The generational thieves reach a deal; GOP conferees frozen out

This just in from CongressDaily:
House and Senate leaders have struck a tentative deal on a stimulus package with a top-line figure of $789.5 billion, Democratic aides said this morning. The overall mix of funding and tax provisions remains to be hashed out. One disappointment for President Obama is likely to be a scaled-back “Making Work Pay” tax credit of $400 for individuals and $800 for married couples, which falls short of his goal of $500 and $1,000. But those figures would still meet Obama’s goal of providing a tax credit to 95 percent of working families. Conferees are scheduled to meet at 3 p.m. today, although that will largely be a formality. Democratic aides said House Speaker Pelosi intends to bring the bill to the floor Thursday, followed by Sente passage Friday.
House GOP staff have blown the whistle on the backroom wheeling and dealing that froze out the GOP conferees:
It appears that Pelosi and Reid staff met all through the night in secret with Democratic conferees’ staff to cobble together the “stimulus” conference report. Republican conferees were frozen out.
The objective appears to be to produce a final conference report on the trillion-dollar spending bill by this afternoon so that floor action can take place in both chambers by Thursday.
They intend to ram this trillion-dollar spending bill through with as little debate and scrutiny as possible.
The House voted unanimously yesterday in support of a Republican measure stating that the American should have 48 hrs to review the bill prior to passage. Will Democrats follow through? Or will they do the opposite of what they voted to do yesterday?
RedState has more details from GOP Rep. Tom Price on the freeze-out.
Most ethical, bipartisan, transparent Congress ever, right?
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Thats right and if you don’t agree you will be suspended from your job for 30 days.
The Democratic Party fully and exclusively owns this shame, this biggest waste of American treasure in U.S. history. This gigantic deed of nation-weakening malfeasance is entirely around their necks — and when the economy goes further south, expect more “bailouts” to fix their previous “bailouts.”
Those machines that print American money had better be checked NOW for properly functioning cooling fans.
LIAR!
Less cash for non-wealthy taxpayers. What a deal. As Mel Brooks said in History of the World; screw the poor. Keep the peasants down. Give em food stamps, not cash. Especially now the poor face the MOST regressive tax hike ever. Scrap the bill. ” Kill Bill III “
Any comment from the RINO 3?
We know power corrupts. They are going for absolute power.
Errah; Spector, Snowe and Collins appear to have been played as useful idiots to help squelch any discussion on the floor of the senate. Look what that got them.
At least the Dims can, and should, claim complete ownership of this debacle.
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What do you mean played. They are useful idiots. 100% all the time.
The only transparency is their scheme to strip every civil liberty away from hard-working, independent,responsible people.
my wife’s daughter has finally awoken on this one…she voted for dear leader and is now sorry she did…mom I had no idea…yep we tried to tell her but she just had to see for herself…hopefully our nation will survive….
Are you ready to line up at the trough for a great, big, juicy Virginia Ham? Democratic Governor Kaine has set a site up asking Virginians to suggest how the pork, uh I mean, stimulus, should be spent. Oink, Oink. I’m going to suggest they return it like the State of South Carolina’s Mark Sanford says he’ll do.
GOP locked out makes me very merry! When this whole mess flunks out, the donks will own the entire blame! Come on 2010! Doing the Happy Dance now! wheeee!
It’s all good, kinda entertaining in a way, watching the Democrats build the gallows from which they will eventually hang themselves.
Oh gag me with a spoon!
Yet, the 3 turncoats will still vote for it.
I was going to go with just plain idiots, but that works too. I watched the interview that Megyn Kelly had with Arlen Spector and was appalled (but not necessarily surprised) at how clueless, ignorant and out of touch Spector was.
“The Democratic Party fully and exclusively owns this shame.”
We all know that to be true but no one in the media will say it or remember it that way. Specter Snowe and Collins should be recalled immediately for enabling this travesty.
I already changed my party affiliation to Independent but was considering coming back for Michael Steele. I will never give another penny to Republican party if Specter Snowe and Collins are not publicly & decisively called to account for their anit conservative and frankly anti american actions.
Nice words, but Nancy Pelosi has not been good for her word. She is doing the exact opposite of what she promised.
Bipartisanship?
Fiscal responsibility?
Highest ethical standards?
The most honest and open Congress in history?
I wish.
As far as Nancy Pelosi’s own ethics issues, Michelle has already covered Pelosi’s personal investments in Pickens’ plan. Also look into the connections between American Samoa, Starkist Tuna (located in Pelosi’s district, with significant operations in American Samoa), and legislation Pelosi has passed.
They have no shame, and America1st is in almost to a certainty correct in saying:
Plus, don’t forget it has nothing to do with economic stimulus (except as window dressing) and everything to do with rewarding constituents and cronies, and shoring up power.
iamsaved; The Simpsons did an episode like that (they hit oil on school property)–Ralphie Wiggum wanted chocolate microscopes. From my time spent in Virginia, I’ll venture to say you’ll get a lot of ‘Ralphie’ suggestions….
There is so much to say on this issue, but as unual the ones who are voting in Congress don’t listen to the people. This does nothing to help the economy now. This does nothing to help the people who actually create jobs. It does nothing to help people get off of welfare and get a job. It does not help working people with their taxes. It punishes everyone who makes a decent living and tries to do right. It gives away houses to people who cannot afford to pay for them. It does nothing to help people who actually pay for their mortgages on time. All of us and our children and grandchildren will be paying for this boondoggle for years to come. And this is only the tip of the iceberg. The government will sink trillions more into this mess when they see it doesn’t work.
Unfortunately, many only learn the hard way.
We live in a fast food world where people are apt to adopt a position based on their initial impressions of its plausibility.
With the liberals carefully crafted mis-information, and the medias aiding and abetting, those whom have never learned to look for opposing points of view before deciding, were those that chose everyone else’s loss of self-determination we now face.
The’re only useful to Democrats, and constitute the best argument I’ve seen for never voting for RINOs.
it will pass, because our rino3 didn’t hold on to their principles or brains. hope over reason. the only viable strategy now is to have no gop votes in either the house or the senate. let dems live or die with this crap sandwich.
But But But Bill Grant says its very important that we elect Republicans who sell out to Democrats.
If any republican votes for this bill, I will send money to his/her opponents.
Welcome to National Socialism! — BTW – have you tried to buy ammo lately?
Where is McCain’s bipartisan “Gang of 14″ now? I guess bipartisanship only works against us conservatives.
NOW can we have new leadership in the GOP? If ever the problem was the messenger and not the message, now is that time.
Apparently, the Dems have realized that if you tell people what they want to hear, they will vote for you.
Of course, you don’t actually have to back those promises up. John Lott has a nice article on a few of Obama’s broken promises and outright lies.
It reminds me of the movie Mars Attacks where the aliens are saying “we come in peace” the whole time they’re shooting.
We have lost all say in Washington.
Take the battle to the state level.
Last week I read about New Hampshire’s HR6 (I think)
It seems there are several other states doing something similar.
Here is a copy if you haven’t seen it:
Why did you say that name? You promised me you’d never say that name!
AmericanPatriot, do you have a link for that bill?
The GOP isn’t shut out because of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, they’re shut out because of American voters.
You should be thankful that the Democrats worked to have 60 votes in the Senate, without even the threat of a filibuster from the GOP. If they passed a bill with a simple majority, it would be far heftier with fewer tax cuts. By definition, Specter, Snowe and Collins are NOT centrists, they are to the right of the Senate average, and therefore the right of the country. You should be happy they had any input at all.
These senators are not accountable to you. They are accountable to the people of Maine and Pennsylvania, who of course voted overwhelmingly Democrat last year. Why should they pay tribute to Michael Steele?
Face it, the GOP screwed up huge, and because of that, they now have no power whatsoever. You have only George Bush, Tom DeLay and the rest to blame.
Elections have consequences.
Welcome to reality.
Republicans lost. We’re screwed.
I would add a lot more RINOs to that list. What’s even worse is that the GOP leaders who surrendered to the Dems when Republicans controlled everything (think “gangs of….”) are still in charge of the GOP. Things are not going to improve until that part is rectified. The GOP is now the political version of Al Davis’ Oakland Raiders.
This is be the perfect time to filibuster. The question is if the RINO 3 would go for it.
And, Socky, you’re exactly right!!
If Specter, Collins, and/or Snow continue to support this charade and are not stripped of their committee seats by the RNC, I will be changing my party affiliation to independent.
Also, if you were duped into giving money to the RNC because McCain chose Palin, you can still get that money back. Let them know why you are doing it.
It is fair to punish the entire party for their renegade members if those members have NEVER been disciplined.
I don’t know why they’re called useful idiots, I have no use for them!
#34 Insomniac
I first read about it here
http://urbansurvival.com/nl20090207.htm
Scroll down to the post for Tuesday Feb 4
Later, I heard an interview at http://www.katherinealbrecht.com with the author of the bill
It’s in the archives.
I know, I travel in weird places
How typical. So much for bipartisanship.
And this: “But those figures would still meet Obama’s goal of providing a tax credit to 95 percent of working families.”
So, I suppose those people who don’t pay INCOME taxes will get their lovely welfare check, off my back. Don’t worry, I won’t be getting any tax relief anytime soon. I’m in that 5% that Obama thinks doesn’t really “work” since he insists that 95% of the tax cuts go to “working” families.
Small businesses who provide jobs like we do don’t count.
This is going to be a VERY, VERY long four years.
“Republicans lost. We’re screwed.”
I’m sorry but why are you buying into the myth being sold by the Left? That is NOT how our government works. Its not a “winner take all” government.
Obama saying he “won” means he gets to do what he wants is just one more error of his mindset.
Why is any conservative taking what he says as if its true and therefore we are “screwed”?
Its time to start diverting funds from supporting the RNC to funding the legal offices that will stand up against these un-Constitutional “provisions” in the courts.
Being a majority does not then mean they rule like a monarchy.
Is anyone surprised by the back handed, back door actions of the left, unamerican, corrupt politicians. Rush is the town crier again today, telling it like it is.
When the conservatives get the power back, which they will, they have to police their own, make sure no more crooks have the support of the party. I’ve seen it for years, this taking the “high road” what bag crap that is…folks politics is not a parlor game it is for real…LIFE, it is a fight. The right needs to fight back, just like the libs have been doing for decades while the right stands aside saying nothing if not bending over. Be strong but fair and above all do not cave to unamerican laws and rules. Bork every court nominee that even smells like a socialist, example: Ruth (the gator) Ginsberg. She should never have been accepted to the court…NEVER!
When in a fight the guy who fights so as not to make the other guy mad or hurt his feelings is going to lose, the “high road” will get you hurt.
“Is anyone surprised by the back handed, back door actions of the left, unamerican, corrupt politicians.”
No.
“Is anyone surprised by the back handed, back door actions of the left, unamerican, corrupt politicians.”
This is also why many of us held our noses and voted for McCain by the way.
Something that I wonder about for those folks who abstained from voting who may have voted for McCain, I wonder what they are thinking about their actions today?
I liked you better when you said:
Can you say SNAFU?
How many sides are there to Pelosi’s pie hole?
Can you say, BOHICA ?
Seriously, was there ever one indication that Snowe, Collins and Specter would not support the leftists? Maybe someone thought so but I didn’t.
It was only a matter of time until their price was reached. And they proved to be willing accomplices in this matter.
I actually figured they would want to bump up the total price. Of course, everything will over run the expected cost in the end so this “$700 billion” bill will be way more than $1 trillion even before we count interest over the years.
The GOP is dead.
I am still happy that a RINO wasn’t rewarded for years of selling out my principles.
Thanks for asking.
With the help there three Republican traitors the Democrat’s Politburo has finalized their rape of the treasury.
On February 11th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, rplatt said:
Indeed. Three “rights” make a left.
I repeat, where is McCain’s traitorous “gang of 14″ now? Why aren’t his friends helping us in the spirit of bipartisanship?
THAT is why it was not a mistake to vote 3rd party which is what those who stayed at home should have done. It would have been worse had McCain won and we were now fighting his multiple gangs over this bailout boondoggle.
How in the hell do almost 300 million Americans tolerate this crap from roughly 300?
Even stupid people can see that this is a crock of crap and is anything but governing or leadership. It’s a morally bankrupt power play – and I hope it comes back to bite them.
I just hope the damage isn’t irreversible, although I think that is their intent this time. Make it as hard to fix as possible.
That’s funny stuff right there.
NRO Corner
Sounds a little bit kinky. How would ya like a set of pups out of that?
So, the GOP folks are being “frozen out”. At least, they won’t get any more of the blame when this “stimulus” doesn’t stimulate anything. The midterm elections are already looking more interesting…
The GOP freeze out won’t have any political gain if McConnell votes for this thing.What IS he thinking??