A Henrietta Hughes flashback
Before making a nationwide media splash with her savior President Barack Obama at the Ft. Myers revival rally, Henrietta Hughes had garnered public attention before. In 2004, she was living with her unemployed son in Rochester, NY. Good-hearted private citizens offered them help then, too, to supplement the government checks (reprinted with permission from the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle and Cynthia Benjamin, social networking editor):
Rochester Democrat and Chronicle (NY) – Wednesday, June 16, 2004
Author: DC, Cynthia Benjamin, Staff
Doctors and other medical staff volunteer time to treat patients
BY STAFF WRITER
CYNTHIA BENJAMINCorey Hughes ‘ thyroid gland was bothering him – again. He needed medical attention, but had no money to get it. Hughes , 33, a computer programmer who lives in Rochester, has no steady job, no health insurance, no doctor.
So, when Dr. Carolyn Mok examined him June 2 at Mercy Outreach Center on Webster Avenue, not only did Hughes get necessary treatment for his thyroid condition, he also took comfort in something else: the service was free.
Mok, 51, a medical doctor who has a practice at 175 Lyell Ave., is among hundreds of medical professionals in Monroe County – no exact number is available – who give their expertise, pro bono, to people such as Hughes – people whom physicians commonly call the underserved, the working poor, the uninsured.
In all, medical professionals – physicians, dentists, radiologists, nurses and others – devote thousands of volunteer hours each year, treating people in need, charging nothing because the patients have little or nothing to pay.
In their volunteer work, medical professionals treat everything from toothaches to heart disease.
Some volunteer on the staffs at places that serve people in need, such as St. Joseph’s Neighborhood Center, 417 South Ave., run by Sister Christine Wagner of the Sisters of St. Joseph.Others see patients in their offices at no cost or at a reduced fee.
Art Streeter of the Finger Lakes Health Systems Agency says about one in 10 people in Monroe County does not have medical insurance, so volunteer medical professionals are vital.
“Most of the physicians look at this (volunteering) as part of what being a physician is,’’ says Nancy Adams, executive director of the Monroe County Medical Society, a group of more than 1,700 doctors from Monroe and six other counties.
“In the old days, it was just common practice (for physicians) to give back. That philosophy didn’t just go away because there are programs available to patients,’’ such as Medicaid and Family Health Plus insurance plans, Adams said.
Making ends meet
Hughes , who has not had a steady job for two years, recently took on temporary work for Superior Staffing Services, 26 Corporate Woods.
It’s tough, says the Monroe Community College graduate.
“I can’t even get a job at Wendy’s (after applying more than once),’’ he says, but “I feel good. I’m thankful to God.’’
Though Hughes wouldn’t reveal his salary, he says he doesn’t earn enough money in his temporary job to pay a doctor.
He helps take care of his mother, a breast cancer survivor who says even with Medicaid, she hasn’t seen a doctor in more than a year because she can’t afford to pay any percentage not covered by her insurance plan. Having Medicaid disqualifies her from pro bono services.
Yet she was thankful that Mok examined her son, who otherwise would not have received treatment.
“There isn’t many doctors that will see you if you don’t have insurance,’’ says Henrietta Hughes , 56. “There’s doctors, just out of the compassion and goodness of his heart, that will give his service or her service, and I’m very grateful to God.’’CORRECTION Rochester Democrat and Chronicle (NY) – Wednesday, June 16, 2004 Author: DC, Cynthia Benjamin, Staff
Henrietta Hughes , 56, of Rochester has Medicare insurance. A story on Page 1F in the Our Towns section Wednesday described her health coverage inaccurately.
Since one of our commenters doesn’t understand the point of publishing this information, here’s the point:
The White House and the press are holding up this woman and her son as symbols of how the economic downturn has rendered people homeless and jobless.
Mrs. Hughes and her son have been jobless and receiving government assistance since at least 2004.
***
Yes, there is now a Henrietta Hughes website.
Via Dan Riehl, some more information:
Corey Hughes, who left his job in New York in early 2008, said he had been trying to take care of his mom. Both have searched for jobs and have come up empty, as have so many other Southwest Floridians. Henrietta said the family came here due to the expensive living costs in New York.
“So, I borrowed quite a bit of money to come down to Florida,” she explained.
And more: How many homes?
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chapoutier,
I came from a home of five brothers and one sister. Us boys lived in one bedroom. We grew up poor. But we did NOT grow up dependent on Democrats like you, Obama, Ms Hughes and her cry baby son. We didn’t borrow money to move to a warm sunny state for no reason. We worked where we found work in our home state. Each of us became successful in our careers because we… 1. Worked for Perfection 2. Never complained 3. Never begged like a loser to the Feds or State.
Public housing is for loser Liberals. I will rub it in your face and their face every day of my life. No apologies. Get off your ass and work. Every time I check out their background, they turn out to be pathetic liars mooching off my tax dollars.
The whole point of Obama’s Press conference is POLITICAL, you ignorant idiot. Those lazy people were placed in the crowd for a reason. To cry, to lie and ask the government to get them by. Give me evidence to the contrary.
Again, idle speculation formed to serve your narrative.
chappy….another libtard apologist
Hoo boy, don’t know when this became personal, but do not assume you know a damn thing about me, fella.
Do you really want to trade stories about who had the hardest knocks in life but were able to gosh darned it pull themselves up from their boot straps and make something of themselves? Really?
After that we can grab granite and trade SAT scores. Or maybe skip right to getting drunk and comparing shark scars.
Its usually good form for the person actually speculating and pulling stuff out of their butt to provide some sort of evidence, not to ask the other to.
Mookie – So, you’re saying there is something wrong with accepting help from people who freely choose to help?
And since your moral equivalence guage seems permanently broken, it’s also a huge difference between that and demanding FORCED help from TAXPAYERS.
Conservatives believe in private charity in lieu of massive government bureaucracies, Mooks.
In this case, the recipient no doubt sees this as just another in a long line “handouts”, no matter if the giver intends it as a temporary helping hand.
Unfortunately with people such as Hughes it’s like the old story of the waitress who’s just happens to add extra ice cream on a customer’s pie for free three days in a row. On the fourth day, she doesn’t add the extra ice cream and the customer complains about it instead of being thankful for the three days he got the freebies.
Gee Chappy!
After reading all of your post , it reminds of a cross examination in a trial.
Can’t you just say they’re poor people who are a victim of their environment and we shouldn’t judge them so quickly?
rooster…another inane post.
The Mook, Chap and soc are only here to divert threads. Chap at least makes reasonable arguments (sometimes). I support their right to their own opinions. But each of them seem to think people are entitled to the basic necessities of life.(This is based on past posts but I may be mistaken).
I don’t know these people, their true story or the circumstances of how they became the poster children for the ultimate losers. Son could not get or keep a job during the lowest unemployment rated years. Originally from NYC but just happen to have moved to the exact location of the Obama rally and were selected at random to sit center stage and perform Kabuki theater for the cause. They only seem to find motivation to seek handouts, not jobs. It just does not pass the smell test to me. But the above mentioned contributors do not know any more than I do about their circumstances. They take an opposite position out of reflex.
I don’t care a flip about their current scam d’jour. I don’t have to, I am not responsible for them. None of us are, not even the President. The fact that the President wants to force us to be responsible for them is the problem.
It does no good to argue with some people. They simply can not see what they disagree with. Just because a dog can’t see a rainbow doesn’t mean it isn’t there.
No, because I have no idea. My only point is that neither do any of you.
Chappy, are you really that inexperienced with human nature? If so, the Fuller Brush men, the swampland and public-bridge sellers must be lined up at your door and wind around the block a dozen times!
Not sure how this fit into the context of what you wrote, but I like it.
Why didn’t he publicly request that the media stop tearing into JTP? Are you saying he was ignorant of what was going on? That seems to be a theme with hussein, doesn’t it?
*The White House and the press are going to have a snootful of people as symbols like this “Sanford and Son” duo
if they keep buzzsawing through the free market with all their intervention.
*Statistics reveal that the black folks now outnumber the white folks on welfare across the country; LBJ and the Great Society has done a bang up job.
Chap said:
Oh brother… you seem to be majoring in obtuse tonight.
Not at all. So what’s wrong with Henrietta accepting help from someone who freely chose to do so?
I think everything you need to know in instances like this, SpeakEZ, is that she didn’t say “I’m looking for a job so I can earn the things I want”.
If I were flat broke and just blew into town, I’d head for a church – if nowhere else – to start inquiring there as to where I could find work.
Divert threads? How is what we are discussing not exactly on topic?
Believe me, I can divert threads. Oh yes…I can divert threads. This is not one of those times.
Mookie – Nice try… Once again, and I’ll try to type more slowly so you can follow.
Joe didn’t beg or ask for anyone’s help. People heard of his situation and VOLUNTEERED. Henrietta very publically demanded government help (taxpayers = forced). The fact that she then received help from a nice Republican is beside the point. The difference is Henrietta EXPECTED help to be FORCED from others, and Joe never even asked, he simply accepted when offered VOLUNTARILY.
Join Chap in the Purposely Obtuse room.
I’d head for the local dive bar/honkey tonk and try to find work as a bouncer.
Purplepeep said:
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!!
On February 11th, 2009 at 11:18 pm, chapoutier said:
Well, I’ve slogged through all the posts back and forth.
Chappy, Bluesoc, I think you’re missing the point – it’s not really about this woman per se, but on how politicians use her.
And yes, I mean use in the most manipulative manner.
Corruptocrats use these stories to engender guilt, sympathy, horror, etc. in the public.
Then, when the public is sufficiently softened by the story, the corruptocrats can take money from taxpayers in order to “rescue” people.
Taking, of course, a piece of the pie on its way to the “rescued.”
Halliburton and other companies with Katrina, for instance. Or the government Labor Unions on the Democrat side (who are getting a huge bonanza with the bailout).
It’s not really about this woman.
Its warm and padded and there are juice boxes and cookies.
So in other words Joy, JtP starts at A and Henrietta starts at B. They both end up at C, C actually involving a situation in which there was no government assistance. Shouldn’t that really be the end of the story?
Well, one man’s honky tonk (no “e”, ask Hank Williams) is another man’s church.
Although you probably would find mostly honkeys in a honky tonk. But I digress…
That makes as much sense as saying she’s unemployed because some article didn’t mention her occupation, which by the way would have been an absolutely superfluous piece of information in the context of the article.
“Demanded” and “expected” are matters of your opinion.
DON”T DIVERT THE THREAD!!!!
I said it last night we would know about this in 72 hours and i would bet she was a entiltment junkie. MM is good.
Wonder what bluesoc has to say now ??
If you read the article Michelle posted in the update, you’ll see that she applied for numerous jobs.
Three posts (including a syndicated article by our host) lead me to believe it may be a teensy weensy bit about this woman.
The WH will get real quiet with the 2 or 3 or 4 report on these Professional leeches.
On February 11th, 2009 at 11:38 pm, chapoutier said:
Come on. Put down the collectivist faux-righteousness and think.
It’s not about this woman.
There have been plenty of people like this woman over the years — trotted out at election times and mentioned in a speech at the democratic convention, usually — to cause guilt and shame, to persuade people to vote away their freedoms to “rescue” people.
Are you avoiding this point because you want to shame people into giving up their “freedoms” in order to “resuce” those in predicaments?
chap,
Most of us are sick of demovermin of your ilk who suck the life out of our American blood with your liberal illnesses.
Get over yourself! Most of us wouldn’t trade jack-crap stories with nutjobs like you.
Chap,
Thanks but I shamelessly lifted it from the movie “Kate and Leopold.”
Huh? What point? Getting past your hyperbole, your point is that politicians exploit people to make their points? Wow. I am sure you don’t think it is only Dems that do this.
The White House took a direct interest with a follow up:
From CNN:
From MSNBC:
From henriettahughes.com:
Time to hit the sack.
Nope, Chappy. I’m saying it speaks to her mindset. The process of her A to Z thinking. There’s no “A”, just “Z”.
Some people ask for the fish, others ask to borrow a fishing pole.
Didn’t divert, I digressed.
At least that post had some colorful language to mask its inanity, rooster. Good job. And I do not recall ever being called, or hearing the term for that matter “demovermin.” I kinda like it. But its still not as good as atheling calling me a Pharisee or “scribe.”
On February 11th, 2009 at 11:43 pm, chapoutier said:
Now you’re being not only stupid and obtuse, but a jerk. I’ll let someone else take the baton and feed you tonight.
It was dangerously close to a diversion. I was about to make a mention to one of the greatest films ever , Road House, before I stopped myself. But I digre–
DAMN IT!!!
One last biscuit for the troll…
On February 11th, 2009 at 11:43 pm, chapoutier said:
No, my point is that collectivists use people in distress to get the electorate to vote away their freedom.
Was that simple enough for you?
No no. Please explain your point, then, if I have so wildly misinterpreted. And how was I a jerk? I thought how you framed it was absurdly exaggerated, that is all. I certainly did not go so far as to call you somehting like “demovermin.” Now THAT is jerky.
I think it’s fair to say Democrats tend to exploit people like this – i.e. bring out the losers to show how terrible America is. Conversely, Republicans tend to use citizens to illustrate just the opposite, e.g. “a thousand points of light”.
So, the GOP highlights dedicated average folks who help out the loser-types that the Dems drag out. Mighty symbiotic, eh what?
See above. And good night.
Okay…what freedoms have you lost? And don’t you sound just like those people that objected to the Patriot Act on the basis that Bush was using a crisis to take away people’s freedoms?
WTF?……I mean, please do explain.
Nice attempt at diversion.
NO Chap, is shouldn’t be. I don’t know how people like you make it through life not knowing the difference between being FORCED to help people through TAXATION and true CHARITY that is done VOLUNTARILY.
Actually, I expect you do know the difference, but you’re too invested in playing dumb, as admitting the difference wouldn’t help your cause and would show how ridiculous you’re being tonight.
These tactics may work in the courtroom, but not here.
Chappy said ;”If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?” ETC ETC ETC!!!
That is one way to put it. Another is that they try to put a human face on real problems. You are the one calling them a loser, not the Dems. You don’t think that America is perfect and all its citizens live in blessed prosperity, do you?
FlimLadd: I really was hoping for an explanation. But you can’t keep an Ann Coulter blow up doll waiting.
The ability to keep what I earn from my own labors and decide for myself how to spend my own money. Which strikes at the very heart of freedom.
There is a huge difference. But both are necessary. How is that? But I am still waiting for you to show me the difference between where we ended up with Hughes and where we ended up with JtP. The result is what counts, right?
So you object to any taxation?
Hey. McDonald’s is hiring.
GET A JOB.
And for the record, I am not a trial attorney. Nor are the majority of attorneys.
From 9:23 until 11:35 Mookie and Chap have defended this welfare momma even though anyone with any brains sees that the whole thing was staged.If she told them herself that it was a setup they would continue to argue with anyone who said different.There is always an excuse or alibi of some sort in liberal thinking and these two just proved it.Again.
When exactly did you lose that right?
That is not a Constitutional guarantee. We all have the right to LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT of happiness, not the guarantee of happiness. No one is guaranteed a free ride at other’s expense.
And again another nice attempt at deflection trying to paint conservatives as the meanies and leftists as the oh-so-loving crowd. When it’s the conservatives who try to help people stand on their own and the leftists who use them just to keep power. And your charity comes from other people’s pocketbooks. Ours comes from our own.
I guess I need to again remind you that as a group conservatives give far more to charities than leftists do.
Actually, I think Mrs. Hughes or her son have an opportunity to perhaps find work. Based on the plan Tim Geithner issued yesterday one could easily make the case that Mrs. Hughes or her son Corey are as qualified as Geithner in coming up with a plan to turn the banking industry around.
He issues another puff of smoke like he did yesterday and he’ll be sitting next to Julio trying to get a job as a DJ.
Only a leftist thinks the ENDS justify the MEANS.
Lucky you’re not a trial lawyer, because you’re terrible at it. lol
Not entirely true. I have also drank a lot.
If she said that, it would mean you guessed right. It does not mean you were right to guess and assume it as fact. Is that too subtle a distinction for you?
The more I’m taxed to pay for social programs, instead of being able to choose what charity I want to do, I lose my freedom.
Chap – I have no problem being taxed for the things the CONSTITUTION allows for, which are quite limited. The government has no right to STEAL from me to give it to someone else who did not earn it.
The day you’re willing to give away your law degree to someone less fortunate I’ll believe you walk your talk.
It’s a “rose by an other name” deal, Chap.
What I’ve pointed out is that where Democrats offer real/perceived problems, the Republicans offer the solutions. It all depends on how one approaches life – as the saying goes, as “part of the solution” or “part of the problem”.
I picked a bad day to quit drinking wood alcohol.
Chappy said:
The young man was overheard conversing with a fellow on the school playground, saying that there’s a boy in his home who thinks he’s a dog, and what’s more, everyone else thinks he’s a dog too. “Why don’t you take him to a psychiatrist?” asks his playmate. “Well”, he responds, “we would, but we need someone to fetch our sticks.”
Third glass of Cognac.
Oh a good example will be when Universal Health Care is implemented and I want to pay money out of pocket to secure and pay for a doctor’s care for my mother and it will not happen, because the government’s plan makes it illegal for the doctor to deviate from their plan or compensation limits.
Both the doctor and I could be prosecuted. The state controls the doctors business and I am prevented in prolonging and improving the quality of my mother’s life (pursuit of happiness).
That was a cornerstone of Hillary care and is a conerstone of the European and Canadian health systems.
Interesting – from another article:
“Henrietta does have family living in Fort Myers. We asked why she doesn’t stay with them. She said she didn’t want to discuss it.”
Nope. It’s just “gimme the freebies, Mr. Prez”.
Henrietta Hughes: “face of the economic crisis”
Illustrating even further Michelle’s point:
“The national news media is calling a Fort Myers woman “the face of the economic crisis.”
Hey. Guess what? Those aren’t constitutional guarantees either, seeing as that is the Declaration of Independence you are citing.
Now where did I come close to saying that? I am just pointing out that there are problems in the US and Democrats (as all politicians) use personal stories to paint a bigger narrative.
No need. I have acknowledged that as fact before. Private charity is great, but it does not get you the entire way does it? If you are willing to give to charity, you must concede that there are people in need, right? Certainly you wouldn’t give to a charity that helped people merely in want, would you? And if you concede that there is NEED, and concede that private charities are under no obligation to help everyone or anyone, then you would certainly concede that this probably leads to a gap in meeting needs, right?
And I worked on my taxes, had two cups of coffee, did a load of laundry and played Mafia Wars.
Just read that article Peep posted. A mastectomy at any age is a nightmare but 28? Yikes.
Well, I’ll hold my opinion until I know more facts. But I am wondering why her son could not keep a job if he is a computer programmer. Something does not sound right about that.
You could not be more wrong.
The purpose of the Constituion to provide a framework to ensure there is a system of government that protects the freedoms proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence. Please note in the first seven words who is implementing this framework. It is not The One or the Congress.
This can clearly be seen in the Preamble. “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posteritydo ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
Deflect deflect deflect…
Bah.
Teaching people it is the government’s responsibility to take care of them instead of their own responsibility is wrong!
I, and I alone, have the right to spend my money where I see fit. The government has no right to STEAL from me. How dare they decide that someone else deserves my hard earned money more than me or my family. The government is also STEALING to pay for their ‘pork’ and for abortions and a myriad of other things I object to.
That’s not what the Founding Father’s intended. And at some point soon, we the people are going to have to take our country and freedoms back by force.
Have a good night Chap and Mookie. And for those of you who get it, have a wonderful night. lol
I know you think you’re being clever, but YOU need to point to where it says in the Constitution where it says private persons have an obligation to meet the needs of others. No bullshit about the “General Welfare” clause, because anyone with the slightest understanding of the thinking of the founders knows that they did not countenance a federal government that could compel citizens of state A to pay for the “welfare” of citizens in state B.
Well said Mr Daschle!
Really? I thought it was to provide a stronger central government in the wake of many of the inherent weaknesses of the Articles of Confederation. Let’s not get too misty-eyed and sentimental over our Constitution. If anything, its the Bill of Rights, which of course came after that nice preamble you cite was written, that fulfilled the true spirit of the Declaration.
You too, Joy.
So you voted for Ron Paul, right? Cause he’s the only politician out there who even approaches a strict interpretation of the powers of the federal government.
Or let me put it another way…if it was your state government taxing you instead of the federal, would you object? You can assume that the relevant state constitution has expansive language.
Charity:etymology:Middle English charite, from Anglo-French charité, from Late Latin caritat-, caritas Christian love
I think I see why liberals object to this. We can’t have that now can we? Not even if it might help someone.
Joy, the problem with your definition, and believe me when I say I understand the sentiment, is WE THE PEOPLE elect those who take our personal wealth for public use (what you call stealing). If we want to stop it we have to start there. Educate against Socialism. Oppose all who wish to expand it. Make some time and get involved. Or else wait for the axe to fall.
Well, I can see why they have financial difficulties. They are as dumb as bricks. A guy who’s had difficulties getting/keeping a steady job in the past decides to LEAVE his job, borrow money, and move to a place with a tanking economy.
Personally, I can understand wanting to live in a place with a lower cost of living. When you live in a pricey area and don’t make much, you feel like you’re barely treading water. I’ve moved a few times myself in the hopes of bettering myself/my family — after I’d done a little research and had a job lined up.
Bad boy
Bad Chappy!!!!!
Fixed it for you
Being a business owner if a woman came to me an applied and told me her lies i would employ her. but i bet she applied but had no intention of working. I have seen it all to often. they work for 1 week and start laying out or being late. Then when you have to fire them they want to scream racist and want unemployment.
“rights were endowed by the creator” is the true spirit.
It makes sense to talk about God creating people and telling people that there are some things you can’t do to them, hence granting them rights, while I have trouble seeing the evolutionary process granting those same rights.
Deadbeat.
The divine rights of kings was an assertion of power over the right of others.
Our Constitution was an assertion of divine rights over the king.
I wrote that 50 years ago in eight grade.
It still works for me.
I wish someone would lend me quite a bit of money so i can move to Florida. Anybody? Barack?
Speculation not required, kid said it, he’s not working.
Millions that don’t speak the language cross deserts to get here and manager to find jobs.
What’s been his excuse for at least the past 4 years?
I do! Because I AM THE MAN….. or rather I used to be, but I may still be, but who knows, no one has called me that lately… hmmmm. I just want to be needed ::sniff::
UMMMMM WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isnt that age discrimination??? Chap! Does she have a case???
We do, indeed!
Reminds me of the picture of Stalin, patting the small girl with flowers and smiling at her presentation to him. Of course, we found out later that he had her parents shot.
I live in Florida and its one of the more expensive states out of the 57(j/k) to live in. If I was going to move to another state to save money it wouldn’t be Florida.
“The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States”
- Article I Section 8
“The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived”
- 16th Amendment
Yes blue, the 16th Amendment is the problem.
It’s not that expensive when the rent is paid by someone else.
On February 12th, 2009 at 12:22 am, chapoutier said:
“To each according to his need” – Karl Marx.
I wake up to find you haven’t gotten any smarter, Chap.
So WHAT if she has “need”? Does that give the government the right to force me to work to fulfill this woman’s “need?”
Forcing someone to work for another person – for any amount of time, for any reason – is slavery.
Yes, slavery to help people in distress is still slavery.
It is ugly, and so are your arguments.
More on Henrietta and Corey. Notice this part:
So, they aren’t new to Fort Myers — but did I read that right? He had a job with “Fort Myers.” The local government? And got fired? Do you know how bad you have to be to get fired from a government job? (My dh works for DoD, and I can’t remember too many firings. The only one that comes to mind was the guy caught with kiddie porn on his work computer. Simple incompetence usually just gets you shuffled to another department so you become someone else’s problem.)
Wait, who’s forcing you to work?
Excellent point CJ.
Would you care to elaborate?
Yes, if the facts are as she claims.