 12:24 pm, docflash said:

    I am convinced they are owned.It is more obvious than ever they do not care what the public wants or needs.You know they all have been hearing from the people in their states and districts.To hell with us.We are the saps and they can’t wait to get their cut of the largest money theft in the history of mankind.What do they have to worry about,they are set for life even if they lose an election.What’s the answer?

  72. #609364
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 12:30 pm, tre said:

    Can I bang Mitch McConnell’s head on the wall instead?

    ‘Twould I need to send him ANOTHER pair!

  73. #609377
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 12:38 pm, longbow said:

    We were once a free people that had a government that was our servant. Now we are well on our way to becoming a subject people with government as our master. And it looks like the majority of the sheeple and the Republican Party leadership are OK with this…

    It’s time for another revolution. I want my country back!

  74. #609382
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 12:43 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    If there is a silver lining it’s that people are getting really fed up – enough to demand change perhaps.

  75. #609392
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Steele had better step up in a hurry or this party will be reduced to swabbing decks and turning out the lights in the Capital Bldgwandering the streets begging for change and washing auto windshields in the streets.

    What they would actually deserve.

  76. #609394
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 12:49 pm, Bill Grant said:

    Time to flip the elephant over again:

    Or you could direct people to flood hid phones and request that he guts it or kills the whole thing…

    Washington Office
    361-A Russell Senate Office Building
    Washington, DC 20510
    Phone: (202) 224-2541
    Fax: (202) 224-2499

    That might actually be… constructive.

  77. #609404
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 12:55 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Or you could direct people to flood hid phones and request that he guts it or kills the whole thing…

    She’s done far more of this than you ever have. Get off it.

  78. #609405
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 12:55 pm, corona said:

    Do any of these clowns realize there are people who 1) have paid off their mortgages, 2) are paying their mortgages, or 3) who rent?

  79. #609411
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 12:59 pm, Bill Grant said:

    On February 2nd, 2009 at 12:55 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    She’s done far more of this than you ever have. Get off it.

    I actually worked to prevent Obama from getting in. Regardless, what have you done?

  80. #609424
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 1:05 pm, flenser said:

    I actually worked to prevent Obama from getting in.

    Aren’t you special.

  81. #609429
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 1:09 pm, Bill Grant said:

    Aren’t you special.

    Evidently.

  82. #609469
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 1:27 pm, FilmLadd said:

    Bill, let it go already.

    McCain was a stubborn horse’s butt and he was the one responsible for losing the race. He wanted to lose and there was nothing you or anyone else could’ve done about it. He was a democrat-lite and when given a choice between New Coke or Coke Classic, the media and the electorate will choose Classic every time.

    Why don’t you run for office against one of these Rhinos instead of whining about how everyone on Malkin’s site were sabotaging Rhinos? Give me some classic conservatism and I’d vote for you if you’re in my district.

  83. #609500
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 1:48 pm, vsatt said:

    TK, the biggest obstacle you and your step-dad face is your attitude. Being in your 50’s doesn’t mean you’ve achieved all you can ever hope to achieve in life, unless you’re convinced it does.

    And it’s your stepdad’s choice to have pets knowing it restricts his housing options. I love my dog but if having her limits my ability to find more affordable housing, I can either suck it up and pay more or get rid of the dog. It may not be an easy choice, but it is a choice and it’s mine to make. Personally I’d rather bear the burden of the hard choices and consequences that go along with it than turn those rights over to the government.

  84. #609501
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 1:49 pm, Bill Grant said:

    On February 2nd, 2009 at 1:27 pm, FilmLadd said:

    Bill, let it go already.

    Sooooo… Posting Mitch McConnell’s contact information is somehow a bad thing to do here. Kuz that somehow helps McCain who was stubborn and badness…

    I ought to just “let it go” and not encourage people to do what the opposition is doing to great effect: getting involved. That way we can vent our frustrations online without any effort made to relieve those frustrations. Maybe some people like to be in a state of frustration? Is that it? Have I intruded on your frustration happy-place? Repeat after me: “I’m mad as hell and I want to take more of it!”

  85. #609502
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 1:49 pm, nosheep said:

    I am a conservative…What a mess we are in now as there are few in congress who will do the right thing. Suck it up indeed!!!

    Suppose you were an idiot.
    And suppose you were a member of Congress….
    But then I repeat myself.
    -Mark Twain

  86. #609519
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 2:00 pm, FilmLadd said:

    On February 2nd, 2009 at 1:49 pm, Bill Grant said:

    No, none of that stuff. What I meant was, let go of being angry at conservatives who pointed out that the emperor was not only naked but was a collectivist in conservative skin.

    Encouraging people to fight back etc. is all good and I’ve got no qualms with that, but you’ve got to give them something to fight for, not just against.

  87. #609523
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 2:02 pm, Freddy said:

    Unfortunatly, this is exactly the kind of ‘ideas’ I was afraid of when McConnell was placed back ‘in charge’ of the Republican side of the senate. Do not forget that this is the same fellow that pushed through the TARP disaster.

    McConnell does not have any usable ideas on how to address the current economic concerns. He is simply out there thrashing about trying to pretend he has ‘a solution’.

    I bet noone even asked McConnell just how having 4% mortgages was going to ‘fix’ or ’set’ housing prices? By itself, it cannot. The government would need to follow up those 4% loans with new government appraisal processes. Once this happens, then the government can set all housing prices everywhere, AND decide who is allowed to live in that housing.

    This is yet another massive government grab of private land. Absolutely nothing new in this mentality at all. And unfortunatly it seems this kind of government expansion is all that McConnell will ever offer.

  88. #609530
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 2:05 pm, Joy said:

    TK-421 said:

    Are you a US citizen? If not, your spelling errors are understandable. But if you’re a citizen, you’ll never get out of poverty unless you learn the English language and learn to spell.

    Normally I don’t bring up spelling on the threads as they move fast and people are typing fast and errors are to be expected, but yours are especially frequent.

    You can learn to spell on your own by getting a dictionary and making flash cards. Learn a few words a day.

    You can learn to type on your own by placing your left index finger on the F key and your right on the J key. Then type and retype “The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog” over and over. Then open books and type sections of them.

    With those two things accomplished, you’ll be ready to move up to a better job and be in a position to help your family.

    Good luck. It will bless your life, I promise.

  89. #609551
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 2:15 pm, Bill Grant said:

    What I meant was, let go of being angry at conservatives who pointed out that the emperor was not only naked but was a collectivist in conservative skin.

    Well, at that moment I was angry at people who just complain about a situation while the opposition is actually out working to change it. Now you are getting me rankled about the supposed conservatives who found genuine socialist who we can barely touch more preferable or at least acceptable. Keep at it and I might remember hat some still have the stupid idea that the way to achieve more political power for conservatives is to purge the movement of the few left who are in any position to do anything. Then I will be ready to join you in your frustration happy place. Just the thing for a super bowl hangover.

    but you’ve got to give them something to fight for,

    The USA? Our sovereignty, our prosperity, our way of life, our preeminence? Is that enough for you?

  90. #609553
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 2:16 pm, dadinseattle said:

    McConnell seems to want to make the elephants back permanently flat.

    With friends like this , who needs enemies!

  91. #609562
    On February 2nd, 2009 at 2:21 pm, 29Victor said:

    They just don’t get it. I don’t think they ever will.

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