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1. #1
   On February 4th, 2009 at 9:28 am, FilmLadd said:

   16. Repeal the income tax, the payroll tax, FICA, Medicare and Social Security taxes, and all other morally repugnant means of economic slavery. Let my people go!

2. #2
   On February 4th, 2009 at 9:34 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

   Thanks for Senator Coburn’s input-I hope it gets some traction. I do worry about
   “When the American people learn what this bill contains they will reject it. This bill is about spending money we don’t have on things we don’t need” though. WILL the American people learn about all the pork and CONTROL this bill contains? HOW will they learn it, from the MSM? I doubt it.

   Feeding at the public trough has become acceptable when it was once humiliating. Taking from Joe to give to Moe is the new Compassion and honest work is for chumps. Keep up the fight good Senator Coburn, perhaps we can slow this train wreck.

3. #3
   On February 4th, 2009 at 9:35 am, RedDog said:

   Our government is off the rails. Few leaders like Coburn among all the cowardly hysterics and criminals.

4. #4
   On February 4th, 2009 at 9:38 am, fighterDC said:

   Go Tom! Go!

   Unfortunately, I expect few of these amendments to pass. There is just too much insider dealing to allow common sense to prevail.

5. #5
   On February 4th, 2009 at 9:39 am, El_Guapo said:

   We found one! A Republican who knows precisely where his nads are located. Senator, step to the front of the line.

6. #6
   On February 4th, 2009 at 9:40 am, Socky said:

   It used to be that thrift, faith, and self-sufficiency were considered virtues. Indeed, they were considered the traits that helped make America a great country.

   Nowadays, thrift, faith, and rugged individualism have been labeled “extreme right-wing” values.

7. #7
   On February 4th, 2009 at 9:43 am, verogolfer said:

   If we only had 51 senators like Sen. Coburn.

8. #8
   On February 4th, 2009 at 9:44 am, EdDantes said:

   The bill also contains numerous provisions that are about stimulating long-frustrated ideological agendas rather than the economy. Using an economic crisis to extend government’s reach into health care, for example, is not a way to build bridges between the parties.

   That’s another quote from Coburn on the transcript not quoted by Michelle above.

   At least someone gets it.

9. #9
   On February 4th, 2009 at 9:44 am, El_Guapo said:

   Senator Coburn is a breath of fresh air. Of course as long as he keeps making sense like this, the MSM radars will key in on him and characterize him like Gingrich (another PhD). He won’t be labeled as “stoopid” but evil will suffice for the MSM/libs. Fortunately, he doesn’t care what the limp-noodle left thinks.

10. #10
    On February 4th, 2009 at 9:48 am, zeppelin said:

    When I last checked with their offices, at least Sens. Hatch and Bennett (R-UT) were planning on voting against the bill. I passed along Sen. Coburn’s amendments and recommended they support the senator, as it seems they didn’t have amendments to offer of their own. I’m urging all my friends to call in and give support for the amendment.

11. #11
    On February 4th, 2009 at 9:49 am, TheCorruptedLamb said:

    Where the heck did this come from? Is this a Republican? Can’t be, nope no way. I actually sense a backbone somewhere in there!

12. #12
    On February 4th, 2009 at 9:49 am, walterc said:

    I heard an interview on the local radio station with Wy Senator Mike Enzi this morning. His quote of the day “if my constituents want to give money to Hollywood, they’ll buy a movie ticket.”

    Coburn and Enzi, voices in the wilderness.

13. #13
    On February 4th, 2009 at 9:50 am, corkie said:

    Let’s make this simple for the American public by touting this quote about the current stimulus plan.

    “…spending money we don’t have on things we don’t need.“

14. #14
    On February 4th, 2009 at 9:52 am, cheapseat said:

    it sounds like dr coburn has actually held a real job and understands that giving people endless unemployment checks keeps a beaurocracy working and the lazy/criminal class happy. i haven’t yet seen a street activist give anyone a job, so if you want to stimulate the economy, you have to give “the rich” who employ people and invest in things a reason to do so. why would any rational person invest in a company who’s ceo says we are going to spend money we don’t have, and can’t possibly recoup, and the vast bulk of that spending will be on socialist make work programs and projects which we don’t need. call me skeptical.

15. #15
    On February 4th, 2009 at 9:52 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Even Juan McCain on Hannity last night said he opposed the current porkulus bill, and practically sounded Republican.

16. #16
    On February 4th, 2009 at 9:57 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Not sure if Coburn is a PhD or not. He is a medical doctor.

    From Coburn web site (BTW- he term limited himself, not running for a fourth House term in 2000 after making a promise to serve 3 terms. He won his Senate seat in 2004, which may be why he hasn’t subcumbed to the gentlemen’s club crap so many Senators subscribe to.)

    In 1970, Dr. Coburn graduated with an accounting degree from Oklahoma State University. One of the Top Ten seniors in the School of Business, Dr. Coburn served as president of the College of Business Student Council.

    From 1970 to 1978, Dr. Coburn served as manufacturing manager at the Ophthalmic Division of Coburn Optical Industries in Colonial Heights, Virginia. Under his leadership, the Virginia division of Coburn Optical grew from 13 employees to more than 350 and captured 35 percent of the U.S. market.

    After the family business was sold, Dr. Coburn changed the course of his life by returning to school to become a physician. Again he emerged as a leader, becoming president of his class at the University of Oklahoma Medical School where he graduated in 1983. He then did his internship in general surgery at St. Anthony’s Hospital in Oklahoma City and family practice residency at the University of Arkansas, Fort Smith.

    Dr. Coburn returned to Muskogee where he specializes in family medicine, obstetrics and the treatment of allergies. Dr. Coburn has personally delivered more than 4,000 babies.

    Dr. Coburn also is a two-time cancer survivor.

17. #17
    On February 4th, 2009 at 9:58 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Ted Kennedy has voted for laws that helped kill almost 50 million babies, so he has a big lead of dead babies to live babies over Dr. Coburn.

18. #18
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:03 am, kwyoung said:

    Anyone notice how the “stimulus” plan has quietly become an “economic” plan? Much like the “climate change” scam.

19. #19
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:09 am, ErinF said:

    Did I miss something? I didn’t see any demand for cutting ACORN funding.

20. #20
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:11 am, Pat said:

    Stop thief!

    Excellent amendments.

21. #21
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:12 am, ErinF said:

    Even Juan McCain on Hannity last night said he opposed the current porkulus bill, and practically sounded Republican.

    LOL. It’s easy to sound republican when the administration is so leftward you have to snap your neck backwards to look at ‘em.

22. #22
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:15 am, FamilyMan said:

    FilmLadd said:
    16. Repeal the income tax, the payroll tax, FICA, Medicare and Social Security taxes, and all other morally repugnant means of economic slavery. Let my people go!

    You stole my thunder FL. Can I appoint you as Secretary of the Treasury?

23. #23
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:17 am, FamilyMan said:

    Is human cloning legal? Coburn would a good person to start with.

24. #24
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:17 am, jencab said:

    Why is he not the minority leader in the senate?! We have a ball-less leader there in McConnell.

25. #25
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:18 am, Socky said:

    Today’s Rasmussen poll: More Americans oppose than support the “Stimulus”. And the number that say it does more harm than good is now 50%.

26. #26
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:22 am, jimpenny said:

    Yeah…..he’s the real deal. He is as genuine as he seems to be, and I am proud that he represents Oklahoma. We need 50 more just like him. Buttons popping in Tulsa….

27. #27
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:22 am, FamilyMan said:

    Now folks, compare what Coburn thinks with the last thread on Barney Franks verbal diarrhea.
    The line in the sand could not be more obvious.

28. #28
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:25 am, melancholybaby said:

    Any public works included in the bill must have the provision that it may proceed other laws not withstanding. Without this provisions it is possible for the environmental groups to delay the building until it becomes useless as a stimulus.

29. #29
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:26 am, Flyoverman said:

    Mega Dittos Senator Coburn. YOU ROCK!!

    This is Change I can believe in.

30. #30
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:28 am, bluesoc said:

    His amendments seem sensible, but I don’t really think they’d be described as an overhaul.

    For instance, the requirement that states repay the federal government. Won’t that just lead to higher state taxes instead of higher federal taxes? Perhaps the goal is to have states cut back their budgets in the future. Good luck with that.

31. #31
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:31 am, maisy said:

    It’s one thing to have to “watch” over different bills they work on. But doesn’t it seem to anyone else that watching these clowns “govern” has become a fulltime and overwhelming job! Fax, phone,visit your representatives office has become a rallying cry for everything. The death of common sense is complete. Those people in office are too interested in being “club members” than doing the right thing. I for one am sick of it!

32. #32
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:34 am, Flyoverman said:

    bluesoc said: For instance, the requirement that states repay the federal government. Won’t that just lead to higher state taxes instead of higher federal taxes? Perhaps the goal is to have states cut back their budgets in the future. Good luck with that.

    Understandable point. However, many states have constitutions that mandate a balanced budget. Handing them money allows them to spend beyond their means and not violate their constitutions. So lending them money takes away that loophole, because over time it has to be repaid.

    That I believe mitigates the point you were trying to make in some respects.

    Second, and somewhat related to the first, you will ask for less if you have to pay it back.

33. #33
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:36 am, bluesoc said:

    Second, and somewhat related to the first, you will ask for less if you have to pay it back.

    Good point.

34. #34
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:39 am, FilmLadd said:

    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:15 am, FamilyMan said:

    You stole my thunder FL. Can I appoint you as Secretary of the Treasury?

    Ha! No, but I would like to send you a free DVD of my film. I’ve been meaning to broach the subject since I saw in one of the posts that you were somehow in the graphic arts field.

    Not sure how to go about exchanging mailing addy’s on this site though. Bit of a conundrum. Are you on the Friends of Malkin yahoo group?

35. #35
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:43 am, Mister P said:

    I would add that all politicians who receive ANY campaign funds by companies receiving GOVT funds of any kind be removed from office immediately.

36. #36
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:48 am, FamilyMan said:

    FilmLadd said; Are you on the Friends of Malkin yahoo group?

    What is that?

37. #37
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:54 am, Jvette said:

    I once heard Sen. Coburn compare being in the house to Chinese water torture because of the way the good ole boys club constantly prod one into going along to get along. Thank God for men like him, willing to withstand the torture and still fight for what he knows is right.

38. #38
    On February 4th, 2009 at 11:00 am, RedDog said:

    I suspect there are millions of Obama voters who are coming out of their fog and are now experienceing a severe case of buyers remorse. Elections do have consequences. A marxist Pandora’s Box baby.

39. #39
    On February 4th, 2009 at 11:36 am, shunha7878 said:

    I have no idea how the GOP leaders are picked but why is he not the leader in the senate?

40. #40
    On February 4th, 2009 at 12:40 pm, Ahh a Lion! said:

    Nice, speech – unfortunately Coburn voted for the first generational theft act (TARP) on the second go around. Meaning he switched his first no vote to a yes vote after the bill was porked up in the Senate. My question here is this: Does Coburn actually believe what he is saying, or is he just playing politics. If it’s the latter, conservatism has really made any progress.

41. #41
    On February 4th, 2009 at 12:40 pm, Bill Grant said:

    Tom Coburn… Wonder if he’s a RINO….

42. #42
    On February 4th, 2009 at 12:44 pm, dadinseattle said:

    “As currently written, this bill represents the worst act of generational theft in our nation’s history.”

    Gee, this sounds familiar!
    Hope he gave you a hat tip Michelle!

    In the battle of control over the people(politics), it is good to know that some have the good sense to get a pulse of the people on sites like MM!

43. #43
    On February 4th, 2009 at 12:45 pm, long_haired_conservative said:

    Once again, I am proud to have Tom Coburn (and Jim Inhofe) as my senator. They do Oklahoma proud!

    But… Michelle, on your home page, could you please move Coburn’s face a little farther from Barney Frank’s? It’s sorta like a cognitive dissonance seeing them both on there so close together.

44. #44
    On February 4th, 2009 at 12:57 pm, FilmLadd said:

    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:48 am, FamilyMan said:

    What is that?

    Well, never mind, click on my user name and it brings you to my website, there’s two email addresses you can use to contact me (under the “contact” link).

45. #45
    On February 4th, 2009 at 12:57 pm, conservativesRus said:

    I’m sorry Sen. Coburn – you still missed the mark. You made a list of things to correct in the bill – but the foundation is still vapor. The constitution of the US does not give the federal government the authority or right to do almost anything contained in the bill.
    You should have said – until this bill addresses only those things permitted in the constitution, I will not support it.

46. #46
    On February 4th, 2009 at 12:58 pm, Ahh a Lion! said:

    More on Coburn’s TARP vote. Here’s a quote from above:

    “When the American people learn what this bill contains they will reject it. This bill is about spending money we don’t have on things we don’t need. We got into this mess by spending and investing money that didn’t exist. We won’t get out of this mess by doing more of the same. Yet, that is precisely what we are doing,” Dr. Coburn said. “Instead of delivering change, this bill celebrates the politics of the past. The bill represents both the mindless partisanship of recent decades, and the failed interventionist policies of the 1930’s. The Senate can, and must, do much better. As currently written, this bill represents the worst act of generational theft in our nation’s history.”

    Sounds damn good, the 1930s taught us that Hoover and FDR’s intervention in the markets (propping up failed businesses, price fixing, propping up commodity prices, spending money we don’t have, and inflation) only prolonged and exacerbated the depression. So how to defend the TARP vote?

    The TARP “wasn’t for bankers,” he insisted. “It was for anybody in this country who does commerce. If you didn’t put that money in there, we would have a credit freeze today. Instead of having 533,000 jobs gone last month we would have had 1.5 million gone.” The TARP “averted that. How do you measure something that doesn’t happen?”

    Weak… So it sounds like the TARP is basically “spending money we don’t have on things we don’t need. We got into this mess by spending and investing money that didn’t exist. We won’t get out of this mess by doing more of the same.” Also sounds like the TARP “mindless partisanship of recent decades, and the failed interventionist policies of the 1930’s.”

    Is there even one senator who is consistent in their conservatism?

47. #47
    On February 4th, 2009 at 12:59 pm, JustifiedRight said:

    I don’t know why my trackbacks never show up here.

    Here’s my thoughts on this matter.

    I am reminded of the movie Fight Club.

48. #48
    On February 4th, 2009 at 1:02 pm, conservativesRus said:

    On February 4th, 2009 at 9:48 am, zeppelin said:
    I passed along Sen. Coburn’s amendments and recommended they support the senator, as it seems they didn’t have amendments to offer of their own. I’m urging all my friends to call in and give support for the amendment.

    Why offer amendments? Exactly what does that accomplish?
    BAD POLICY is still bad policy even if you wrap it in a pretty box.

49. #49
    On February 4th, 2009 at 1:03 pm, bsmarj said:

    verogolfer writes “If we only had 51 senators like Sen. Coburn.”

    Wait, don’t you mean 58 like him. I thought we had 57 states.

50. #50
    On February 4th, 2009 at 1:05 pm, orlandocajun said:

    Part 1 of my plan…

    If they simply cut corporate, individual and capital gains tax rates, they would spend less money and really stimulate the economy. None of them know what the hell they’re doing. No more bailouts. Let our free market take care of itself.

    Part 2…

    Congress should recess until January 2010.

51. #51
    On February 4th, 2009 at 1:08 pm, Ahh a Lion! said:

    On February 4th, 2009 at 1:05 pm, orlandocajun said:

    Part 1 of my plan…

    If they simply cut corporate, individual and capital gains tax rates, they would spend less money and really stimulate the economy. None of them know what the hell they’re doing. No more bailouts. Let our free market take care of itself.

    Part 2…

    Congress should recess until January 2010.

    Part 3 Cut Government Spending and start paying off the debt.

52. #52
    On February 4th, 2009 at 1:09 pm, conservativesRus said:

    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:34 am, Flyoverman said:
    Second, and somewhat related to the first, you will ask for less if you have to pay it back.

    I don’t know about that….just ask all those with mortgages. Seems they are not having to pay it back in any timely fashion under the “plans” set forth by our government. What is to stop the states from just not paying it back. What would the feds do? NOTHING.

53. #53
    On February 4th, 2009 at 1:12 pm, conservativesRus said:

    On February 4th, 2009 at 11:00 am, RedDog said:
    I suspect there are millions of Obama voters who are coming out of their fog and are now experienceing a severe case of buyers remorse.

    Dead people can have buyers remorse?
    I am still not entirely convinced that Obama won a plurality of legally cast votes.
    I do grant he had a majority of votes cast though.
    (as opposed to MN where it’s votes counted)

54. #54
    On February 4th, 2009 at 1:46 pm, Old Country Boy said:

    Senator Coburn is my senator too, and a darned good one is he.

    As I perused the above comments, the flavor went from praise for Senator Coburn, until one comment saying he voted for the second TARP go-around. Suddenly, all you “self-described conservative” lemmings are on his case. Whatever you Pharasees feel about Senator Coburn, you don’t count. Only I and long_haired-conservative count. Luckily, you “conservative” political puritans can’t vote for him or against him. T.S.

    I believe his second TARP vote was a hedge that if the panic flowing down to him from both political parties had a chance of being correct, it was better to be safe for the American economy. He has since acquired more information.

    For the life of me, I do not understand you single issue or single event “self-described conservatives.” You are so stupid that you would throw out the 99% because you didn’t like the othe 1%. It must be awe inspiring to be a perfect as you, Obama, or God.

55. #55
    On February 4th, 2009 at 1:54 pm, Old Country Boy said:

    One more thing – If you pharasees would worry more about electing a good senator from your state, instead of re-electing the same-old-shhh (SOS), and stop trying to find something wrong with the good senators from other states, you might end up being a lot happier.

56. #56
    On February 4th, 2009 at 1:55 pm, Southpaw said:

    Felt the urge to edit one of Senator Couburns’ comments:
    “As currently written, this bill represents the worst act of generational theft piece of legistration in our nation’s history.”

    The more I read and hear about what’s in this bill, the more I become convinced that it is mind numbingly bad. It represents, in one fell swoop, the liberal democrats attempt to enact the NEW SOCIALISM OF AMERICA.

57. #57
    On February 4th, 2009 at 2:40 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    we would all be better off with rare exception if we just sent congress home for the next 5 years….

    Thanks Senator Coburn!!! my senator…he’s at least trying to keep things above board and call these socialists out for what they are….

58. #58
    On February 4th, 2009 at 3:37 pm, Andy said:

    Dr. Coburn returned to Muskogee where he specializes in family medicine, obstetrics and the treatment of allergies. Dr. Coburn has personally delivered more than 4,000 babies.

    Noteworthy is the fact that most of the legislators are professional politicians, never having had earned a honest dollar in their life. Congress can’t stand the thot of having businesspeople in their rank, hence for the past two years or so, Tom was unable to practice medicine in between session by their own decree.

    Just that act alone is enough for our forefathers to roll over in their graves. Perish the thot that they, as part-time legislators couldn’t go back home to run their farms and businesses during recess. Is the job of legislating really so big that it’s become a full-time job for an army of clerks, assistants, sycophants and “royal princes & princesses”? I think not.

    That’s what we get for amending the Constitution to make the election of Senators a beauty contest, rather than the selection & appointment of State leaders sent to DC to represent their State’s interests.

59. #59
    On February 4th, 2009 at 3:39 pm, Andy said:

    Country Boy, Tired & Long Hair, count me in as another proud Okie. I’m proud of SENs Coburn & Inhofe, as well as REP Fallin. As soon as we get rid of Boren, all will be OK. About the only heartburn I got was their support for McVain, when OK easily could have gone to Mitt. Oh well…

    The key is that people like Coburn et al can’t do it all in one fell swoop. One has to win battles, one fight at a time until the war is won. Sometimes, when fellow ‘soldiers’ panic, stalwarts do all they can to hold the line, lest we get routed.

    Think about what Tom did here. He shined the spotlight on a number of bills and offered counter-proposals, instead of flat-out rejecting them. This is a multi-pronged approach that in the end diminishes the overall tab to the tax-payer.

    Simply saying NO to the whole bacon explosion is exactly the kind of move that Pelosi, Reid and friends would love for conservatives to fall into. So they can dismiss the conservative as obstructionists. Making Solomonic counter-proposals help put the spotlight on the fat and force people to have second thots, and 3rd…

    The longer this gets debated, the more average Schmoes come around to hating it. Remember, Obambi was hoping this would be a done deal within days of taking office.

    On behalf of our kids and grandkids, we have to drag this out as long as possible — at least out into March. By then, this bill would be firmly attached to the Dummocrats and may even be DOA, as well as taking the shine off the ONE.

    Dragging it out also has the added benefit of putting the Porklus in context of the updated stats for February, after factoring out the Christmas related numbers. Rising home sales is but one example of the turn-around occurring before a dime is even spent.

60. #60
    On February 4th, 2009 at 3:50 pm, rightisright said:

    On February 4th, 2009 at 9:43 am, verogolfer said: If we only had 51 senators like Sen. Coburn.

    I can’t even imagine how strong, wealthy and secure America would be with 51 senators like Coburn, Inhofe, Vitter and others. Instead we’re being guided down the path of self destruction by the empty suit, non accomplished product of affirmative action. I want to see his birth certificate and his school records.

61. #61
    On February 4th, 2009 at 4:28 pm, orlandocajun said:

    On February 4th, 2009 at 1:08 pm, Ahh a Lion! said:

    On February 4th, 2009 at 1:05 pm, orlandocajun said:

    Part 1 of my plan…

    If they simply cut corporate, individual and capital gains tax rates, they would spend less money and really stimulate the economy. None of them know what the hell they’re doing. No more bailouts. Let our free market take care of itself.

    Part 2…

    Congress should recess until January 2010.

    Part 3 Cut Government Spending and start paying off the debt.

    That’s a good amendment to the plan. Thanks Lion.

62. #62
    On February 4th, 2009 at 4:35 pm, conservativesRus said:

    On February 4th, 2009 at 1:46 pm, Old Country Boy said:
    I believe his second TARP vote was a hedge that if the panic flowing down to him from both political parties had a chance of being correct, it was better to be safe for the American economy. He has since acquired more information.

    So let me get this straight please. What you are saying is he voted on it not knowing what he was doing?
    Exactly how was TARPII “safer” for the American economy? Are you willing to admit that in fact the vote was wrong?
    Has he come out and stated his vote was wrong (and why).
    I’m not trying to pick on the man. In fact I agree with you he’s one of the better ones – clearly even in the top few.
    Hoever, is our questioning his “real” free market views in light of his TARP vote not a prudent thing to do?

63. #63
    On February 4th, 2009 at 4:59 pm, Texhoma said:

    I am really proud that I voted for him. The Dem. that ran against him tried to convince Okies that he was more of a conservative than Coburn. Thank God it didn’t work.

64. #64
    On February 4th, 2009 at 5:00 pm, Old Country Boy said:

    conservative Rus — What I am saying is that during the lame duck portion (last three months) of the Bush administration, there was an increasing loud chorus of panic voices in the outgoing Bush and Incoming Obama administrations and wall street that the ship of state was floundering and IMMEDIATE action was needed. Most ran in circles screaming and shouting. If this cacophony was unnerving, sobeit. He didn’t join the panic stricken crowed; he did help launch the lifeboats just in case they were needed. If the wisdom at the time was wrong (and I don’t see any indication of the right/wrongness yet) at least he erred on the side of prudence based on the view at the time. By the way we are talking TARP, not TARPII. I’m sure with your pure conservative hindsight, if the results of TARP had been positive and he voted against it, you would be the first to pile on.

65. #65
    On February 4th, 2009 at 5:40 pm, cicerokid said:

    Why can’t the GOP nominate someone like him? No, instead we get…well, you know what I mean.

66. #66
    On February 4th, 2009 at 6:22 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On February 4th, 2009 at 3:50 pm, rightisright said:

    Instead we’re being guided down the path of self destruction by the empty suit, non accomplished product of affirmative action. I want to see his birth certificate and his school records.

    If Obama were as “transparent” as he has promised to be, he would have already released these records.

    But his birth certificate may very well show Kenya as his birthplace (even though his birth was later recoreded in Hawaii per their then-current laws allowing such). And his school records likely show him as an Indonesian citizen, here as an “International student”.

    In Obama’s first week,
    the audacity of deceipt

67. #67
    On February 4th, 2009 at 9:14 pm, Joy said:

    I know MM thinks those of us who want to see his real birth certificate are ‘troofers’, but I really don’t get why he won’t comply with this incredibly simple request. Unless, as is suspected, he has something to hide.

68. #68
    On February 4th, 2009 at 10:16 pm, sbw999 said:

    Here are a few other things that I find morally reprehensible:

    Republicans that abandon conservative principles and spend like Democrats (see the past 8 years)…

    Republicans that won’t protect our borders, and call other Republicans who support border enforcement, “racists”…

    Republicans that did not have the back bone to stand up against political correctness while they sat and watched Dems bully lenders into making billions of dollars of loans that weren’t worth the paper they were written on…

    Republicans that supported a RINO named John McCain for President, who lost the WH to a Marxist…

    Elections have consequences people. We wouldn’t be in this liberal/socialist mess, if conservatives acted like conservatives when we had the political power. I find THAT morally reprehensible.