Friday the 13th open thread

By Michelle Malkin  •  February 13, 2009 09:18 AM

What a fitting day to pass the Generational Theft Act, eh?

Obama’s presidency so far has been the Friday the 13th presidency. Every day brings bad luck. Richardson, Daschle, Gregg. Who’s next in line? (Rossputin translates Gregg’s withdrawal statement here.)

Are you very superstitious? Feel free to sound off.

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How about some Stevie Wonder?

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  1. #1
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:22 am, frostrt said:

    First off, on a serious note, prayers for the plane crash victims and their families.

    Second, here’s hoping that the Generational Theft Act somehow DOESN’T pass; that would make today a LUCKY day.

    Third, a slightly early Happy Valentine’s to MM and all my fellow posters. Enjoy some time with the ones you love, whoever they are.

  2. #2
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:25 am, Paul Revere said:

    Socialism is like Jason. It never dies.

  3. #3
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:26 am, Misscheryl said:

    I wish it was just a movie or a dream and we would wake up from this nightmare on Elm street, USSA.

  4. #4
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:26 am, davidjamesduprey said:

    We should lock Jason in the US Senate chamber and watch the carnage on C-SPAN!

    Now that’s reality TV!

  5. #5
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:28 am, davidjamesduprey said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:26 am, Misscheryl said:
    I wish it was just a movie or a dream and we would wake up from this nightmare on Elm street, USSA.

    Nightmare on Elm Street is Freddy Krueger.

  6. #6
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:28 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:25 am, Paul Revere said:
    Socialism is like Jason. It never dies.

    ————————————–

    And always fails; something the socialists never learn.

  7. #7
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:31 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:26 am, Misscheryl said:
    I wish it was just a movie or a dream and we would wake up from this nightmare on Elm street, USSA.

    ————————————–

    I, for one, believe there is Someone more powerful than any President or government can ever be. I trust in that Someone.

  8. #8
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:32 am, Misscheryl said:

    Nightmare on Elm Street is Freddy Krueger.

    Blood, guts and gore…alls the same to me. Happy Friday the 13th

  9. #9
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:33 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:32 am, Misscheryl said:
    Nightmare on Elm Street is Freddy Krueger.
    Blood, guts and gore…alls the same to me. Happy Friday the 13th

    ————————————–

    Do I have a fellow horror fan in the house? :)

  10. #10
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:36 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    How about “Nightmare from K Street”

    This bill is worse than any horror movie ever made.

    Even though the college kids like to sport Che shirts, I still doubt that they were voting for Communism when they voted for “CHANGE”.

    And there is no “HOPE” in Communist countries.

  11. #11
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:36 am, Avi Green said:

    Here’s a post I wrote on my game blog with 2 recordings of Cosmo Gang, the Video and the Puzzle.

  12. #12
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:37 am, davidjamesduprey said:

    Freddy vs. Jason
    Communism vs. Socialism
    Hitler vs. Stalin
    Obama vs. McCain

    No matter who wins, we get screwed!

  13. #13
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:39 am, Insomniac said:

    Nightmare on Crystal Lake Street!

  14. #14
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:39 am, Misscheryl said:

    I don’t watch those movies frosrt and that’s why I couldn’t tell you which movie has a jason or a freddie. But I know which nightmare has a nancy, Obama and harry.

  15. #15
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:40 am, flenser said:

    There’s a word for fear of Friday the 13th.

    Paraskavedekatriaphobia.

    Is seems easier just to say ‘fear of Friday the 13th’.

  16. #16
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:41 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Ok let us be Moderate here and work together:

    Lock Jason and Freddy Krueger both in the Senate Chambers. On the next Friday the 13th we send the survivor to the House.

    Now that’s reality TV! Friday the 13th could be a National Holiday!

  17. #17
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:42 am, flenser said:

    How about “Nightmare from K Street”

    I like it. We can save “Nightmare from Wall Street” for the next TARP bill which is waiting in the wings.

  18. #18
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:44 am, jangar said:

    Horror defined:

    May the fleas of one trillion rats infest anyone who votes for the suckulus bill.

  19. #19
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:44 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:39 am, Misscheryl said:
    I don’t watch those movies frosrt and that’s why I couldn’t tell you which movie has a jason or a freddie. But I know which nightmare has a nancy, Obama and harry.

    ————————————–

    I hear you. I’m hoping the far-left learns a lesson the hard way because of the consequences of this election; too bad the rest of us have to go along for the ride.

    I just keep telling myself, “Midterms are not that far away . . . “

  20. #20
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:46 am, Elm Creek Smith said:

    Prayers for the lost and their families from the plane crash.

    Just a recap:

    1. Schumer is a toad.

    2. The Turncoat Caucus needs to be beaten with the 1400+ page monstrosity to show them how their “bipartisanship” and “compromises” were rewarded since the “compromises” were deleted in the “no Republicans allowed” conference.

    3. Gregg showed backbone.

    4. The head of Caterpillar made Da One look like an idiot yesterday. Da One said the stimulus bill would allow Cat to rehire at least some of the 20K+ people laid off recently. The Cat boss said no and warned of more layoffs before the stimulus package has an effect.

    5. I’m still buying ammo.

    The resistance is here. The resistance is now. RESIST!

    ECS

  21. #21
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:46 am, moc23 said:

    Since it’s part comedy, part horror, I’m thinking more along the lines of Evil Dead.

  22. #22
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:46 am, txvet2 said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:28 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:25 am, Paul Revere said:
    Socialism is like Jason. It never dies.

    ————————————–

    And always fails; something the socialists never learn.

    It depends on your definition of failure. To most of the communist hierarchy in the USSR, communism didn’t “fail”, at least until the final catastrophic collapse, because they still had their perks up to the end (and many of them still do – like Putin). And to people like Ayers and the monument to affirmative action run amok, it won’t be a failure during their lifetimes if they can impose their system here (which it appears they will). It’s only a failure to those of us who live under their heel and who are old enough to still remember when we were free.

  23. #23
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:47 am, Misscheryl said:

    6. Pelosi is going to Rome!

  24. #24
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:50 am, davidjamesduprey said:

    Lock Jason and Freddy Krueger both in the Senate Chambers. On the next Friday the 13th we send the survivor to the House.

    Here! Here!

  25. #25
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:51 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:46 am, txvet2 said:
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:28 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:25 am, Paul Revere said:
    Socialism is like Jason. It never dies.
    ————————————–

    And always fails; something the socialists never learn.
    It depends on your definition of failure. To most of the communist hierarchy in the USSR, communism didn’t “fail”, at least until the final catastrophic collapse, because they still had their perks up to the end (and many of them still do – like Putin). And to people like Ayers and the monument to affirmative action run amok, it won’t be a failure during their lifetimes if they can impose their system here (which it appears they will). It’s only a failure to those of us who live under their heel and who are old enough to still remember when we were free.

    —————————————

    Agreed on all points. I guess your last sentence is what I was thinking when I said “fails”.

    My main concern is the Fairness Doctrine; if that passes, we can kiss the 1st Amendment goodbye. Government mandating who can/cannot be on the air and what can/cannot be said is worse, to my way of thinking, than the Generational Theft Act.

    But I’m not panicking (yet), neither one has actually been passed.

  26. #26
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:53 am, kthomas8268 said:

    The run on gun permits when O won wasn’t because people thought their gun rights would be taken away………..

  27. #27
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:53 am, right4life said:

    I hear you. I’m hoping the far-left learns a lesson the hard way because of the consequences of this election; too bad the rest of us have to go along for the ride.

    not a chance…this goes beyond rationality and into spiritual darkness…

    most of these leftists are just mind-numbed followers…they cannot rationally defend their position…they are filled with hatred for any who disagree.

    reasoning with these people is a waste of time.

  28. #28
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:56 am, jangar said:

    reasoning with these people is a waste of time.

    They MUST be defeated, not reasoned with, not taken to lunch, just defeated period!

  29. #29
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:58 am, Romeo13 said:

    The actual Historical reason people think Friday the 13th is unlucky, is that it was the day the King of France arrested all the Knight Templars.

    He did this because he owed them lots of money, and they were, to all intents and purposes, the Bank of Europe…

    So, it was the First Bank Nationalization… and the seizing of Private Enterprise by the State…

    How… appropirate.

  30. #30
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:58 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:53 am, right4life said:
    I hear you. I’m hoping the far-left learns a lesson the hard way because of the consequences of this election; too bad the rest of us have to go along for the ride.
    not a chance…this goes beyond rationality and into spiritual darkness…

    most of these leftists are just mind-numbed followers…they cannot rationally defend their position…they are filled with hatred for any who disagree.

    reasoning with these people is a waste of time.

    ————————————-

    I get you; if they’re too blinded by ideology to see or care about the consequences of their actions to the country, the only other option is to vote them out. That is what I’m hoping (and praying) for.

    2010 and 2012 can’t come soon enough.

  31. #31
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:01 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:58 am, Romeo13 said:
    The actual Historical reason people think Friday the 13th is unlucky, is that it was the day the King of France arrested all the Knight Templars.

    He did this because he owed them lots of money, and they were, to all intents and purposes, the Bank of Europe…

    So, it was the First Bank Nationalization… and the seizing of Private Enterprise by the State…

    How… appropirate.

    —————————————

    Interesting bit of info. I only knew that 13 was thought of as an unlucky number and Friday an unlucky day; didn’t really know why.

    You’re right, that does seem appropriate in a twisted way.

  32. #32
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:03 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    I liked both “Alien” and “Aliens” so I finally watched “Alien 3″ last night. I wish I hadn’t. Compared to the other two it sucked.

    Thinking of “Aliens”, hands up for those who think Allen Spector, Olympia Snow and Susan Collins are exactly like the weasel character Carter Burke? They claim to be on our side but they have their own hidden agenda contrary to our objectives and will do anything they can in secret to get their way no matter what harm it brings to us and the entire country.

    Maybe we can get some aliens to come here to help us? Talk about deserving of some pay back … maybe we can’t get them eaten alive like Carter Burke but we can at least try to get them thrown out of office!

  33. #33
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:05 am, southsideironworks said:

    We’re NOT going to defeat this bill. There are too many egos at stake. Suck it up and brace for impact.

    And buy ammo too.

  34. #34
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:06 am, Bicyea said:

    Henrietta’s nightmare.


    Tonya Johnson, Director of We Care Ministry, says she has offered Hughes assistance in the past – even a place to live – and she didn’t take it.

    “We’ve offered her help. We have assisted her and if she’s been living out of her car – it’s only by choice,” said Johnson.

    See Henrietta didn’t want a home, she wanted a home RENT FREE.

  35. #35
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:08 am, granite said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:53 am, right4life said:

    …this goes beyond rationality and into spiritual darkness…

    reasoning with these people is a waste of time.

    BINGO!!

  36. #36
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:10 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:06 am, Bicyea said:
    Henrietta’s nightmare.

    Tonya Johnson, Director of We Care Ministry, says she has offered Hughes assistance in the past – even a place to live – and she didn’t take it.

    “We’ve offered her help. We have assisted her and if she’s been living out of her car – it’s only by choice,” said Johnson.

    See Henrietta didn’t want a home, she wanted a home RENT FREE.

    —————————————

    I wish I could say I was shocked to find this out; I’m not.

    There are plenty of such organizations to help people like Henrietta, but they don’t necessarily offer 15 minutes of fame and a free home to stay in, like she got by asking for help from Pres Obama during his revival, er, town hall meeting.

  37. #37
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:13 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:08 am, granite said:
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:53 am, right4life said:

    …this goes beyond rationality and into spiritual darkness…

    reasoning with these people is a waste of time.
    BINGO!!

    ————————————

    BINGO! !

    Squared.

  38. #38
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:24 am, FamilyMan said:

    Today is one of my daughters birthdays. She is a bright, conservative activist. Today is a very GOOD day. She is the future of our constitutional republic. There are millions like her.

  39. #39
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:25 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:47 am, Misscheryl said:

    6. Pelosi is going to Rome!

    Let us hope she likes Rome so much she stays! She could join a Convent and get none.

  40. #40
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:29 am, chapoutier said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:28 am, frostrt said:
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:25 am, Paul Revere said:
    Socialism is like Jason. It never dies.

    ————————————–

    And always fails; something the socialists never learn.

    In what way does Jason fail? There are a heck of a lot of half naked dead teens out there. I’d say he’s been quite successful.

  41. #41
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:34 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:29 am, chapoutier said:
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:28 am, frostrt said:
    On February 13th, 2009 at 9:25 am, Paul Revere said:
    Socialism is like Jason. It never dies.

    ————————————–

    And always fails; something the socialists never learn.
    In what way does Jason fail? There are a heck of a lot of half naked dead teens out there. I’d say he’s been quite successful.

    —————————————

    Nope, Jason will never fail, as long as some studio decides they can make money off another sequel/a remake.

    My point was that socialism has a tendency to collapse. It fails on its own, is defeated, or the people rebel against it. Even Chavez couldn’t get his people to vote to make him their “president” for life. (I use quotes because, without the people’s right to vote, they have no rightfully elected president).

  42. #42
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:35 am, Mookie said:

    One of the people killed in the Buffalo crash was a 9/11 widow who met with Obama last week at the White House.

  43. #43
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:36 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:35 am, Mookie said:
    One of the people killed in the Buffalo crash was a 9/11 widow who met with Obama last week at the White House.

    ————————————–

    I know. I believe I also heard that today is her late husband’s birthday. It’s a shame.

  44. #44
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:38 am, chapoutier said:

    Does anyone know if the widow’s husband was a passenger on one of the planes or was in one of the towers or Pentagon?

  45. #45
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:43 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    If Dems followed the example of their dear leader,
    They would vote “Present” for this bill!

  46. #46
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:45 am, Mookie said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:38 am, chapoutier said:

    Does anyone know if the widow’s husband was a passenger on one of the planes or was in one of the towers or Pentagon?

    He was in the WTC. She was on the phone with him when the tower collapsed.

  47. #47
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:46 am, Hannibal said:

    Did you guys catch any of the Westminster Dog Show? Congratulations to ol’ Stump, 77 in dog years. It was quite unique how they introduced each breed. Each one is introduced and the announcer tells a little about them. Like:

    This is the Newfoundland. The Newfoundland is a large, usually black, breed of dog originally used as a working dog in Newfoundland. They are known for their sweet dispositions, loyalty, and natural water rescue tendencies. The Newfoundland dog excels at water rescue, due partly to their webbed feet and amazing swimming abilities. This is Newfoundland No. 6. The official dog of Newfoundland.

    They are all the official dog of something. I think the democrat party needs an official AKC recognized dog and Obama can be saved from a tough decision and go with the official democrat dog with his choice for the White House. MO might enter the dog in next years Westminster. You might hear from the announcer:

    This is a Blue State Leg Humper. This dog is capable of sucking eggs without breaking the shells, eats its own feces, and both genders energetically hump the legs of lobbyists and voters within a 50 yard radius. This dog whines rather than barks, sucks rather than bites. This is Blue State Leg Humper No. 9. The official dog of the democrat party.

    And they win again in 2010.

  48. #48
    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:10 am, pianoman said:

    Seventeen years from now, it might be a really unlucky Friday the 13th:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_MN4

    Hopefully Bruce Willis will still be around then. :)

  49. #49
    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:11 am, pianoman said:

    Scusa…that should be 27 years…more coffee…

  50. #50
    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:13 am, b-cat said:

    Blue State Leg Humper! :lol:

  51. #51
    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:14 am, denver republican said:

    I’d rather take my chances with Jason Voorhees than this Congress and President.

  52. #52
    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:22 am, battleaxe said:

    I’d like to hire Jason Voorhees, Freddy Krueger, Michael Myers, Alien, Predator, a swarm of killer bees, Dracula, a pack of werewolves, Pinhead (the guy from Hellraiser, not the actual Congress critters), some zombies (err…living impaired), Leatherface, and Chucky to lobby the US Congress against passing this bill. I would hope their previous exploits would be enough to inspire a no vote or two on the “stimulus”.

  53. #53
    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:24 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:22 am, battleaxe said:
    I’d like to hire Jason Voorhees, Freddy Krueger, Michael Myers, Alien, Predator, a swarm of killer bees, Dracula, a pack of werewolves, Pinhead (the guy from Hellraiser, not the actual Congress critters), some zombies (err…living impaired), Leatherface, and Chucky to lobby the US Congress against passing this bill. I would hope their previous exploits would be enough to inspire a no vote or two on the “stimulus”.

    ————————————–

    Sorry Jack (Murtha); Chucky’s back!

    :)

  54. #54
    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:28 am, Andy said:

    There you have it!!! Obambi just expressed sympathy to the victims of the air crash (50 souls) and a shout out to the hero firefighters.

    Now we await similar words for the causalities, victims & heros of the Kentucky icestorm… Chirp. Chirp. Chirp.

    Okay. How about a word or two in regards to Oklahoma’s twister? Chirp. Chirp. Chirp.

    Reckon if it has anythng to do with Kentucky & Oklahoma being Red while NY is Blue? Nah, that would be hyperpartisan.

    What say the resident libtards?

  55. #55
    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:42 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:28 am, Andy said:
    There you have it!!! Obambi just expressed sympathy to the victims of the air crash (50 souls) and a shout out to the hero firefighters.

    Now we await similar words for the causalities, victims & heros of the Kentucky icestorm… Chirp. Chirp. Chirp.

    Okay. How about a word or two in regards to Oklahoma’s twister? Chirp. Chirp. Chirp.

    —————————————

    Yep, his silence about those two events is deafening, especially since he is not being silent about the plane crash.

  56. #56
    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:48 am, JohnnyAngel said:

    I just wanted to get word out to Selam Hayek that I’ve been feeling a bit ill lately…and I’m really, REALLY hungry.

  57. #57
    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:48 am, JohnnyAngel said:

    I just wanted to get word out to Selma Hayek that I’ve been feeling a bit ill lately…and I’m really, REALLY hungry.

  58. #58
    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:51 am, chapoutier said:

    Yep, his silence about those two events is deafening, especially since he is not being silent about the plane crash.

    Well except the noise of him declaring a federal emergency mere hours after the governor requested it and the overall competent way in which FEMA acted, from most accounts.

    And wrt the tornado:

    President Barack Obama spoke to Gov. Brad Henry and Oklahoma Sens. Jim Inhofe and Tom Coburn and “passed along his condolences and best wishes to the victims,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said.
    Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano also offered Henry “any and all support” to help rebuild infrastructure destroyed by the storm, as well as support to those who lost their homes.

  59. #59
    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:53 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:51 am, chapoutier said:
    Yep, his silence about those two events is deafening, especially since he is not being silent about the plane crash.
    Well except the noise of him declaring a federal emergency mere hours after the governor requested it and the overall competent way in which FEMA acted, from most accounts.

    And wrt the tornado:

    President Barack Obama spoke to Gov. Brad Henry and Oklahoma Sens. Jim Inhofe and Tom Coburn and “passed along his condolences and best wishes to the victims,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said.
    Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano also offered Henry “any and all support” to help rebuild infrastructure destroyed by the storm, as well as support to those who lost their homes.
    ————————————–

    I stand corrected; good to know.

  60. #60
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:00 pm, right4life said:

    it and the overall competent way in which FEMA acted, from most accounts.

    you sure about that??

    link

    In Kentucky’s Grayson County, about 80 miles southwest of Louisville, Emergency Management Director Randell Smith said the 25 National Guardsmen who have responded have no chain saws to clear fallen trees.

    “We’ve got people out in some areas we haven’t even visited yet,” Smith said. “We don’t even know that they’re alive.”

    Smith said FEMA was still a no-show days after the storm. [all emphasis mine - admin]

    link

    just search michelle’s site for ‘kentucky’

  61. #61
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:02 pm, chapoutier said:

    In the first real test of the Obama administration’s ability to respond to a disaster, Kentucky officials are giving the federal government good marks for its response to a deadly ice storm.

    “We have had tremendous and quick response from President Obama and his administration,” Beshear said Monday. “I don’t think any of our folks that have dealt with disasters before ever recall as quick a response as we got last Wednesday.”

    Trina Sheets, executive director of the National Emergency Management Association, based in Lexington, Ky., said that from what she’s heard, FEMA’s response has been very good so far. Her group represents emergency management directors from all 50 states.

    “The governor’s declaration request for an emergency was turned around very, very quickly by FEMA and the White House,” said Sheets, who just had her power restored Monday after four days without it. “And President Obama has spoken with the governor of Kentucky on several occasions throughout the event.”

    Sheets said she hadn’t heard any complaints so far about the federal response.

    “FEMA and the Kentucky National Guard are doing everything they can to get things back up and running,” Sen. Jim Bunning said.

    Sometimes its nice to get your news from places other than this site.

  62. #62
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:04 pm, right4life said:

    Sometimes its nice to get your news from places other than this site.

    so michelle is a liar?

    and I notice no link….

  63. #63
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:04 pm, flenser said:

    In what way does Jason fail? There are a heck of a lot of half naked dead teens out there. I’d say he’s been quite successful.

    Since we’re likening Jason to socialism here, I guess I have to point out that socialism has been very successful at leaving a trail of dead people in its wake also. It does not even care if you’re a teen.

  64. #64
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:07 pm, right4life said:

    We haven’t seen FEMA. They haven’t been here,” said Jaime Green, a spokeswoman for the emergency operations center in Lyon County, about 95 miles northwest of Nashville, Tenn.

    link

    Brocton Oglesby, director of emergency management in Hopkins County, said he has seen virtually no contribution from FEMA in the county, where more than half of the 27,000 homes remained without electricity.

    “They need to be here — at least a presence, a liaison to work with us, to start feeding information and gearing up for the next stage,” Oglesby said. “That’s where they’re going to be needed the most.”

    Oglesby’s seen FEMA show up after other disasters to assess the damages and write checks. Beshear asked for FEMA to have a role on the front end this time, though, and Oglesby said that hasn’t happened.

    “As soon as they want to come in and start working, we’re ready to go,” he said.

    did you get your quote from MSNBC??

  65. #65
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:08 pm, flenser said:

    In the first real test of the Obama administration’s ability to respond to a disaster, Kentucky officials are giving the federal government good marks for its response to a deadly ice storm.

    What, three fiicken’ weeks after the event they finally notice what’s happening, and they “get high marks” for doing so?

    “We have had tremendous and quick response from President Obama and his administration,” Beshear said Monday.

    So the Democratic governor is saying nice nice things about the Democratic President. Boy, there’s a man-bites-dog story.

  66. #66
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:09 pm, right4life said:

    it looks like your posted your stuff from MSNBC…as I did…no surprise you didn’t put in a link… :roll:

  67. #67
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, right4life said:

    We’re asking people to pack a suitcase and head south and find a motel if they have the means, because we can’t service everybody in our shelter,” said Crittenden County Judge-Executive Fred Brown, who oversees about 9,000 people, many of whom are sleeping in the town’s elementary school.

    Local officials were growing angry with what they said was a lack of help from the state and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. In Grayson County, about 80 miles southwest of Louisville, Emergency Management Director Randell Smith said the 25 National Guardsmen who have responded have no chain saws to clear fallen trees.

    “We’ve got people out in some areas we haven’t even visited yet,” Smith said. “We don’t even know that they’re alive.”

    Smith said FEMA has been a no-show so far.

    “I’m not saying we can’t handle it; we’ll handle it,” Smith said. “But it would have made life a lot easier” if FEMA had reached the county sooner, he said.

    link

  68. #68
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:12 pm, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, right4life said:
    We’re asking people to pack a suitcase and head south and find a motel if they have the means, because we can’t service everybody in our shelter,” said Crittenden County Judge-Executive Fred Brown, who oversees about 9,000 people, many of whom are sleeping in the town’s elementary school.

    Local officials were growing angry with what they said was a lack of help from the state and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. In Grayson County, about 80 miles southwest of Louisville, Emergency Management Director Randell Smith said the 25 National Guardsmen who have responded have no chain saws to clear fallen trees.

    “We’ve got people out in some areas we haven’t even visited yet,” Smith said. “We don’t even know that they’re alive.”

    Smith said FEMA has been a no-show so far.

    “I’m not saying we can’t handle it; we’ll handle it,” Smith said. “But it would have made life a lot easier” if FEMA had reached the county sooner, he said.
    link

    ————————————

    Perhaps I spoke too soon; looke like Chap may be the one who stands corrected.

  69. #69
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:16 pm, chapoutier said:

    right4life,

    Actually, it was an AP story and in any case do you think AP/MSNBC made up what the governor and the senators and everyone else said?

    Don’t be dumb.

    And no, I don’t think MM is a liar, but one can certainly be selective about what information one choses to present.

    What, three fiicken’ weeks after the event they finally notice what’s happening, and they “get high marks” for doing so?

    What are you talking about? The governor requested federal aid 2 days after the storm and the declaration of emergency was issued within hours on Thursday night and by Friday morning trucks with relief supplies were on site.

    So the Democratic governor is saying nice nice things about the Democratic President. Boy, there’s a man-bites-dog story.

    The fact that he is a Dem is hardly an argument, but what say you about Bunning? Last time I checked, he had an R after his name.

  70. #70
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:19 pm, chapoutier said:

    frostrt,

    I never said they reached everyone as quickly as everyone would have liked them to be. I said that most accounts say that FEMA and Obama responded appropriately.

    Having endured an ice storm where we were without power for over 2 weeks and without a phone for 3 weeks, I am well aware that some rural areas don’t get touched until larger populations are taken care of. That is just simple efficiency and it would be stupid to act otherwise.

  71. #71
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:22 pm, right4life said:

    Actually, it was an AP story and in any case do you think AP/MSNBC made up what the governor and the senators and everyone else said?

    Don’t be dumb.

    you’re being too clevery by half..by not posting the link..you got that from MSNBC, just as I the part that I posted…I posted a link, you did not…why is that?? didn’t want people to see the entire story?

    And no, I don’t think MM is a liar, but one can certainly be selective about what information one choses to present.

    yes, as you just demonstrated.

  72. #72
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:24 pm, right4life said:

    we all know that bush was excoriated for a slow fema response…but in this case nothing is said, and there is no focus on fema’s lack of response…

    we also know why.

  73. #73
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:25 pm, Misscheryl said:

    I’m sorry – but I live in Oklahoma and I don’t see where any of this is an issue re: the tornado that hit Lone Grove and the response of Fema or Obama…I’m just sayin…

    Those who lost loved ones – no amount of response will “make it better” and for those who lost material things..the government will assist them. Obama and the governor talked about it already. Don’t mean to offend, but this is hardly a 3:00 am moment. Tragic yes, it is what it is…

  74. #74
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:26 pm, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:19 pm, chapoutier said:
    frostrt,

    I never said they reached everyone as quickly as everyone would have liked them to be. I said that most accounts say that FEMA and Obama responded appropriately.

    Having endured an ice storm where we were without power for over 2 weeks and without a phone for 3 weeks, I am well aware that some rural areas don’t get touched until larger populations are taken care of. That is just simple efficiency and it would be stupid to act otherwise.

    ————————————

    True, the President and FEMA are not responsible for the fact that it may take longer to reach more rural areas; that’s just logistics. Here in southern MO we’ve been without power for extended periods; my parents have a generator.

    And, now that I think about it, anytime you have a situation like this, there will be people who are not satisfied with how they were taken care of for the very reason you pointed out. It wasn’t hard to find a few negative quotes, I imagine.

  75. #75
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, right4life said:

    And, now that I think about it, anytime you have a situation like this, there will be people who are not satisfied with how they were taken care of for the very reason you pointed out. It wasn’t hard to find a few negative quotes, I imagine.

    true, but when Obama is president, you will not see this issue exploited as katrina was by the democrats…er I mean mainstream drive-by media…same thing…

  76. #76
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:31 pm, chapoutier said:

    you’re being too clevery by half..by not posting the link..you got that from MSNBC, just as I the part that I posted…I posted a link, you did not…why is that?? didn’t want people to see the entire story?

    Not posting the link was an error in trying to get the post out quickly. I have no problem citing MSNBC, especially when it is an AP story and especially when I am citing it for freaking quotes by people, not MSNBC’s (or AP’s commentary).

    As for being “selective”. Of course I was. You had already presented your evidence in the form of quotes from people who were unhappy. I did not dispute their veracity. What would have been the point of posting them again?

  77. #77
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:33 pm, chapoutier said:

    true, but when Obama is president, you will not see this issue exploited as katrina was by the democrats…er I mean mainstream drive-by media…same thing…

    So it sounds like your real issue is that you are still bitter about how Bush was portrayed by the media, rather than any real argument that Obama and FEMA were incompetent here.

  78. #78
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:37 pm, right4life said:

    So it sounds like your real issue is that you are still bitter about how Bush was portrayed by the media, rather than any real argument that Obama and FEMA were incompetent here.

    fema is incompetent…they’re a government agency. its obvious.

  79. #79
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:38 pm, right4life said:

    and yes Obama IS incompetent…thats MORE than obvious…

  80. #80
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:39 pm, DBNinKY said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:12 pm, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, right4life said:

    On top of the devastation left by last week’s ice storms, East KY was hit especially hard by the recent windstorms from the OK tornado (excellent pictures of the devastation at Floyd County Times Online), and we’re yet to see or hear anything from Obama or FEMA.

    So the Democratic governor is saying nice nice things about the Democratic President. Boy, there’s a man-bites-dog story.

    Flenser, that ain’t the half of it. Beshear was a perpetual gubernatorial candidate (he sought the office for over twenty years!) Kentuckians only elected so they could see some peace from him.

  81. #81
    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:44 pm, Andy said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:51 am, chapoutier said:

    SNIP

    Well except the noise of him declaring a federal emergency mere hours after the governor requested it and the overall competent way in which FEMA acted, from most accounts.

    And wrt the tornado:

    President Barack Obama spoke to Gov. Brad Henry and Oklahoma Sens. Jim Inhofe and Tom Coburn and “passed along his condolences and best wishes to the victims,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said.
    Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano also offered Henry “any and all support” to help rebuild infrastructure destroyed by the storm, as well as support to those who lost their homes.

    Chappy, thanks for making my point. Obambi got on TV and publicly said something about the crash.
    TOA Response time: Relatively quick

    Gibbs tells us that Obambi already spoke to Henry et all (privately). That Napolitano promised aid to Henry is just one Dem supporting another Dem. IOW, buff up Henry’s political future.
    TOA Response time: Chirp 1Chirp 2

    WRT Kentucky. A week late and $$$ short. IIRC, Napolitano toured the damages during the 2nd week. I don’t recall FEMA being anywhere, but plenty of Guardsmen and volunteers.

    But I may be wrong since you say “most accounts” indicate otherwise. I’d settle for one account just to set the record straight.
    TOA Response time: Chirp 3Chirp 4Chirp 5

    Finally, you indicate that TOA declared emergency assistance upon request. Sending Janet in his stead is sort of like sending a deputy embassy staffer to a Head of State funeral. However, W got pounded for not proactively responding before Louisiana’s official request after Katrina.

    Like I said, it’s all hyperpolitics for the Massasiah.

  82. #82
    On February 13th, 2009 at 1:03 pm, sbw999 said:

    Seriously:

    If this government keeps on this course of socialism, and economic suicide, does anybody think that we are heading to a real civil war in the next 10-20 years?

  83. #83
    On February 13th, 2009 at 1:36 pm, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 12:33 pm, chapoutier said:
    true, but when Obama is president, you will not see this issue exploited as katrina was by the democrats…er I mean mainstream drive-by media…same thing…
    So it sounds like your real issue is that you are still bitter about how Bush was portrayed by the media, rather than any real argument that Obama and FEMA were incompetent here.

    —————————————

    Now that a Democrat is President, other Democrats won’t feel a need to use events like the ice storms or the twisters to score political points against him. Not saying that’s the way it should be; just saying that’s the way politics works.

  84. #84
    On February 13th, 2009 at 1:43 pm, frostrt said:

    A note for all of you who could use some good news on this Friday the 13th;
    Citigroup and Chase are putting foreclosures on hold while they wait for the plan to be hashed out and passed, according to Foxnews.

  85. #85
    On February 13th, 2009 at 2:03 pm, Andy said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 11:51 am, chapoutier said: @ #58

    Chappy, I posted a response about an hour & half ago where I link to 5 Obamni chirps. It appears to be hung up in the filter. We’ll see if and when it shows up — comments were up to around #75 when I posted

  86. #86
    On February 13th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, chapoutier said:

    Chappy, I posted a response about an hour & half ago where I link to 5 Obamni chirps. It appears to be hung up in the filter. We’ll see if and when it shows up — comments were up to around #75 when I posted

    That is incredibly annoying when that happens, especially when you know there is nothing offensive in the post (I assume that to be the case). I have learned, the hard way, to copy all my posts (at least ones of any length) before hitting “submit”.

  87. #87
    On February 13th, 2009 at 2:29 pm, rightisright said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 1:03 pm, sbw999 said:
    Seriously: If this government keeps on this course of socialism, and economic suicide, does anybody think that we are heading to a real civil war in the next 10-20 years?

    It won’t take that long…you easily could see the start of a revolt before 2010.

  88. #88
    On February 13th, 2009 at 2:58 pm, dan708 said:

    The House reportedly passed the compromise MOACS (Mother Of All Crap Sandwiches) with all Republicans voting against it. How grimly appropriate that our economic system is being sliced and diced on Friday the 13th.

  89. #89
    On February 13th, 2009 at 4:01 pm, Andy said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, chapoutier said:

    I usually do on the long ones. But not this time, for naught it’d seem.

    Anyway, if you look at all 5 pages (chirps) of the official WH statements, there is only the reference to the plane crash. Nada for Kentucky & Oklahoma.

    The other point was that having Janet represent the WH is like sending a Consular to a Head of State funeral.

    There may have been another counterpoint or two, but I see others have it covered.

  90. #90
    On February 13th, 2009 at 5:26 pm, simcoe said:

    .
    Check it out!

    San Fran, America’s Sodom by the bay has had a new addition (photo #6). Good thing for him the simians aren’t as the citizens, for it either couldn’t have happened at all or he would’ve been terminated inter-uterine.

  91. #91
    On February 13th, 2009 at 7:27 pm, Omu said:

    Enjoy some time with the ones you love, whoever they are.

    Unless one happens to be gay and the person you love is of the same sex. In that case, you should go to reparative therapy, stop asking to be treated fairly and stop being a pervert; isn’t that right, Michelle Malkin?

  92. #92
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:12 pm, Kevin K. said:

    Omu said: (#90)

    Enjoy some time with the ones you love, whoever they are.

    Unless one happens to be gay and the person you love is of the same sex. In that case, you should go to reparative therapy, stop asking to be treated fairly and stop being a pervert; isn’t that right, Michelle Malkin?

    While Michelle can well speak for herself, I think that many will agree with me that we don’t care whom you love and with whom you live (okay, it has to be a consenting adult)–just don’t call it marriage because of a whole host of issues that has (have? is “host” singular or plural in this context?) been beaten to death in various threads.

    As a bachelor with no special someone, I am opposed to Valentine’s Day anywhere near me completely. I’m glad for the genuine economic stimulus, though, as I am a capitalist at heart. (But I am always happier when the 15th comes around.)

  93. #93
    On February 13th, 2009 at 10:22 pm, Kevin K. said:

    chapoutier said: (#77)

    true, but when Obama is president, you will not see this issue exploited as katrina was by the democrats…er I mean mainstream drive-by media…same thing…

    So it sounds like your real issue is that you are still bitter about how Bush was portrayed by the media, rather than any real argument that Obama and FEMA were incompetent here.

    Well, that would have been my point had I weighed in earlier on this discussion. I knew that the National Guard was working hard, but without digging, I had seen almost nothing about FEMA’s involvement and the approval of the state of emergency. Frankly, I would have expected some more coverage. Seeing almost no coverage outside the area makes me think that the press/MSM had a particular bias in reporting both Katrina and the recent disasters.

    Most of the problems with the Katrina mess were because of bad local and state actions. Also, the laws have been changed since then to allow the feds to start moving before the governor specifically requests assistance. During Hurricane Katrina, FEMA had to wait until asked.) You would think that a more honest press would report on the success of the new laws, at least.

  94. #94
    On February 14th, 2009 at 1:41 am, Bogtrotter said:

    “The Turncoat Caucus needs to be beaten with the 1400+ page monstrosity…..”

    And since it would be akin to using a phone book…….no broken bones, etc., afterward we can just claim they are nuts and making it all up. You are on to something.

  95. #95
    On February 14th, 2009 at 9:17 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    battleaxe said:
    I’d like to hire Jason Voorhees, Freddy Krueger, Michael Myers, Alien, Predator, a swarm of killer bees, Dracula, a pack of werewolves, Pinhead (the guy from Hellraiser, not the actual Congress critters), some zombies (err…living impaired), Leatherface, and Chucky to lobby the US Congress against passing this bill. I would hope their previous exploits would be enough to inspire a no vote or two on the “stimulus”.

    And throw in this guy for good measure.

  96. #96
    On February 14th, 2009 at 1:16 pm, ScoopPC11 said:

    Speaking of Friday the 13th, I saw the new “Friday the 13th” reboot in the theater last night. The theater was packed — the cashier actually asked me to go in the theater first before buying my ticket to see if I could find a seat. For a “Friday the 13th” film, it was actually pretty good.

    As far as Porkulus goes, I’m sure if I were able to sit down and read the bill in its current form I would have to do the same thing I did at the theater – peek through my fingers and hope nothing scary jumps out at me.

  97. #97
    On February 14th, 2009 at 3:18 pm, beenthere said:

    I confess the date of Friday the 13th certainly has a bad feeling about it — for those inclined to believe in omens, and who isn’t after but a mere four weeks into the Obama Ascendency? Yet it would all be worth it if the Republican Party was were to rediscover its principles and manhood and fight like demons henceforth. But good luck on that, so to speak.

    I notice a lot of people are saying that Obama is a joke (“Obamateur” is the latest I’ve heard), falling flat on his face, one pratfall after another. Nevertheless, for a race clown he has his party behind him, his nation killing legislation is only slightly behind schedule, and his popularity while down remains strong. So whose laughing all the way to the insolvent bank? Not us. If nations get the government they deserve, we must have been and still are one rotten worthless bunch of sinners.

  98. #98
    On February 16th, 2009 at 9:16 am, frostrt said:

    On February 13th, 2009 at 7:27 pm, Omu said:
    Enjoy some time with the ones you love, whoever they are.
    Unless one happens to be gay and the person you love is of the same sex. In that case, you should go to reparative therapy, stop asking to be treated fairly and stop being a pervert; isn’t that right, Michelle Malkin?

    —————————————

    Well, at least when you twisted my well-wishes around, you didn’t try to attribute your interpretation to ME.

    Thanks . . . I guess.

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