“The Obamasburg Address”

By Michelle Malkin  •  February 12, 2009 09:07 AM

Hey, is it Lincoln’s birthday or Obama’s? Hard to tell anymore.

If you’re overdosing on all the fawning, endless Obama/Lincoln comparisons today, Bruce at MassBackwards has penned a little comic relief.

Introducing…the Obamasburg Address:

The Obamasburg Address
Washington DC
February 12, 2009

Three weeks and two days ago our community organizers and voter fraud operatives brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Socialism, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created to be subservient to their government.

Now we are engaged in a great class war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave up their individual liberty that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate — we can not consecrate — we can not hallow — this ground. The gullible voters, living and dead, who were bamboozled here, have consecrated it, far above the diminished power of the people to detract. The media will little note, nor long remember what we are actually doing here, nor will it ever admit what they did here. It is for us the powerful centralized government, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so fraudulently advanced. It is rather for us, the ones we have been waiting for, to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us — that from these uneducated, unskilled masses we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion — that we here highly resolve that these useful idiots shall not have voted, however many times, in vain — that this nation, under Me, shall have a new birth of HopenchangeTM — and that government of the lobbyists, by the politically-connected, for the career politicians, shall not perish from the earth.”

Thank you, Bruce, we needed that!

***

Gag:

President Obama has urged supporters to help the United States remain “the last, best hope of Earth.” He has ordered staff members to “think anew and act anew.” And he has assailed the “worn-out dogmas” of political ideology.

Each time, his words were reminiscent of those of Abraham Lincoln.

Obama, like so many of his predecessors, wants to link himself to one of history’s greatest presidents.

“He sees Lincoln as a model,” said Fred Kaplan, author of “Lincoln: The Biography Of A Writer.” “Obama echoes Lincoln.”

Also, as the nation’s first black president, Obama can “suggest he’s helping to complete the unfinished work of American democracy that Lincoln spoke about at Gettysburg,” said Harold Holzer, a historian and co-chair of the United States Lincoln Bicentennial Commission.

Wednesday evening, Obama honored Lincoln at a gala at Ford’s Theatre, the recently renovated hall where Lincoln was assassinated in 1865. Thursday the president will discuss Lincoln again as he travels to Springfield, Ill., for the 200th anniversary of Lincoln’s birth…

…Obama borrows Lincoln’s phrases and pacing. In June, when he clinched the Democratic nomination, Obama urged backers to see this as “the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope of Earth.”

The phrase comes not from a Lincoln speech, but from his written 1862 message to Congress, in which he urged members to continue backing the war to save the Union: “We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.”

Obama outlined his admiration for Lincoln in a 2005 essay for Time magazine. He cited Lincoln’s “humble beginnings,” as well as his “rise from poverty, his ultimate mastery of language and law, his capacity to overcome personal loss and remain determined in the face of repeated defeat.”

Obama’s Lincoln-mania has drawn critics over the years.

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  1. #1
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:14 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Sorry Mr. Lincoln, but they did all die in vain.

    HopenchangeTM = We are so screwed.

  2. #2
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:17 am, jangar said:

    Sincerely,

    President Fidel Hussein Ocastro

  3. #3
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:17 am, FuriousMob said:

    I loved the little thing in the bottom right corner on CNN this morning: “From Lincoln to Obama”. What an insult to one of freedom’s best men.

  4. #4
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:22 am, Misscheryl said:

    If Lincoln only knew….

  5. #5
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:25 am, sonofdy said:

    Lincoln has been shot again.

  6. #6
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:28 am, jangar said:

    Obama honored Lincoln at a gala at Ford’s Theatre

    Obama peeing on hallowed ground.

  7. #7
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:30 am, thetoysurgeon said:

    Does the messiah know that Lincoln was a Republican? or he planned to send all slaves to Liberia? How can Lincoln not be a racist? If Obama needs a civil war to bring himself up to snuff with Lincoln, that can be arranged. Might be here sooner than you think.

    Everyone needs to check on the stimulus package deeming all interstates highways in the US as national parks and therefore you cannot have in your possession any guns.

  8. #8
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:31 am, JDinTX said:

    Great work Bruce. Too bad this is the way the Socialist Prez really feels and how we all are going to suffer.

  9. #9
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:32 am, ajmontana said:

    Comparing Odopey to Lincoln is like comparing Filet Mignon to Haggis.

  10. #10
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:34 am, jangar said:

    Everyone needs to check on the stimulus package deeming all interstates highways in the US as national parks and therefore you cannot have in your possession any guns.

    Yeah, there’s a lot of crap in that bill aimed at destroying the Constitution…all of it.

  11. #11
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:36 am, Milwaukee Mike said:

    It’s Lincoln’s 200th birthday!

    On Google’s header, the artwork celebrates Darwin’s 200th birthday.

    Just had to mention it.

  12. #12
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:37 am, no2pcbs1 said:

    Comparing a wannabe like obama to President Lincoln a truly great man is laugable. It’s like comparing a bicycle to a Rolls Royce, no contest.

  13. #13
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:39 am, sonofdy said:

    I wonder how many people understand that lincoln would have gladly kept slavery if it had saved the union???

  14. #14
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:39 am, iamsaved said:

    If the Ghosts of Inaugerations Past could speak, I can just see Lincoln wringing his hands lamenting “Oh what have I wrought? The Civil War just delayed the division of this great country 150 years. All those lives lost for what? This Obamanation?”

  15. #15
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:39 am, Misscheryl said:

    It’s Darwin’s birthday too, why no comparisons?

  16. #16
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:40 am, Misscheryl said:

    Ooopsss – Sorry Mike, I didn’t see your post.

  17. #17
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:45 am, ajmontana said:

    If Odopey is so impressed by Lincoln why is he a Democrap?

  18. #18
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:45 am, Misscheryl said:

    It seems Obama is honoring everyone. To celebrate Darwin’s birthday, he will be making a speech in front of the monkey cage at the Chicago zoo.

  19. #19
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:47 am, jangar said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:45 am, Misscheryl said:
    It seems Obama is honoring everyone. To celebrate Darwin’s birthday, he will be making a speech in front of the monkey cage at the Chicago zoo.

    Fitting.

  20. #20
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:48 am, granite said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:36 am, Milwaukee Mike said:

    It’s Lincoln’s 200th birthday!

    On Google’s header, the artwork celebrates Darwin’s 200th birthday.

    Just had to mention it.

    Not the least bit surprised.

  21. #21
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:48 am, hrobusto said:

    Like Obama, Lincoln was not a true believer in anything other than government power. He did not want to free the slaves, and indeed did not free any slaves in the Union(and they did exist)…only outlawed the practice in the South, which he did not control at the time. He did it to label plantation owners lawbreakers and the average Southerner a supporter of slavery so it would be easier to justify going to war to keep the South from seceding. The enemies list Obama is working on is made up of Republicans, conservatives, constitutionalists,talk radio, free marketers, the wealthy, CEOs…even Jessica Simpson! He has chosen Pakistan’s favor over India’s and has only chided Israel, not defended her. This is truly change…we can believe in it…but will we survive it?

  22. #22
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:48 am, ajmontana said:

    lol misscheryl, you mean Congress?

  23. #23
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:48 am, happyscrapper said:

    Everyone needs to check on the stimulus package deeming all interstates highways in the US as national parks and therefore you cannot have in your possession any guns.

    Your’re kidding, right? I mean, nothing would surprise me, but this can’t possibly be real.

  24. #24
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:48 am, Flyoverman said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:14 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:
    Sorry Mr. Lincoln, but they did all die in vain.

    I want to state that I am FED UP with all of the defeatist attitudes out here.

    Neanderthal, if you believe the CRAP you wrote then you go to Gettysburg, stand in front of those soldiers graves and tell THEM that.

    Lincoln said, “It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us — that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion – that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain —

    Those soldiers will only have died in vain when WE quit. And the last time I check I had a pulse. So if you can’t hack it, pack it and leave to the people still willing to be in the fight!

  25. #25
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:49 am, FamilyMan said:

    I knew Jack Kennedy; Abe Lincoln. Jack KennedyAbe Lincoln was a friend of mine. Senator, you’re no Jack Abe.

  26. #26
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:53 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    President Obama has urged supporters to help the United States remain “the last, best hope of Earth.” He has ordered staff members to “think anew and act anew.” And he has assailed the “worn-out dogmas” of political ideology.

    Sorry but that right there is funny. Ordered? Shouldn’t BHo set the example first? Oh, NEVERMIND…

  27. #27
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:55 am, Chief RZ said:

    These people plagiarize just about everything starting with Mickey King.

  28. #28
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:57 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Here’s something. Having noticed that the horses are missing, Michael Steele has officially closed the barn door.

    http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2009/02/opposing-view-1.html

  29. #29
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:57 am, pianoman said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:39 am, Misscheryl said:

    It’s Darwin’s birthday too, why no comparisons?

    General Boy: In the past this information has been suppressed, but now it can be told. Every man, woman, and mutant on this planet shall know the truth about de-evolution.

    Booji: Oh Dad, we’re ALL Devo!

    Great band, way ahead of their time.

  30. #30
    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:58 am, jjmurphy said:

    Flyoverman – Relax a bit. People come here to vent and release some of the anxiety they feel. We are bombarded every day by unrelenting waves of bad news. You have to have a “safe place” to let some of the depression out.

    I would bet almost everyone agrees that you don’t give up the fight. But there is no need to jump down the throats of your “allies” in this fight.

  31. #31
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:00 am, Misscheryl said:

    General Boy: In the past this information has been suppressed, but now it can be told. Every man, woman, and mutant on this planet shall know the truth about de-evolution.

    Booji: Oh Dad, we’re ALL Devo!

    Great band, way ahead of their time.

    ok..that was over my head..

  32. #32
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:02 am, jjmurphy said:

    Pasadena Phil – Read the linked opinion piece by Steele. Don’t see any “fire in the belly” from him. Reads like a “can’t we all just get along” type of letter.

  33. #33
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:04 am, Laree said:
  34. #34
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:11 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    jjmurphy: At best. I see it as posturing after the fact. He should have been kicking butt while the battle was on. Anybody can stand on the dead bodies and make speeches. Steele is just like all of the GOP candidates who stood by and watched while the amnesty bill battles were in high gear. Any one of them, particularly Romney and Thompson, could have seized the nomination had they jumped in. They waited for events to pass which is not the trademark of a leader. Leaders don’t watch events, they shape them .

  35. #35
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:11 am, FruNobulux said:

    What a poseur. Lincoln actually accomplished something. O’Boingo is a cartoon-like veneer with all the depth of a character on a TV sit-com. This dimwit has never had a real job in his life, and his incoherent answers to even planted questions at his farcical so-called press conferences demonstrate a disordered thinking process and a failure to grasp the significant elements of even basic economics. Even law (as betrayed by his egregious misunderstanding of the law with respect to the Cole bombers) appears to be too hard for this bogus “constitutional law professor”.

  36. #36
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:15 am, jangar said:

    “constitutional law professor”.

    Like, whose constitution anyway…not ours

  37. #37
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:18 am, pianoman said:

    MissCheryl, that was a reference to the band Devo and a video they did in the late 70s called The Truth about De-Evolution”. Their whole origin was a theory that man is actually regressing rather than evolving. Kind of a put-on, but entertaining. It seemed relevant to the Darwin birthday and the fact that PBO and his minions are leading us backwards towards destruction.

    Of course, that may have been only in my twisted brain! :)

  38. #38
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:19 am, BobK said:

    Obamarama has more in common with Lenin and Marx than he does with Lincoln.

  39. #39
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:20 am, FruNobulux said:

    The Truth about De-Evolution

    See the video then compare and contrast to Al Franken.

  40. #40
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:21 am, maisy said:

    I’ve always been proud to share my birthday with Honest Abe!
    I didn’t free the slaves but I DID free my ex-husband!!!

  41. #41
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:24 am, happyscrapper said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:30 am, thetoysurgeon said:
    Everyone needs to check on the stimulus package deeming all interstates highways in the US as national parks and therefore you cannot have in your possession any guns.

    You did not put a sarc tag on this, yet no one is commenting on it! Am I being really gullible to believe this could actually be true? Someone, please comment. If this was posted as a joke, it is not the least bit funny. We know the libs are sneaking things into this bill. So please tell me this isn’t true.

  42. #42
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:28 am, sonofdy said:

    happyscrapper, no idea.

  43. #43
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:29 am, jamesgreenidge said:

    on On February 12th, 2009 at 9:48 am, happyscrapper said:

    Everyone needs to check the stimulus package deeming all interstates highways in the US as national parks and therefore you cannot have in your possession any guns.

    Your’re kidding, right? I mean, nothing would surprise me, but this can’t possibly be real.

    It’s credible enough. I think some already are default bird corridor sanctuaries, and worst, here in New York State there’s a proposal to line IS 87 and others here with windmills (the whales of the energy industry) no less. Nothing’s too off the wall for the Green crowd — make that thugs.

    James Greenidge
    Queens, NY

  44. #44
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:29 am, EdDantes said:

    President Lincoln held office hours where any American could speak his/her mind.

    Obama holds forums where he plants Americans and doesn’t take questions from people whose views differ from his.

  45. #45
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:31 am, Misscheryl said:

    pianoman said:

    Aahh, I see. Makes perfect sense now!

  46. #46
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:34 am, happyscrapper said:

    We’re talking about big time gun control here..if no guns can be transported on any Interstate Highway…where is the NRA??? You must realize what this means. I mean, this is extremely serious! Doesn’t anyone else see this? Am I overreacting?

  47. #47
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:41 am, Kevin from Ohio in Virginia said:

    I first developed a love for my country because it honors the freedoms which were bestowed upon me by God Himself. The fact that it honors those freedoms fuels my continuing love for my country.

    I will not sit still while these freedoms are no longer honored. They are being slowly taken from us, one by one. Soon many of our fellow Americans will be just like today’s western Europeans – unwitting slaves to every whim of the nanny state.

    These freedoms are not the government’s to take. The government exists because we allow it to exist; it’s not the other way around.

    Are you with me? Call and write your representatives and senators. Repeatedly. Vote them out of office. Run for office yourself! DO SOMETHING!

    Sadly, I think many of us became politically complacent during the Bush administration, and the result is the government we now have. We can’t let this happen again. We have to start working toward 2010 now.

  48. #48
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:41 am, jjmurphy said:

    We’re talking about big time gun control here..if no guns can be transported on any Interstate Highway

    I took one of my rifles with me to from NC to ME by car this past summer. I checked the “rules of the road” before I left and was amazed by the potential landmines that CURRENTLY exist when transporting your own firearms. This includes all firearms. You can get in some serious trouble if you are stopped for ANY reason.

    The big risk at the moment is the individual state and city laws in the jurisdictions you drive through, particularly if you have ammo AND the firearm in the same car. I decided to just bring the rifle and buy ammo in Maine.

    The NRA site had some pretty good info on the topic, but it was still pretty frightening that it is so hard to take your own firearms with you on a trip.

  49. #49
    On February 12th, 2009 at 10:51 am, tiredofit08 said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:28 am, jangar said:

    Obama honored Lincoln at a gala at Ford’s Theatre

    Obama peeing on hallowed ground.

    you mean something like this…

    http://www.mikechurch.com/joomla/images/stories/obama/obama_peeing_sm.jpg

  50. #50
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:05 am, FruNobulux said:

    I emailed the NRA about the national parks/interstate highways thing and got this reply:

    Thanks for contacting NRA-ILA. As of right now the Stimulus Bill does not contain anything that would impact the 2nd Amendment. We will keep our members notified at http://www.nraila.org.

    Please let us know if you have further questions or concerns, and as always, we appreciate your support!

    Sincerely,

    Krista Cupp
    NRA-ILA Grassroots Division

  51. #51
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:14 am, swmntman said:

    Kevin from Ohio said: I first developed a love for my country because it honors the freedoms which were bestowed upon me by God Himself.

    These freedoms are not the government’s to take.

    …beautifully put and DIRECTLY at the heart of what is going on.

  52. #52
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:15 am, karnold said:

    I’m not so surprised that Obama would keep comparing himself to Mr. Lincoln – in fact, I have no doubts that many of the honored dead from the battle voted for Obama last November…

  53. #53
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:15 am, wighttrasch said:

    aj, as someone of Scottish descent, I take offense at the ‘haggis’ remark. Unless, of course, you meant the icky food to be the filet mignon—–then all is forgiven.

  54. #54
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:22 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    The Obamaniacs should be careful with the Lincoln comparisons, his election ushered in the first Civil War…………………..

  55. #55
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:27 am, swede said:

    Hey, Mr Savior sir, you aught to take note and long remember that Lincoln was…a…REPUBLICAN!

    Seems appropriate and ironic that he speaks in Ford’s Theatre, where Lincoln was killed, as he murders our society.

  56. #56
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:28 am, cheapseat said:

    mr obama has morphed himself into mr lincoln because they both are from illinois. but lincoln was a republican who freed the black slaves of america, and obama is a democrat who is enslaving blacks and minorities into a life of meniality and drudgery working for the gubmint. btw, to all my jewish democrats, hows that working out for you? banks are being villified, israel is being told it can’t count on us when attacked, and the successful are being gouged to pay for the acorn class and illegal aliens. jews in israel thank you.

  57. #57
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:35 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    Possibly we could chisel off Lincoln’s face from Mount Rushmore and replace it with President Obama’s instead. Why wait for real accomplishments–do it now!
    ***
    President Lincoln was the second best president in my calculations. He had a very difficult job–to try to keep our country intact while fighting a civil war. He had to be pretty tricky to get what he wanted.
    ***
    The best president to me seems to be George Washington. A lot of this is due to his iron will to give us a decent country. First as the war leader, and later as one of the main forces behind our Constitution. He risked his life and fortune for this.
    ***
    Jimmy Carter seems to be the worst president (and ex president) I can remember or read about. Clueless as to the main job of a president–to defend our people against all enemies foreign and domestic. Bad on economic matters, and schmoozing with our enemies and bad mouthing our country incessantly as an ex president.
    ***
    I may change my mind about who the worst president is in a few years. President Barack Obama (aka Jimmy Carter II) will show us what bad really looks like soon.
    ***
    As far as walking in President Lincoln’s steps–I would stay out of Ford’s Theater if I were the Messiah. I don’t like Obama–but I wish him a long and happy life.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  58. #58
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:39 am, frostrt said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:36 am, Milwaukee Mike said:
    It’s Lincoln’s 200th birthday!

    On Google’s header, the artwork celebrates Darwin’s 200th birthday.

    Just had to mention it.

    ————————————–

    I noticed that as well.

    Can’t say I’m surprised whose birthday they deemed to be more important.

    Newsflash Google: Darwin isn’t the reason the banks and post offices and schools will be closed on Monday.

  59. #59
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:42 am, hrobusto said:

    Virginia Patriot said:
    The Obamaniacs should be careful with the Lincoln comparisons, his election ushered in the first Civil War…………………..

    My Virginian ancestors lived in the Shenandoah Valley and farmed all their lives (they were Brethrens and did not believe in slavery). They wanted to stay out of the war, and none of our men joined the CSA until the Imperial Federal Government sent troops into the Valley to rape, kill, pillage and burn them out. Some fled to what is now West Virginia only to be greeted by Federal troops who manned the ballot boxes during Lincoln’s reelection to make sure they voted correctly. After the war some returned to the Valley to rebuild and were still persecuted by an overbearing and vengeful Federal government. What is happening now began then, and only when the power of Federal government is restrained will we be free. The sovreignty of the states held it back before 1861. Once “States’ Rights” was criminalized the People lost their ability to control their government. I fear for the future, for as a Southerner I have heard the stories all my life of the damage one man peddling “Change” was able to inflict upon the land and the People.

  60. #60
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:52 am, granite said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:42 am, hrobusto said:

    So, the Jimmy Stewart movie “Shenandoah” has significant basis in fact after all….

  61. #61
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:54 am, happyscrapper said:

    Obama honored Lincoln at a gala at Ford’s Theatre

    Yes, while Oklahoma has 8 dead and an entire town demolished, and Kentucky is still reeling from the ice storms, our great one, Nero Obama fiddles away at a GALA at Ford’s Theatre. Has anyone heard him address the problems in middle America? Or have we disappeared from his radar? Folks, if you are a Red State, consider yourself invisible.

  62. #62
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:55 am, wighttrasch said:

    My Virginian ancestors lived in the Shenandoah Valley

    hrobusto:
    Winchester? Front Royal? Berryville?

    further south?

    I lived out there, just wanted to know…

  63. #63
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:56 am, hrobusto said:

    granite said:

    Believe it or not, “Shenandoah” is one movie I have never seen…hehe. I prefer my history to come from books and family folklore.

  64. #64
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:56 am, happyscrapper said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:05 am, FruNobulux said:
    I emailed the NRA about the national parks/interstate highways thing and got this reply:

    Thanks for contacting NRA-ILA. As of right now the Stimulus Bill does not contain anything that would impact the 2nd Amendment. We will keep our members notified at http://www.nraila.org.

    Please let us know if you have further questions or concerns, and as always, we appreciate your support!

    Sincerely,

    Krista Cupp
    NRA-ILA Grassroots Division

    Fru…Thanks for checking that out!! I feel better. Not a lot better, but better!

  65. #65
    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:59 am, hrobusto said:

    My family’s farm is in Staunton.

  66. #66
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:01 pm, happyscrapper said:

    So, the Jimmy Stewart movie “Shenandoah” has significant basis in fact after all….

    I loved that movie…cried like a baby. I will have to dig it out from Blockbusters and sit through it again. Jimmy Stewart was a true Patriot!

  67. #67
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:01 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Flyoverman said:
    Neanderthal, if you believe the CRAP you wrote then you go to Gettysburg, stand in front of those soldiers graves and tell THEM that.

    Sorry, never mean to insult our own but I have been to Gettysburg and most of the other Civil War and Revolutionary Battle Fields. I was always proud of those great men who gave so much to give us this nation and to keep it-yes even the Colored Regiments as they were called then.

    But Mr. Lincoln’s House IS divided against it’s self- a divide of Race and Ideology that I do not believe can be breached. Our Great Constitution is being taken apart and discarded, our History is ignored or lied about.

    Sorry Flyoverman I do not wish to offend but I have at least some idea of what those great men at Gettysburg went through–I served two tours in Viet Nam including the 68 Tet Offensive and A Shau Valley and have seen battle, terrible battle. That war was most certainly fought in vain. The Fall of Saigon on April 30, 1975 was a dark day for me and mine.

    And those American traitors who cheered the fall are now in control of the White House, both Houses of Congress, the Media, Academia and elsewhere. Much of my own family disowns me for my views on illegal immigration, the Black community is becoming more like Reverend Jeremiah Wright than less.

    that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion – that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain —

    Stirring words to be sure. But this country chose another path not I. Those men who died in all those terrible battles did not fight for a Constitution and Union of “Negative Rights”, to surrender their rights as freemen to some esoteric Grievance Industry, to be called Dead White Racist or to be Citizens of the World.

    Yes I will continue to be involved in the Political process and work to take back my country. I HAVE voted the last time for the Lesser of Two Evils for it is the Evil of Two Lessers. And I have surrendered all the Rights and Autonomy I will.Defeatist? We shall see, perhaps other actions shall become necessary.

    Remember Ruby Ridge.

  68. #68
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:05 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:56 am, hrobusto said:
    Believe it or not, “Shenandoah” is one movie I have never seen…hehe. I prefer my history to come from books and family folklore.

    Don’t worry…it is fiction and, unlike the movies of today doesn’t try to pass itself off as historical fact. They generally didn’t do that back when Hollywood actually had morals and principles. Today…not so much. Just view the movie knowing it is based on fact, but ficionalized and enjoy it. You will be glad you did.

  69. #69
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:07 pm, RogerCfromSD said:

    How embarrassing for Obama. He hasn’t accomplished anything and he desperately wants to be compared to Kennedy, Lincoln, and FDR.

    How about being a leader first, getting things done for the country, and being yourself?

  70. #70
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:07 pm, granite said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 11:56 am, hrobusto said:

    Believe it or not, “Shenandoah” is one movie I have never seen…hehe. I prefer my history to come from books and family folklore.

    I’ve only seen bits and snatches of it now and then. Never watched the whole thing.

  71. #71
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:58 am, jjmurphy said:
    Flyoverman – Relax a bit.

    I would bet almost everyone agrees that you don’t give up the fight. But there is no need to jump down the throats of your “allies” in this fight.

    Denny Fitch the 4th pilot who came forward from the passenger cabin and knelt in between the pilots and ran the rottles of the UA aurliner that crash landed in Sioux City, IA in 1989 said, “Your attitude determines our altitude.”

    We aren’t authorized to be depressed. I am tired of everyone commenting on what they are doing to us exclusively. We need to spend our time thinking about what we intend to do to them!

    And commenting on guns, passports, going to the hills is just nonsense. Waste of time and space.

  72. #72
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 9:30 am, thetoysurgeon said:
    Everyone needs to check on the stimulus package deeming all interstates highways in the US as national parks and therefore you cannot have in your possession any guns.

    Just curious, thetoysurgeon…why did you write that post? It isn’t true. Where do you get your “facts”? Please site some source of your information. Apparently the NRA is not concerned, and if this was true, they WOULD be, big time. I just don’t like these rumors put out there without substantiation.

  73. #73
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:15 pm, iamsaved said:

    Someone asked about the highways becoming national parks in order to implememt gun control.

    That may not be in the works right now but it is progressively getting to that point if you read this link.

  74. #74
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:16 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    A note to those fearing an impending attack on gun rights. The word I am getting is that pushing for gun control is considered by the Dem leaders to be a pointlessly foolish exercise. I even saw a quote from Barney Frank recently defending NY’s newly-appointed Democrat senator for being a life-long NRA member arguing that there is plenty of room in the party for responsible gun owners. The lesson from Gore losing to Bush because he lost his home state over gun rights was not lost on these guys.

    Everyone’s got bigger fish to fry. Gun ownership is not exclusive to Republican voters. For now, we are probably safe but who knows.

  75. #75
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:18 pm, DanVanSmak said:

    Geez, and I thought *Joe Biden* was the plagiarizer…oh well.

    *out*

  76. #76
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:19 pm, granite said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, Flyoverman said:

    I am tired of everyone commenting on what they are doing to us exclusively. We need to spend our time thinking about what we intend to do to them!

    Excellent point.

    Sort of the way U.S. Grant scolded his generals who were whining about what “Bobby Lee” was doing to them.

  77. #77
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:37 pm, American Elephant said:

    The ONLY thing Obama might end up having in common with Abraham Lincoln, is that during parts of the war, Lincoln was almost certainly even more unpopular than Bush.

    He also compared himself to Reagan during the campaign.

    The comparison to FDR is much more accurate, but only in terms of the socialist policies.

    The most accurate comparison so far remains Jimmy Carter.

  78. #78
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:37 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Civil War is one of the paths from stage 3 to stage 4 in the Soviet process of Ideological Subversion. (The other path is invasion by a Communist power, but that is not likely in this country).

    I don’t really want to say this, but I believe Obama fully intends to lead this country into Civil War. You can already see signs of this.

    I believe Obama sees himself as a Civil War President. Those who fight to support and defend our Constitution will battle those who fight to “Change it, Rearrange it”. I believe Obama sees himself as the “dear leader” who will bring about Communist “Normalization”.

    Watch this (skip ahead to 4:00 if you must)
    “Sleepers Emerge and Messiah Appears”

  79. #79
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:48 pm, nail49 said:

    a speech in front of to the monkeys cage at the Chicago zoo

    Misscheryl: He will be speaking to the adoring press after all.

  80. #80
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:50 pm, Misscheryl said:

    Fly said: We aren’t authorized to be depressed. I am tired of everyone commenting on what they are doing to us exclusively. We need to spend our time thinking about what we intend to do to them!

    D.I.T.T.O.!!!

  81. #81
    On February 12th, 2009 at 12:51 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Bailout Bill Poses Threat to Gun Owners: …Of particular concern to gun owners are sections 13101 through 13434 of HR 1, which would set up the infrastructure to computerize the medical records of ALL AMERICANS in a government-coordinated database. True, the bill doesn’t mandate that the data will be in a giant computer under the Oval Office. But it does mandate that your medical records be reduced to a computerized form which is available to it in a second. This it would do by establishing a National Coordinator for Health Information Technology – tasked with, among other things, “providing information to help guide medical decisions at the time and place of care.” It should be scary enough that a government bureaucrat is directed by statute to try to influence your doctor’s decisions with respect to your medical care. But of even greater concern to gun owners is the fact that a government-coordinated database (which government can freely access) will now contain all records of government-provided and private psychiatric treatment – including, in particular, the drugs which were prescribed. Remember last year’s “NICS Improvement Act” otherwise known as the Veterans Disarmament Act? This law codified ATF’s attempts to make you a prohibited person on the basis of a government psychiatrist’s finding that you are a “danger” –without a finding by any court. Well, roughly 150,000 battle-scarred veterans have already been unfairly stripped of their gun rights by the government…

    http://gunowners.org/a021109.htm

  82. #82
    On February 12th, 2009 at 1:16 pm, Laree said:

    Obama’s celebrating Lincoln’s birthday today, he knows that Lincoln was a Republican right?

    http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/02/buffalo-soldiers-fort-missoula-montana.html

  83. #83
    On February 12th, 2009 at 1:33 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    Too bad Obama’s fate didn’t end like Lincolns.

    We would be better off with idiot Biden.

  84. #84
    On February 12th, 2009 at 1:34 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    And you are correct Flyoverman: defeatism and depression are as much as enemy as the Left. Just knock me about the head and shoulders a bit and I do recover–sort of a primitive re-boot.

  85. #85
    On February 12th, 2009 at 1:35 pm, jjmurphy said:

    Flyoverman said:

    We aren’t authorized to be depressed. I am tired of everyone commenting on what they are doing to us exclusively.

    I like it and don’t disagree. I am not giving up, ever. I just have a different manner of encouraging people to stay in the fight. Your method works on some people, mine on others. Both are useful tools to have in the shed.

  86. #86
    On February 12th, 2009 at 1:40 pm, Kevin from Ohio in Virginia said:

    Mercy4Me,

    It’s NEVER appropriate to wish ill on anyone. Don’t allow yourself to stoop to the level of the left-wing BDS crowd. Please be adult enough to retract your foolish remark.

  87. #87
    On February 12th, 2009 at 1:43 pm, alamb said:

    Obama has nothing in common with African Americans despite being half cast (UK term for people half white half black). He has no connection to the African American experience in this country. His father was a foreign student from Kenya, that’s all – and he was brought up rather as a privileged kid actually . Where is his African American ancestry to connect him to Lincoln? This is MSM mythology and sycophant horse manure!

  88. #88
    On February 12th, 2009 at 1:57 pm, frostrt said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 1:40 pm, Kevin from Ohio in Virginia said:
    Mercy4Me,

    It’s NEVER appropriate to wish ill on anyone. Don’t allow yourself to stoop to the level of the left-wing BDS crowd. Please be adult enough to retract your foolish remark.

    ————————————–

    Ditto. Calling for the assassination of a sitting President is, in addition to being morally repugnant, a potential Federal offence.

    Wish that President Obama’s more leftist policies will fail before they begin, but do not wish him – or any other human being – dead.

  89. #89
    On February 12th, 2009 at 2:21 pm, granite said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 1:57 pm, frostrt said:

    Ditto.

  90. #90
    On February 12th, 2009 at 2:24 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    frostrt:
    I agree that we should never suggest any harm come to the current occupant of the Oval Office, however, your statement about ANY human is overly broad, imho. There are quite a few followers of the religion of pieces that I would like to see reach room temperature, before they can do harm to others.

  91. #91
    On February 12th, 2009 at 2:29 pm, frostrt said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 2:24 pm, Virginia Patriot said:
    frostrt:
    I agree that we should never suggest any harm come to the current occupant of the Oval Office, however, your statement about ANY human is overly broad, imho. There are quite a few followers of the religion of pieces that I would like to see reach room temperature, before they can do harm to others.

    ————————————

    To clarify: I was referring to the malicious wish of death on another person (i.e., President Obama because of objections to the way he’s running the country).

    Being willing to harm/kill another when you are in a kill-or-be-killed kind of situation is a whole ‘nother thing. Islamic extremists and anyone else who wishes to attack us need to be locked up and, if need be, killed to stop them from hurting anyone.

  92. #92
    On February 12th, 2009 at 2:40 pm, Kevin from Ohio in Virginia said:

    Thanks, Virginia Patriot. You are correct. I support the hunting and killing of terrorists.

    However, I still stand waiting for Mercy4Me to retract his or her statement.

  93. #93
    On February 12th, 2009 at 2:43 pm, MtsEdge said:

    If Obama needs a civil war to bring himself up to snuff with Lincoln, that can be arranged.

    The Obamaniacs should be careful with the Lincoln comparisons, his election ushered in the first Civil War…………………..

    The Dems are ripening the country for another battle for state’s rights.

    I first developed a love for my country because it honors the freedoms which were bestowed upon me by God Himself.

    Kevin, well said.

  94. #94
    On February 12th, 2009 at 3:14 pm, maisy said:

    If guns are disallowed on highways only illegal aliens will have guns….maybe that’s the idea????

  95. #95
    On February 12th, 2009 at 5:06 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    TO BAD if your offended but thats how I FEEL. it may not be aaaaaaaaaapppppprrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrropriate to say that but thats how I FEEL. Ban me from this site but THAT’S HOW I FEEL!

    Yeah I said IT, CAUSE THATS’S HOW I FEEL.

    THIS MAN IS VERY DANGEROUS.

  96. #96
    On February 12th, 2009 at 6:01 pm, Salt said:

    On February 12th, 2009 at 5:06 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    TO BAD if your offended but thats how I FEEL. it may not be aaaaaaaaaapppppprrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrropriate to say that but thats how I FEEL. Ban me from this site but THAT’S HOW I FEEL!

    Yeah I said IT, CAUSE THATS’S HOW I FEEL.

    THIS MAN IS VERY DANGEROUS.

    This sounds like an argument someone from Code Pink would make.

    It’s ridiculous when liberal commenters come on here and tell us how they feel without making any real point to the discussion.

    It doesn’t offend us because we disagree with your sentiment. It lowers the standard and gives the trolls something with which to stereotype conservatives as wanting Pres. Obama dead. I would wager you thought the Pres. Bush assassination chic that was all the rage for radicals was ridiculous, right?

    Or, is it all okay because that’s HOW THEY FEEEEEL?

  97. #97
    On February 12th, 2009 at 7:26 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    The consequences are high. I am probably more conservative than your pinkie.

    I know that the wacko-left wished Bush dead, and they have every right to wish that. I disagreed with them, but they can wish. They killed Bushes character and you might as well put a bullet in a man than kill his character.

    I’m through with you trolls telling me I can’t “feel” the way I want to. Next you will be telling me I shouldn’t have a corporate jet to fly around in.

    I want him defeated in all ways. He is dangerous to the whole world.

  98. #98
    On February 12th, 2009 at 7:33 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    Kevin from Ohio in Virginia said:

    These freedoms are not the government’s to take. The government exists because we allow it to exist; it’s not the other way around.

    Are you with me? Call and write your representatives and senators. Repeatedly. Vote them out of office. Run for office yourself! DO SOMETHING!

    THEY AREN’T LISTENING. IT 99 TO 1 TO VOTE NO ON THE PORKULUS AND YET THEY VOTE YES.
    WE MUST GET OFF OUR ASSES AWAY FROM THE BLOGS AND GRAB OUR GUNS AND MARCH ON DC. TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK. THE CONSTITUTION TELLS US THAT WHEN THE GOVERNMENT BECOMES THE PROBLEM ITS THE DUTY OF THE PEOPLE TO GET RID OF IT.
    I’M READY, WAY READY TO STAND SHOULDER TO SHOULDER TO ANYONE WHO “FEELS” THE SAME TO SAVE OUR REPUBLIC!

  99. #99
    On February 12th, 2009 at 8:08 pm, StandardDeviation said:

    Anyone else notice CNN’s fit over his use of the name “Macbeth” in his speech.

  100. #100
    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:28 am, Kevin from Ohio in Virginia said:

    Hey, Mercy4Me. Get help. Now. Seriously.

    You have written not-so-eloquently about your wish for the violent death of the President and how we need to “GRAB OUR GUNS AND MARCH ON DC.” This country is great because we don’t have to do that. All we have to do is vote them out. We voted them in, so we have to deal with it for 2, 4, or 6 years, depending upon whom we are addressing.

    Also, it’s the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution, that says, “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.” The Declaration of Independence was just that. A declaration from one group of people to another. I believe it, I love it, but one must acknowledge that it is not a document that creates or establishes any type of law. It’s not a legal document of any kind, actually.

    That said, you’re ignoring the first step in the very phrase you quoted. The first choice offered is to alter the government. I think you’ll agree that for a couple of centuries we had a pretty good thing going. There is no need to abolish this government and start over. You’d be throwing the baby out with the bath water! We can work for REAL change to begin in 2010 by electing a new Congress.

    Our job as faithful citizens is to vehemently oppose the ideas of elected leaders which contradict those ideals expressed in the Declaration of Independence upon which this country was founded. We must point out to anyone who will listen when they ignore the Constitution to advance their political agenda. We live in an age where we can still revolt with our votes and with our political activism. Our weapons are not necessary. The real power still lies with We the People.

    I’m starting to think you’re a liberal troll who’s trying to stir up trouble and get others to say stupid things. That doesn’t work on this side of the aisle. We love our country.

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