Porkulus math: A breakdown of Collins/Nelson stimulus changes

By Michelle Malkin  •  February 7, 2009 02:16 PM

We still don’t have the actual, full text of the Collins/Nelson porkulus “compromise” plan, but we do have a financial breakdown of the changes the cave-in Senators have proposed. The Senate Conservatives Fund has posted the math — and remember, this chart does NOT include the money added by the Senate amendments (close to $50 billion in extra spending).

Go here for the PDF.

Bottom line:

Senators Ben Nelson (D-Nebraska) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) have said repeatedly that their goal was to eliminate those parts of the bill that are not stimulative. But this document shows that this spending has not been eliminated, but only reduced. If this spending does not stimulate (and it most certainly does not), then why not eliminate it completely?

And if the goal was to simply lower the price of the plan to protect taxpayers, the Nelson-Collins deal fails in that effort as well. At $827 billion, the compromise will cost $7 billion MORE than the bill passed by Nancy Pelosi in the House.

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  1. #614789
    On February 7th, 2009 at 2:19 pm, desertdweller said:

    What happened to do it “for the children?”

    Come on, GOP — HOLD THE LINE!

  2. #614790
    On February 7th, 2009 at 2:19 pm, right4life said:

    the goal isn’t to help the economy, or the public. this is just a big payoff to the union thugs, acorn, and the other pets of the democRAT party…

    sow the wind, reap the whirlwind…and that will be inflation beyond what we have ever known in this country…the currency will collapse…pop goes the country…it was fun while it lasted…

  3. #614791
    On February 7th, 2009 at 2:22 pm, right4life said:

    I found this very interesting…

    This year, the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association will focus on the return of Jesus Christ and help prepare believers for life in the last days, according to a recent announcement.

    “People ask me, ‘Do you really believe that Jesus Christ is going to come back to this earth again?’” writes the Rev. Billy Graham in one of the several resources that the ministry is providing on the End Times.
    “Yes, I do,” he continues. “The Bible teaches that Jesus is coming again.
    And I don’t see any other hope, because we’re heading toward a catastrophe in our world.”

    LINK

    as far as I am concerned in christianity, there is billy graham..and then there is the rest of us…he’s in another league…

  4. #614793
    On February 7th, 2009 at 2:30 pm, Traditionalist said:

    I get tired of hearing liberals say things like “The pork in the bill is only like 2%, so why hold it up for that?”.

    My question is, how much is too much for these liberals? What is the threshold percentage-wise that they will allow? 5%? 10%? 50%? Or does it depend on which party is in charge?

    2% this year, if we let the government get away with it, will turn into 3% next year, and 5% the year after that, and etc etc until/unless the American people say enough is enough.

    0.000000000000000001% of pork is simply way too much.

    Why not just write a check for $2,722 for every single citizen in this country. It would cost the same and stimulate the whole thing…..

  5. #614801
    On February 7th, 2009 at 2:45 pm, tonyr951 said:

    Neighborhood Stabilization Program……………………………………… $4,190,000,000

    What is that, hiring contractors to keep homes from falling over?

  6. #614802
    On February 7th, 2009 at 2:53 pm, wrcnossen said:

    Of all the things in this POS, it’s the new programs that bother me the most. They will be in next year’s budget, and the next, and the next…

  7. #614807
    On February 7th, 2009 at 3:10 pm, reshas1 said:

    contact the members of the U.S. Senate listed below. They include the ten most conservative Democrats in the Senate, plus the Independent, plus a Hillary Clinton’s replacement who showed signs of conservatism. If you live in the states represented by these Senators, please both email them and telephone them!

    HR1 is pending approval in the U.S. Senate and they will have just enough votes once Senator Kennedy returns from Florida. If any one of the people on this list votes against the bill, the American people will have more time to see what is in the $800 ’stimulus’ bill, and express their opinions to their Senator.

    Nelson, Ben, D-Neb. (202) 224-6551 bennelson.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm
    Landrieu, Mary, D-La. (202) 224-5824 landrieu.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm
    Pryor, Mark, D-Ark. (202) 224-2353 pryor.senate.gov/contact/
    McCaskill, Claire, D-Mo. (202) 224-6154 mccaskill.senate.gov/contact/
    Baucus, Max, D-Mont. (202) 224-2651 baucus.senate.gov/contact/emailForm.cfm?subj=issue
    Conrad, Kent, D-N.D. (202) 224-2043 conrad.senate.gov/contact/webform.cfm
    Lieberman, Joe, ID-Conn. (202) 224-4041 lieberman.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm?regarding=issue
    Dorgan, Byron, D-N.D. (202) 224-2551 senator@dorgan.senate.gov
    Carper, Thomas, D-Del. (202) 224-2441 carper.senate.gov/contact/
    Webb, Jim, D-Va. (202) 224-4024 webb.senate.gov/contact/
    Tester, Jon, D-Mont. (202) 224-2644 tester.senate.gov/Contact/
    Gillibrand, Kirsten, D-NY (202) 224-4451

  8. #614814
    On February 7th, 2009 at 3:24 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    Maybe we disgruntled slaves can glob on to this movement: http://www.milliongunownermarch.com/

  9. #614817
    On February 7th, 2009 at 3:27 pm, swede said:

    Like HR1, when you skim through the SCF doc linked above, you keep asking how does this stimulate anything or create jobs? Answer: Don’t ask silly questions…it will create 3-4M new jobs. The One says so.

    If the senators are taking Sunday off, how can they assimilate this monster mess before voting Monday?

    Keep up the calls and emails to the senate. Its still close.

    Let’s see the bill. Show us da money!

  10. #614821
    On February 7th, 2009 at 3:33 pm, txvet2 said:

    On February 7th, 2009 at 3:27 pm, swede said:

    Like HR1, when you skim through the SCF doc linked above, you keep asking how does this stimulate anything or create jobs? Answer: Don’t ask silly questions…it will create 3-4M new jobs. The One says so.

    Actually, he later said “create or save” – an interesting backdown, considering that there is absolutely no way in the world of knowing how many jobs are actually “saved”, so no matter what happens over the next few years, he can claim he “saved” jobs.

  11. #614826
    On February 7th, 2009 at 3:36 pm, txvet2 said:

    Senators Ben Nelson (D-Nebraska) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) have said repeatedly that their goal was to eliminate those parts of the bill that are not stimulative.

    Actually, the motivation for Collins, Snowe and Specter was only to make enough minor changes to give them protective cover so they could vote their natural inclinations – with their liberal colleagues.

  12. #614849
    On February 7th, 2009 at 4:10 pm, swede said:

    If anyone is interested, McMaverick has a petition you can sign at

    http://www.countryfirstpac.com/petition/economic.aspx

    The Senate recently began debate on an economic stimulus package that is intended to get our economy get back on track and help Americans who are suffering through these difficult times. Unfortunately, the proposal on the table is big on the giveaways for the special interests and corporate high rollers, yet short on help for ordinary working Americans.

    I cannot and do not support the package on the table from the Democrats and the Obama Administration. Our country does not need just another spending bill, particularly not one that will load future generations with the burden of massive debt. We need a short term stimulus bill that will directly help people, create jobs, and provide a jolt to our economy.

    Please join me in saying no to this stimulus package as it currently exists by signing the petition to the right and telling your friends about our efforts.

    John McCain
    Chair, Country First PAC

  13. #614862
    On February 7th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, rightisright said:

    I cannot and do not support…

    … anything Juan McShame supports, he’s a limp wristed, left winger hiding in elephants coverings and has been doing doing so for over 25 years in his comfy government job. He’s another that forgets he works for us not the other way around.
    And don’t bother reminding me how he was an American hero. It’s said people change with time and he is no exception…the end of that story.

  14. #614864
    On February 7th, 2009 at 4:40 pm, WaterBoyz said:

    reshas1 said: #7

    Yep, emailed them all and nothing has bounced back … yet.
    ‘cept for Gillibrand

    Some of them had posted messages on their sites that gave their position on HR1. Hole EE crap. Some of that are really stupid or blind or sucking-up or all 3.

  15. #614868
    On February 7th, 2009 at 4:43 pm, zorro said:

    Our legislators are just a bunch of pigs gorging themselves on the teats of the US Treasury insuring their own re-election at the expense of our children and security.

  16. #614870
    On February 7th, 2009 at 4:45 pm, zorro said:

    If anyone is interested, McMaverick has a petition…

    To hell with McCain.

  17. #614873
    On February 7th, 2009 at 4:46 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On February 7th, 2009 at 4:10 pm, swede said:

    If anyone is interested, McMaverick has a petition you can sign at

    http://www.countryfirstpac.com/petition/economic.aspx

    Somehow I bet Juan is just using this as a way to collect information for a fund raising campaign for his PAC.

    Soon as the personal information is collected, the petition goes in the trash.

  18. #614878
    On February 7th, 2009 at 4:46 pm, Republicanvet said:

    Meant to add in #17:

    Then you get calls for the next 9 months begging for money.

  19. #614890
    On February 7th, 2009 at 5:05 pm, FamilyMan said:

    AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I’M SPEECHLESS!!!!!!!
    GEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!

  20. #614963
    On February 7th, 2009 at 7:56 pm, guspapa said:

    I spent 4 months negotiating to purchase an automobile, it took that long for me to reach a “deal” that made sense to my purchasing sensitivities. I saved $4,700.00 of MY money. Why are these irresponsible clowns so inclined to commit My money to worthless financial issues? and spend a week or two at the most to ensure that we are getting a deal on an unidentified “crisis spending issue”. Time for some change, hopey change, get rid of all these idiots and require them to recite the preamble, the constitution and Bill of Rights 100 times from memory as a requirement of the swearing in process.

  21. #615322
    On February 8th, 2009 at 3:05 pm, dadinseattle said:

    We need to unite as conservatives for America.

    They wont listen, so we have to fight to take our country back!

    Here is a place to go to find out how!

  22. #615349
    On February 8th, 2009 at 4:07 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “…we have to fight to take our country back!”

    I’m afraid that just might be the case. Scared. Not wanting it to get there. Thinking it may get there anyway. Especially if Mexico takes a dive and we get hordes of refugees storming across non-existent borders.

  23. #615409
    On February 8th, 2009 at 6:01 pm, WaterBoyz said:

    But when three Republicans crossed the aisle over the weekend to say they will support a compromise economic recovery plan opposed by every other Senate minority Republican, Americans United for Change bought up radio time urging voters to call and thank Sens. Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins and Arlen Specter for “providing the leadership we need to get the job done.”

    gag me

    Just gag me :(

  24. #615441
    On February 8th, 2009 at 7:44 pm, Marie said:

    I Think Obama is killing the goose that laid the golden egg…

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