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1. #612794
   On February 5th, 2009 at 2:40 pm, ThatSamIAm said:

   You thinik Odrama is figuring out he’s not in Chicago anymore? He can’t circumvent all the rules now. He doesn’t get to use all the pay-to-play options. Or maybe he is just now figuring out the answer to every tough question can no longer be “It’s George Bush’s fault”.

   You’re not on the campaign trail anymore The One. The media love fest is starting to slow and it’s washing away your glow.

2. #612799
   On February 5th, 2009 at 2:41 pm, twofoot said:

   Gods mercy what I would give for a Constitutional amendment that required all bills to be “clean” bills. As well as a sunset clause on all bills other than tax cuts.

3. #612801
   On February 5th, 2009 at 2:42 pm, James Felix said:

   A question that far too few people seem interested in asking is “how can these people pass any legislation that they haven’t fully read?”. This may be a big, obvious example of it but the practice seems horrifyingly common in both houses of congress.

4. #612810
   On February 5th, 2009 at 2:46 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

   How about “We the People” say:

   The Democratic Socialist “leadership” in Washington, D.C.
   (including Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and others) is
   

   “RULED OUT OF ORDER“

5. #612814
   On February 5th, 2009 at 2:48 pm, sonofdy said:

   sonofdy Amdt #798

   A one time payment to Michelle Malkin of 1 million dollars and to each of her registered posters of 1 million dollars as long as they are registered as of 02/04/2009.

6. #612817
   On February 5th, 2009 at 2:49 pm, sonofdy said:

   how can these people pass any legislation that they haven’t fully read?

   Reading is for the little people.

7. #612818
   On February 5th, 2009 at 2:49 pm, WarTip said:

   They do not care about passing legislation that they have read … as they do not have the time to read it and by re-electing these … ummmmm … people all the time, they have no cause to read them even if they wanted to. Until we hold their collective political feet to the fire they will continue to act in such a manner. Given the level of political apathy and the freedom which we allow dead people, illegal aliens and others to vote … well the future does not look bright enough for even a cheap pair of sunglasses.

8. #612826
   On February 5th, 2009 at 2:58 pm, kwyoung said:

   On February 5th, 2009 at 2:48 pm, sonofdy said:
   sonofdy Amdt #798

   A one time payment to Michelle Malkin of 1 million dollars and to each of her registered posters of 1 million dollars as long as they are registered as of 02/04/2009.

   AGREED TO VOICE VOTE at 2:58 PM, 02.05.2009

9. #612833
   On February 5th, 2009 at 3:01 pm, RedDog said:

   Willfully ignorant political leaders entrenched in power are a curse on any nation.

   As I said earlier: Congress should adjourn for two full years and give the national economy the time to heal itself. We don’t need any more governmental “help” for the time being. The longer the government meddles in this crisis, the longer and deeper it will last. The only positive action they can take at this point is to radically reduce taxes and spending – something they are apparently incapable of.

10. #612835
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:03 pm, Weary Citizen said:

    On February 5th, 2009 at 2:48 pm, sonofdy said:

    Aye! The Aye’s have it. Yipppeeee!

11. #612841
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:06 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    Hell, they didn’t read the articles of impeachment against Bill Clinton, why should they read the bill that’s supposed to “Save Our Economy”?

12. #612847
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:11 pm, taylork said:

    To ensure that any action taken under this act of any funds made available under this act that are subject to the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) protect the public health of communities across the country.

    I guess this would mean that it would take at least one year before any new infrastructure projects could break ground. Stimulus my eye.

13. #612848
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:11 pm, rocketman said:

    ***
    I keep thinking that it would have been a lot better for the American People if the fourth plane hijacked on 9/11/2001 had made it to its intended target–the Capitol Building–when the full House and Senate were in session.
    ***
    A bad thought for a Christian–but all we get from our “representatives” is more theft and corruption.
    ***
    That would have been term limits you could believe in. Our government makeup would be a lot different now. Maybe the Devil prevented that last plane from hitting the building. Our present Congress serves him better than it serves us.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

14. #612851
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:12 pm, babiesgrandma said:

    sonofdy said:
    sonofdy Amdt #798 A one time payment to Michelle Malkin of 1 million dollars and to each of her registered posters of 1 million dollars as long as they are registered as of 02/04/2009.

    I’ll take mine in gold coins, please (no paper money for me!).

15. #612852
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:12 pm, iamsaved said:

    The Democrats favorite ploy. Give the voters all the pork they want. Kick the can down the road and when the irresponsible legislation catches up and the consequences become known, blame the Republicans for the mess. It’s as cyclical as the seasons (if you live in temperate climates where seasons actually do exist).

16. #612853
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:12 pm, taylork said:

    Remember when Obama said we need to use a scalpel not a hatchet when dealing with the budget? Turns out he was referring to implants.

17. #612856
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:13 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    WITHDRAWN UNANIMOUS CONSENT at 8:55 PM, 02.03.2009

    McCain Amdt #278

    To reimplement Gramm-Rudman-Hollings to require deficit reduction and spending cuts upon 2 consecutive quarters of positive GDP growth.

    First Senator Grahamnesty criticizes Obama’s porkulus bill, now Juan McCain tries to introduce a conservative amendment to the rotting corpse, what is this world comng to?

18. #612857
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:13 pm, GaMidnightRider said:

    This is prime example why we need to march on D.C. and run these so called leaders out of OUR government. We need to take back our country and put people in place that realize they work for US (WE THE PEOPLE) not special interest. How can they be so stupid as to see the crap they rushed through last year is not working only to rush to do more of the same stupid stuff.
    I call for a revolution. Our founding fathers knew this day would come and gave us away to make sure we where able to take back control. If they pass this we will never be able to look our kids or grandkids in the face and beleive in our hearts we where doing what was best for them.

19. #612863
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:16 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On February 5th, 2009 at 2:42 pm, James Felix said:

    A question that far too few people seem interested in asking is “how can these people pass any legislation that they haven’t fully read?”. This may be a big, obvious example of it but the practice seems horrifyingly common in both houses of congress.

    I agree.

    I’ve seen two good suggestions on this topic…either:

    1) Prohibit bills that are any longer than the Constitution itself.

    2) Require all bills to be read out loud, word for word, in each chamber respectively, before that chamber can vote on the bill.

    That would put an end to votes on 736 page bills, period.

    Instead, they exist and are rushed through committee with no hearings, and could pass after being on the floor for less than one week.

    The Congress members voting on this have most likely not read the bill, and don’t know the “unintended consequences” that await.

    Have you ever stopped to think about who WROTE this 736 page bill?

    I say that the writing of this bill was not rushed…the authors have had written up exactly what they want for some time now, just waiting for the right opportunity to “cut and paste” what they want into a bill that won’t be read before it is voted on. I believe that was also the case with the “bailout” that was pushed in September.

    The Socialists know what they want, and they are using pressure tactics to push it through without debate.

    This is not “Change we can believe in”. This is business as usual for the Democratic Socialists.

    Real change in Washington would come in the form of people like Mike Huckabee and Sarah Palin.

    Here’s Washington’s idea of a stimulus plan: Borrow trillions of dollars from the Chinese—plunging us all in endless debt for years to come—to try and prop up our sagging economy today.

    Folks, that’s not a stimulus package, it’s a shell game, and it’s bad news for all of us.

    …

    This year, in our darkest financial hour in generations, we especially need to tell Washington why the FairTax is THE way to stimulate the economy.

    We need to tell Washington how the FairTax will bring in trillions in capital investment.

    We need to tell Washington how the FairTax will enable workers to keep their whole paycheck to help cover their bills and mortgages.

    We need to tell Washington how the FairTax will unleash the American economy–and the timeless American spirit of free enterprise and innovation.

    -Mike Huckabee

20. #612864
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:16 pm, RetFireman said:

    So glad to be a registered member.

    They never read anything. they have paid associates that give them the “gist” of each bill, and then they look at the polls and vote accordingly.

    There is not a soul in Congress with a single ouce of ethics. They say what needs to be said to get elected and then vote just to stay in power.

    Is there any doubt that if the polls were going in favor of this debacle that it would not pass 100%, regardless of the horrendous, irrepairable destruction it will do to this nation and it’s economy?

    The population of this country are incredibly ignorant of anything having to do with this “stimulus” package, let alone the problems facing the nation on a whole, otherwise they never would have voted the buffoon into office in the first place.

21. #612866
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:16 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    The only the thing they are deliberate about is looking out for themselves.

    It’s pitchfork time!

22. #612869
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:24 pm, kthomas8268 said:

    ok let me get this straight…. they vote down working on reducing the deficit, on cutting goverment spending on earmarks and giving working Americans a tax cut. THE HYPOCRISY OF THIS REALLY REALLY PISSES ME OFF! Anyone from Indiana want to take a trip to D.C. to protest?

23. #612871
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:25 pm, simcoe said:

    Hey, you lazy DC Democrats I think you guys are missing the big picture here.

    Don’t just socialize America socialize the entire galaxy. Why stop at $1 trillion, when you can build and launch your own Death Star for $15 septillion. You can help Iran keep their Mohamed satellite up and nuke every red state and free thinking nation or planet from orbit.

24. #612872
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:26 pm, sonofdy said:

    The only the thing they are deliberate about is looking out for themselves.

    It’s pitchfork time!

    Im in, Right after I get the cash from the sonofdy amendment.

    gots to get me an ar-15….

25. #612874
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:28 pm, WarTip said:

    You can have your AR15/M16. I still prefer the M14 waaaaaaaaaaaaay more.

26. #612875
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:28 pm, pianoman said:

    “I’m out of order? You’re out of order! The whole trial is out of order! They’re out of order!”

    –Al Pacino, And Justice For All

27. #612877
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:28 pm, mdt said:

    And yet the only worthwhile amendment I can think of cannot even be debated!!!

    http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/february-4-2009/crucial-day-e-verify-amendments-senate.html

28. #612892
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:35 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    I believe any US Senator can request the chair to read the entire bill in its entirety.

    I could be wrong, but I think it was one of the things McConnell did to Reid last November or December to show displeasure on the slow pace of getting Bush’s judges out of committee for floor votes.

    If that is indeed possible, someone needs to do it, and fast.

29. #612898
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:41 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    gots to get me an ar-15….

    Obama has sold every last one in America and there is a waiting list – which Holder probably has right now.

30. #612907
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:48 pm, Lan Astaslem said:

    Harkin Amdt #338

    To require the Secretary of the Treasury to carry out a program to enable certain individuals to trade certain automobiles for certain new automobiles.

    WTH?!?! Does this mean that certain individuals cannot currently trade certain automobiles for certain new automobiles? Who knew?!?!

    This whole thing pisses me off more every day. I love the idea of forcing the bill to be read out loud. Can we start a petition to force that??

31. #612911
    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:50 pm, twofoot said:

    Obama has sold every last one in America and there is a waiting list – which Holder probably has right now.

    Got one last week while I was home. Carbine version. For 200 less than MSRP.

    It’s ammo I am having trouble finding.

32. #612940
    On February 5th, 2009 at 4:13 pm, RetFireman said:

    If the Garand can defeat Nazis…

33. #612941
    On February 5th, 2009 at 4:14 pm, twofoot said:

    Why stop at $1 trillion, when you can build and launch your own Death Star for $15 septillion.

    First, don’t give them any ideas.

    Second, I think the numbers are wrong. The first Death Star was built with droid labor as well as a huge amount of slave labor. Both Wookie slaves and inmates from the prison planet Despayre. (Which was coincidentally the first test bed for the superlaser on the Death Star.)

    The slave labor alone would have knocked off at least a million. Sheesh.

34. #612959
    On February 5th, 2009 at 4:25 pm, RetFireman said:

    First, don’t give them any ideas.

    It doesn’t matter. All they are doing is printing the money they want now. What makes you think they aren’t planning on getting this thing muscled through, nationalizing the banks and then printing all the money in the world they want?

    If you haven’t read the article in Salon today, they are already saying how the 70’s were a wonderland, and it is the Reagan/Republican Revolution of the last 30 years that is to blame, and nothing else.

    They merely want to return to those “Glory Days of Yester-year”, only this time, making the Socialist improvements that Carter and the Dems of that time were too scared to make.

35. #612962
    On February 5th, 2009 at 4:27 pm, bjc said:

    *The bill will pass, there is no getting around that; There are enough traitors to the constitution in both parties to do this dirty deed and 2010 may be too late to reverse the tide, so may I suggest, IMPEACH P-BO NOW!

36. #612969
    On February 5th, 2009 at 4:32 pm, behiker said:

    How do we organize a march on the Capitol? The time is here and now that the people take our country back from these idiots. I have such a sick feeling in my stomach that I could throw up. And just chatting about it on here isn’t going to do anything; it’s time to act! They seem to ignore phone calls and emails, but they can’t ignore throngs of angry Americans on the steps. Name the time and spread the message far and wide and I’ll be there.

37. #612974
    On February 5th, 2009 at 4:34 pm, kthomas8268 said:

    To require the Secretary of the Treasury to carry out a program to enable certain individuals to trade certain automobiles for certain new automobiles.

    Certain Individuals = Liberals
    Certain Automobiles = 1980 and older
    Certain NEW Automobiles =Jaguar,Ferrari,

38. #612992
    On February 5th, 2009 at 4:40 pm, ClassicFilm said:

    Jefferson, Churchill, and Reagan must be rolling over in their graves about now:

    The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. — Sir Winston Churchill

    A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned–this is the sum of good government. — Thomas Jefferson

    Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. — Ronald Reagan

39. #612997
    On February 5th, 2009 at 4:41 pm, kthomas8268 said:

    How do we organize a march on the Capitol? The time is here and now that the people take our country back from these idiots.

    I’m in

40. #613013
    On February 5th, 2009 at 4:51 pm, WarTip said:

    That would be something worth coming back to the states for if only I could afford it. Maybe if I pose as an illegal alien I can get free passage or someone to subsidize my trip?

41. #613021
    On February 5th, 2009 at 4:55 pm, ClassicFilm said:

    On February 5th, 2009 at 4:51 pm, WarTip said:

    That would be something worth coming back to the states for if only I could afford it. Maybe if I pose as an illegal alien I can get free passage or someone to subsidize my trip?

    ROFL!

42. #613033
    On February 5th, 2009 at 5:00 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    I believe any Senator can request a reading of the bill in consideration.

    But I’m not sure.

    I’m an engineer, not a lawyer.

43. #613049
    On February 5th, 2009 at 5:13 pm, jeffshultz said:

    I don’t believe it – something I think I agree with Russ Feingold on:

    Feingold Amdt #140

    To provide greater accountability of taxpayers’ dollars by curtailing congressional earmarking and requiring disclosure of lobbying by recipients of Federal funds.

44. #613061
    On February 5th, 2009 at 5:23 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On February 5th, 2009 at 3:12 pm, babiesgrandma said:

    sonofdy said:
    sonofdy Amdt #798 A one time payment to Michelle Malkin of 1 million dollars and to each of her registered posters of 1 million dollars as long as they are registered as of 02/04/2009.

    I’ll take mine in gold coins, please (no paper money for me!).

    I would like to have mine paid in Interns…. since Im getting screwed in this whole deal anyway, I might as well have someone to handle the ‘paperwork’ for me.

45. #613078
    On February 5th, 2009 at 5:41 pm, Cosmo said:

    I misread the headline. I thought it read the most “debilitated” body in the world.

    Wait…

46. #613319
    On February 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm, Common Sense said:

    pork = bribes for people who vote but don’t pay taxes.

    The vision of Americans and strong and independent people is quickly fading into the past. Too many people are ignorant of history and the Constitution and want something for nothing.

    My eldest son (22) asked me how we could reverse the socialism we’re headed towards. I told him that we would have to have a revolution, there would be no other way to wrest power from the socialists.

47. #613464
    On February 6th, 2009 at 2:26 am, Terry_Jim said:

    I saw a fraud alert story on TV yesterday,a woman had her CC info nabbed by a phony auto warranty renewal call. According to an expert,
    one of the tips that it was fraud was the hook of urgency -”you must decide right NOW to receive this great deal”.

    Then today the President says- If you don’t pass this NOW,we may NEVER recover.

    Scam artists come in all sizes.

    Porkulus, Spendulous, Scamulus, it must die.

48. #613838
    On February 6th, 2009 at 11:48 am, dan708 said:

    Hoo-boy! This is why they say that sausage and legislation are two things you don’t want to see while they’re being made. Trouble is, we really NEED to see what’s going on with this legislation. Thank you, MM and others who are giving us the specifics.

49. #614035
    On February 6th, 2009 at 1:52 pm, nail49 said:

    how can these people pass any legislation that they haven’t fully read?

    Would any level-headed person buy a home, car, jewelry, TV, WHATEVER without understanding exactly what it is they are getting?

    I guess Congress doesn’t have to read what they vote for or against, because they aren’t paying for it, we are.