Green fact of the day

By Michelle Malkin  •  February 17, 2009 11:12 AM

From reader Matthew R, who e-mails: “Obama will use as much energy in flight to CO as the museum’s solar panels can produce in 4 years.”

Thought you might find this interesting – according to the info I found on Boeing’s website and elsewhere, the 747-200 that operates as Air Force One uses anywhere from 5 to 7 gallons of fuel per mile, depending on how full it is. At roughly 1500 miles from DC to Denver, that’s at least 15,000 gallons of fuel round trip. There are 33.4 kilowatt hours of energy in a gallon of fuel, meaning this trip will use about 500,000 kilowatt hours of energy. According to the Denver Museum of Nature and Science’s own website, their solar installation has generated only 90,000 kilowatt hours of energy since it was installed last June!

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  1. #624771
    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:14 pm, mattm said:

    Suddenly my 18 MPG SUV doesn’t see so bad, yet is apparently much worse than The One’s photo op.

  2. #624777
    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:19 pm, wighttrasch said:

    Felt reassuring to know the Marines were on the move.

    And if we can just get a president to go along with ‘Peace through Superior Firepower’…right, Southpaw?

  3. #624793
    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:29 pm, RetFireman said:

    At 500,000kW, that is enough to power 17,241.4 homes for one day. That is the size of most moderate towns in the U.S. that Der Fuhrer will be flying over to sign the American Socialist Manifesto…with all those Chattering Fools clutching their Bibles and guns below him.

    Now, as I recall, every time Bush flew somewhere, there were any number of talking heads and news stories produced concerning all the damage Bush was doing to the environment and how much more could be done with the money he spent traveling etc.

    While I have no idea why Der Fuhrer needs to fly all the way from Chicago…where he flew to have dinner…all the way back to Washington via Andrews to the helicopter, back on the helicopter to Andrews and then to Colorado for a few minutes and then back to Andrews etc. just to sign the first document designed to bring about the end of this nation, I am sure that any number of trolls here can explain it to us in logical, well thought out and concise explanations that lack foul language and hyperbole.

    I dunno…maybe he wants to go skiing. After all, what with all the vacations he has already taken in the 4 weeks since the FIRST time he took the Oath of Office, I am sure he needs a little break. After all, just 4 days ago we were on the brink of complete collapse and utter chaos and anarchy. That bill needed to be signed immediately, so urgent it was that he told Congress they did not have time to read it…just pass it. Well, those 4 days since must have been incredibly stressful on him, as he anxiously prayed and hoped that the country would hold together for just a few more days until he could get his skis waxed and sharpened and MichelleO could find just the right snow bunny outfit to wear that would match the shower curtains in the White House.

    Note also, that while the Libs whined and complained ad nauseum about President Bush taking a vacation, they have not uttered one peep about Der Fuhrer spending almost half the last 4 weeks “resting”. After all…walking on water takes a lot out of a guy.

  4. #624797
    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:31 pm, swede said:

    Dateline Washington:

    Stemming the rise of the oceans to be delayed, so Dear Leader can spew carbon from his POTUS fleet from the mountains, to the praries, to the oceans whiterising with foam…God bless America. Please continue your conservation efforts. The president will join you shortly.

    Film at 11

  5. #624799
    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:32 pm, southcoast said:

    On February 17th, 2009 at 12:57 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On February 17th, 2009 at 12:52 pm, sonofdy said:
    Apparently global warming is a problem.
    Not according to noaa or nasa who both say the planet is COOLING.

    Yes, all the evidence is pointing to the fact that we are now in a global cooling period. You know, that old “cyclical warming and cooling of the earth thing”. Apparently, the true facts take about a year or so to sink in to the liberal’s thick skulls.

    I guess if disagreeing with you makes one a “Liberal” so be it. Thanks for the label.
    It was just my thought that the argument on the mode of transportation of a president should not solely be based on fuel efficiency. Yes it may cost more than the preferred mode of travel of enviro-nitwits (AKA conservationist) like me which we all know is the solar powered beanie w/propeller, however due to cloudy conditions the Secret Service my not deem that safe for Obama or ANY president. I Know, just because every president since Nixon has preached energy conservation AND flown on the big plane, somehow that makes it an invalid moral argument.

    And by the way, I try not to confuse NOAA, GODDARD, IPCC. and NCDC with “It snowed the earth is colder Inofe”.

  6. #624801
    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:35 pm, Southpaw said:

    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:19 pm, wighttrasch said:
    And if we can just get a president to go along with ‘Peace through Superior Firepower’…right, Southpaw?

    Well…that collision between French and British submarines (both carried missles with nuclear warheads) should send a message to our friends, our enemies, our Commander In Chief, what firepower and “peace through strength” really means.
    Even our allies can wreak mighty vengeance.

  7. #624806
    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:37 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I Know, just because every president since Nixon has preached energy conservation AND flown on the big plane, somehow that makes it an invalid moral argument.

    And the reason he needs to sign this in Denver – requiring a ride on the big plane – is…?…

  8. #624807
    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:37 pm, mom2jack said:

    RabidSquirrel:

    I love the smell of napalm in the morning

    Maybe the tone you’re trying to convey doesn’t come through as you intend on a message board, but the fire at the Pentagon was the stench of innocents losing their lives.

  9. #624809
    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:38 pm, simcoe said:

    I have carbon offsets for sale. Taking all major credit cards, cashier checks, or money orders. I can declare any and all carbon based units to be footprintless.

  10. #624810
    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:38 pm, swede said:

    southcoast said:
    I Know, just because every president since Nixon has preached energy conservation AND flown on the big plane, somehow that makes it an invalid moral argument.

    Again, Mr Hope&change is supposed to be Different from the others, right? That’s the point here, same ol same ol.

  11. #624815
    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:41 pm, happy2behere said:

    The math doesn’t really matter – I’m glad someone else sees the irony in Obama flying his entourage out here and wasting all that energy to meet with energy officials and give them a handout of your money.

    Us taxpayers who do not feed off the trough were not invited.

  12. #624823
    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:46 pm, swede said:

    I have carbon offsets for sale. Taking all major credit cards, cashier checks, or money orders. I can declare any and all carbon based units to be footprintless.

    simcoe
    Put me down for a million or two. But I’m a little strapped for cash. Can I pay you when the porkulus gets to me? Thanks

  13. #624825
    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:47 pm, southcoast said:

    And the reason he needs to sign this in Denver – requiring a ride on the big plane – is…?…

    To travel the country (forgotten flyover areas) to push their policy agendas. The same as the Social Security Privatization tour of 2004 (I still have that tour T shirt).

    Or maybe to encourage correctly thinking Americans to gather in a park to wear funny pig hats and eat BBQ.

  14. #624833
    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:54 pm, EdDantes said:

    It’s not that Obama flew to Denver to sign the theft act.

    It’s the fact that he preaches about becoming green, yet turns his thermostat.

    He rails against Wall Street executives for spending taxpayer money on bonuses and lavish lifestyles, and then he uses taxpayer money to throw parties at the white house and fly himself and Michelle to Chicago so they can have Valentine’s dinner.

    He tells CEO’s of the big 3 car companies to carpool to save energy, but he’ll fly 3/4 of the way across the country for a 1 hour photo op.

    I don’t mind him doing all this, but, if he’s going to do it I want him to stop telling me how to live my life.

  15. #624840
    On February 17th, 2009 at 4:00 pm, southcoast said:

    I feel for you. These enviromental policies are wearing me down. So which are you, a Wall Street executive or car company CEO?

  16. #624873
    On February 17th, 2009 at 4:14 pm, John Deaux said:

    On February 17th, 2009 at 2:23 pm, Southpaw said:
    On February 17th, 2009 at 12:34 pm, Craig said:
    Michelle,
    It’s worse than that. President O has likely added water vapor to our atmosphere…the number one contributor to global warming.

    (FYI: Exhaust contrails usually occur at above 26,000 feet. where the temperature is below -40°C.)
    When they grounded all flights after 9/11, I don’t think I’ve ever seen the sky so blue.

    Isn’t it funny that temperatures over the U.S. rose by 1.1 degrees celsius during that time. They supected the contrails reflected solar energy.

    It’s ironic that the greenies would ground all aircraft if they had their way because of the greenhouse gas myth, when in fact, planes help keep us cooler.

  17. #624890
    On February 17th, 2009 at 4:22 pm, RetFireman said:

    We are the people he told can no longer expect to turn on our home A/C and have our homes at a comfortable temperature. We are the ones told we should not expect to drive in whatever vehicle we wish to purchase, etc..

    If you are going to attempt snark, please at least be informed on the subject matter.

  18. #624912
    On February 17th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, RetFireman said:

    Let me see…trees use CO2 to live, converting it into O2 for us to breathe as it is a mandatory requirement to sustain all animal life on the planet.

    Libs and Enviro-nazis are leading an all-out campaign to STOP the production of CO2 in a misguided effort to eliminate a mythical “Global Warming” disaster.

    However, were they to succeed, all life on this planet would cease to exist, for even humans use CO2 to breathe, amongst a great and vast number of other issues such a thing would cause.

    Why is it that people blindly listen to and follow people who so obviously do not even have the knowledge concerning the importance of CO2 that an elementary school child learns in science/biology class?

  19. #624915
    On February 17th, 2009 at 4:32 pm, Southpaw said:

    On February 17th, 2009 at 4:14 pm, John Deaux said:

    Isn’t it funny that temperatures over the U.S. rose by 1.1 degrees celsius during that time. They supected the contrails reflected solar energy.

    It’s ironic that the greenies would ground all aircraft if they had their way because of the greenhouse gas myth, when in fact, planes help keep us cooler.

    Yea, in the wintertime, you can feel it getting colder as the day goes on and that high vapor fills the sky.

    (BTW, those two submarines that collided: They carry the equivalent of 1248 Hiroshima size bombs. Mr. Ahmadinejad, you’ve got some catching up to do. Give up.)

  20. #624931
    On February 17th, 2009 at 4:37 pm, chapoutier said:

    Let me see…trees use CO2 to live, converting it into O2 for us to breathe as it is a mandatory requirement to sustain all animal life on the planet.

    Libs and Enviro-nazis are leading an all-out campaign to STOP the production of CO2 in a misguided effort to eliminate a mythical “Global Warming” disaster.

    Seens to me that the trees and plants did okay without the help of the CO2 we produce. This is such a logically absurd argument. Setting aside whether or not increased CO2 does have a negative effect, just because something is good, beneficial or even necessary at one level does not mean that more and more and more of it is as good or better. After all, we all need some amount of fat and sugar in our diet to survive. I would not suggest just pumping as much into you as you can fit.

  21. #624938
    On February 17th, 2009 at 4:40 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Why is it that people blindly listen to and follow people who so obviously do not even have the knowledge concerning the importance of CO2 that an elementary school child learns in science/biology class?

    You really think they are actually teaching science anymore? Heck no! It’s much more important to teach about things like same sex marriage, and reading books like Heather Has Two Mommies!

    And people wonder why we lag in science and math.

  22. #625000
    On February 17th, 2009 at 5:14 pm, southcoast said:

    On February 17th, 2009 at 4:40 pm, BlameLiberalAmericaFirst said:

    You really think they are actually teaching science anymore? Heck no! It’s much more important to teach about things like same sex marriage, and reading books like Heather Has Two Mommies!

    And people wonder why we lag in science and math.

    Reading “Heather Has Two Mommies” causes global warming. I lerndt that in my Creationism class.

  23. #625023
    On February 17th, 2009 at 5:24 pm, simcoe said:

    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:38 pm, simcoe said:

    I have carbon offsets for sale. Taking all major credit cards, cashier checks, or money orders. I can declare any and all carbon based units to be footprintless.

    Additional special!

    The first 1,000 carbon based units who purchase offsets will receive a free pet rock guaranteed to be of breeding age. If it does not breed within the first year your footprint will be returned at no cost to you.

  24. #625026
    On February 17th, 2009 at 5:27 pm, wighttrasch said:

    Reading “Heather Has Two Mommies” causes global warming. I lerndt that in my Creationism class.

    Well, that’s as valid as Algore’s credentials. He probably learned it there too.

  25. #625032
    On February 17th, 2009 at 5:32 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On February 17th, 2009 at 3:37 pm, mom2jack said:

    RabidSquirrel:

    Is it too soon?

    No seriously, I debating posting it but the play was on ’stank’ rather than this being a thread on 9/11. And the Pentagon is a physical object rather than a person, so I went with it. And the imagery of Chap standing in DC with his hands on his hips facing into the wind was just too much to pass up.

    Did you know that Robert Duvall played ‘Boo’ Radley in ‘Too Kill A Mockingbird?’ I did not know that until last week…

  26. #625038
    On February 17th, 2009 at 5:36 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    swede said:
    Put me down for a million or two. But I’m a little strapped for cash. Can I pay you when the porkulus gets to me? Thanks

    Good news! I just got my new printing press up and running in my basement and now I’m finally catching up with the backlog. My prices can’t be beat anywhere!

    I can offer you a 20 billion ton carbon offset certificate for only $19.95 plus S&H ! (Easy credit terms are available for illegals.)

  27. #625040
    On February 17th, 2009 at 5:37 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Heather Has Two Mommies!

    That may be so, but there are a lot of college age girls with two extra Daddys also ( Sugar and WhosUr )

  28. #625050
    On February 17th, 2009 at 5:46 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    chapoutier said: Seens to me that the trees and plants did okay without the help of the CO2 we produce. This is such a logically absurd argument. Setting aside whether or not increased CO2 does have a negative effect, just because something is good, beneficial or even necessary at one level does not mean that more and more and more of it is as good or better. After all, we all need some amount of fat and sugar in our diet to survive. I would not suggest just pumping as much into you as you can fit

    Wrong AGW breath; from my post on page 1:

    For almost a century, greenhouse operators have know that and boost CO2 in their greenhouses to speed up growth of crops from tomatoes to flowers.

    (Pay close attention to that CO2 versus growth chart.)

    Not only that, back when plants first evolved, CO2 was MUCH higher than now. In 600 million years there were only two relatively brief periods when CO2 was below 400 PPM. One was back ~380 million years ago and the other is right NOW! Plants are CO2 impoverished.

  29. #625055
    On February 17th, 2009 at 5:50 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Well, that’s as valid as Algore’s credentials.

    The only credentials Algore has are his rich dad and his inheritance of the tobacco stocks.

  30. #625063
    On February 17th, 2009 at 5:54 pm, wighttrasch said:

    my point exactly, Blame

  31. #625069
    On February 17th, 2009 at 6:01 pm, southcoast said:

    BlameAmericaLast said:

    The only credentials Algore has are his rich dad and his inheritance of the tobacco stocks.

    My mother (one of the two)taught me if you can’t say something nice about someone, quit playing on their internet (or tubes for you Stevens fans).

  32. #625074
    On February 17th, 2009 at 6:05 pm, John Deaux said:

    On February 17th, 2009 at 6:01 pm, southcoast said:

    My mother (one of the two)taught me if you can’t say something nice about someone, quit playing on their internet (or tubes for you Stevens fans).

    Then why are you still here?

  33. #625078
    On February 17th, 2009 at 6:09 pm, southcoast said:

    Then why are you still here?

    Because Al made the internet machines for all manbearpig kind!

  34. #625115
    On February 17th, 2009 at 6:46 pm, granite said:

    On February 17th, 2009 at 5:32 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Did you know that Robert Duvall played ‘Boo’ Radley in ‘Too Kill A Mockingbird?’ I did not know that until last week…

    Yep.

    Duvall also played the cabbie that drove Steve McQueen around in “Bullitt” (1968).

  35. #625176
    On February 17th, 2009 at 7:41 pm, chapoutier said:

    Dances,

    That is super for the flora, maybe not so good for the fauna.

  36. #625196
    On February 17th, 2009 at 8:12 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    If you haven’t seen it yet, I found one site in particular to be very informative and updated regularly with the latest on the fight against global warming alarmism including both the science and the spin.

    http://icecap.us/
    An example entry for Feb 16 –

    Data show 2008 ranked 14th coldest of the 30 years measured by NASA satellite instruments since they were first launched in 1979. It was the coldest year since 2000.

    Astronaut and PHD geologist Harrison Schmitt, (who’s been to the moon BTW), speaks about global warming:

    Schmitt contends that scientists “are being intimidated” if they disagree with the idea that burning fossil fuels has increased carbon dioxide levels, temperatures and sea levels. “They’ve seen too many of their colleagues lose grant funding when they haven’t gone along with the so-called political consensus that we’re in a human-caused global warming,” Schmitt said.

  37. #625344
    On February 18th, 2009 at 1:03 am, southcoast said:

    Danceswithdachshunds said:I found one site in particular to be very informative and updated regularly with the latest on the fight against global warming alarmism including both the science and the spin.
    Data show 2008 ranked 14th coldest of the 30 years measured by NASA satellite instruments since they were first launched in 1979. It was the coldest year since 2000.

    NOAA: 2008 Global Temperature Ties as Eighth Warmest on Record

    January 14, 2009

    The year 2008 tied with 2001 as the eighth warmest year on record for the Earth, based on the combined average of worldwide land and ocean surface temperatures through December, according to a preliminary analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. For December alone, the month also ranked as the eighth warmest globally, for the combined land and ocean surface temperature. The assessment is based on records dating back to 1880.

    The analyses in NCDC’s global reports are based on preliminary data, which are subject to revision. Additional quality control is applied to the data when late reports are received several weeks after the end of the month and as increased scientific methods improve NCDC’s processing algorithms.

    NCDC’s ranking of 2008 as the eighth warmest year compares to a ranking of ninth warmest based on an analysis by NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies. The NOAA and NASA analyses differ slightly in methodology, but both use data from NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center – the federal government’s official source for climate data.

  38. #625359
    On February 18th, 2009 at 3:01 am, garyganu said:

    You got it all wrong Michelle,Obama is actually helping conserve energy. Haven’t you heard? He had Air force one “tuned-up” and he checked the air in the tires of the landing gear. Silly girl, carbon footprints are for deniers.

    garyganu

  39. #625429
    On February 18th, 2009 at 8:18 am, John Deaux said:

    On February 18th, 2009 at 1:03 am, southcoast said:

    It’s all in how you report it. Read the headline and it says January was the warmest on record. Look at the state by state data and you’ll see that most states were below normal and two even had record lows. Of course, people don’t provide funding to find out why everything is normal, do they?

  40. #625435
    On February 18th, 2009 at 8:24 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Dr. Richard Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology is no longer wasting his time trying to refute the fraud – he is going after the fraudsters themselves. He sees the LIBERAL AGENDA in government paid ‘climate science’ and is attacking it directly. EVERYONE SHOULD READ AND UNDERSTAND THIS PAPER BY DR. LINDZEN! “Climate Science – Is It Designed to Answer Questions?”


    Full PDF found here.

  41. #625436
    On February 18th, 2009 at 8:25 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    southcoast said:

    Additional quality control is applied to the data when late reports are received several weeks after the end of the month and as increased scientific methods improve NCDC’s processing algorithms.

    Government HACKS! The MSU data is calibrated ONCE against a SINGLE standard – satellite data is the one source of data that the HACKS have a VERY difficult time justifying any adjustments. In other words … their claims are NOT based on RAW temperature data! The HACKS like James Hansen are TWEEKING THE SURFACE DATA any way they want to in order to make it appear that warming is still occuring!

    They kept hanging on to the ‘hockey stick’ chart until it was PROVEN by Steve McIntyre to be false. Now they hang on this ‘Antarticia is warming’ but it’s already been discovered that their result is NOT based on unadulterated time contiguous temperature data – they STITCHED together data from various temperature stations and claim that they properly adjusted the result – they did not. NEITHER station shows warming but when you put them together in time they show warming!

    You know where James Hansen can STUFF his lame adjustments…

  42. #625438
    On February 18th, 2009 at 8:25 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    For example of how these hacks LIE with data and use BAD data, just go to http://surfacestations.org/ to learn the TRUTH about temperature monitoring stations and how the Urban Heat Island Effect TOTALLY corrupts the US temperature record. Go to the bottom of the page and see an example of your precious GISS. That’s where a LOT of this ‘global warming’ is ACTUALLY coming from! It ain’t global, it ain’t even regional – it’s total LOCAL! How else can anyone explain the difference in RAW data between a station in an unchanged environment in Orland CA and one in Marysville CA …. ONLY 70 MILES AWAY???

    HMMM?

    You can spew your lame HACK results but the BOTTOM LINE is that virtually ALL of the reports that are being generated to claim that global warming is still occuring is by people PAID BY THE GOVERNMENT to say so, (like to the tune of 5 billion dollars of OUR tax money per year going to promote a LIE). The NON government scientists are the ones who are telling the TRUTH – most do not stand to lose their jobs based on the outcome of the research, (some do but are telling the truth anyway because they are honest people.)

    The liberal politicalization of science in government is now obvious and DOWNRIGHT SICKENING.

  43. #625456
    On February 18th, 2009 at 8:58 am, John Deaux said:

    On February 18th, 2009 at 8:25 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    I remebr an article a while back from a guy who was traveling and checking on these surface stations. He found one that was on the roof of a building with the A/C unit blowing hot air on it.

  44. #625459
    On February 18th, 2009 at 9:01 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    What really says it all and bears repeating is that the global warming alarmist’s best friend is actually UBANIZATION. With over 2/3 of the US climate monitoring stations surveyed, (rigorously – bullet proof, with photos and diagrams for every station), OVER FIFTY-EIGHT PERCENT OF THEM HAVE AN ARTIFICIAL HEAT SOURCE WITHIN 10 METERS!!!

    That’s estimated to introduce an error of AT LEAST TWO DEGREES (C).

    … remind me again … how many degrees of global warming did the IPCC say occurred over the last century?

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