Breaking: Obama to ration oxygen
No, not really. But hell, why not?
This is the actual headline:
E.P.A. Expected to Regulate Carbon Dioxide
The Environmental Protection Agency is expected to act for the first time to regulate carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases that scientists blame for the warming of the planet, according to top Obama administration officials.
The decision, which most likely would play out in stages over a period of months, would have a profound impact on transportation, manufacturing costs and how utilities generate power.
Translation: Another billion, trillion, multiple gazillion down the drain in the name of our savior-based economy.
I can’t breathe.
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Why not indeed. I heard on the radio yesterday about someplace charging for every toilet flush.
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Rationing oxygen…? Hey liberals, you first! Hold your breath for about 10 minutes. Just think of the amazing contribution to saving the planet you would make! You try it for 10 minutes or so and if it works, we will do it too.
Australia, to help combat the drought.
I wonder when the Sheryl Crow toilet paper tax will go into effect. Just a quarter a sheet to save the planet!
Exhale in moderation. I know that I always try to exhale directly into a house plant, or in heavily wooded areas when outdoors.
Does anyone want to purchase some carbon credits from me?
We should throw a tantrum and hold our breath until we’re blue in the face. That would suspend CO2 for a short while.
My suggestion is invest heavily in the Beano corporation as farmers will have to start feeding them to their cows to cut down on the methane.
This country is becoming unhinged!
We exhale CO2! God these people are idiots! CO2 is not a pollutant!
Isn’t that in the health care reforms part of the porkulus bill? If your too old to contribute to society, we’ll withhold your oxygen refills to save money.
So if the majority says the Earth is flat, does this mean the Earth is flat?
The Supreme Court declared CO2 a pollutant, which it is not. They obviously don’t understand photosynthesis or cellular respiration for that matter.
As usual with the newspaper whose stock price is now less than a Sunday copy, gets it totally wrong … The Supreme Court said that the EPA ‘can’ regulate CO2, it did not say it ‘must’ regulate CO2. In fact, the Supreme Court said the EPA could defer judgment, because the science is complex. The science wizards on the Supreme Court are now pronouncing science, didn’t this used to be the church’s responsibility.
The Supreme Court certainly did NOT issue an order that CO2 must be regulated.
Even so does this mean the EPA must rid the atmosphere of all CO2? Why not? Who determines how much is too much? Carbon life forms would cease to exist on Earth without atmospheric CO2.
Read the ruling here, http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/06slipopinion.html — it’s numbered 05-1120 in pdf form.
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The GREENIE AGENDA is about to launch. The war on carbon dioxide is part of the “save the planet from global warming” craze.
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The shutdown of a lot of our coal fired power plants is probably coming soon. Those that are not shut down will have to install very costly equipment to “recapture” CO2. Our electricity costs will be going up soon–and we will probably have energy shortages and rolling blackouts.
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C02 is removed naturally–we call this God given plan TREES!
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The so called “stimulus” plan did not allocate money for building more nuclear power plants or for drill here / drill now energy improvements. This would have been economic stimulus you can believe in–with real payback.
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If you think the stock market and our economy is in trouble now–wait a few years until the costs of the failed greenie energy policies comes home to roost.
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John Bibb
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This should come as no surprise. Chairman 0 is on record as saying he hope to bankrupt the coal industry. One must wonder whether these people are operating on malice, stupidity, or malicious stupidity.
If malice, the point of these Neo-Marxists is to destroy the American economy, to bring it to parity with the rest of the world and so devastate the private sector as to create the socialist utopian state of their dreams and our nightmares; from coast-to-coast, a Detroit economy coupled with a San Francisco culture.
If stupidity, it’s because the lawyers, bureaucrats, and community organizers of Chairman 0’s base really think that carbon is evil and it’s possible to run a modern society on fairy dust and unicorn farts.
I favor malicious stupidity. They know there will be negative consequences to their quest for environmental purity, but they don’t care because they think only other people will suffer.
You may not be too far off…So goes grandma’s oxygen tubing with the soon-to-be healthcare plan.
Eerie how “Atlas Shrugged” seems to be playing out bit by bit, isn’t it?
To paraphrase the First Lady:
“Think of the trees!”
I did not realize that oxygen was a greenhouse gas, and requires regulation or rationing.
Instead of Obama and the Democrats expending all that time, money and energy devising new and different ways to take more and more of American’s income, they should just get straight to the point and tell us how much we can keep. It’d be a lot simpler.
But Obama flies, unnecessarily, to Denver and AZ to sign bills he could have signed at the White House.
Typical HYPOCRITES.
Well actually, yes really, you are correct Michelle! Limiting CO2 directly limits O2 .
The more CO2 plants get – the more O2 they emit! Those two gases plus H2O all work together in photosynthesis so the statement you thought was an exageration really is not in the long run.
CO2 is just as much a gas of LIFE as is oxygen – we cannot survive without EITHER of them.
Oxygen maybe not directly but the process of condensing available oxygen does cause the resulting CO2 concentration to go up. Most folks at home are on concentrators. They take the available oxygen in the room, thinking it runs about 21 percent, “concentrate it”, then make it available to patients. So that what is delivered through the tubing is a higher concentration of oxygen than what is considered room air.
If you were to test the air in a room that is closed, the result would be a higher percent of carbon dioxide simply due to the effect of removing a certain percent of the free oxygen.
So yes oxygen can increase CO2, given the kind of science we are already seeing mind you regarding global warming, in a way that these nut cakes would decide we need to regulate/tax oxygen.
Sadly I can see them doing so.
Wish they would regulate Obama’s hot air!
Really funny seeing this story next to the forest fire picture (for Environmentalism Kills … Again). Is The One also going to stop the forest fires from consuming all our precious O2 and converting it to CO2?
The USS United States is sinking fast. Obama and his cohorts can only drill more holes in the boat and then stuff the leaks with trillion dollar bills.
God help us, we’re doomed, and the rest of the world laughs.
Would it help if we all breathed slower? We could try!
I desperately want a bumper stick that says:
To be a LIBERAL you’ve GOTTA BELIEVE that it’s Green to limit what plants thrive on.
Of all “problems” to identify and fixate on. Fairly insane.
Don’t breathe OUT. It’s the patriotic thing to do.
CO2 doesn’t either. You ever run a greenhouse? I have 3 very large ones and I can tell you that I NEED CO2 to make my plants grow. The dominant warming factor in any greenhouse is WATER VAPOR. I’m so sick of hearing about how CO2 is such an evil gas. It’s essential for life on this planet.
How much Co2 did Obama and Biden create going to Denver and then to Arizona? They had to fly on seperate planes, take two different security details, two different sets of media, and two limos to drive in. Plus all the gas they created when talking about how the stimulus was going to create more jobs.
Not really. The person getting the oxygen rich mixture has an equal respiration rate as anyone else. They do not actually absorb any more oxygen than someone not using a concentrator – the excess just goes back into the room when they exhale. (If the person used more then I’d agree with ya…)
That’s the plan.
God is the only One who can help us.
Brilliant!
Go ahead. The worse it gets, the further the pendulum swings to our side when common sense takes back over.
Sucking: good.
Blowing: bad.
Got it.
Amen – and not only do we need them to purify our air, but they provide food, shelter, and beauty to our world. Isn’t God’s creation grand?
Brought to you by the same Liberals who, for 7 years following 9-11 and for over 8 if you include their attempt to convince the world that President Bush “stole” the 2000 election, regardless of every single independent investigating finding in favor of President Bush winning, who had been claiming that President Bush was taking away your freedoms and your rights. The same people who claimed President Bush had thrown away the Constitution, had destroyed it, ripped it up and caused irreparable damage etc.
Yet in less than a month, this country has accepted with loud cheers, Socialism and the Neo-Marxist changes that will take generations, if at all, to repair.
Der Fuhrer will now effectively tell you where you can go, how you can go, what type of conveyance you must use to get there, how much you can breathe, etc., etc., etc.
If the things that he and the rest of Congress have either presented or already signed into law are not the epitome of the destruction of you freedoms and rights, then I plain do not now what is.
And people continue to allow it and allow this country to die with the echoes of applause ringing through the land.
God help the “Obama Supporter” who decides to express his love and adoration for this usurper in my presence.
plant more trees now. it’s amazing that after moving out of an apartment as a life-long renter to the near suburbs that people don’t plant trees in their yard. why?
join the arbor day foundation
http://www.arborday.org/
other than that, all this CO2 stuff is bunk. other than personal responsibility for the world around you, this green movement is a crock.
i’m both conserviative and a conservationist — aren’t most of us?
Socky said: 0’s base really think that carbon is evil and it’s possible to run a modern society on fairy dust and unicorn farts.
I thought it was fairy farts and renewable rainbows.
Here is my suggestion to Congress to limit the release of CO2 into the air….stop giving those long winded theatrical speeches!! Just think about how much good that would do not only for the enviornment, but for our sanity as well.
Paul Revere– Yes indeed. We all exhale. Perhaps these people of little intelligence nor education missed that lesson in 5th Grade Science class.
Or they are about to use this to either tax people for exhaling or prevent us which is in keeping with communist actions in USSR. Kill anyone who resists.
Don Feder’s #5 of 10 impossible things liberals believe before breakfast – and for the rest of the day.
I wouldn’t be surprised to find the answer is due to some sort of tree tax. Luckily for me my house is in the middle of a forest, so plenty of trees and fresh air and not very many liberals (they all live in the city).
If you want to see a great IMAX movie that will have you rolling with laughter in the first few minutes go see Creatures of the Deep. In the first say 5 minutes of the film they debunk the whole man made global warming deal (with scientific fact) and probably dont realize they did it. It states that millions of years ago the earth was so much warmer than it is now to the point that the polar icecaps really did not exist and do to this almost all life was sea life.
Maybe that’s what Obama thought we meant when we chanted, Drill, baby, drill!!
This would all be funny if the results weren’t so devastating. I read part of a study the other day that makes the point that CO2 levels are at historic lows, having been this low only once previously since measurements have been taken. The simple fact is, as always, that the left has absolutely no idea what the proper level should be, and whether we’re above or below it. Nor will they deal with the common sense questions that arise. It’s similar in some ways to the Clinton Administration order to reduce the arsenic levels in the Hudson River to zero. That’s well below normal background levels, in other words impossible to achieve – and undesirable as well, since trace amounts of elements like arsenic are necessary for life.
Even that is over-blown. The forest cover % of the USA has remaining virtually unchanged for the last 100 years.
Heh.
Funny how the metapors meet:
Stupidly adding more gasoline to the fire that one started, as the socialists are now striving mightily to do;
is just like stupidly drilling holes in the boat that one flooded, as the socialists are now striving mightily to do – and as Moe, Larry & Curly strove to do ~70 years ago….
No, it is definitely fairy dust and unicorn farts.
All those who believe carbon dioxide is a pollutant should do the right thing for all of us and stop breathing.
I’m many years removed from my chemistry classes, but I believe the dominant warming factor in a greenhouse is the sun. In fact, evaporation is a cooling process and water vapor is a result, not a cause – otherwise it’d be hotter over the oceans than land, and from my time in California, I can assure you it isn’t.
In all seriousness, the ramifications of this expected regulation will have severely negative impacts on our economy. (As if we’re not getting hammered enough!) But what is one more hole in the bottom of the boat, right?
Isn’t THAT indeed at the very core of liberalism? They want to be the ones to CONTROL EVERYTHING whether they know the right thing to do with such control .. or not – especially the climate. I’d hand them then reins to do it if they would only do one little itty bitty thing before they start – tell me the CORRECT amount CO2 that is supposed to be in the air – AND WHY? Tell me the CORRECT temperature for the planet and WHY?
Nobody knows the answers to those but, damn it – these OUTRAGEOUSLY ARROGANT liberals want to control them anyway.
And along the East Coast, it’s much higher – less land cleared for farming. In colonial times, much of what is now forest was farmland.
Rationing oxygen? Where does this administration get its environmental policy – Spaceballs?
Does that make Obama “President Scroob” and Rahm “Dark Helmet”?
Yeah, lets see Omoron limit CO2, then the trees and plants start to die. Liberal meddling until there is nothing left to meddle with.
Yep.
In New England, the stone walls one sees along roads, and some of which run into the woods, demarcated pastures, if I remember right.
This is a long, but very good, refutation of just about every global warming myth today.
From the American Thinker
Here is just one quote:
It wouldn’t make much difference because of the Albedo effect.
obama said he was going to destroy the coal business and the coal burning electricity business, and our union folks said great. so start buying your batteries and solar panels, and call in that union electrician to fix you up. it’s your patriotic duty.
Better yet, if someone could only find a way to harness the hotair coming from Congress we could truly be energy independent forever!
Very true, and without coal and steel, wood was also the only resource back in the 18th century. Around cities/towns along the east coast, the land was completely NUDE of trees for many miles especially here in the Northeast right along the coast where forests disappeared to build ships along with houses and for heating, etc. Nahant Mass for example did not have a SINGLE tree left growing on it for over a hundred years. You’d never know that seeing it today.
We fortunately have the consolation that what they’re attempting to do is virtually impossible without remove a significant percentage of all air-breathing life from the face of the planet – although I wouldn’t put it past them. After all, they’re already killing people (especially babies) by the million, why not cows and horses and deer and bears and caribou and other life? And given that they not only have no qualms about killing babies but actively promote and fund it, you can’t imagine anything that would be beyond their idiocy.
Given his style of traveling to a symbolic place to announce his stimulus and housing initatives, the appropraite place to announce this initiative given the science supporting it would be Salem, MA.
I’m discussing it within the parameters of the inside of a greenhouse as the libs are wont to do. Of course the sun is the dominant force, but within a greenhouse it is water vapor that holds the majority of the heat. Your equating that to the oceans is not the same because the water vapor has a place to go other than over the body of water where it became vapor.
The inmates are now running the asylum. Sarcasm and satire is the only way I can maintain my sanity in this world gone freakin’ mad.
That’s because this fascist, Democratic Socialist Communist is
suffocating this country.
On purpose.
“Citizen of the World” on a Journey to Bring USA to Its Knees
I suggest we all buy very good generators while we can still find them.
That sure sounds right.
Remembering way back to high-school physics:
“Water at 100 degrees C will scald you; but, steam at 100 degrees C will peel you!”;
and college physical chemistry, which taught that the specific heat of water vapor is 6 times (I think!) that of water.
Discussing things within the parameters that libs use is a big part of the problem. The fact remains that the water vapor isn’t the source of the heat. And one of the reasons it feels hotter in the greenhouse (aside from the effects of the sun) is because the high content of water vapor in the air decreases evaporation of sweat, which of course is your body’s cooling mechanism.
Won’t do you any good if they ration gas or ban generators without castalytic converters or other means of CO2 control.
On February 19th, 2009 at 12:02 pm, granite said:
That sure sounds right.
But the water vapor is storing heat, not generating it. When you remove the heat source, the water vapor loses energy and condenses back to water. That’s why the humidity is low in the Arctic and high in the tropics. To extrapolate that to “global warming”, the only solution would be to either extinguish the sun or empty the oceans. Lots of luck with that.
THE NUMBER ONE GREENHOUSE GAS IS WATER.
…and not one of these brain dead robots has the huevos to say it out loud.
I demand to see the science behind their dulusion – not statistics, SCIENCE.
When health care is rationed and energy prices are through the roof as Obama promised during the campaign, you are going to have the elderly living in cold houses in the winter and hot houses in the summer, which is going to increase their incidence of illness.
With health care rationed, one can pretty much predict that the death rate among seniors is going to significantly increase and life expectancy is going to plateau or even drop.
I guess that is a positive for Social Security. This is beginning to look like the game Hamurabi.
The alternative to warming is cooling. Humanity won’t do well in an Ice Age.
I guess I am just naturally suspicious of influence groups who want to use the global warming controversy to gain power and force change, while China gets away with devastating pollution. It makes me wonder if power is what they are really after.
But you sure can type.
txvet2 said (#48):
You need sun, but you also need glass. Glass lets the sun in but doesn’t let the heat out. CO2 in the air works like the glass, letting in the light but absorbing the heat.
Technically, light and heat are radiation of different wavelengths. Light is shorter waves and heat longer. Both CO2 and glass have the property that shorter waves go through but longer waves are absorbed. That’s the theory of the greenhouse effect.
What bugs me about MM and the others is that liberals endure constant grousing and ridicule, but we actually do the responsible things that make it possible for you to continue. You should be grateful rather than spiteful. You should be grateful that Saint Obama has come again to save you from the dark Prince Bush.
You’re still missing the point. The sun doesn’t hold the heat, the water vapor holds the heat. The sun generates the heat. I never stated that the water vapor caused the heat. I stated it was the dominant warming factor on the inside. It doesn’t just FEEL hotter in a greenhouse, it IS hotter. I have empirical proof of that.
In any case, this is just a side argument. The entire point of my bringing it up is that CO2 doesn’t cause any warming. It’s the water vapor (along with other gases) in the atmosphere that helps hold the heat, not the CO2. Water vapor is far more prevalent in our atmosphere than CO2 and people can’t control that either.
At the risk of feeding a troll, you speak of things of which you know little to nothing. Most greenhouses do not have glass. None of mine do and none of the others of any growers I know do either. Your argument makes no sense.
If you want to talk about how bad government health care is look no further than a memeber of the armed forces or their spouses.
Contradiction in one paragraph. If CO2 works like glass, then you don’t need the glass.
Now when someone describes something as breathtaking, you’ll wonder if it was government mandated!
Agreed!
Which is why when people say, “It’s too cold to snow,” what is meant is not that snowflakes cannot form and fall at that temperature;
rather, at that temperature (very cold) the amount of water vapor, the source of the snow, is much lower – the air is drier; so there is a smaller chance of snow, and the amount of snow, if some does fall, will typically be not very much.
I think I have it right!
Yeah, yeah, sure you want facts, but the Secret Service is on the way over to your house right now to check for extra CO2. It’s OK if they have a look around without a warrant isn’t it?
Which is why I pay for health insurance through my work and do not use TriCare, which I am eligible for.
I do the same thing and am so much happier on private helath care. I still think it would make a powerful commercial to interview military spouses about helathcare to let the people know what it is they are being talked into.
ummm…don’t plants need CO2 to breathe?…or has the “myth of photosynthesis” been debunked?…
Besides his VooDoo economics, now we have to suffer through Dear Leader’s Voodoo science!
I refer you to:
Fallen Angels (1991) (ISBN 0-7434-3582-6) is a Prometheus Award-winning novel by science fiction authors Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle, and Michael Flynn published by Jim Baen.
Maybe not so “fiction” after all…
What do the nutroots and the anthropogenic global warming theorists have against my plants? They NEED CO2!
Hope is not a plan; not all change is good. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST!!
ECS
Truesoldier,
I totally agree, it would be a very effective ad.
Which would be we have such a thing as lake effect snow. The lakes are still evaporating, resulting in snow for nearby areas.
Yep.
Lake effect snow downwind from the lake.
A little basic thermodynamics is called for to understand global temperature.
We have an energy source: The sun
The sun transfers it’s energy to the earth by means of radiation
The side of the earth facing the sun, absorbs some of this radiation and the earth warms. The side facing away (as well as the side facing the sun) radiates energy out into space. The only mechanism for heat to leave the planet is radiation.
Guess what – it’s balanced. Radiation in equals radiation out. If the amount of the radiation reaching earth changes, the temperature will change. (The sun has more sun spots or less or the earth is slightly closer or further away in it’s orbit for instance.) Though this simplifies it slightly (taking out such things as emissivity and reflective factors), the radiation in or out levels are pretty independent of mankind. For man to argue that he’s changed either side of that equation is simply arrogant. Until God re-writes the laws of thermodynamics, it always has been and always will be.
Where is chap beating the drum for O-dumba$$’ plan to tax the air we breathe? Yep, the liberals have found a way – FINALLY – to tax the air we breathe.
STOOOOOPID VOTERS.
Then once again, they show their hypocrisy. Everyone knows that farts are methane and thus a “greenhouse gas” Thy are doing the damage with magical farts.
And once again, just when you think he couldn’t get any stupider, lgm breaks out and proves there is no end to his stupidity.
Hey moron…go take an elementary school biology course so you will understand just how necessary CO2 is for all life on this planet and why you need it in order to simply breathe. You of all people should be grateful for it, for if it was not gor the involuntary action it caused which makes you breathe, you would just plain forget to.
Oh, good lord, you mentioned sun spots. Now the liberals are going to try and figure a way to tax us during high sun spot activity.
Last night on the news out of Boston, they were talking about having a tax on plastic bags there and I said to my husband: Liberals will tax just about anything for more and more money… next thing you know they’ll be taxing us for the air we breathe.” I thought I was being funny but maybe it really will be the next step!
You mean the Medical Hobby Shop? Where you see a different doctor every time you go (no continuity of care)? You and/or the doctors move every couple years? You’re allotted 15 minutes for your appointment and the doctor spends most of that time filling in paperwork? Where clinic manpower decisions aren’t based on providing quality care for the population?
Don’t know nuthin’ about it.
On in Boston Harbor – literally.