Gird your loins: The Senate thieves rush to pass trillion-dollar porkulus; Update: Dear Harry, Show us the bill!
Update…go here for breakdown of changes proposed by Collins/Nelson amendment…Update: An open letter to Harry Reid asking for the full text of the “compromise.”
Here’s where things stand. The Senate will be in session today from about noon to 3:00pm Eastern. Members will speak, but there won’t be any roll call votes. Cloture will reportedly be filed on the Cave-In/”Compromise” amendment from Sens. Collins and Nelson. The cloture vote (to end debate) on the amendment is scheduled for Monday at 5:30pm Eastern. GOP minority leader Mitch McConnell’s office tells us that “if cloture is invoked on the amendment post cloture time will run until noon on Tuesday. At noon on Tuesday the bill will be subject to another 60 vote hurdle by either waiving a budget point of order or achieving 60 votes on final passage.”
They’re taking Sunday off.
Question: Who has seen the Collins/Nelson cave-in amendment? Where is it? When can we, the taxpayers, see it? SHOW US THE BILL.
Here’s the list of Friday’s Roll Call Votes. Of note: Sen. Vitter’s amendment to ban ACORN funding failed 45-51. More:
· Coburn #176 (no bid contracts) passed 97-0
· Coburn #309 (wasteful spending) passed 73-24
· Graham/Conrad #501 (foreclosure prevention) failed 39-57
· Grassley #297 (FMAP) failed 47-49
· Cantwell #274 (energy tax incentives) motion to waive budget act passed 80-16
· Vitter #107 (no $ for ACORN) failed 45-51
· Bunning #531 (capitol loss) failed 41-55
· Thune #538 (tax rebate) motion to waive the budget act failed 35-61
And here’s McConnell’s statement released late last night:
WASHINGTON, DC – U.S. Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell made the following remarks on the Senate floor Friday regarding the Democrats’ agreement on the trillion-dollar spending bill:
“The question of whether or not the economy needs help is really not in debate. I don’t think there’s a single member of the Senate that believes that no action is the appropriate course for us to take.
“But one of the good things about reading history is you learn a good deal. And, we know for sure that the big spending programs of the New Deal did not work.
“In 1940, unemployment was still 15%. And, it’s widely agreed among economists, that what got us out of the doldrums that we were in during the Depression was the beginning of World War II.
“We have another example.
“What is called in Japan the Lost Decade of the 1990′s, where stimulus packages similar to the one we’re considering tonight were tried again, and again, and again. And, at the end of the 1990′s, Japan, looked very much like it did at the beginning of the 1990′s, except that it had a much larger debt.
“Now, we’ve not seen the compromise proposal, which has been discussed here tonight. And, I know there’s been a good faith effort on the part of those involved to pare down the size of the underlying Senate measure.
“But as near as we can tell, even after those efforts, it is roughly the same size as the House bill.
“According to the figures I’ve been given, the House bill is about $820 billion. The Senate bill, under the compromise, we believe, would be about $827 billion. Bear in mind the interest costs on either of those proposals would be $348 billion. So we’re really talking about a $1.1 trillion pending measure.
“A $1.1 trillion spending measure. We’re looking at a $1 trillion deficit for this fiscal year.
“We believe that the Secretary of the Treasury and the President will suggest to us as early as next week that we need to do — what has commonly become referred to as a TARP round – some kind of additional assistance for the financial system as early as next week. We’re talking about an extraordinarily large amount of money and a crushing debt for our grandchildren.
“Now, if most Republicans were convinced that this would work, there might be a greater willingness to support it. But all the historical evidence suggests that it’s highly unlikely to work. And so, you have to balance the likelihood of success versus the crushing debt that we’re levying on the backs of our children, our grandchildren, and, yes, their children.
“And the need to finance all of this debt which many suspect would lead to ever higher and higher interest rates which could create a new round of problems for our economy.
“So let me just sum it up by saying no action is not what any of my Republican colleagues are advocating. But most of us are deeply skeptical that this will work. And that level of skepticism leads us to believe that this course of action should not be chosen.
“We had an opportunity to do this in a truly bipartisan basis and the President said originally he had hoped to get 80 votes. It appears that, the way this has developed, there will be some bipartisan support, but not a lot. And it’s not likely, in the judgment of most of us, to produce the result that we all desire.
“So, I will not be in a position to recommend support for this product as it has developed in spite, again, of the best efforts of those who worked on the compromise. I commend them for their willingness to try to work this out. It seems to me that it falls far short of the kind of measure that we should be passing.
I ask again: Where is the cave-in amendment? When does the tax-paying public that will fund this Generational Theft Act get to see it? SHOW US THE BILL.
Thanks to all of you who have melted the phones to stop passage of this Mt. Kilimanjaro-sized, gold-plated pile of crapola. The voicemail and e-mail boxes of the U.S. Senate are completely filled. You can find local district phone and contact information for every U.S. senator here. Don’t stop.
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I have faxed minority leaders, and will do it again.
Spectre and Collins must be threatened with expulsion from the caucus (no loss if they won’t filibuster anyway) if they vote for Porkulus or no more money from me for the national RNC or Senatorial Campaign Committee.
On the fax to McConnell, I listed previous donations, even to Juan McCain’s national campaign against Obama, but never again.
Yes, lets see the bill!
Somehow or another I have a feeling they are going to be ignoring those voicemail and email inboxes until sometime next week. Well after it’s to late to actually save the republic.
(no $ for ACORN) failed 45-51
Time to apply for a job at ACORN.
If they vote before the bill is made public, isn’t that a constitutional issue? I’m just asking….
There’s not even a single Senator with the courage to call for a public reading of the bill? Swine. The entire lot of them.
#6
I think even the minority can demand public reading of the bill, and at ~800 pages, it should take a while.
I thought one of Obama’s campaign promises was to make all bills available to the public for 5 days prior to a vote?
Sort of OT
Obama propagandist and copywright cheat arrested on outstanding warrants.
tonyr…that was on the news the other day and his admin said AFTER this bill they will get that policy going.
LMAO…typical Chicago politician…
WHERE IS MICHAEL STEELE IN ALL OF THIS?
Once again, party “leadership” is AWOL. There will be NO penalty for the Collins, Spectors, Voinovichs, etal. The freedom our ancestors fought valiantly for and at great cost in blood, we are simply voting away in a phony spirit of vapid bipartisanship. I could just cry.
Typical scumbag criminal you mean. The man should be back on the block “organizing” instead of sitting in the Oval Office doing everything he can to destroy the country.
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A thousand page bill with a trillion dollar price tag–with tremendous implications for the future of the new U.S.S.A. And President O’Bummer states that “this is only the beginning!”.
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No time to read the bill aloud–and it is so “critical to our country” that we can’t take a few weeks to get it right.
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No way to filibuster it–the “special deals” (aka bribes) for the two Maine RINO senators (Collins and Snow) are in the bag. Ditto for RINO senator Specter. The train is on track and is speeding for the cliff–taxpayers be damned!
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When cloture is proclaimed I hope that ALL REAL REPUBLICANS AND ANY “BLUE DOG” DEMOCRATS WALK OUT OF THE SENATE. And I would also recommend a BRAVEHEART STYLE REAR END SALUTE (aka “dropping trousers”) just before leaving. It would set a real precedent! CNN could get some real video there.
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Official RINO hunting season is now open. Michael Steele will lead the charge soon.
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John Bibb
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Michael Steele needs to be leading the charge now! No backroom meetings with the RINOs. He needs to have a very public press conference annoucing that any “republican” that votes for the Socialism Act of 2009 will not only not be able to count on election funds from the party, but can count on the party doing everything possible to ensure they are defeated in the next election.
It’s time for party discipline. Otherwise, it’s time for a new party.
OK…so let me state I’m agnostic but I am reminded of a line when Jesus was on the cross: “Forgive them Father for they know what what they do…”.
Well…they damn well know what they are doing and I ain’t into ever forgiving this one. The criminals will pay one day for this.
Anyone got a RNC fax?
Expel the RINOs. 62 or 63 Dems is no different from 59 Dems if the usual suspects will always cave, and if they won’t spine up on this disaster, they never will.
Here is a story in the NYT’s about how the Japan mega-infrastructure stimulus plan worked out.
The critical time will be when the bill actually comes out of conference committee. That’s when they’ll have put everything back in and really loaded it up with more pork.
Vote NO!! Now and Always!!
http://www.gop.com/Connect/ContactUs.htm
Do you think the Prompterbama Administration has completed the script for the Big Prime Time Press Conference on Monday? You think the reporters that will be selected to ask questions know who they are? I bet Prompterbama will have an earpiece hooked into our new Census Chief Rahm Emmanuel to make sure he does not veer off course with his answers! ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES and once redistricting begins the conservatives may never have a voice in Washington again.
Here is Steele’s weekly address.
http://www.youtube.com/rnc
He should be kicking @ss of the rinos (lower case .. they don’t deserve upper case) and collecting their GOP membership card.
ACORN? How can anyone support giving so called stimulus funds to that partisan, voter registration, fraud committing wing of the Democratic Party? Or support giving funds to any other ogranization that is political in nature or as a reward for their “loyal” support to the Democratic Party?
It’s these kind of assinine decisions by our elected officials who are financially supporting programs like these that are making economically sensible people outraged.
Stimulus bill – give me a break. This is a liberal plan to force their social agenda and government control over more and more facets of our lives. Any economic recovery is secondary. Once they have the control and money they seek, maybe, just maybe, these useful idiots will turn their attention to really dealing with the current economic problems.
How did this country get into the state its in by electing the likes of people like Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Dodd, Leahy, Schumer, Waters, Kennedy, and all of the other left leaning clowns.
And Obama, that takes the cake. This man has proven to be a liar. Not only one time but on many occasions. And the left had the nerve to call Bush a liar? When they chose Obamanation, they elected the oldest son of Satan, the father of lies.
Keep watching. This man who appeared to many as an “angel of light” will expose his true nature in due time.
It was said that in these times, men would call evil good and good evil. Obama and Bush, respectively, are a good example of this.
Actually it’s much worse. This doesn’t take into account the $700+ billion from the TARP bill nor the several hundred billion dollar deficit we have run, on average for a few years now, on the regular budget that has yet to be passed (and will wind-up somewhere north of $3 trillion).
So I’d put the deficit for this fiscal year at between 2 and 3 trillion.
If you don’t know, study up on the Germans of the Weimar Republic. Have you bought your wheelbarrow yet?
I am sick at heart over this. I have spent the last few days calling, calling, calling. I was told by staffers that Webb (VA) and Nelson (FL) were “soft” – ha! Party loyalty apparently is more important than doing what’s right for the country.
BTW, I also called the WH comment line and my comment was that Obama is in over his head, this isn’t an imperial presidency, and he does not have my support.
I was working out in the gym and watching cable while on the treadmill.
There was a “guest” on one of the shows who stated that the purpose of the stimulus bill is to “make Americans confident enough to start borrowing again”. I almost fell off the treadmill.
Read Griffin’s Creature from Jekyll Island or other Austrian school authors about the Federal Reserve and you will realize that this is about the cabal continuing to create a permanent indentured class, NOT about “saving the economy”.
If I hear one more Senator say that Americans WANT bipartisanship, I’m going to drive to D.C. and slap them in the face.
Do you hear me, Susan Collins?
Hey Obama! Where’s my TAX CUT??? You PROMISED me a TAX CUT!!! You said 95% of Americans would get a TAX CUT – WHERE IS IT?
Either push for it or admit that you LIED to get elected.
Acorn will need that money to register all those illegal aliens that will soon be newly minted “citizens” in time to vote for Obama’s re-election. The GOP has stupidly helped the socialists import the voter base they needed to ensure their success.
Nope. Not me. Mrs Twofoot and I are about to have all our debts paid. After that, never again will we have a credit card. After that, once-years down the road-the economy starts to recover (here’s hoping) the only debt we will consider taking on will be a house payment. I am done with credit.
As Dave Ramsey says, “credit is something we use to buy things we don’t need, with money we don’t have, to impress people we don’t like”…
Wiser words have seldom been spoken.
When I called Collins of Maine, her voice-mail was full. Obviously she didn’t listen to her constituents (or taxpayers) and went for the Democrat’s gazillion-dollar giveaway. Mitch McConnell ought to lock her idiotic persona in a closet for the rest of her term and throw away the key. WHAT is wrong with these idiots? Specter too. I hope BOTH go down in flames next election.
This amendment would have scrapped the entire stimulus bill and instead given every taxpayer a prorata tax credit for his share of the $900 billion — $5K for individuals and $10K for married filing jointly.
Why wouldn’t the voters go for this over billions for ACORN?
I rescind my citizenship. This is NOT my country any longer. I refuse to pay for it’s total destruction.
If we the American public have any sense at all we’ll act with our votes and our wallets in response to this action. Find out where your Pork Pie Politician has his fingers and stop spending money there. Support NOTHING they support and VOTE THEM OUT at your first chance!
Because it wouldn’t do anything to pay back the various special interest groups behind the democrat party. It also wouldn’t do as much to force socialism down our throats.
Twofoot: be careful paying off all of your debts. I live in the high-rent district of Pasadena, have size-able investments, plenty of cash in the bank and no debt, pay all of my bills on time and yet I can’t get my credit rating above the 700 threshhold to qualify for a mortgage. It’s a stupid system but what can you do. The entrenched criminal class of weasels makes the rules.
Obama has made a big deal about the trade deficit doubling during over the 8 Bush years. He’s now trying to do in 3 weeks what Bush took 8 years.
I’m still trying to reach Specter’s office. My comments will not sway him, but at least I can Vent on one of his flunkies.
Mark le roi (King Mark?): I would vote my Congressman out except the GOP never runs a candidate and in CA, the GOP usually seems to support the Dem over the Rep. Something about “electability”. Where did I hear that before? Isn’t that why the RNC torpedoed the conservative in the primary arguing that principles don’t matter anymore, it’s about “electability”?
Yeah, worked great.
Now you know why I keep screaming!
BAYYYYRACKKKKK!!!!!!
WHERE’S MY CHECK??????????
If this POS Stimulus Package gets voted in, we will have to work for Government or a Union if we want to feed our kids…..
Here is the place to go to see all the projects requested in your state:
http://www.stimulouswatch.org
Try and find ONE project that will benefit you personally–good luck!!
Keep up the pressure on Collins, Snowe and Spector–call other lines and tell them to tell Collins, Snowe and Spector how you feel. Call any line you can get through on–make them all aware that they do not have the Constitutional right to dothis to our children—taxation without representation.
Since Michael Steele is cleaning house at the RNC, he should make it a point to watch who out of the Congressional GOP votes for this steaming pile of crap. Anyone who does should be cut off from future RNC funding, and banned from any role in the GOP for an indefinite period of time. If they vote for this, they obviously don’t remember what the GOP stands for and need to change their party affiliation from (R) to (D).
Conservative America is sick and tired of this bull that RINO’s pull for the sake of “bipartisanship” – they need to get a clue, it doesn’t exist with the party of the messiah.
For those who need some humor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEDIyztZGBA
opps can’t spell:
http://www.stimuluswatch.org
so sorry…………..
I’m spending my Saturday emailing and calling senators, and signing every petition I can find. Doubtful, but maybe there is still hope. This bill fails on every level, especially common sense. Please say something!
anybody thinks that the republicans, or any conservatives of any type are going to get into power again is dreaming. like smilin joe stalin said, it only matters who counts the votes…
the country I grew up in is over…it was fun while it lasted, things are going to get ugly real quick not only in the economy, but our position in the world…russia, iran, china, etc are just waiting to stick it to us…and they will not let any opportunity pass….
I would invest in lead, gold and euros…..cause our money will be worthless in a couple of years…
*Don’t put all this traitorism from Collins, Snowe, and Spector on Steele; He is just now getting his sea legs; The real blame goes to McConnell and Grahamnesty, for in the beginning they were far too receptive to this evil porkalooza bill, allowing cover for the other three to get in the game; McConnell poked the puppy with his support of the original sin bailout, so he hasn’t the cred to keep his members in line.
*Boehner was also a letdown on the original sin bailout, but has since come to his senses and was able to maintain unity.
*Some Democrats may still peel off from this catastrophe of a bill; That is our only hope.
*As I have said before, like it or not, the GOP is still the only pathway back to our constitutional Republic, and any efforts outside of their sphere of infuence will be found to be counterproductive.
*In this time of crisis the liberal nutbags have given us a Carter with a tan when we desperately need a Churchill with a plan(Romney).
Seems pretty simple to me. If they refuse to read the bill, it obviously must contain material that the don’t want the general public to know about until after it’s passed.
Just remember they can put back in anything they took out in Conference Committee!! That is where the real bill will be written.
right4life,
Thanks for the assessment sunshine, but people will see this for what it is quicker than you think. Its already starting. The One’s approval went from 73% to 61% (RCP average) And congress has soared to 27%… Don’t give up my friend.
Twofoot:
We’re with you. My spouse is currently stationed in CA, and the unrealistic way they spend their $$$ infuriates me.
I signed up for Amazon Prime and paid the $59 fee for shipping; we ordered all our Christmas gifts online via Amazon or the PX and got free shipping & no sales tax. No way I was going to support the local economy here (which is very anti-military, BTW).
We were lucky enough to sell a rental property in 2005 at a profit and had planned on using that capital to open a business. Instead, we’ve paid down our mtg. Our cars were paid for in cash, and we only have one small credit card for necessities like renting a car, etc. We don’t carry a balance.
For Pasadena Phil, try joining a local credit union and establishing a credit rating there. As a shareholder/member, you usually get a better rate and more of a fair review. You can also join one of the alternative rating agencies like pay rent build credit, and log in all your on-time rental and utility payments.
Notice in the MSM they are not telling people that the fed has inflated the money supply by I believe 70% since Oct? At this point, with no commodity basis for the FRN, it’s just monopoly money.
No wonder that House Rep stated, “who cares”?
Jon B,
I agree with you — which is why I am going to concentrate my efforts on calls to Senators to demand that they read the bill IN FULL before the cloture vote.
I want to know what exactly is in it too.
It must be really juicy if they are using the high alert panic mode fear button.
I hope that everyone commenting has already contacted their senator or congressman. I had to leave messages with remote offices because the DC lines were full.
I’ve called and sent post cards. Will send more postcards today.
This massive, pork-laden bill will stimulate the economy.
Not immediately, but when inflation rates become unstoppable because of all this “new money”, people will get to more spending, as saving will only result in loss of value.
Obama is such a progressive, ahead-of-the-curve thinker!
Last night I was fuming over this whole stinking mess. Passed a remark to my 3 and 5 yr olds that people are voting to take away all their future earnings.
I’m proud to say that I’m raising my kids right. This morning the 3 year old asked me: “Why do the poopyheads want my money? Why won’t the government listen to us?”
I wish I could answer her honestly – but she’s too young for all that.
contact the members of the U.S. Senate listed below. They include the ten most conservative Democrats in the Senate, plus the Independent, plus a Hillary Clinton’s replacement who showed signs of conservatism. If you live in the states represented by these Senators, please both email them and telephone them!
HR1 is pending approval in the U.S. Senate and they will have just enough votes once Senator Kennedy returns from Florida. If any one of the people on this list votes against the bill, the American people will have more time to see what is in the $800 ‘stimulus’ bill, and express their opinions to their Senator.
Nelson, Ben, D-Neb. (202) 224-6551 bennelson.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm
Landrieu, Mary, D-La. (202) 224-5824 landrieu.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm
Pryor, Mark, D-Ark. (202) 224-2353 pryor.senate.gov/contact/
McCaskill, Claire, D-Mo. (202) 224-6154 mccaskill.senate.gov/contact/
Baucus, Max, D-Mont. (202) 224-2651 baucus.senate.gov/contact/emailForm.cfm?subj=issue
Conrad, Kent, D-N.D. (202) 224-2043 conrad.senate.gov/contact/webform.cfm
Lieberman, Joe, ID-Conn. (202) 224-4041 lieberman.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm?regarding=issue
Dorgan, Byron, D-N.D. (202) 224-2551 senator@dorgan.senate.gov
Carper, Thomas, D-Del. (202) 224-2441 carper.senate.gov/contact/
Webb, Jim, D-Va. (202) 224-4024 webb.senate.gov/contact/
Tester, Jon, D-Mont. (202) 224-2644 tester.senate.gov/Contact/
Gillibrand, Kirsten, D-NY (202) 224-4451
It could be that these 2-3 were designated to take one for the team, knowing that Obama would end up winning anyway. And this way the holdouts can portray themselves as winners.
I’d like to see what goodies they got.
It’s amusing to see everyone demanding to see the bill which will saddle future generations with a bill of over $1 trillion (that’s $1,000,000,000,000 with 12 zeroes) when we know damn well that our “representatives” don’t give a damn about what the serfs think.
And before you all start on thinking of “throwing the bums out”, how many of you are really going to vote against YOUR representative? It’s not as if everyone here lives in Maine or Pennsylvania and is able to vote against these long-standing RINOs. When everyone hates CONGRESS, but re-elects THEIR GUY, nothing ever changes.
In our bleak future, when politicians say “for the children”, they will be talking about gravy, salt, and other seasonings.
Just kidding, folks. Buck up and never forget; remember how it feels for Democrats to try to change what the idea of America is. Big changes are coming in our future, but only because they will be necessary. They will also be welcomed. This will be what America is supposed to be again one day. I’m sorry that the interim won’t be easy or pretty. Doesn’t change the fact it has to happen.
Me, for one, if they vote for this. And I told them so. Talk is cheap.
Well NO Republican representatives voted for this. So what are you asking?
Sen. McConnell said:
That’s my problem right there. I guess I’m just a stupid rube, but somehow, I don’t think borrowing money to get the economy going is a wise thing at all. I don’t want to see a better stimulus, I don’t want to see any stimulus.
You got it Dave! That’s why any stimulus plan is a bad idea.
Cut taxes, cut corporate taxes, cut individual taxes, cut capital gains taxes, etc., and this economy will roar.
We are so porked!!! Our eleced officials don’t want to listen to us. They didn’t listen when we said not to pass the TARP and they don’t want to listen to us now. They think that we are in need of “parents” and prefer to tell us what they want us to have. These clowns couldn’t think their way out of a paper bag and now they want to spend money that hasn’t been earned yet. Well, how smart is that? We are just one BIG community to be organized. Where is the leadership? Do we all have to quit our jobs to get this congress and administration to listen? See them pay for their programs then!
Remember, “Serving Humans” is the title of a cookbook written by William Ayers and Published by obummer Husein and Company,
I also believe the best course is to leave the economy alone and let it sort out the winners and losers (just like they should leave businesses and banks alone).
That said, I would not be so ridiculously over wrought IF the proposal actually made some sense like with true infrastructure projects that would create jobs for reasonable pay and add value to the USA.
What galls me the most (of the things I’ve heard) is the spending on the Arts programs, Amtrak, ACORN, Home Land Security Furniture, green cars for government employees and dozens of other projects that only build government (and their perks) and add no jobs or value.
I wonder what planet I’m on that has people in government who didn’t do their jobs when it came to overseeing banks, didn’t do their jobs when it came to overseeing Bernard Madoff and didn’t do their jobs in overseeing Henry Paulson – and yet we vote to give them $1 trillion to see what they will do with that.
Any so called Republicans that votes for, negotiates in anyway for this funding of socialism should be expelled from the RNC and now! No money, no support of any kind to these types of fools. That applies also to the rino’s that supported the TARP crapsand also…only 1 way to clean up the party and get it back on it’s feet, cut out the traitors, Mr. Steele…all of them.
America became the powerful and great country it is because of capitalism, not socialism, they cannot forget that.
Exactly how I feel. It’s no longer waiting 4 years until it’s over; it’s knowing the USA is doomed and being unable to get anyone with any power to listen and stop it.
Atlas Shrugged
Now is the time to call the LOCAL offices. You can leave messages here, when the DC lines are stuffed to the gills.
I called every local office of the reps in my state. Sent postcards.
Ask if the reps have read this bill. It takes an entire ream of paper to print it out. Has anyone read it?
The more we fuss, the more it will be delayed and the more dust bunnies will come out from under the couch.
Nag… Nag… Nag…
This travesty has been called Crap Sandwich, Porkulus, etc. Since this bill is primarily a payoff to the special interest groups that have supported the Democrats, I would like to offer yet another name which I believe best descibes its socalist objectives.
The Comprehensive Constituents Compensation Program (CCCP) for short. The bill is best read with The International playing in the background.
If you were born after 1980 this might not register with you.
Conversation with Barack Obama on stimulus bill
B.O.-We must hurry!
Why?
B.O.-There is a crisis!
Why must we hurry?
B.O.-Because of the catastrophe!
What catastrophe?
B.O.-The one we will have if we don’t hurry to spend your kid’s and grand-kids’s money!
Okay Pres, you are the boss now…I guess.
B.O.-That’s right!
How much you need?
B.O.-1.1 $trillion will be a nice start.
But I don’t have that much!
B.O.-That’s okay, just write another check!
What about our tax cuts you promised?
B.O.-Don’t give me crap, I won!
Can we see what is in the bill first?
B.O.-It’s full of all the good stuff Bush wouldn’t do, that’s why I want it!
Is that a no?
B.O.-I already told you,I won!
Flyover Man:
Excellent
You won’t have to quit your job, the way things are going there won’t be any job. Won’t be any tax revenue either, but we will have poverty on a massive scale.
I still think the conservatives need to introduce legislation to suspend all withholding taxes for people earning under $40k a year… for the chilllllren.
Beat the damn collectivists at their own class-warfare game… those poor people need every penny of what they earn! And they need it NOW. Not in the form of a REFUND CHECK from the government!
Don’t they care about the single-mother waitresses in this country?
We gotta help them out now, now, now, now, before they all starve!
Virginia Patriot,
Well, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a……..
Funny how that dissent is only a healthy prescription for a balanced government when a liberal is doing it in some fashion like burning the flag, or calling for the death of the President (Bush) or the Veep (Cheney), turning over vehicles and setting them on fire, throwing bricks thru windows, defacing federal property & military recruiting offices, or burning down entire neighborhoods. Now if we simply disagree with Obama on something like his ‘stimulous’ plan, which could literally destroy our economy in the long term, he considers us to be unpatriotic.
Sigh. The Scarlet letter for liberals (particularly for Obamabots) should be an ‘I’. For ‘Idiots’.
It will never happen. The liberals will just change the definition of poverty.
That’s me. Held onto my Navy Fed membership when I got out of the Corps. Had it for 15 years now. They offer great rates on home loans.
I’ve spent the past four nights trying to gird my loins.
Is there some trick to it? Cause all I’ve managed to do is give myself a wedgie, a hernia, and, in some attempts, a good time.
If they’re going to call for loin girding, the least they can do is tell us HOW.