Hey, GOP: Prove Joe Biden wrong

By Michelle Malkin  •  February 12, 2009 08:49 AM

The Club for Growth has a message for the GOP. I second this:

While out stumping for the President’s spending spree today, Vice-President Joe Biden predicted that more Republicans would vote for the Democratic stimulus bill. The Club for Growth urged all Republicans in the House and the Senate to prove the Vice-President wrong.

“The stimulus bill has changed little over the past day and a half as it has made its way through Congress,” said Club for Growth President Pat Toomey. “This conference report remains as badly flawed as it was when it was first proposed. At best, it is predicated on the discredited idea that we can spend our way out of a recession. This idea didn’t work for the U.S. during the Great Depression; it didn’t work for Japan in the 1990s; and it won’t work now. At worst, it represents a pent-up Democratic wish list, stuffed to the gills with wasteful spending and projects that don’t even pretend to be about stimulating the economy.”

“Save three Republican Senators, the GOP has demonstrated a commendable willingness to stand up for the American taxpayers who will be forced to pay for this monstrosity for years to come. We hope they will continue to stand strong. If President Obama is serious about crafting a genuine bipartisan compromise, he will have to offer Republicans and the American people something other than a liberal spending frenzy and a heaping pile of new debt.”

CfG website is here.

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  1. #1
    On February 12th, 2009 at 8:52 am, ajmontana said:

    Prove Bidet wrong? geze that should be hard to do. :roll:

  2. #2
    On February 12th, 2009 at 8:56 am, jangar said:

    At worst, it represents a pent-up Democratic wish list, stuffed to the gills with wasteful spending and projects that don’t even pretend to be about stimulating the economy

    Perfect for feel-good Rino’s wishing to stay in the good graces of the party in charge.

  3. #3
    On February 12th, 2009 at 8:57 am, rooster said:

    I haven’t heard a peep out of Michael Steele on this crap?
    Why hasn’t he come out in public explaining to all of us morons that still have hope for republicans demonstrating a little conservatism?

  4. #4
    On February 12th, 2009 at 8:58 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    It would be less time consuming to try to prove him right, and just say I give up.

  5. #5
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:02 am, Send_Me said:

    While I agree with this note, they’ve completely missed two crucial arguments here: 1) most of the items in this “stimulus” bill, not to mention the principle of a “stimulus” bill itself, are unconstitutional (this may not mean much to some, but it does to those of us dedicating our lives to defending the Constitution); and 2) nothing is said concerning the power moves involved, the blatant signs of Communism, the overt efforts to change this country from a republic, to a democracy, to an oligarchy.
    This is no mere spending bill. If the Republicans wished to live up to their namesake, they might want to start with these issues here.

  6. #6
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:03 am, CleanGuy said:

    Unfortunately, the GOP won’t prove him 100% wrong the way we want them to. D$%& RINOs.

  7. #7
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:08 am, maine yankee said:

    Here’s an idea for the fillibuster.

    Instead of reading the phone book,

    Just read the bill—every darn word on every darn page.

    But first, suspend the vote until an actual paper copy of the bill is in hand.

  8. #8
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:09 am, jjmurphy said:

    Rooster and Send_Me make great points. Where the He** is Steele on all of this, and where are the cries about the destruction of the Constitution?

    This just gets worse by the hour.

  9. #9
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:10 am, jangar said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:03 am, CleanGuy said:
    Unfortunately, the GOP won’t prove him 100% wrong the way we want them to. D$%& RINOs.

    You’re right. They’ll droan on about how some portions are good.

    It’s ALL crap!

  10. #10
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:13 am, jangar said:

    In the end it will be the magical bi-partisan compromise of the suckulus bill of 2009.

  11. #11
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:18 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:09 am, jjmurphy said:
    Rooster and Send_Me make great points. Where the He** is Steele on all of this, and where are the cries about the destruction of the Constitution?

    Rebuilding??? Expect to be given another plea: “Visit our NEW AND IMPROVED site and let us know what you think “conservative” values mean concerning [fill in the blank here]. If you have to ask, step down please.

  12. #12
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:28 am, FuriousMob said:

    I’ve seen Michael Steele on TV. It was just the other day I saw him go head to head with my sleezeball governer Kaine about the bill only creating “work” and not real jobs. He took a lot of flak for the wording of that, but his point was perfectly valid.

  13. #13
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:32 am, FamilyMan said:

    Vice-President Joe Biden predicted that more Republicans would vote for the Democratic stimulus bill

    It must be bipartisan.
    It must be bipartisan.
    It must be bipartisan.
    It must be bipartisan.
    In political speak that means I don’t want to take responsibility when the bill doesn’t accomplish what it’s meant to do.

  14. #14
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:32 am, marsouin said:

    Thanks to the New Deal Supreme Court and the Progressive justices since, America has now become a kleptocracy. And the public, including the educated elite, just love it.

  15. #15
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:34 am, JDinTX said:

    The whole bill is a bunch of cr*p. I have faxed, e-mailed and called my Texas senators. All I get back from them is their politically correct form letters, so I don’t know how they are going to vote. I know my congrssman is voting against it.

  16. #16
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:36 am, JDinTX said:

    At least if all the Republicans vote against this bill, then the Democrats won’t have anyone to blame when it goes down the tube of failure.

  17. #17
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:41 am, b-cat said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:36 am, JDinTX said:
    At least if all the Republicans vote against this bill, then the Democrats won’t have anyone to blame when it goes down the tube of failure.

    Republicans are to stupid to know this or too cowardly to care. Prove me wrong, GOP.

  18. #18
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:46 am, lgm said:

    the discredited idea that we can spend our way out of a recession. This idea didn’t work for the U.S. during the Great Depression; it didn’t work for Japan in the 1990s;

    OK, what about the discredited idea that tax cuts and military spending don’t cause budget deficits?

    If you read what economists write about the depression, you find that FDR spending (that started in 1933) improved the lives of workers. His balanced budget of 1937 damaged the economy. The present stimulus package is designed to avoid the mistakes the Japanese made in the 90′s.

  19. #19
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:47 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Speaking of idiots…

  20. #20
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:49 am, FuriousMob said:

    Speaking of idiots…

    I lol’d

  21. #21
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:05 am, jjmurphy said:

    lgm – I’m still working with the elves and wizards to transport you and your fellow travelers to your own “happy place”.

  22. #22
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:08 am, cheapseat said:

    i’m with the majority here, where the hell is steele, and why isn’t mcconnell stripping these jerks of any plum posts they may hold. as dumb as the maine morons are, i’m sure they never held anything except parks and dog poop removal department committee chairmanship and vice chair, but that worthless puke from pennsylvania is still on committees. maybe he gets his votes from the dems which value his “input” isn’t he the one who had brain surgery lately, seems they removed the brain and left the tumor.

  23. #23
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:10 am, b-cat said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:46 am, lgm said:

    See me after class.

  24. #24
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:22 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:08 am, cheapseat said:
    i’m with the majority here, where the hell is steele…

    Right here.

  25. #25
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:26 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    “There’s no place like home. There’s no place like home. There’s no place like home.” Ok, I clicked my heels three times too but I’m still here! NOTHING HAPPENED!!!!

    I thought I’d try that because my expectation that Michael Steele would begin his new role with both barrels and demonstrate conservative leadership – didn’t happen.

    Hmmm? Maybe that remote control over there will work? Yes! I can just change to another channel!

    “They’re coming to take me away ho ho!”

  26. #26
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:26 am, GladzKravtz said:

    Contact Steele if you think he’s not doing enough!

    Republican National Committee

    Office of the Chairman
    Phone: 202-863-8700
    Fax: 202-863-8820
    Email: Chairman@gop.com

    Take a look at his
    Monday, February 09, 2009
    Republican Response To Obama’s Press Conference

    Maybe he needs to do more and maybe the media isn’t picking him up…

  27. #27
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:30 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    OK, what about the discredited proven idea that tax cuts … don’t cause budget deficits increase revenue?

    We’re on the RIGHT side of the Laffer Curve. Kennedy proved it; Reagan proved it; and Bush II proved it.

    All depressions and recessions before the 1930s recovered without Government intervention within a short time (1-2 years).

    Other Western nations recovered from the Great Depression quicker than America did.

    Doing NOTHING is better than what Obummer, Peloser and Dingey Harry want.

  28. #28
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:34 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    We’re on the RIGHT side of the Laffer Curve. Kennedy proved it; Reagan proved it; and Bush II proved it.

    Even the CBO said it … but just not in those terms.

  29. #29
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:45 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    Save three Republican Senators traitorous pieces of schumer, the GOP has demonstrated a commendable willingness to stand up for the American taxpayers

  30. #30
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:46 am, lgm said:

    Dexter Alarius (#27):

    We’re on the RIGHT side of the Laffer Curve. Kennedy proved it; Reagan proved it; and Bush II proved it.

    What did Reagan prove? He cut taxes and the deficit soared. It’s OK to run a deficit in lean years — that’s what Obama wants to do — but it’s bad to run deficits in fat years, which is what Reagan did.

  31. #31
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:53 am, jjmurphy said:

    lgm – Reagan cut taxes. Revenues doubled. Congress tripled spending. Deficit increased. Simple math.

  32. #32
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:03 am, Savage24 said:

    Bad news I already heard that three more in the senate and one in the house are ready to jump over to the Marxist.

  33. #33
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:17 am, DBNinKY said:

    The present stimulus package is designed to avoid the mistakes the Japanese made in the 90’s.

    And you know this because…?

    He cut taxes and the deficit soared.

    Also, the USSR soared into the distance, our military and national pride soared to new heights, and the United States soared with the greatest amount ever of peace-time wealth and prosperity – and all created by tax cuts, spending caps and limited government! A fair trade-off, I’d say.

    It’s OK to run a deficit in lean years — that’s what Obama wants to do — but it’s bad to run deficits in fat years, which is what Reagan did.

    There is NO WAY you could have lived in this country during the nightmare that was the Carter years and still post something that patently false and naive.

    As a math instructor, yours should be the most vociferous protest on this site against this unconscionable spending bill – a bill that steals from the future labors of our kids and grand-kids to excuse the actions of the irresponsible among us today, namely the Democrats; it says a lot that you aren’t.

  34. #34
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:10 pm, dan708 said:

    I just tried to get into Arlen Specter’s website again, but it’s down. I’ll try (in vain) later. I did send another email to Democrat Bob Casey (also in vain – neither of these guys listens to us).

  35. #35
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:43 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    OK, what about the discredited idea that tax cuts and military spending don’t cause budget deficits?

    Your a math guy, answer this, what happens when you spend more than you bring in?

    If tax cuts bring in more revenue but you spend more than you bring in… oh never mind…

  36. #36
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:46 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    He cut taxes and the deficit soared.

    You seriously need to talk to your colleagues in Accounting. You are completely ignoring spending. You can’t be that stupid, I’m willing to chalk it up to ignorance…

  37. #37
    On February 12th, 2009 at 1:18 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Dexter Alarius (#27): We’re on the RIGHT side of the Laffer Curve. Kennedy proved it; Reagan proved it; and Bush II proved it.

    to which lib-bot lgm then said: What did Reagan prove? He cut taxes and the deficit soared. It’s OK to run a deficit in lean years — that’s what Obama wants to do — but it’s bad to run deficits in fat years, which is what Reagan did.

    Hey there libby troll! WHO said the Laffer curve had one damn thing to do with the deficit? HMMM?

    Your typical lame liberal spin is getting very boring. Taxes were cut and FEDERAL REVENUE INCREASED.

    Just because democrats SQUANDERED federal revenue faster than it increased after a tax cut does NOTHING to disprove Mr. Laffer. Reagan was given nothing but CRAP by the democrat Congress who repeatedly added UNnecessary line item PORK to essential spending bills. It came down to Reagan being forced to also accept the CRAP that the liberals wanted in order to get what the country needed. (Hence the ‘line item veto’ that Reagan promised and was passed after he left office only to be struck down by liberals in the Supreme Court who ~thought~ that helping to PREVENT excessive federal spending was unconstitutional.)

  38. #38
    On February 12th, 2009 at 1:29 pm, rightisright said:

    AG, “… oh never mind…” that is the correct attitude to have with lgm. After reading his postings for so long I give up, don’t bother paying any attention any longer, he’s beyond rational thinking, nothing but the Party line spills out of his mouth. The really scary part is, what does he tell his students.

  39. #39
    On February 13th, 2009 at 7:58 am, mike.musculus said:

    AG, RtisRt:
    You don’t seriously believe that lgm is *really* a math teacher, do you? ;-)

    Its been caught out in errors concerning that field’s basic knowledge that giving any of his utterances credence is become clownish.

    I say that even allowing for the freefall in quality of public school teachers in the USA. Even if you were generous and allowed that lgm is running point on the deline, his [lack of] ability in his “chosen” field is so microscopic that no member of a hiring committee could stop laughing long enough to sign the employment contract.

    Add up, (another area lgm’s challenged in…) lgm’s deficencies:
    Statistics, arithmetic, logic, abstract thought, concrete thought, laying out proofs… well, I don’t really have the time for so long a list.

    Instead, fellow MM board readers, let me suggest something to help your blood pressures.

    There are many news & forum reader applications on the market for linux and M$ Windows. Probably for Macs, too. Most I’ve tried let you “hide” posts by trolls using either a trolls’ handle or a set of rules that are applied to the body of posts.

    This software must have been designed w/lgm & friends in mind. I’ve put lgm as a handle, told my laptop’s reader software to hide his posts, and **I never see them!** I do see when he’s referred to, which prompted this comment.

    Just something to help keep down the bloodpressure. I know reading the idoitic posts of the lgm’s here was driving mine through the top of the meter. This became especially obvious after I started daily checks, (which I did b/c of Dad’s stroke…).

    I hope you find this post useful.

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