http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

…yaaaawwwn. I am done here.

I’d wager a guess that you have convinced no one here of the merits of your position.

On February 10th, 2009 at 1:52 am, PhredE said: at 137

His name is Krikorian

Typo…but point taken.

Oh, for your benefit, the “other” part of the stimulus package that you haven’t mentioned (at least since I last checked in here… )

Really…Check my post at 63 in the same thread. Basics, han…?

“On February 10th, 2009 at 9:43 am, Weary Citizen said:

PhredE, as usual, good post.”

Thanks, much appreciated. Back at ya.

flenser, I admire your passion, but it could be toned down a tad. But, don’t lose that passion.

At first, I thought I might agree with some of brads points. However, when he started using SPLC as a reference then called NumbersUSA a liar and other adhominem attacks (including the tried and true liberal ploy of “raaaacists”) with NOTHING to back it up but SPLC says so, he lost me. He obviously hates and wants to discredit NumbersUSA to advacne his own agenda. Sorry brad, but you have failed to provide ANY evidence of what you say. And saying, “not true” or “lie” with no factual proof is your own interpretation. Common sense and anecdotal evidence proves that mass immigration policies (specifically kennedy’s 1964 immigration act) has deteriorated the quality of life in the US, not improved. Look at the crime statistics of 1960’s to today. Look at the 10 most wanted lists in just about any major city in the Southwest and you wil notice a pattern (hint, illegals and hispanics dominate even though they are not an absolute majority). Crowded schools and highways. Choking pollution. Gang activity increases. No go areas for whites in all major cities. The list goes on. Having grown up in the 1960’s-70’s in Texas, I have witnessed the congeniality, friendliness, and trust among citizens deteriorate. We never locked up our car or house back then. Don’t try it now. And these problems wil increase with more 3rd wolrd immigration. Anyway, it is all I have to say on the subject. I just hope your optimism is correct because I see no good ending to the country from mass immigraiton policies.

The topic of LEGAL immigration is not completely separate and distinct from the subject of ILLEGAL immigration.

Presently, approx. 40% of all persons in the US illegally entered initially under some form of legit visa: tourist, student, and temporary/guest worker.
Many people get here, and simply don’t go home when they are supposed to.

*IF*, and *WHEN* we identify and remove all those persons, then we can sit down and have a reasonable conversation about how many and which legal immigrants should be allowed in.

“Again, I don’t discredit Kerkorian just because SPLC says so!”

His name is Krikorian – if you can’t get something so basic as this correct, why should we believe anything you say about your beliefs about something as complex as a policy about the economy and legal immigration. Kerkorian is a big-wig investor dude.

Oh, for your benefit, the “other” part of the stimulus package that you haven’t mentioned (at least since I last checked in here… ) is that the Grassley-Sanders Amendment to limit the provision of Stimulus funds/jobs to H-1b holders passed (is part of the overall bill)

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/february-6-2009/senate-passes-grassleysanders-amendment-protect-american-workers.html

“The Senate adopted by voice vote an amendment to the economic stimulus bill sponsored by Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT). The amendment prevents businesses who receive stimulus funds from hiring foreign H-1B workers for one year”.

Having some experience and knowledge in an area similar to yours, I’ll add that I simply and wholeheartedly disagree with you. The need for “skilled” foreign workers, while it exists for narrow and specific areas, is mostly exaggerated in the name of greed and greater profit margins. The program was never supposed to be a de facto means to discriminate against Americans – which, such labor importation programs often do. There is no “right” for an employer to have cheap imported labor. Nowhere in the Constitution or other body of law is such a right identified.

H-1b program is a sham – some evidence:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

Also try to calmly & cohesively put all your thoughts into one post

Try to extract your head from whatever dark hole it’s stuck in and explain why you think that Tanton is an ex-klansman.

I just see you reply twice or thrice to each one of my post

You may not be able to think, or write in English, but you can do simple aritmitic. Your boss must be very pleased with you. Is he Indian too?

On February 9th, 2009 at 6:51 pm, flenser said: at 134

Boy…you have the superiority complex of say Dick Cheney or so…but reasoning and maturity of a small kid. Add the shallow knowledge on things to that…

Also try to calmly & cohesively put all your thoughts into one post…I just see you reply twice or thrice to each one of my post. Grow up, kid…

learn how to control your dirty tongue.

Definitely Indian, either Hindu or Muslim.

This is why I don’t respond to you

Funny, it looks like you’re at least pretending to respond to me now.

You are just a foul mouthed libtard

Well, I may be foul mouthed, but you seem as ignorant as to the meaning of “libtard” as to everything else.

Here is a hint. You and your buddies at the SPLC are libtards. Your term for us is “wingnuts”. Try to remember.

Did I say I was not white or brown or black?…

Did I say you did?

and why are so happy wrongly convincing yourself that I am not white

If you are a native American white than I’m a Martian. English is not your native tongue. The only other possibility is you may be a black American, some of whom are a bit challenged in the English-speaking department.

But I’ll still go with you being Indian or Asian.

Don’t expect any answer until you first read the SPLC link & numbersusa link

Nowhere in the SPLC link does it say that Tanton is an ex-klansman. I’ve told you this many times already. Maybe back in India you don’t have this concept of “fact”. But if you’re gonna live in our country you’d better pick it up fast.

Again we (not me) in the company do hire high tech legal immigrants and so I know this.

You change your story more often than your underwear, braddy.

First you made out that you were actively involved in the whole process if hiring tech workers. Then you downgraded that. Now you say that you have no involvement with the hiring process at all.

I’ll say it again, braddy. If you’re an example of a legal immigrant in the tech field then we need to deport you all ASAP. You possess all the IQ of my mouse pad.

A blatant lie by numberssa in the link.

What is it about your unbroken string of lies that makes me doubt your word here?

Go peddle your anti-white bs to your (non-white) friends.

I knew it. You’re not white, are you you braddy?

It’s ok if you don’t respond. Everyone reading can draw their own conclusions from what you say, and what questions you refuse to answer.

This is why I don’t respond to you…You are just a foul mouthed libtard.

Did I say I was not white or brown or black?…and why are so happy wrongly convincing yourself that I am not white? Don’t expect any answer until you first read the SPLC link & numbersusa link (which will asnswer some of your questions) and learn how to control your dirty tongue.

BTW another lie from numbes usa in the link – “A summary is that of the three main employment-based (EB) categories, the two that are designated for “the best and the brightest” do not have long waits; “…

Check out the numbers for second category in the state department website ( research and figure out, else you will never learn the truth) and you can see the wait there…A blatant lie by numberssa in the link. Also third category is not ordinary or low skilled… thats fourth and fifth category. Again we (not me) in the company do hire high tech legal immigrants and so I know this.

that doesn’t mean we should support NumbersUsa’s lies on blocking bill for legal employment based immigration.

As has already been made clear, the only person lying about that bill is you.

If all immigrants are as stupid and dishonest as you then God help America.