Kennedy will miss porkulus vote tomorrow
Well, this should make things a little more interesting tomorrow. The Boston Globe reports that Ted Kennedy will not be in D.C. for the porkulus vote. And with Judd Gregg back in action after abstaining on stimulus votes while he was Commerce Secretary nominee, things could really get interesting:
Senator Edward M. Kennedy, battling brain cancer, returned to Washington this week for key votes on the stimulus package.
But he is going back to Florida, where he has been resting after suffering a seizure on Inauguration Day, CNN is reporting this afternoon.
And that is prompting Harry Reid, the top Democrat in the Senate, to troll for another moderate Republican or two to vote for the compromise version of the stimulus on Friday, just to be safe.
With Kennedy’s vote and those of three Republicans, the Senate passed the plan with 61 votes — just one more than necessary.
Will the Turncoat Caucus get new members tomorrow?
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Every Body, Let’s pray hard for a miracle and a fillibuster!!!
There. Better. Troll was in the wrong place.
Now here’s an opportunity…
All we need is 1 senator to demand they read the Bill before the vote. Any semi-spineless RINO willing to demand this ?
crickets chirping…
Without an auctioneer, how long would it take to read this bill aloud ?
OH GOODIE!
Now we have a chance for the MSM to call us obstructionist.
It certainly would let people see the crap for what it is.
Hey Mr. Steele, you HAVE called ALL of the Repubs … right?
And you DID tell them ALL that if they vote for the pork-package that ALL future GOP funding will be $0.00 … right?
Now is a good time to grow a large set of cojones.
I rather like being called obstructionist; How say you ?
Senate rules: It only takes one to derail unanimous consent.
On February 12th, 2009 at 9:27 pm, Jeff2161 said:
I wish one of these spineless GOP senators would get up & read it on the Senate floor!
I think they only need 51 on this vote, unless the Republicans try for a filibuster, which they won’t, McConnell has already said so.
Awww…I was hoping the crack pilot JFK Jr. would be flying him up from the Southern Kennedy Compound in Florida.
btw: do you think the new Health Czar would ever decide that an old coot politician like Kennedy was not deserving of the lastest, best, most expensive treatment — and that the excuse would be that “he’s too important to die”??
(Meanwhile, your sweet old granddad with the same illness would be told to tidy up his affairs, to make room for the younger generation)
Now this is the time to see whether these three are so “patriotic” as Reid and Obama claim they are.
I agree. I hope Steele is doing everything in his power to let the turncoats know that a yes vote will result in NO national funding. I just wish he was letting all of us know that he was doing it.
2 words: soilent green.
Oh, kinda like what the Dems did to Bush for 8 years with his policies and judges, appointments and everything else?
You know what they say…payback is a B
Depending on which version you believe, didn’t Collins pet projects get cut?
If so, how can she then vote for this? If she votes in favor, it certainly shows she cares more about pork than what her public statements suggest.
As for Gregg, same thing. He bowed out of the ComSec job because of problems with this bill. How can he vote in favor of it given his reasons for bowing out?
I know, RINO’s both, not generally known for their logic.
If Reid were as good a leader as Horatio he would realize that all he needs to do is turn the shoulder, remove the glasses, and strike that goofy CSI Miami pose and all the RINO’s will cave in fear, vote, and confess.
Obstruct! Sue! Sue!
Nothing like surrendering early huh?
So a man with very little brain function would vote for this stealfromus stimulus?
Too soon?
They only need one senator to require it being read before voting. The so-called third reading.
YEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH!
/cue The Who
Where do we congregate for the start of the revolution?
I would pee my pants!
I went to GOP.com to see what was posted.
First thing I saw was “Create your own GOP valentine”.
WTH ???
There is no info dated since 02/09/09 except for Mr. Steele’s video on the bicentennial of President Abraham Lincoln’s birth and the 100th anniversary of the founding of the NAACP.
Wonder if we will ever find out what the Dems REALLY offered Collins/Snowe/Spector for their yes vote?
You know that it can’t be just some simple pork cuts based of all of the heat they have been taking from us. There just has to be something not made public.
Any guesses?
What a freakin disgrace McConnell is… If someone in the DC area could quickly assemble three or four backbones and shove them up the butts of McConnell, Specter, Collins and Snowe, that would be a great start. I thought TARP pissed me off, but Porkulus Maximus has my head ready to explode!!
I’m sick of these unctious bastards!! They pat you on the back with one hand and pick your pocket with the other… then they give you your own money back, call it a loan that you have to pay back, and try to convince you that you’re better off for their meddling.
If they could bottle that moonshine, we’d be completely off of foreign oil. To Hell with the lot of them.
Now is the time for Mr. Steele to show what he’s made of.
Collins wanted several cuts in spending, and tax cuts totaling about 94 Billion…likely so she could try claim some credibility after her vote.
According to MM’s post here, the 75 Billion in tax cuts was removed, and the 14 Billion in spending that she wanted cut, is back in the bill.
That is just what was in the excerpt at MM’s post. I haven’t seen yet what else was in there.
Again, I cannot see how she can vote in favor of the bill without showing herself to be just another greedy lib.
Don’t hold your breath. Wasn’t it the party (including rinos) that voted Steele in charge? Sometimes I think they have a deathwish.
Their not all rino’s, naturally…I’m just saying, he talks a good story, let’s see his walk now. He has to know this is his “make it or break it” moment. If he doesn’t show good solid effort to dissolve this “gang of 3″ he has to aware the money pit will continue to dry up.
My mind is desperately seeking any semblance of hope that this might get shot down.
Maybe they accidently cut out the bribes that Snowe and Collins wanted.
In any event, I won’t be watching.
Ted won’t miss out… his pork is already packaged…
Reinforced guardrails along the Chappaquiddick bridge…
How would Collins and Snowe know what was in this POS, they don’t read the bills?
I have often wondered what it would be like, knowing I wouldn’t need to work to survive. I could wake up with the certainty that the government would take care of me.
What a strange concept.
The past few months have been a true testament to the fact that there is little dignity across the aisle. Even with their success in the 2006 and 2008 elections, the Dems cannot risk the possibility of losing a single battle. So Kennedy has to be their “martyr for the people”, which I am sure they will try to portray such shameless behavior as. If there was any real belief in their cause, they would have wanted fresh blood in his seat. But, no-their’s is the party of progress and enlightenment.
Bible Thumping Obstructionist clinging to my guns and religion hoping like hell there is ONE Senator with enough balls to call for a reading.
Next, Spectre and group need to understand just how bad that electronic health care thingy is
Imagine a Democratic Presidential candidate promising to cut taxes, and within a month of taking office doing just that. And some said it couldn’t/wouldn’t be done.
Promises seem to be seldom kept by this President. Some examples being the pledge to accept only public financing in the campaign or allowing “the sunshine” of five days before signing a bill into law. Was the Ledbetter (sp?) bill such an emergency to necessitate a reaction of hours to make official?
Only if your health is okay. The government can soon decide whether you’re worth keeping alive, like Kennedy, or decide to let you die, because you’re not worth the expense. Welcome to the post-Constitution America.
Sorry, can’t resist….while it isn’t polite or classy to chortle over the upcoming demise of someone, I just have to vent a tad. I’ve read up on the kennedy family, especially teddy. He killed a woman, raped a few more, did the drugs, the booze, lying, cheating, corrupting…his overprivileged, elitist self has pretty much been above the law ever since he got kicked out of Harvard for cheating. I hope, for whatever reason, he misses the vote…and I suspect that when he passes, the bill for the crimes he committed while on this earth will be more than he can pay. I feel no sympathy for him now that he is old and infirm, certainly no more than I did for sadaam and eichmann…….
Maybe someone will get Kennedy a single-malt bottle of Scotch. He’ll be fine in a few hours. His brain cancer shouldn’t affect his reasoning ability; he never had any in the first place.
That’s easy, who had supper at the White House last night?
With thanks to FamilyMan and Mr. Melville.
Being an obstructionist is as much as we can be now. We need to get into the SOB socialists face every day. We need to be their worst nightmare. Metaphorically, we need to run our conservative blade into their belly while looking them strait into their eyes.
We will not surrender!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OT:
I guess hawking che shirts, slutty tees
and paleo scarves ain’t as profitable as it once was:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Abercrombie-amp-Fitch-4Q-apf-14351167.html
at the risk of over ex-trap-o-lay-tin
all the commielib $ going to obambi gear?
crap let that was blocked hmm hmm
okay lets try this again I went to commilib mouth so should be acceptable link.
http://www.abercrombie.com/anf/lifestyles/html/investorrelations.html
I guess selling che shirts, slutty clothes to kids and paleo scarves aint as profitable as it once was.
They should have comarketed obambi gear!
sigh I give up…
go check abercrombi earnings report
and get ready to laugh seems selling
che shirts, slutty clothes to kids and paleo scarves aint so profitable. they should have sold obambi gear!
I am not a religious man , but I know from my direct relationship with the creator, that FREEDOM is what we should experience. The rights we have been given in our laws, do not come from mans ideals, but come from the natural laws of GOD.
test test test am I blocked??
all I am trying to say is look at ambercrombie earnings anbd I keep getting blocked what the hell is going on?
Good Morning folks;
Sorry about the rants, but I’m really pissed.
Fam,
you a tad reflective today?
buck up champ it is going to be okay not the path we would have asked for but it is a path we can follow
Ambercrombie earnings
Pre-Market: 22.00 +1.30 (6.28%) Feb 13 7:48am ET
There ya go Bansharia.
Fam,
look at earnings report they lost a bundle
Fam down 68%
Thank GOD I got out of the markets a year ago. Hard assets are now the only place to hold wealth. Hyper-inflation, 15% to 30% is now a certainty. We have less than two years to get our personal finances restructured.
If you go to the website for the House Committee on Rules
H Res 168 specifies the bill is considered read when it hits the floor and only 90 minutes of debate are allowed in the House on the bill.
They have the conference report on the bill there in 4 pdf sections but it is still not in final legislative form.
Sections are crossed out in pen and modification notes are in the margins.
Some sections of the summary are even watermarked with confidential across the page.
A full clean copy likely won’t be available till later today.
Senate Rules might be different. I think they need unanimous consent to waive reading. Wasn’t that how Session stopped amnesty the first time?
As far as the 61st vote goes, Voinovich and Martinez aren’t running in 2010. Either of them might be flipped. Don’t know what the price would be for their votes, though. They could get swamped with annoying phone calls and emails and may not want that.
So far the conference report is a ghost on the Senate side. They refer you as usual to Thomas or the GPO website for most stuff and they don’t get the copies until a couple of work days after the bill action is completed.
Other places from third parties to track legislation like govtrack.us don’t even show it going to conference yet.
Comment,
Thank you for update.
can a bill be voted upon prior to final legislative form?
This strikes as all the fuss about the lands bill that was said to be ready to be voted upon when Dubya was still POTUS and ready for obambi’s signature..
UNTIL it dawned on them they can’t do that.
Once it comes back from the conference committee, it can’t be amended. I think it can be debated upon, and it takes 60 votes to end debate.
Being “obstructionists” is exactly what the Founding Fathers wanted. They never wanted to have this speed vote crap happen.
Yes, that $13 a week (might contain large rounding errors) is really going to do a lot for buying cars, houses, food, shoes, clothing, etc.
Oh, and you believe that 95% of households in the US make less than $75,000 ($150,000 per couple)? If that’s true, who are all those people with million dollar houses and yachts?
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30697
I read this and became even more furious! Is this America? Is this a democracy in which we are the example for the downtrodden and abused. NO! We are the downtrodden and the congress, being the most crooked since our nation was founded are…I can’t even express the anger I feel over Pelosi, Reid, Obama et al. I’m just furious that this is actually happening in our country.
My sources in DC say that AFTER the conference committee signed off on the final package after midnight, that some changes were still made to the package.
Now for that to happen, each member of the conference would have to be contacted about the change and give their approval for it.
IF some K street types got wind of something they did not like (and there are plenty saying that) they could do some heavy arm twisting to get the post facto changes made and approved.
As to the bill having to be in final legislative form prior to debate, not totally sure on that one.
But the current form at the House rules site sure is far from that.
As RedState posted this am at 5:30 you would have to read 1.5 pages per minute to get it read by the 9 am Friday vote debate…
Per the H Res on the rules for this bill the ONLY way it can be objected to on the floor format in the House has to do with House Rules XXI section 9 which deals with attached earmarks, there are no attached earmarks, since the entire bill is one big earmark for the most part.
Gotta love this
If you agree with the Heritage Foundations position that once additional funding under this bill is added to various programs and that you won’t be able to get the Dems to go back to prior to stimulus funding levels and that they will demand keeping the new funding levels and scream anything else is a cut you will have a total cost of this bill over it’s span of a bit more than 3 Trillion dollars.
Stuck away in the bill in section 1604 it raises the debt limit to a bit over 12 Trillion dollars.
We’ll see if Susan Collins is true to her word that she’d vote against it if the House added stuff back in. I’m not holding my breath.
According to Drudge, Nancy wants to take off for Rome and wants to shove the vote through. I would hope the need for the committee to sign off on changes (no doubt made by K Street last night) would need approval. And someone will have the backbone to refuse. It doesn’t look as if current House rules give much opportunity for stalling for a full read-through.
The current form of the bill is supposed to be all marked up with penned amendments, cross-outs, and pages with “confidential” stamped on them. (RS)
Staffers on both sides of the aisle are complaining to blogs about not having a ‘final clean copy’.
If Pelosi is going to Rome it is because she wants to attend the meeting of the G7 reps who the Timmy Treasury is going to meet with to hammer out the combined response to how to deal with this mess.
The woman is clueless as to what is really above her pay grade and thinks she is in charge and everybody else needs to kiss her rings.
Huffington Post has a post up by Soros with his grand unifying theory of the financial universe and how to fix what is broke.
Well he ought to know since he wrote the exact path to break it just like was done but back around 1970.
nail…head…
Pelosi thinks this is a monarchy and she’s the queen.
From the front page of CSPAN
House & Senate to Vote on $789B Stimulus Legislation
Today
HOUSE:
The House is debating the rules for considera-
tion on H.R. 1. A final vote is expected this afternoon.
SENATE:
According to Majority Leader Reid, final vote is planned for late afternoon or early evening.
They don’t need Kennedy. I heard there are at least three more RINOs ready to jump on the pork wagon.
Technically they are debating the H Res 168 under which the bill is going to be debated under.
The rule has to be approved first.
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx
Let’s hope the GOP has grown some stones since the last vote. If they could kill this porkulus, they’d be well on their way to resurgence.