More wheeling, dealing, and backroom scheming
Just an update on the porkulus negotiations still underway in Washington.
Yes, it’s sunlight-evading, earmark-stuffing business as usual there.
The buzz on the Hill is that Mitch McConnell is ready to fold, three more Senate Republicans may be joining the Turncoat Caucus, and the House may break a promise it made yesterday to make this process transparent and delay any vote until the final conference agreement had been posted onlin for 48 hours:
So in theory, talk of votes on Thursday or Friday this week are nonsense, unless the House decides to completely ignore this vote. There is some wiggle room to be had as the instructions specify that the text must be available to managers in the House, not the general public, but that still can’t be strictly true at least until final bill text is ready.
It would seem legitimate to expect the House to abide by this vote — and if it doesn’t, to ask why not….
The generational thieves close in on the deal…
Despite talk of a deal, the stimulus saga isn’t over — a deal has not been reached. CNN can confirm that Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid is in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office at this hour, trying to persuade her to agree.
Senate Democratic leadership aides say the holdup concerns the addition of $10 billion for school construction/modernization. In the Senate version, $10 billion was added to the $44 billion allocated toward ’state stabilization’ to help school infrastructure.
But aides say House members would rather this $10 billion in funding go through Title I, which would assign the funds based on need, as opposed to giving the money to governors through the state stabilization vehicle.
Nadeam Elshami, a spokesman for Speaker Nancy Pelosi, says that a meeting is currently underway in the Speaker’s office with House Democratic leadership, Senate representatives and White House representatives.
“We’re moving very rapidly to making an announcement on a deal,” said Elshami.
Bottom line? We are so screwed.
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GOP Rep. Tom Price lodges a protest outside Nan’s office.
Taxpayers should join him.
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Nothing to do now but duck and cover. God help us all.
I consider February 2009, and particularly this pork package, to be the “tipping point” where the path to socialism is confirmed, and implementation is unstoppable for the foreseeable future.
Doesn’t mean I won’t keep fighting, but you have to deal with what you got.
No RedDog. Nothing to do now but stock up on ammo.
OK, this kind of smells of black helicopter and tin-foil hat conspiracy theories, but it would explain things so well, the associations with Frank Marshall Davis and Bill Ayers, ACORN, the New Party…
Obama has been groomed by the KGB to destroy America for decades.
Mitch McConnell caves. Didn’t see that coming. Why would anyone be a Republican? Or as they are now known, the “other” Democratic party.
Allah acts surprised by Murkowski, but she is a Republican only because her father, the governor before being defeated by Palin, who appointed her to her seat was a Republican. She is a Christine Todd-Whitman “moderate” Republican who is 100% pro-abortion.
If someone suitable can fill Palin’s shoes as governor, I would so support a run in 2010 to turn another corrupt Murkowski out of office.
Well, the idiots voted for Change. They got it. Now we have to stop it or as much as possible.
Ed – I’d agree with your theory if you replaced KGB with Soros!
Wait, they add more Porkulus to the mother of all crap sandwiches, and several Republicans who rejected it before because it was so wasteful will vote for it now?
I don’t know about a GOP challenge from Toomey for Spectre’s seat in squishy Pennsylvania, but a squishy libtard RINO like Murkowski should be easy pickings in a real American state like Alaska.
Oh, while I am looking through AllahPundit’s blog, he thinks expelling the Treason Trio from the Republican caucus is a bad idea, because they’ll join the Democrats, give them over 60 votes, and we’ll lose the filibuster.
Talk about missing the forest for the trees.
There will never be a filibuster in this Senate. If the Treason Trio won’t hold out against Porkulus, they will never hold out for anything.
Where in the hell is Steele at? He should be out in public forceably letting everyone know that any Republican that votes for this POS bill in any form will be cut off from any national support, including funding and campaign appearences by conservative Republicans.
OT:
Just spoke to Todd Platts R congresscritter PA on local talk radio and hammered him on his yes vote on S-Chip expansion. Also nailed him for house GOP for being so busy patting eachother on backs and saying what a great job they did by voting in unison against pork bill that they dropped the ball they should have been out there telling everyone what was in it…
anyway am pleased with mahself and off to celebrate I got a verbal shot in
note to GOP: doing something right once don’t cut it CONSISTANCYYYYYYYYYYYY
P.S. after my call which was first he said he had no time for more calls snicker
Ed – after reading the article you linked I went to the website of the Communist Party of the USA. (Ugh!) To say they are quite happy with the recent events would be a colossal understatement.
Tipping Point – “the level at which the momentum for change becomes unstoppable.”
Used to be Tax & Spend, now just Spend & Spend. Look for Double digit inflation in a few years…deja vu Jimmy the peanut.
Maybe there’s a briht spot. This steaming pile now belongs to The One. He bought it / He owns it, and everything it brings. Single term? Cuda it be?
And food. Plant a garden, buy in bulk when you can, and learn how to bottle/can/freeze food. Once the rapid inflation starts, things are going to erode real fast.
Remember, when the U.S. dollar is worthless, other commodities will take the place of money. The barter economy will flourish, and those with something to trade will be in much better shape than those without.
There’s a fine line between feeding your children and taking them down to stand in line at the local soup kitchen once or twice a day.
A gallon of gas might be worth a pound of flour or a couple jars of potatoes and chicken.
Hopefully it won’t get that bad, but I prefer to have it and not need it rather than the alternative.
B.O. republicans, front and center. Spineless, good for nothing lackey and toadies.
(hit submit too soon)
My grandpa used to say, “when it comes to the government fooling with the economy, hope for the best and plan for the worst.”
He was raising 9 children through the 1930s and 40s, and never once did they miss a meal or need a government hand out. I understand they had some pretty thin meals on occasion (bread and milk), but a meal none the less.
I can not for the life of me undestand why any R has their name on this. The d’s have the majority and all it is doing is causing the people who voted for the r’s have less than good feeling about them. I am being nice, big time!
L
Latest from Rasmussen:
I think my black Lab Teddy would make a great congressman. He’s “House” trained, knows who feeds him, eager to please, and doesn’t bite.
If it wasn’t official before, it is now.
We are living under a Tyrannical Oligarchy..
I wonder how much longer before the brain control chips are introduced as law?
Who in our government will take a stand against these people, these domestic enemies of America, and execute their sworn duty to Protect and Defend the Constitution of the United States? If this continues, there can only be one outcome. If it comes to that, God help us all…
God help us all.
GIMME AN S…
GIMME A C…
GIMME AN R…
GIMME AN E…
GIMME A W…
GIMME A E…
GIMME A D…
WHAT’S THAT SPELL?
Life as a taxpayer in America.
I support that, but the only problem is taxpayers have jobs they cannot leave to protest. Its the Taxtakers that have the time without a threat of losing their jobs they don’t have, to line up and wait for BO to ask for more handouts.
Gee, Big deal; Why are we tolerating 22 million Mexicans here ? Why isn’t RICO being used against companies illegally hiring ? Another bust here in Phoenix but, the management did not have a clue ? Bravo Sierra… As long as McCain and company accomodate illegals, where else would they get gardeners ? Nothing will change.
If we’re going to build a big debt, let’s at least get some schools and highways. It shouldn’t all go toward making rich people richer (the Republican approach).
Of course the Senate and House leaders must talk to each other in private. The conference committee, which actually writes the bill, contains Republicans from the House and Senate.
As for damaging the country, these actions barely compare with invading Iraq, which cost as much money (not to mention all the people who got killed and the economic cost of keeping national guard members away from their jobs). There’s ignoring global warming, giving the US a reputation for torture, and filling the government with unqualified graduates of bob jones “university”.
Charge Mexico for every penny of the costa of illegals and anchor babies. Deport all anchor babies and their parents till the child is 18. I’m of a mind to bomb Mexico’s ” El Presidente ” palace. Free ammo for americans within 100 miles of the Mexican border.
This is why you DON’T support Rhinos, even if it’s the “lesser of two evils.”
Backstabbers are backstabbers whether they have an R or a D on their lapels.
The Republican Party spent a lot of money & energy helping those three turncoats stay in office, and they turned around and spat in the face of their party.
And that’s the least of their evils.
What’s more important is that they spat in the face of human freedom and liberty.
All for the well-being of the abstract non-existent “economy,” which is even more amorphous and impossible to predict than the weather…
lgm, if there were a way to magically transport you and all that think like you to another world where you would be free to indulge your every socio-economic fantasy I would do so in a heartbeat. I think you would find in a relatively short time your utopia would become a hell of your own making.
Meanwhile, with all the looters safe in their own world, the producers in this world would get about doing honest work and building a free, productive society.
If that’s your plan, I hope you enjoy competing with the Constitution, Libertarian, and Green parties, because that’s where you’re headed.
On February 11th, 2009 at 6:54 pm, lgm said:
That’s ALWAYS what happens when collectivism takes control of government! Even to Republicans!
Look at Denny Hastert sucking at the trough with his highway-bill earmarks that personally enriched him by inflating the price of land he owned. He was too busy with THAT to deal with keeping his own party in line and preventing Mark Foley from almost destroying the party.
What a corruptocrat collectivist scum!
Collectivism ALWAYS breeds corruption – just take a look at your beloved Nancy Pelosi and her husband’s lobbying, or Tom Daschle and his lobbying, or — need we go on to list every corrupt collectivist?
Yes, ossifer, I CAN rob the bank because all these other crimes were committed last month, so let me take the money out the bank, ossifer.
Tell me you are NOT in charge of teaching children how to think, Socrates. I only imagine you are one of the aliens from the Baldwin-Hulu commercial, ready to eat those poor brains of mush.
Collectivist cannibal.
On February 11th, 2009 at 7:07 pm, bluesoc said:
I don’t listen to advice from the hive, thanks. Peddle the propaganda elsewhere.
What a great line…Bravo.
On February 11th, 2009 at 5:13 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:
On February 11th, 2009 at 5:18 pm, Misscheryl said:
It’s not hard to believe the KBG/FSB angle. See all the connections in
Besides, Soros is a Socialist/Communist, too.
Soros and the KGB are not mutually exclusive.
Also pay attention to KGB agent, Jimmy Carter’s National Security Advisor, and Obama puppet master:
Thomas Sowell has pointed out many times that Republicans go to Washington to make deals with democrats. This is particularly true of the Senate, somewhat less so of the House — for now. I think they also go there to apologize for the people they represent:”That’s right Mr. Powerful Democrat, sir. We despise them too. So I will get invited to that soiree of the rich and power, correct?”
The only thing that can be done is what the Left did to the democrats — take over the Party, inform them we own them, and enforce it. This current Congress is not a legislative body — it is a junta and has to be treated as such. I wish e-mails and phone calls did the trick but it is too late. The only hope we have is to take to the streets. Sorry, but it’s the only thing they respect. Business as usual no longer does the job, if it ever did.
I received this email yesterday, thought how apropos it is considering the split we have in the country now days. I think it pretty well describes our differences and how settle them.
Subject: Let’s split the wealth – a bi-partisan proposal
A Modest Proposal:
Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists,
Marxists, Obama supporters, et al:
We have stuck together since the late 1950’s, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course.
Our two ideological sides of America cannot, and will not ever agree on what is right, so let’s just end it on friendly terms. We can smile, chalk it up to irreconcilable differences, and go our own way.
Here is a model dissolution agreement:
Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that it should be relatively easy!
Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes. We don’t like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.
Since you hate guns and war, we’ll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military.
You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O’Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move them).
We’ll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street.
You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies, and illegal aliens. We’ll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO’s, and rednecks.
We’ll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood.
You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we’ll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us.
You can have the peaceniks and war protestors.
When our allies or way of life are under assault, we’ll provide them job security.
We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values.. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N. But we will no longer be paying the bill.
We’ll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.
You can give everyone healthcare, if you can find any practicing doctors. We’ll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right.
We’ll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem.
I’m sure you’ll be happy to substitute Imagine, I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya, or We Are the World.
We’ll practice trickle down economics, and you can give trickle up poverty its best shot.
Since it often so offends you we’ll keep our history, our name, and our flag.
Would you agree to this? If so please pass it along to other like minded patriots, and if you do not agree, just hit delete and hang on. In the spirit of friendly parting, I’ll bet you ANWAR on who will need whose help in 15 years.
Sincerely,
law student and an American
rightisright – I like that proposal!!! Let’s do it.
The Communists have accomplished many of their goals found in W. Cleon Skousen’s 1960 book The Naked Communist and which were recorded into the Congressional record over 46 years ago (January 10, 1963). One of those goals was:
Who was responsible for relinquishing U.S. control of the Panama Canal?
Zbigniew Brzezinski
Interestingly, at one time Zbigniew Brzezinski’s wikipedia entry bragged about him being an advisor to Obama. However, that was scrubbed once it was revealed which side Brzezinski really works for.
Certain YouTube videos about Brzezinski were scrubbed, too.
But make no doubt about it…. Brzezinski is one of Obama’s “advisors”.
In truth, Brzezinski is more than an “advisor”…he is one of the puppet masters pulling Obama’s strings.
What do you want to bet that Brzezinski is one of the few who communicate with Obama on his Blackberry?
lgm is clueless.Money for schools when every homeowner pays higher&higher school taxes for very little in return.The gasoline tax is collected to build &repair roads&bridges.As for the National Guard troops away from their jobs,If you had ever served instead of hiding from it you would be aware of the pay structure.Most troops are paid better than they make at a regular job.
lgm,just once get your facts correct before you poop this drivel so we won’t have to feel sorry for you.
REdSTate.
Are there any principles for which the Senate GOP will take a stand?
I never, well almost never, forward these kinds of emails but this one seemed like it was begging to get posted somewhere.
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At first I thought this was funny… then I realized the awful truth of it. Be sure to read all the way to the end!
Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he’s fed.
Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.
Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for peanuts
Anyway!
Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.
Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.
Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.
Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
I! f he cries
Tax his tears.
Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass.
Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won’t be done
Till he has no dough.
When he screams and hollers,
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He’s good and sore.
Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he’s laid.
Put these words
Upon his tomb,
“Taxes drove me to my doom…”
When he’s gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (44.75 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge Tax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SETA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation T ax
STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
Not one of these TAXES existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
What in heavens happened? Can you spell “politicians?”
And I still have to “press 1″ for English!?
I hope this goes around THE USA at least 100 times!!!!! YOU can help it get there!!!!
GO AHEAD – - – BE AN AMERICAN!!!!!!
jjmurphy , as I stated at 1st, in that post, I did not write it, it was done by a law student, I left their name off on purpose.
It sure summed it all for me when left vs. right. Wouldn’t that be sumpin’ if it came about, wouldn’t take long and we wouldn’t need to worry about left wingers for many years to come.
WarEagle82, down right scares the hell out of me…you realize the 1st American Revolution was started over less than these taxes?
Yep, that was clear in your first post, but I still think it is an awesome email!
none of this should be happening behind closed doors…this isn’t national security matters where info might be fed to the terrorists or our enemies….oh my mistake the people are the enemy…
open gooberment….full transparency…
none of this should be happening behind closed doors…this isn’t national security matters where info might be fed to the terrorists or our enemies….oh my mistake the people are the enemy…
open gooberment….full transparency…I can dream can’t I….
I found this statement on another website. I find it very interesting.
And true.
On February 11th, 2009 at 5:43 pm, jjmurphy said:
Compare the text of
to the Preamble to the
I look at WorldNetDaily all the time. A safe place to be like this one.
There is no conspiracy theory here. Obama has been quite transparent about his true beliefs throughout his life. It is the fault of the masses that they don’t recognize it.
You might be interested to know that, per Harry Reid, taxes in the U.S. are voluntary …………….. hmmmmmm, maybe THAT explains all the “issues” with Cabinet appointees & others …………..
Semper Fi’
DM
Got that? Obama was careful to choose Marxist professors as friends!
Thanks for that montage. I started reading Aaron Klein’s WND rep
orts on Obama almost two years ago and all these goods are there. Why all this doesn’t alarm more people is beyond me.
In a previous thread here, I was advised by another blogger, “Never, ever respond to lgm.”
I’ve been avoiding doing this. Should force myself. Where’s the smelling salts?
Where are all those “conservative pundits” who were killing themselves between the election and the inauguration trying to convince us that Obama wanted to govern as a “centrist?”
I see the “chattering classes” have stopped chattering about that silly idea.
Be happy you can still get english!
On February 11th, 2009 at 10:21 pm, purealchemy said:
I did such a comparison myself the night after he delivered that speech. Here’s what I saw:
*Congress should be forced to read “Meltdown” by Thomas Woods; Then maybe they’ll understand what the chattering class is saying and why we are right.
*Hey WarEagle82: I prefer “press 1 for english, press 2 for deportation”
Just a reminder of what Obama thinks qualifies as “irresponsible”:
Got that? Even though he said, “it would be irresponsible for me…” he was not talking about himself. He was talking about President Bush.
When he said, “it would be irresponsible for me … to enter into the administration without any potential ammunition” he was really saying “it would be irresponsible for President Bush to leave the administration without giving Obama the other $350 Billion!
So Obama gets to have his cake and eat it, too. Obama got the $350 Billion from Bush, and then turns around and blames Bush for the increase to our debt under Bush’s tenure!
Bush should not have released the other $350 Billion. He should have let Obama ask for it. Heck, Obama’s ready to ask for $2 Trillion in TARP 2.
Source of last quote:
Dear Leader, our “messiah”, has spoken. Be reassured, citizens.
Now get ready, the left wing media is about to make the economy improve . . . it won’t really, but that’s not important because you’ll believe it is improving.