Crushing of dissent in the Age of Obama
You can’t use crazed, frenzied chimps in cartoons to criticize the crazed, frenzied passage of the stimulus. (Yes, there are now protests being staged against the NYPost.)
You can’t say “Thug Thizzle” or “That One” or “Tricked Out” or wear white or put Franklin Raines in a campaign ad
And, now, you can’t make statements about abortion on your bumper that criticize His High Holiness without risking arrest:
An Oklahoma City police officer wrongly pulled over a man last week and confiscated an anti-President Barack Obama sign the man had on his vehicle.
The officer misinterpreted the sign as threatening, said Capt. Steve McCool, of the Oklahoma City Police Department, and took the sign, which read “Abort Obama, not the unborn.”
Chip Harrison said he was driving to work when a police car followed him for several miles and then signaled for him to pull over.”I pulled over, knowing I hadn’t done anything wrong,” Harrison said in a recent phone interview.
When the officer asked Harrison if he knew why he had been pulled over, Harrison said he did not.”They said, ‘It’s because of the sign in your window,’” Harrison said.
”It’s not meant to be a threat, it’s a statement about abortion,” Harrison said.
…The officers confiscated Harrison’s sign and gave him a slip of paper that stated he was part of an investigation. Harrison said he later received a call from a person who said he was a lieutenant supervisor for the Internal Investigations Department and wanted to know his location and return his sign to him. According to Harrison, the supervisor said the Secret Service had been contacted on the matter and had told them the sign was not a threat to the president.
Nation of cowards, anyone?
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Why did he let the SS into his house? No warrant, no enter.
Exactly, Yates just got an abortion in her 32nd trimester.
Okay, everyone who is probably going to disagree with me, flame on:
First of all, a bumper sticker that says “abort Obama, not the unborn” is clearly intended to be a protest against his ultra-liberal stance and actions on abortion. However, since we can assume the person who put said sticker on his car is opposed to abortion and believes it is murder, we can, if we stretch a bit, see the sticker as a call for the murder of Obama.
However, it was quickly determined that his sign was, indeed, strictly a statement against abortion and not a threat to our President, and the sign was returned.
Perhaps the officer who confiscated the sign was “over-zealous” and “over-partisan”, as Chap pointed out (would he have done the same to someone with a sticker on his/her car that directly called for the assassination of Bush? I’d be interested to know that) and should have been discplined when the man with the sign was determined to not be a threat.
All in all, since the sign was returned and the man who had it was left alone once he was cleared as a potential threat, I’d say, no harm, no foul. This was not a case of dissent being “crushed”.
In a country where dissent was being “crushed”, that man would have been ordered at gunpoint to give up his sign, then thrown in prison without a trial.
Just use the word President
If this poor guy is “under investigation” for his anti-abortion signage, than my husband is destined for permanent solitary confinement in the near future. You should see some of the stickers on the back of his SUV!
If I had the SS at my door for this, I would feel extremely harmed and fouled!
Two words: Stupid cop.
I saw this story in its entirety earlier today. Looks like everyone up the chain did their job fairly promptly, so I am not getting in a lather over this one.
I’d rather spend my time beating up Eric Holder, who richly deserves to get beat up for his comments.
Atty. Gen. Eric Holder says, “We are all cowards on race.”
Yea, we are cowards, because we will not stand up and say that there is one race in this country that is mired in a culture of entitlement, laziness and incompetence.
I receive medical care from the VA. The doctors and other skilled medical people are just fine. But the clerical staff is filled with “diversity hires,” many of whom are utterly incompetent and have huge attitudes.
I had an appointment this morning with a VA cardiology clinic, which is a rather critical area of medicine. I had to cancel this appointment which I spent all day yesterday trying to do. The %&^%$ clerks in the clinic, as their usual custom, would not answer their phone but let everything go to voicemail. They probably listen to the voice mail, just to see if they have any PERSONAL messages. But they did not return my calls or cancel the appointment. A very nice nurse practitioner called me sometime after the appointment hour to be sure that I hadn’t had a heart attack. When I told her my experience, she apologized and said with exasperation that they “were having clerical issues.”
The &(**&^*^ federal government can not even get their ^&*@#* diversity hires to answer the &&$()$ telephone in a critical-care clinic. It boggles the mind.
This is the situation throughout the VA, although some people, including some of the black staff, do double work to keep the thing going despite the huge number of completely worthless diversity hires in the clerical jobs.
Soon, this will be the service everyone will get in medical care, mortgages, and who knows where.
(Excuse me…I shouldn’t say such things during Black History month, part of the non-stop celebration of dismal failure.)
Well, Eric Holder, I am not a coward. I am doing ~my~ part to talk about race in this country. Enjoy.
I thought the moonbat mantra said “dissent is patriotic”…
I guess they’ve had a collective change of heart.
On February 19th, 2009 at 11:41 am, hunter said:
All in all, since the sign was returned and the man who had it was left alone once he was cleared as a potential threat, I’d say, no harm, no foul.
If I had the SS at my door for this, I would feel extremely harmed and fouled!
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I pointed out the difference between what happened here and real SS tactics.
Would the SS have given the sign back?
Would the SS have left him alone once he was determined not to be a threat to our President?
I’m guessing the answer to both is “no”. Should the sign have been taken in the first place? Is it reasonable to see a sign that says to “abort” a particular person instead of the unborn as a threat? That is up for debate. But these were not SS tactics.
Wow. Self-imposed fascism in AmeriKKKa.
On February 19th, 2009 at 11:46 am, madmonkphotog said:
Wow. Self-imposed fascism in AmeriKKKa.
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The man is not in prison.
His sign was given back.
Where, exactly, is the “fascism”?
chapoutier I am having a hard time thinking you are really that stupid: WHAT THREAT? How is it illegal to belong to a group, hateful or not, that does not advocate crimes? What reason did the Secret Service have to believe this man belonged to such a group? Americans are NOT to prove they did not commit a crime; if the government has reasonable cause get a warrant. Will the policeman be prosecuted for “Civil Rights Violation: Abuse of Civil Rights under color of authority”?
Or you could use the old fascist refrain, which sadly some Conservatives use, If you have nothing to hide…
Such a terrible price was paid for our Liberties, how easily some surrender them.
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ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
Should be a convenience store
NOT a Government Agency
God Bless America except for the blue states.
Is that better? I understand that this is not the same as what the “real SS” would have done and was not trying to make that point, I was just abbreviating.
That being said, I would still feel very violated having the Secret Service walking through my house for having this sign in my car to make sure I did not belong to any “hate groups”.
This is still the United States of America (at least for now) and we should all be protected from tactics like these. There was no reason for this search and it should not have happened.
I am having a hard time believing you can’t read what I wrote, since you do seem to be able to type.
I said any threat “wrongly perceived or otherwise”.
The guy was clearly not a threat. The Secret Service clearly knew the guy was not a threat. But from everything I know about the SS, they have to investigate any reported “threat” whether it seems credible or not. That is why they “investigated” a bunch of kids singing Bob Dylan lyrics who someone took as a threat to Bush. That is why they “investigated” a 15 year old boy who doodled some stupid drawings of Bush during class.
You’re missing the point. The sign had already been determined to be innocuous before the Secret Service decided to visit his home. They should never have been at his door. Their very presence at his door was at a minimum unwarranted police harassment.
On February 19th, 2009 at 11:54 am, chapoutier said:
chapoutier I am having a hard time thinking you are really that stupid: WHAT THREAT?
I am having a hard time believing you can’t read what I wrote, since you do seem to be able to type.
I said any threat “wrongly perceived or otherwise”.
The guy was clearly not a threat. The Secret Service clearly knew the guy was not a threat. But from everything I know about the SS, they have to investigate any reported “threat” whether it seems credible or not. That is why they “investigated” a bunch of kids singing Bob Dylan lyrics who someone took as a threat to Bush. That is why they “investigated” a 15 year old boy who doodled some stupid drawings of Bush during class.
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Precisely: Their top-priority job is to protect our President, at any given time, whoever that may be. As a consequence, they have to “investigate” some seemingly harmless things.
They must’ve been seriously busy the last eight years.
On February 19th, 2009 at 12:00 pm, TXGator said:
they have to “investigate” some seemingly harmless things.
They must’ve been seriously busy the last eight years.
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I’ll grant you that there was plenty of anti-Bush stuff that was much more directly threatening than the sign in question here, as well as examples that Chap pointed out (singing Bob Dylan songs, a child’s drawings, etc.).
jd #67, forget being called a racist , that’s assured, worry about being sued for or charged with hate speech. when the ss arrived at his house and searched it, imagine if he had had a poster with a bullseye over it of the messiah. i’ve seen plenty of those pictures, including a movie promo, regarding bush. no ss investigation. do the obama gestapo get to take an obvious 1st amendment statement to authorize a home search? i understand a threat to the president, but a call to the police to see what the sign said should have sufficed to quell the fears of any ss agent. abort obama not babies, is hardly in the league of i want to kill the president. jack booted thugs indeed, if this had been reversed, you know the news coverage. don’t pretend it wouldn’t.
I am sure they have been.
In addition to the three examples I cited above, here is another one.
On February 19th, 2009 at 11:39 am, frostrt said:
Okay, everyone who is probably going to disagree with me, flame on:
what an ahole you are
Phil #86 – Agreed. I’m just saying that the rolling up of the sod hasn’t actually happened (yet). Actually, I’m kind of surprised that they didn’t “redecorate” in the opposite direction; make the school look dilapidated to try for a
bailouthandout.To Ignatius Reilly,
First, thank you for your service.
Second, Sorry about your poor service at this vital agency. This is why (since I can) avoid going to the VA. I have discussed this with my wife and she has instructions to make this hospital my last choice come emergency time.
But I believe many of the workers (but not all) at the VA are indicative of the fact no one holds them accountable to be efficient workers and not because of their ethnicity. Lazy people will always be lazy and its transcends racial boundaries.
Wow, a gay Utahan. Good for him. He must love beehives.
I’m with you on that one. Equal application of the law is what’s required. Maybe the law overreaches a tad?
On February 19th, 2009 at 12:09 pm, max said:
On February 19th, 2009 at 11:39 am, frostrt said:
Okay, everyone who is probably going to disagree with me, flame on:
what an ahole you are
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I was inviting debate, not name-calling.
Grow up or get gone.
anyone seeing this CNBC reporter going OFF on the floor of the stock exchange in Chicago? OH BOY.
The Secret Service is obligated to investigate potential threats to the president. Someone reported one to them, they investigated. As near as I can tell from years of news about SS investigations, they don’t try to filter out obvious BS. They just check it out. But there’s not a lot of transparency there, so maybe that’s not accurate.
The issue here is that a rabid Obama supporter (and is there any other kind?) who happened to be a cop did something very out of line when he saw criticism.
There’s serious potential for that to escalate over the next few years. Suing the cop, the department, and the city is called for in order to make it very clear that free speech is allowed for our side, too.
The problem with this story, and I can see both sides of it, is that it’s no big deal….until it is.
If this guy is the genuine article whacko, he takes a shot of Obama. If the Secret Service takes it a step further, we are closer to police state and further restrictions on free speech.
I’m with you guys, frost and chap, but can’t you see the other side of this?
Shot AT Obama…pardon me.
A shot OF Obama is what Kathleen Parker would like to sip while she relaxes at the end of another long, fawning article.
Obama’s premise is that abortion is a perfectly natural way to remove an unwanted fetus. How could this perfectly natural remedy to an insignificant problem possibly be threatening to our beloved Führer? Unless it’s all a lie, of course.
If the other side is the guy suing the Department to make a point and reprimands for the cop in question to send a message that this kind of stuff is not tolerated, then yes, I am on board with that.
I still do not believe the Secret Service did anything wrong, or at least anything that isn’t what their protocol has dictated since long before Obama.
“Innocent Person Vindicated after Secret Service Searches House – film at 11:00″
chap, i read your article, which clearly said the guy put a sign on his car which he made himself that said, king george, off with his head. you are smart enough to know that that is a threat. abort obama not babies is not because obama is alive 44 years old and can’t be aborted. you say you are a lawyer, as am i, so i know from law school that for a threat to be a threat, it must be credible. aborting obama isn’t possible in the context of killing him invivo, so no threat. besides, didn’t our illustrious attorney general say we need to talk about race and race issues more, but if you do, you may get harrassed by the police, investigated by the ss, and have your records searched by government workers. and you feel we have no reason to fear big brother?
Thank you, they are fascist, at least by tactic, and it does not matter who is President. Perceived Threat my ass. What is the violation of Law? Perceived Threat rather reminds me of feelings; if you FEEL someone is a threat trash them. Worked for the KKK, works now for the Bloods, Cripts, Aryan Nation why not the Secret Service and an Oklahoma City police officer.
Be real careful of good intentions. I imagine Reinhard Tristan Heydrich, “the Hangman” had good intentions. I doubt the Jews and Czechs were impressed.
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ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
Should be a convenience store
NOT a Government Agency
I never said he wasn’t inconveniened or that his rights weren’t violated. I said, in the end, he was found to be in the right and cleared of an absurd suspicion.
On February 19th, 2009 at 12:15 pm, frostrt said:
On February 19th, 2009 at 12:09 pm, max said:
On February 19th, 2009 at 11:39 am, frostrt said:
Okay, everyone who is probably going to disagree with me, flame on:
couln’t help myself, the way you twisted logic into such tight little circles to suit your Obamaworship actually sickened me …
paraphrasing…
“If the driver is a conservative then one can assume that he believes that abortion is murder, therefore, ergo…. bla bla bla,,,, it is “murder Obama”
oh yeah, I’m certain that these are the kinds of things going through Officer GetCracker’s head…
That is political parody. Not a credible threat. As is the idea of “aborting” a 44 year old man.
I agree, the Secret Service did nothing wrong. They are mandated to investigate. The man in question voluntarily let them in, but sometimes the presence of overwhelming authority takes away the option of denying entry.
The cop was overstepping, and I’m sure he’s being dealt with accordingly.
My proof, as others have already pointed out, is that the SS didn’t come gunning for the thousands of leftist psychos with pictures of a beheaded Bush or the million other violent images. Look, the cop is most to blame. I had a “Love my Country, Fear my Government” sticker on my car during the clinton years and I got pulled over a lot. I live in Chicago -A LOT. If I hadn’t been a police cadet I’d be in worse straights than this poor sucker. But the SS didn’t search the cops home. The SS didn’t search every leftist moonbat advocating the death of Bush. So yes, there is a policy shift. And if the Clinton years are any evidence the SS will be forced to do unconstitutional acts while being treated like filth. This seems a clear infringement on the 1st and 4th amendments. Even if the victim said yes, it sets a bad precedent for SS agents to search a mans house over a bumper sticker. Its intimidation by government.
can i make a cartoon of obama as a pig or is that insensitive to his muslim back ground.
How about this the left can take their pc bs and shove it where most of their heads are
I’m shocked someone on this board (including lgm and omu) would be that ignorant of civil liberties, freedom of speech, confiscation of personal property without warrant, and due process of law to even ask that question.
The dumbing down of America continues.
of course this explains how
The One 
ever got into office in the first place
Except for the fact I have linked to sevral cases where the SS was obligated to follow up on just as frivolous things under Bush…
And, I only think the cop will be getting what he deserves because this story is getting so much attention.
I’m not so naive to think it wouldn’t be glossed over if no one found out about it.
Just proof that George Bush was one of the best presidents the Democrats ever had.
Thank you for your reply, cabrerski.
I am a Southerner and have had extensive involvement with a lot of black folks through my life. There is a significant percentage of them who have left the ethos of victimhood behind. I have counted many among my good friends, admired colleagues, and respected bosses. I am touched when I notice black folks at the VA who seem to be bending over backwards to compensate for the others. It pains me to be so harsh in broad-brush comments, but, IMO, race is a key dynamic of the pathetic work ethic and lack of professionalism that pervades the VA administrative staff at least in my area where the overwhelming majority of these people are, in fact, black.
Roughly half of the black population of this country is virtually unemployable in the private sector where professional standards prevail. These are exactly the people who flock to these jobs where, as you say, accountability does not exist. It is certainly true that white people also underperform where expectations are low, although, as I say, the black community ~owns~ these federal jobs in the South and you see very few white people.
Black bureaucratic laziness has a particular quality that, IMO, has an obvious racial component. A sulky, passive-aggressive attitude is pervasive. Outright rudeness is also very common. My feeling is that I am being told that ~they~ run this place and I had better just get in line and do as I am told, while they socialize with their friends and ignore waiting veterans.
It is certainly no surprise to me that we have hostile black Americans. What most troubles me, though, is essentially your point…the government is utterly unwilling/incapable of creating a professional atmosphere where people are held accountable for doing their jobs.
But, IMO and in my experience with the VA here in the South, race greatly exasperates the problem of generally inept government. A lot of black culture is sick. Where low-achieving blacks are brought together in large numbers under inept and PC government management, the problems of black culture and inept government exacerbate each other. To me, it is important to talk about the failure of black culture, which is not to say that there are not lots of successful, high-achieving black folks. Nor is it to let inept government off the hook.
Having worked in OKC for the last 15 years (since retired), I live near Tulsa, the most conservative, capitalist city in the country. There are a few facts you should probably take in consideration with your assumptions:
1. OKC is a Government town. Almost all the primary wage earners slop at the public trough: Tinker AFB, FAA, Customs, Conair, OK State Gov, a bunch of universities. Only one or two major private companies. These people may be generally conservative, but it is democrat conservative. The entire city infrastructure has been robbed from the rest of the state lthrough legislation and taxes. That is their mindset.
2. Though they have a conservative democrat mindset, it is not marxist. They are America firsters.
3. I suspect the policeman was not an Obama nut. He was probably just an ex military type that wanted to suppress any threat to the Presidency (not the president). We have put up with these threats fromt he left for years. This is probably just a guy that was sick of it and did what he thought was prudent, though wrong.
4. One last thing – If you are looking for a conservative newspaper, look the Daily Oklahoman. You can get it on line or subscribe on Kindle. I know it is a good newspaper because liberals excoriate it.
…again, the cost to the tax payers because an African-american cop had a problem with a bumpersticker? I hope the victim tacks on another $5 Million.
Rush just played this on his program this a.m. Wow!! Don’t start the Revolution without me!! I love it!
Chap,
We agree on this one…
Ignatius,
You should read “Enough!” by Juan Williams. Although Mr. Williams tends to be liberal in many ways, he does use logical debate as opposed to emotional tirade to get his point across. In this book, he supports Bill Cosby and rails against the race-baiters that perpetuate the problems you described above. It is a great read.
On February 19th, 2009 at 12:32 pm, max said:
On February 19th, 2009 at 12:15 pm, frostrt said:
On February 19th, 2009 at 12:09 pm, max said:
On February 19th, 2009 at 11:39 am, frostrt said:
Okay, everyone who is probably going to disagree with me, flame on:
couln’t help myself, the way you twisted logic into such tight little circles to suit your Obamaworship actually sickened me …
paraphrasing…
“If the driver is a conservative then one can assume that he believes that abortion is murder, therefore, ergo…. bla bla bla,,,, it is “murder Obama”
oh yeah, I’m certain that these are the kinds of things going through Officer GetCracker’s head…
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I did not vote for Obama, much less do I “worship” him. And I do not favor the “crushing of dissent” against any of his policies.
My argument was that this is not a case of dissent being “crushed”.
Thanks. At times I have thought Juan was strictly a knee-jerk lib and black apologist. But he has steadily improved as the years have gone by. I don’t always agree with him, but I respect him enough to be interested in what he says.
Why are they trying to crush dissent?
They need to keep their own ignorant!
They cannot have someone pointing out it’s all an illusion!
They don’t want us to “change” any hearts or minds!
Seeing that I’m from the OKC area, a pretty Red state, free-speech being battered like that gave me a slight chill.
Probably getting that chill from all the durn Yankee furriners moving down here from yonder blue States toting their Obambi mania with them.
If you read the OKC newspaper link MM provided, check out the comments and see if you can tell the transplants from the Okies
LOL
PS, I think that cop was the exception, rather than the rule. That’s the curse of metro areas, such as OKC & Tulsa, where the diehard libtards flock to, since rural life is too harsh for them.
Check out the city of Enid’s take on the brouhaha.
On February 19th, 2009 at 11:39 am, frostrt said:
I did not vote for Obama, much less do I “worship” him.
oh sorry, Cynthia McKinney vwas it?
On February 19th, 2009 at 1:52 pm, max said:
On February 19th, 2009 at 11:39 am, frostrt said:
I did not vote for Obama, much less do I “worship” him.
oh sorry, Cynthia McKinney vwas it?
just kidding!
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I should certainly hope you were!
*extends white flag of truce to Max; agrees to disagree*.
I should certainly hope you were!
*extends white flag of truce to Max; agrees to disagree*.
*with an olive branch chaser!
On February 19th, 2009 at 2:14 pm, max said:
I should certainly hope you were!
*extends white flag of truce to Max; agrees to disagree*.
*with an olive branch chaser!
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Done!
And thus, peace, at least between Max and Frostrt, is achieved.
*Applause*
Is the Looney-Left still selling the “Abort Palin” shirts?
On February 19th, 2009 at 2:28 pm, ammo john said:
Is the Looney-Left still selling the “Abort Palin” shirts?
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I wouldn’t be a bit surprised, and therein would lie the hypocricy: An anti-abortion sign that says “abort Obama not the unborn” is taken as a potential threat against his life; an anti-Palin sign that says to abort her is perfectly kosher.
Since abortion is not considered murder or even physical assault in this country, I don’t see how suggesting abortion could be construed as a physical threat that warrants investigating.
The left’s wackiness and breathtaking hypocrisy continues on unabated in the following form: abortion is not murder, unless you are referring to Obama.
On February 19th, 2009 at 2:56 pm, MtsEdge said:
Since abortion is not considered murder or even physical assault in this country
The left’s wackiness and breathtaking hypocrisy continues on unabated in the following form: abortion is not murder, unless you are referring to Obama.
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Exactamundo. When used in reference to a liberal President with pro-abortion policies, all of a sudden the word “abort” DOES equal murder.
This is exactly why I would not put up a sign that said “abort so-and-so instead of the unborn”; since abortion, to my mind, is the taking of a human life, such a sign would be the same as calling to end the life of the person named.
Yes, there are far more clever and tasteful ways to expose BHO’s hypocrisy. For example, sending him a mirror.
On February 19th, 2009 at 3:27 pm, MtsEdge said:
Exactamundo. When used in reference to a liberal President with pro-abortion policies, all of a sudden the word “abort” DOES equal murder.
This is exactly why I would not put up a sign that said “abort so-and-so instead of the unborn”; since abortion, to my mind, is the taking of a human life, such a sign would be the same as calling to end the life of the person named.
Yes, there are far more clever and tasteful ways to expose BHO’s hypocrisy. For example, sending him a mirror.
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A little hand-mirror that he could carry with him anywhere and look into all the time; it would distract him so that people who knew what they were doing could start running things!
We can thank our founding fathers for the Constitution, and we can curse the modern day politician for destroying it.
Buttons and shirts - yes.
Is the SS investigating?
I’m a retired NYPD officer of 25 years service. This cop is an idiot and an embarrassment to police officers everywhere, and a testament to the social experiment being forced on police agencies around the nation by lowering standards of intelligence and common sense. This moron doesn’t know the definition of “Abort”? Give me a break. I would recommend Mr. harrison immediately files a complaint against this idiot and pursues it. Further – he never should have allowed the Secret Service in his house absent a warrant. That was a ridiculous and unconstitutional breach of his right to privacy. There was NO overt act that would warrant a “look around”.
Having been with the NYPD, our agency had the pleasure of working with Secret service hundreds of times between Presidential visits and the UN. These guys think they can do anything they want under the guise of “Presidential security.” It’s ridiculous. Like other federal agencies – they are out of control and beholding to no one. Unless you make a direct threat against the President or Vice President – what you read, what you think, what banners or flags you might have in your house is none of their damned business.
Key word there–”allowed.” After he spoke with an attorney. Nothing unconstitutional about it.
Stuff the legalese, counselor – I SAID he never should have ALLOWED. The mere fact they thought they had a right to ask to look around “to see if he belonged to any hate groups” tells the story here. You can spin your lawyerly talk anyway you want – this was an invasion of his privacy. You are no doubt familiar with the concept of “in plain view.” Neither this man or his lawyer have any idea what could have been seen and interpreted as contraband in his house that could have led to charges.
The FACT is – these agents, after the SS stated that the sign presented no overt threat to the President, decided on their own to poke around a citizens house on a fishing expedition. By what authority? Had it been Jeremiah Wrights house, or a member of CAIR’s house – you lawyers would be foaming at the mouth over it, “allowed” or otherwise.
You are the idiot spouting off that a voluntary search is unconstitutional. It may have been stupid or ill advised, but it was in no way shape or form unconstitutional.
God, you must have had a ton of evidence thrown out on you when you were a cop if this was the extent of your criminal procedure knowledge.
Here in Chicago an ally of a local Democratic Alderman has subpoenaed Google to unmask bloggers who have been critical of the Alderman. Today we found out that the ally of the Democratic Alderman has subpoenaed Google to give up the id of all of the commenters on the four blogs that have taken issue with the Alderman, Democrat Helen Shiller,
Chicago Alderman have a long history of withholding services to citizens who speak ouit against Aldermen. This is a real threat to the citizens of Chicago’s Uptown neighborhood.
Ah, more hypocrisy on the left. Someone complains about America tax dollars being wasted on some schmuck who submerges a portrait of Christ in a jar of urine and all we hear from the left are screams of censorship. Some conservatives come out against the Illinois bill that suggested late term abortion to include the six months AFTER the birth of a child and we hear screams of rage over the “trampling of human rights.” Some poor bastard has a little podunk sign with nothing but words on it and it requires an investigation, and yet liberals are defending the action?? Again, I never cease to be amazed by the rank hypocrisy of the left.
Worthy of your time.
In the interest of fairness, I think it should be noted that as communism became inexorably linked with totalitarianism, Roger Baldwin purged Communists from the ACLU organizational (though he still defended the rights of Americans to be COmmunists). Later Baldwin also became a Civil libertarian consultant for that noted Commie Douglas MacArthur while the latter was running Japan and also became a personal friend of MacArthur.