The barbaric Muslim beheading in Buffalo
Do you think this will get as much attention from the MSM as, say, the Ted Haggard scandal or Pat Robertson’s Teletubbies remarks?
Somehow, I doubt it. (Link):
Orchard Park police are investigating a particularly gruesome killing, the beheading of a woman, after her husband — an influential member of the local Muslim community — reported her death to police Thursday.
Police identified the victim as Aasiya Z. Hassan, 37. Detectives have charged her husband, Muzzammil Hassan, 44, with second-degree murder.
“He came to the police station at 6:20 p.m. [Thursday] and told us that she was dead,” Orchard Park Police Chief Andrew Benz said late this morning.
Muzzammil Hassan told police that his wife was at his business, Bridges TV, on Thorn Avenue in the village. Officers went to that location and discovered her body.
Muzzammil Hassan is the founder and chief executive officer of Bridges TV, which he launched in 2004, amid hopes that it would help portray Muslims in a more positive light.
The killing apparently occurred some time late Thursday afternoon. Detectives still are looking for the murder weapon…
Daniel Pipes has been tracking Bridges since 2004. See this helpful timeline updated with the latest gruesome developments. Pipes notes:
1) No, this is not at all obviously about domestic violence. It is obviously about a totalitarian ideology in our midst that authorities like district attorneys refuse to open their eyes to. Phyllis Chesler establishes this point beyond a doubt in a forthcoming Middle East Quarterly article, “Are Honor Killings Simply Domestic Violence?” Spring 2009, pp. 61-69.
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Well, he’s done a bang up job of swaying me towards the religion of pieces.
This isn’t exactly a beheading, but I think it’s on the same level.
There are people who claim to be Christian, and who murder. They are not Christians. Although there were references in the Bible of people in history committing murder, Christians do not murder and it is not in their culture, nor are they extolled to go out and murder “infidels” for not having the same beliefs as they do. In fact, Christians are very adamant about the sanctity of life and that is why we abhor abortion or any other types of murder.
That passage from exodus was all about killing people who did not believe in God.
Did he kill her while praising Allah? Again, while this man was a preacher, he was NOT, I repeat, NOT a Christian. Anyone can claim to be a Christian.
Again, please do share how you know the man who beheaded his wife was a Muslim. Can’t anybody claim to be Muslim as well?
Wow, another leftist shows absolute ignorance of the bible. Who would’ve guessed that would happen?
/sarc
You do realize Exodus is in the Old Testament, right?
An influencial member of the Muslim community, followed the teaching of his religiion which teaches beheading someone as punishment. Hmmmm…sounds like a true muslum doing his Allah’s bidding. By the way, this is tiresome. I have better things to do with my day than feeding a troll.
You do realize the Old Testament is part of the Bible, right?
Not to mention started his own t.v. station with the express purpose of improving the indifels view of Muslims.
Heckuva job!
DON’T FEED LIBERAL TROLLS!
Do you seriously think you will ever be able to get anything through their THICK HEADS?
They’re just messing with you. You can spend 30 minutes composing a logical, reasoned response and they will come back with something based on a conversation they had with a Gore Vidal idolizer while high at Burning Man… It was all a righteous trip, man. Something like that. Why waste your time with that??
it is a deathcult.
BAN SHARIA NOW
I do, but I also understand context and that command in Exodus was for a specific time and event not for all time. Your ignorance is not all the uncommon though amongst atheists. But don’t worry, cause the actual event that does put all those “who oppose the Lord” to the sword is prophesized in Revelation upon the return of Jesus Christ.
Your example is an apples to oranges example but I know you’ll have to deny that in your brain to continue this argument. You don’t see the Christian church advocating the beheading of those who convert away from Christianity. I can point to thousands of examples and dozens of laws amongst Muslims that make legal that very thing and push it as a policy in the open.
Yeah, like so equal and stuff. /sarc
Yes, it is. So what? I wouldn’t expect you to understand, but it’s part of the whole “new covenant” thing. Which is why Christians are not taught to go out and slaughter anyone who disagrees with their religion. Unlike those that follow the “religion of peace”.
Show me where Muslims have had a new covenant and you may have a leg to stand on.
Point taken.
Question is does this quranimal go to same mosque as the lackawanna cell did?
I disagree. There is a common sentiment among posters that there is something fundamentally wrong with Islam, and certain passages from the Koran are used to justify this opinion.
There are similar passages in the Bible. At one time, Christians acted on them. (Luckily, that time has passed) Such passages, however, do not point to a fundamental flaw in Christianity (or Judaism).
So why do certain violent passages in the Koran make Islam fundamentally flawed, but similar ones in the Bible are ok?
Jews do not have a new covenant. Are those who are peaceful simply not good Jews?
No, you disagree because you don’t understand the Bible and want to destroy Christianity. We don’t need to use the Koran to justify this opinion, the fact that Muslims themselves make laws saying its okay to behead people who convert out of Islam speaks volumes for itself or do you not believe that such laws exist despite the evidence to the contrary that is not just some “violent whacko sect” of Islam who make such laws?
I’ve been trying to defend Islam, not destroy Christianity. I thought that was clear. If it wasn’t, I apologize.
I have never doubted such laws exist. I think such laws are disgusting. I do not, however, think it is a fundamental part of Islam.
“There are similar passages in the Bible.”
So show us what they are? Please. I mean really. Show us passages from the Bible that are similiar to those in the Koran that endorse violence against anyone considered an infidel.
Please. Lets see them.
IIRC, Pakistan and Afghanistan have explicit laws on their books about executing apostates.
Gotta go back about half a millenia to find anything like that in Christendom.
Or, for Blue Socialist, Christians and Mormons opposed to gay marriage are fundamentalists in the same way al Qaeda beheading people just for not being Muslim are.
If the Musselman in question had not chosen a favored Islamic method of killing, beheading, and had beaten his wife to death or shot her, this wouldn’t be a thread. People of all faiths (or, like BlueSoc, no faith at all) can commit domestic violence, even murder, but the beheading, well, by a man trying to sugarcoat Islam, well, that is kind of noteable.
I’ve yet to see such evidence.
I know that MM tried to point to a study that showed that a majority of Muslims put their religion before their country. Apparently that was evidence enough for her.
All it told me was that Muslims are more religious than non Muslims. I guess MM thinks that’s a bad thing.
Please don’t use me as a strawman.
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Any woman who is in an abusive relationship should realize that she may be killed by her husband, lover, boyfriend, etc.–regardless of religion.
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Any Muslim woman should realize that her own family (father, mother, brothers, sisters, uncles, dog washers, etc.)may kill her for wanting to have her own life. Witness the Texas Muslim father who shot his two daughters and fled our country.
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Restraining orders from police do not mean anything. Before showing any disobedience or talking back–the woman should secretly arm herself and learn how to shoot to kill.
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Then she should move out, file for divorce, etc. And she should tell the abusive husband / lover / family members that she will kill them on sight.
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God intended all men (persons) to be created equal. Sam Colt (and S & W, Ruger, and others) made it so! I suggest a 5 shot .357 revolver–it will really reform some jihadis. The wise framers of our constitution gave us the right to defend ourselves–use it!
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you’re clueless when it comes to islam…I find it so interesting that atheists and leftists align with muslims…I think I know why, but you wouldn’t believe it.
islam from its start has been all about conquest…there is the house of peace (islam) and the house of war (all that is not islam) and islam will not quit, until they rule the world
they’ve murdering christians, hindus, and everyone else, for the past 1,400 years…when are you going to get a clue?
Almost every modern ideal of justice, law, order, human rights, etc. came from Judeo-Christian beliefs, not Islam. And I say that as an Agnostic.
Trying to make Christianity out to be just as barbaric as Islam, or whatever the hell bluesoc is doing, is nothing but vacuous moral relativism garbage.
To take a recent example, when a woman is gang-raped in Saudi Arabia, she is imprisoned and flogged. In America, she is a victim and treated as such. There is no comparison.
Lol, then you truly are ignorant. Because volumes of such laws exist and your denying their existence doesn’t make them just go away.
Are you referring to the eye for an eye form of justice that led to such things as this?
Just because the laws exist does not mean the population agrees with them.
His goal was to “help portray muslims in a more positive light”?
I see darkness. Not light.
So you are using an incident of punishment for attempted regicide from the mid-1700s as an attempt to prove me wrong about modern ideals? And how is that specific to Christianity anyway? Every culture from Shinto-Buddhist Japan to Islamic Saudi Arabia had harsh punishments for attempting to harm royalty. Nowadays you can throw shoes at the President and be relatively fine.
But whatever; your example comes from France and since it will be a Muslim country in less than 20 years I’m sure you’ll be quite pleased at how progressive things will be there then.
Rocket,
agree had she not lived in antigun NY, she could have been armed and ready to kill this deathcultist when he showed up
to MURDER her.
PS. bridgetv.com is “under construction”
HAHAHAHA
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Why second degree murder vs first degree?
tree/rope/pony should do the trick
Ah, yes. I-Slam. I Slam anyone who disrespects me and my death cult. I Slam all infidels, be they adult or child, Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, other islamists who don’t belong to my particular cult, etc. And mohammed-the-child-molester says it’s my duty to do so.
It’s not as though, in the 20th century, we suddenly based our justice system around Judeo-Chrisitian values . Our modern justice system grew out of that.
Yeah, thanks for clearing that up for me. It’s not as though that wasn’t part of my original point or anything.
I tell you what though; I’ve got a fun test for you to prove how right you are about Islam and Christianity being so alike.
First, be seen in public in America with a Qu’ran. Now try and do the same with a Bible in Saudi Arabia. Let me know how that works out for you.
The list is much longer of places where you can be killed or jailed for doing so. Just helping out
I might not have been very clear. I meant to say that our justice system developed out of the eye for an eye principle that allowed for Damiens’ torture. We’ve obviously overcome such brutality, but at one point (not very long ago) it was thought to be consistent with Judeo Christian morality and justice.
To be honest, I think your example says more about the dangers of state sanctioned religion than it does about Islam being bad.
Israel is a Jewish state. Yeah, your’e just a little bit stupid today… Next!
you’re*
I see liberals in here trying desperately to make a moral equivalent between Christians and Muslims. This is becoming droll and don’t you liberals ever get tired of kissing a$$? Don’t your lips get chapped after a while?
Also, the a$$ kisser who brought up Bosnia. Many of the reported “atrocities” committed by the Serbs were in fact debunked. Since we are playing moral equivalence, the Muslim Albanians enjoyed a game of burning down churches and blazing homes of the Christian elderly after your hero Bill Clinton ordered troops in there under the umbrella of the U.N. Troops who blockaded villages and towns so the the Serb forces could not get in to protect Serb Bosnians. One of the guys in my unit who was there watching Serb forces angry and pleading to let them into a village to stop the Muslim onslaught thought they were being melodramatic. That is until our unit went down into the village, he left saying…I knew then that the Albanians must be some of the worst people on the planet.
You just keep on bringing up things that happened thousands of years ago to justify your liberal “feelings”. Smoochy, smooch, that a$$ sure does taste good, doesn’t it? Or is it that warm feeling you get deep inside telling you, your better than everyone else.
If you want to take it that way fine, but there’s a reason there is no longer such a thing as a country with Christianity as the state-sanctioned religion. Islam on the other hand isn’t too keen on the whole “freedom of religion” thing.
Correct – take the stimulus package for example.
bluesoc wrote:
Nice try.
If the preacher had stoned his wife to death because she committed adultery, your parallel would be vaguely applicable (moreso if they were radical Jews), but he didn’t. That sort of murder is not unique to Christians, whereas beheading is a favorite method of Muslims.
It would have been easier for Hassan to just stab her to death or shoot her, but he (allegedly) cut her head off. You don’t think there’s a reason he did things the hard way?
The Religion of Love?
Christian men kill their wives for adultery all the time. In fact, until very recently, many states considered murder for adultery to only be a 2nd degree offense.
Are you arguing that those who behead are more culpable than those who shoot or stab their wives?
Amen frontierguy! This once great nation is doomed because of the liberals constant lies about actual history. With print news, tv news and Hollyweird rewriting history falsely, how are we going to survive as a nation?
really?? why don’t you post the stats…bet ya can’t, you’re a liar.
Which part? The statutes or the murders?
both…why ask?
And dodges stats that totally contradicts his “Muslim’s don’t behead people because of Islam defense”. Can we drop him off in (____ insert Muslim country here) with a “I love America shirt” on and Bible in hand? Please, pretty please? I want to see his good buddies response and see how much the peace and love preached by the Koran factors into their treatment of him. Any bets he ends up the next televised beheading on Al-Jazeera TV?
Since, his wife came up with the idea of this cable channel; I’m guessing he did not support the channels aims as well as she did.
yeah the libs find common cause with the muslims against christianity…in contradiction to everything the liberals say they believe….because they serve the same dark master…and neither of them know it…yet.
bluesoc you are so stupid you make the crackhead YOU elected in D.C. look smart.
I would like to see where you are getting your information from. Just because you are hearing Whoopi Goldberg on the View say it does not mean it is true.
bluesoc, you are a little ignorant troll whom is a sheep being lead to slaughter by the people you are following. I for one am waiting for the day the revolution to take back our country begins.
BRING ON THE CIVIL WAR !!! TIME TO GET RID OF THE STUPID PEOPLE.
Until 1997, Maryland allowed one to mitigate murder to manslaughter on the discovery of adultery. They had to change the law to say:
“the discovery of one’s spouse engaged in sexual activity or sexual intercourse with another person does not constitute legally adequate provocation for the purpose of mitigating a killing of the spouse from the crime of murder to voluntary manslaughter”
Dip, dodge, weave and duck! Look at that troll go!
right4life said (#153):
It’s true, you cannot imagine the power of the dark side of the Force.
maryland!! that good liberal state…how interesting…you didn’t post a link…well you know those good libs are always excusing crimes aren’t they? those poor criminals are just ‘victims’ aren’t they?
Tell me you’re kidding
Tell me you’re drunk
Tell me your philosophical idol is lgm.
How you can compare random murder with barbaric Islamist sanctioned Honor Killings is beyond belief. To say that chopping someone’s head off is not Islamic is a clear sign of ignorance. Beheading infidels is sanctioned by Islamic Sharia laws, as is slaughtering your wife or daughter when your pride is wounded.
Of course you throw old testament law out and claim that Christians should follow it – which further proves your ignorance. The Old Testament is a history lesson for Christians so they can understand where their beliefs come from.
You completely ignore what happened in history (your ignorance of which comes when you claim that US law is based on Judeo-Christian law, it’s not, it’s based on British Common law) If we were to follow your sorry, pitiful logic Obama would be owned by a Democrat plantation owner and be working a cotton field because slavery used to be legal.
Please feel free to explore the rest of the internet. Now. Go.
you have no idea how very real and very frightening the darkness is…oh but you will someday!
In Massachusetts “observing one’s spouse in the act of adultery or hearing such acts may constitute legally sufficient provocation” to mitigate a murder charge to manslaughter.
Bluesoc,
You can cite thousands of examples of Christians, Jews, Buddhists, and people of other religions behaving badly. There will always be an example of someone killing someone else – regardless of religion. The difference here is that only one (major) religion today sanctions the brutal murder of people of other religions. Only one religion today sanctions the oppression of half of its population (women).
Beheading someone may not be a particularly nasty way of killing someone – if you use a large sharp knife and one clean blow. However, anything less than that would be a nasty way to kill someone.
Still dodging…
right4life said (#160):
There’s good in you. I can feel it!
another good liberal state…oh this is too funny! you pick the states that have strayed the farthest from a judeo-christian concept of justice and law…states that are famous for excusing crime…do you remember the 60s and 70s?? criminals were just ‘victims’ of vast socio-economic forces…and were to be rehabilitated instead of punished???
What about Jews? They follow the Old Testament.
where do you think common law came from?
funny, I’m not feeling it from you!
where do they do the animal sacrifices at???
/drum roll
/cymbal
Ummm, I’m not sure Mass. was uber liberal when they started recognizing this defense. Call it a hunch.
That was exactly my point when I brought up the Old Testament.
Even if something is in a sacred text, it does not mean that members of that religion MUST follow it.
they’ve been uber liberal for a long long time…its like chicago…name the last republican mayor…been a while, same for detroit…crime is rampant…schools failing…in detroit, civilization is crumbling…ever wonder why?
you need to do a little more reading of history….
Blue soc: Im glad you are posting because you illustrate so clearly the puddle deep intellect of the average run of the mill liberal. To a liberal a butterfly and a jet are quite similar, because they both have wings. Something about the liberal mind makes you unable to make logical comparisons, or connections. But you’ll insist that you’re right with child like persistence. Liberals are masters of the non sequitur. If ignorance is bliss, you are indeed a happy little liberal.
yeah but the muslims are pretty devout, and they follow the koran very closely…sharia law…and where are all the muslim protests of the suicide bombers?? you won’t find any.
I’m still gonna stick by my hunch. Generally, these adultery laws are very (hundreds of years) old.
So if you don’t protest something, it means you endorse it? I’m not sure I’d agree with that.
I appoligize to all texans for this…..
sarc on/
In Texas you are allowed to committ murder if you beleive that the person you are killing would be better off. Or atleast that is what Whoopi says on the View. LOL
sarc off/
For you information bluesoc the law in Miss. said that until 1996 you could still own a slave. Show me one case where this was used successfully since 1900 to allow the servitude of blacks ???
Thanks for the analysis.
Bluesoc, does that only apply to men? Just curious.
I think you know where I am going here. So in the interest of brevity, go ahead and justify my argument through some equivalence.
That’s a bad example. The 13th amendment abolished slavery. The Supremacy clause trumps state law.
Another shining example of the religion of pieces……………
no surprise there…truth, logic, history, and facts are wasted upon liberals..
bluesoc said (#166):
Death for adultery has not been practiced since Rabbi Akiva (about 200AD?).
Otherwise I’m with you all the way. How can these nuts pretend that only Muslims do bad things?
Ooops, justify your argument.
Indeed. But you will find 70,000 student volunteers in Iran who want to blow themselves up to kill Israelis
really? christians protested slavery…christian abolition societies….name a muslim abolition society, or a atheist one…you cannot..ever hear of WILBERFORCE??
please the muslims danced in the street on 9/11…
HOW IS IT A BAD EXAMPLE ??? Is it cause you are unable to answer ?? I think it is a great example. Just because it slapped you logic down does not make it a bad example.
another nice liberal lie.
people of all types do bad things…but violence is part of islam…and your denials are idiotic and laughable.
Including Muslims in this country. I kept news articles because it astounded me when it happened and knew one day some liberal nutjob like lgm or bluesoc would deny it ever happened.
Quite welcome. Always happy to help.
Muslims Against Sharia
PS soc – You’re a fool.
How can you possibly make such a sweeping remark? Surely you’re just trying to stir up the puddin’ here. No one, with your intellect, would actually say something so stunningly stupid. I get it now – your comments are meant to be funny, right?
I think you were trying to argue that even though there are certain laws, they aren’t always enforced. Is that correct?
If so, you choose a bad law. The reason it’s not enforced is because IT’S ILLEGAL!!! The adultery laws are not illegal.
lgm drooled:
You’re an idiot.
What comment are you referring to?
alaskangrizzly said (#189):
Correction: there were Muslims in the US who celebrated 9/11. Also there were Christians in the US who celebrated Christian massacres of Bosnians not long ago.
While this story is covered by the local area news. On the national news I am not seeing much. What a surprise.
bluesoc, i thought you where an attorney or something who thinks it is. For you information the law in Miss. was used in many cases up until 1996 to help blacks in the purchase land and and whites also who did not have money to do so. It was called share cropping.
It was only after the NAACP got involved and forced the law to be changed that it was removed from the books. Since then land ownership has declined by blacks and poor whites within the state of Miss. 54 percent.
While no one should ever murder another human being for any reason and any husband or wife who does so deserves to rot in prison… to equate slavery to adultery is another ludicrous example by nuts like you. Adultery is a crime. Thanks to ilk like you it may not be a criminal offense in the eyes of the law anymore it is still the same moral offense that leaves families scarred and lives ruined and is why God Himself made it clear in the 10 Commandments by putting it right in there. And Jesus upped the ante by pointing out that lust is adultery of the heart.