Arlen Specter jeered by taxpayers
It’s about time. KDKA reports Turncoat Caucus Sen. Arlen Specter was met with jeers at a Pa. press conference. Betrayal of core fiscal conservative principles has consequences.
U.S. Sen. Arlen Specter was greeted with jeers at a press conference in Cranberry Township.
Conservatives are fuming after Specter cast the deciding vote that led to the passage of President Barack Obama’s stimulus plan.
Specter, 79, acknowledges his run for re-election will be tough.
He says he’s not completely happy with Obama’s plans but he points out that he was able to cut the price tag by over $100 billion and he says he was able to increase the amount of tax cuts.
Even so, Specter acknowledges the Republican Party’s conservative wing will attempt to unseat him in next year’s primary race.
Maybe Sen. Specter can dial up the president, who can stroke his ego and call him a patriot again to make him feel better.
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good bye arlen…
“…he was able to increase the amount of tax cuts.”
So not only did he turn his back on what the voices of this country’s conservative voters, he thinks we’re stupid enough to not remember the facts?
Oh, okay, I feel better now! Dillweed!
It’s almost impossible to dethrone an incumbent. We need to repeal the 17th Amendment, and give the legislatures recall power.
“The ‘free expression’ continued as the Senator attempted to leave…”
People are angrier at Arlen than I can ever remember. The question is who will run against him. Lynn Swann maybe?
Liberal Republicans have always been the bane of the GOP. Maybe this last dumb vote by Arlen will send him home for good.
LOL! What the libtards aren’t understanding is that, with companies laying people off and going out of business based on high taxes, there are a lot of hard working conservatives with plenty of time on their hands now, and they have time to *SHOW UP* to protest and assemble and shout our message to the sky. See libtards, your plan to humble our economy has only made the conservatives MIGHTY!!
Oooooh… I can’t WAIT till Snowball and Collins get back up to Maine. They’re going to face worse than Specter did.
“But, but, but I only helped kill America a little bit…”
It is amazing to me that these 3 senators almost act surprised or caught off guard by the amount of and intensity of the anger towards them. How can that be? I mean really? How can they not get it to the degree that they are anticipating this kind of reaction?
Agreed. The intent of the founding fathers was for the Senators to represent the states. Repealing the 17th Amendment would put more power in the hands of the state legislatures.
James Madison et al clearly understood that a democracy eventually turns into anarchy. I believe we are headed in that direction.
Benedict Arlen? Bravo!
Bye bye Ben, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Add to that the flood of phone calls they got from voters across the nation.
“Just play stupid…we might get away with it”.
I have no confidence in PA voters, since they returned him the last time, and Murtha’s still a congressman. When they throw both the bums the door, I’ll regain my confidence!
“The intent of the founding fathers was for the Senators to represent the states.”
I’m sorry but I disagree. What you refer to as the role of Senators, that is the role of the House of Representatives. Senators were suppose to be statesmen, leaders, not be so influenced by a particular opinion of a particular group of voters that they swayed the country impulsively this way or that. Not that senators were to be or are to be unresponsive to their voters. But that senators are to have a bigger picture view and not just drive for things that are good for their state, instead they are to be concerned with what is good for the country.
Representatives are the direct connection to the voters of their states dudes and dudettes.
You have it exactly backwards.
The House of Representatives represents the people. The Senate represents the states.
I hope the greeters were wearing a mask and snorkel. P.U.
I would like Lynn Swann to run for Governor again. He’ll win this time. But Rick Santorum should run for the senate again. We need good conservatives governing and taking over Washington.
I think Specter is too old, at 79, to effectively campaign, so he will lose. What the Democrats have done is to weaken his candidacy, and they hope to put a true Liberal in place of him in 2010. They have no love for Arlen, they only needed another vote. They will treat him just like they did McCain, and run from him after lauding him as bold and courageous for defecting from his party’s clear position.
He’s just too old to realize how deftly they rolled him and his two scaredy-cat Maine senators.
About time, indeed.
Specter doesn’t subscribe to core conservative principles of any kind. Never has, never will.
This moron should have been shown the door years ago. Just another Republican scum that shows how useless that party is.
There is hope, however. Steve Lonegan is running for governor of New Jersey as a Republican. Let’s see what he can do.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Oh, and BTW, either Lynn Swann or Rick Santorum would be good opponents for the Specter seat in 2010.
“You have it exactly backwards.”
Sorry single stack, not so.
The Republican Party doesn’thave a “conservative wing”. It has a small band of rogue conservatives who have no power within the party at all. Specter’s seat is quite safe until a conservative party gains enough strength to oust him.
The Donks sure as hell ain’t gonna do it.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
js,
The role of the Senate was to represent state governments. The idea was that if the fedgov was trying to usurp the proper powers belonging to the states, then the Senators—who answered to the state legislative bodies—were there to protect the states’ interests. It was supposed to be yet another one of the checks and balances.
I said a couple of weeks ago that Specter would not run again. I was told then I was wrong. I think he is smart enough to not go down in flames. He will take a read of the situation, what he did to himself, the intensity of and the size of the opposition towards him and he will retire.
He has painted himself into a corner that will have the result of ending his career as a senator.
Please tell me you’re joking.
Senators were meant to represent the State’s issues, and the House was to represent the people of their state.
The arrangement made perfect sense when you realize that the Constitution originally did not allow for direct taxation of the citizens by the Federal Government. Taxing the people was the domain of the individual states. (Which also provided more competition among the states in attracting people and business.)
When spending bills, passed in the House, went to the Senate. It was the job of the Senate to put the brakes on because…. the cost of the bill would be passed on to their state to pay. Thus, the House worked to pass bills, and the Senate stopped any that would overly-burden their state.
…an elegant and balanced solution that I personally would like to see re-instituted.
Specter is gone. He will be beaten in the primaries. If you remember he nearly was defeated in his last primary and if Bush had not stepped in and backed him he would have been.
I agree with forest that Lynn Swann would make a great Conservative candidate you could not only dethrone Specter, but could also win in the general election.
He’s 79 years old. He cruised to office on Reagan’s coattails and like any good RINO he’s been flying under the radar ever since. He needs to go.
Remember when conservatives wanted to run a true conservative against him in the last primary and “pragmatic” Republicans warned them off saying Specter was the best candidate to defeat the Democrats in the general election? How did that strategy work out? In the most important vote of his life he might as well have been a liberal Democrat.
I stand by my assessment of the role of senators and representatives. Senators while being from states carry the responsibility of the “bigger picture”. What is good for the nation as well as what is good for their states. Representatives are not the “bigger picture” folks but the direct tie to their states folks.
That is why there are many more representatives than senators.
If some of you don’t like that, I don’t really care. This is not the place to hash that out now is it?
This article prompted two thoughts/memories.
I could have sworn that around the time of the last election, Specter said this would be his last term in office. If that’s so, then why the heck is he talking about reelection?
Second, in the last primary run for his Senate seat, Specter almost had his butt handed to him by Pat Toomey, in spite of the support of the GOP, President Bush, and the coerced support from Rick Santorum. And he’s surprised that conservatives are angry at him for doing exactly what gave Pat Toomey such a chance?!? Yea, right. Tell us another whopper Specter!
jsmiddleton4 (#15), yes, kinda. Since Senators were appointed by the state governments, they would be answering to the state governments, not the people directly. Ideally they would be statesmen who could take the longer view because they were not beholden to the masses. As you said, the House of Representatives were to be directly responsive to the people.
It was a way to balance competing political influences. (And an ignored part of the Connecticut Compromise that produced the even representation in the Senate and the by-population representation in the House.)
So what you are saying is that the role of the Senate is to micro-manage the Executive branch responsibilities? That’s too many presidents for me. Got one more than we need right now.
How do you like the way Specter looks around at his cronies and half laughs when he say’s he “always glad to hear a desenting voice”.
This guy is so full of himself it is sickening!
I find it grotesque the number of politicians who have jumped on board the socialism bandwagon. Constitution be damned.
Arlen Spectacle should have been voted out last election after he supported amnesty and called for the “biggots to shut up”. I hope the PA voters do the right thing this time, but I won’t hold my breath. If this is what passes as a republican these days, then the monicker of “conservative party” is most inappropriate.
Jeers are not consequences. The consequences need to come from the RNC and voters.
So we’re going to talk about this some more?
Ok. You see a parallel of these roles in state governments. State senators are suppose to focus on what is good for the entire state. State representatives represent a district and while they don’t want to trash some other part of the state, they are responsible to represent the folks of a particular district. If a state senator performs well for most of the part of the state they are responsible for they will most likely be re-elected. If a state representative does poorly for his or her district but does really well for another district, that state representative is not going to generally be re-elected.
Federal senators are the bigger picture folks, yes tied to their states but not in the same way as representatives. Representatives narrow picture, direct connection to the people they represent.
The “brakes” someone referred to regarding Senators is part of that structure. Just because something is good for a particular state does not mean its good for the country. So the representatives all wild and woolly like vote for something that looks from their perspective, the senate with the bigger view says, “Whoa nellie, we ain’t gonna do that!”
Of course this did not happen with the stimulus package. In part why its a bad piece of legislation is due to that “brake” not being applied.
This is why you would expect representatives from the Detroit area to be totally for the bail out for the auto industry. BUT why we would expect a majority of Senators to be against it.
Representatives ask the question “What is good for my voters?”. Senators while not ignoring their voters should also be asking “What is good for the country?”.
Its that question that is not being asked.
We’ve lost the “bigger picture” role of the Senate. Or “the someone has to be an adult at some point in this process” role of the Senate.
Its like its all one body now. Congress is ALL acting like the House of Representatives.
I truly do not know what is funnier, the fact that Specter is shocked by the outrage or that the PA voters who re-elected him are shocked that he voted for the Porkulus bill.
It was disastrous.
The Republican Senate Campaign Committee chose to spend millions of RSCC dollars to support Specter and later Lincoln Chaffee in Primary elections.
Then, the GOP lost the Senate because of very close races in Montana, Missouri, and Virginia… where those millions might have made a difference.
People forget that he has a long history of fiscal stupidity. When he was DA in Philly, he gave $10k to a local chapter of Nation of Islam for security. That particular chapter went on to commit extortion, intimidation, and numerous murders.
Arl never got it and he never will.
Unfortunately true. Oddly enough, have you noticed that the House has tended to be more conservative than the Senate over the years?
At least in PA, the majority of Representatives are solidly conservative, or at least it used to be.
Specter = Chamberlain . . . get this bum out of the Republican Party.
I’d love to hear the reasons as to why he thinks he deserves to run again.
You are both right and wrong, and not necessarily mutually exclusive. The house of representatives was to be the assembly of the people and the members representing the interests of the several populations of the country. The Senate was to equalize the interests of the states. It was not designed to be wise and deliberative group referred to above. It was designed to look out for the rights of Rhode Island versus New York or Virginia, with larger populations. It was also felt, that because the senators were to be appointed by the state legislators, they would not have the personal pressures of representing individual interests within the state.
I went to school in western PA (when the best engineers were educated in PA), but live in OK. I guess that could be the best of both worlds. However, even in those days, the PA people had extreme, diverse, and (to me, stupid) opinions. Go get that bum of a senator for whatever reason that drives you, but at least go get him!
what? you mean I was only gonna get $6 a week and Specter ensured I’d get $8? The truth is the final bill, while lower in short-term price, actually ended up including MORE spending.
If I may just add:
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
There! I feel much better…
Specter has always been a piece of crap. Finally that fact seems to be seeping into the consciousness of the mainstream Republican Party.
This must be Senatorial talking points because Herb Kohl (D-WI) said almost exactly the same thing.
The politicians in DC are completely detatched from reality and the American people, that’s how. Especially morons like Sphincter.
Pa. and Maine went democratic back in November. Perhaps, they’re trying to cover themselves somehow. Don’t think it will work. All they are doing is making the base they have left, mad at them. No friends on either side.
this jerk gloats that he saved the taxpayers 100 billion dollars. if he weren’t a shmuck, he would have saved us 787 billion dollars. please succumb to that cancer soon, so you can’t destroy any one else’s nest egg. since nov 4, the dow has dropped over 2000 points, and is now at the level of the worst days of george bush. it’s now your mess obambi.
Don’t get too excited. These are Pennsylvania voters we’re talking about here. Ya know…the same types that again voted for Murtha after he insulted them…twice.
Specter and Bloomberg are cut from the same cloth. You can name them or call them anything just so you elect them. They have no real values, no traditional morals and no courage . . . just blatant narcissism and contempt for the constitution.
You mean we won’t get the chance to see him govern as Kennedy and Byrd????
What a shame that his incoherent mumblings won’t continue long past his prime…wait a minute ….he already is incoherent and mumbling….with a dash of traiterous behavior and stupidity to boot!
You mean we won’t get the chance to see him govern as Kennedy and Byrd????
What a shame that his incoherent mumblings won’t continue long past his prime…wait a minute ….he already is incoherent and mumbling….with a dash of traiterous behavior and stupidity to boot!
The only reason I have hope is that it does not only include the voters in Western PA.
He claimed to have trimmed Porkulis 100 billion. If he had not betrayed the country he could have trimmed it 785 BILLION. Arlen is also a dummy!
I think Senators are still supposed to represent the State. The trouble is when they stopped being appointed by Governors and Legislators and started being picked by voters the States no longer really had any voice. This is one way the Liberals have gained control. A six pack, or a carton of cigs (hypothetical and real) buys votes from an uninformed or government schooled individual that puts his x in the box the community organizers want.
I see Arlen as an absolute traitor and always have.
I like Pat Toomey!He has been a upright Republican.He would have won,except for Pres.Bush,backing Specter.This is one example where people must THINK,and not follow the party line.
I pray Darling Sphincter is right.
Benedict Arlen…that is friggin’ priceless.
Run the guy who lost to Jackstrap Murtha–the WAR HERO Bill Russell. I’d move to Pennsylvania and set up official residence ahead of the election to vote for this guy over Anal Speculum.
At the giant risk of being labeled an Age-ist, at 79, shouldn’t he be doddering around patting the great grand kids on the head and worrying about his bowel movements? Rather than screwing the country? And thinking about re-election? Just askin’.
Cosmo:
Do you even have to set up legal residence? Hasn’t ACORN gotten those laws changed yet?
Get this mutt out of the senate. Begone with you you contemptable sell out.
Specter plays ‘monkey see, monkey do’ almost always when it comes to liberal legislation.
Hey Arlen – if you had a set of huevos you’d have been able to cut it by 8 times that much
You figured that out all by yourself? I suppose even a blind dog will find a bone on occasion.
He’s actually running ads in PA now asking people to call and thank him for voting for the stimulus package if you can believe it!
What Specter and other RINOs never seem to get is that the Dems will only pat you on the back when you vote their way. When you try to resume being a Repub, the Dems turn on you; you end up with everyone hating you because the true conservatives feel betrayed.
If anyone knows what Obama’s butt tastes like, it is Specter.
I wonder if “Mr. law and order, we got to do something” Arlen Spector knows he just granted power to Obama to interfere with internal federal investigations?
Better read about this RAT before it is washed away from the internet- lest someone find out!
Spector is just getting what he deserves. His vote sold out the prosperity of future generations, but what does he care since he won’t live to see the impact of his stupid vote.
I think it’s great when conservatives get vocal – the liberals are confounded when that happens! I want to know why the DNC throws support behind a RINO candidate–what good does that do? Even if that person gets elected, they will vote with the Demoncrats. How is that a win for Republicans?
Careful Sarge the PC police will say that is racist since you said it about a liberal.
Those that think conservatives need to reform themselves need look no further than Spector to see the final product!
It’s a
newold principle called: say one thing; do another, and than claim it was a “tough call” that someone had to make!Campaign against Spector should be called-
I gave my word-that I would not vote for you Arlen!
Michael Steele had better understand this, and understand it really good if he ever expects to see his funding come back:
At a *minimum* he has to put the RNC behind unseating all 3 Senator Turncoats.
He’d do even better if he did the same thing with any Senator supported any of BUSH’S pork, too.
If he wants the trifecta, make it a point to oppose anyone who voted for Illegal Alien Amnesty.
Steele could lead a great comeback, but only if he steers by a truly conservative star.
he may be senile but the voters sure aren’t!! time to retire senator for the benefit of our children and their children who you’ve now saddled with a debt they may never pay off!!!
Arlen’s a liberal? I didn’t know.
*It’s all on Steele now; There is no excuse for him not to be upfront with Specter in asking him to retire at the end of his term, or every effort will be made to primary him out; If Steele gives him a pass, then it will be the beginning of the end for the RNC; Specter has done enough damage to Pennsylvania, the rest of the country, and even the New England Patriots; Punt him out.
It is long overdue!!!!
You want to bet that the GOP and NRCC will fund Specter’s reelection.They are as bad as he is.
It must be therapudic for Specter to acknowledge that he is not conservative. Now, if he could just recognize that it is long past time for his retirement…
Like his new best friend says, “it is time for the old, failed, worn out policies of the past to be pushed aside.” When you’re older than the box, it must be awful difficult to think outside of it.
I imagine that the President will come bail him out in the primary again, like happened last time. (If you want details on that bit of history, drop Pat Toomey an email and ask him about it.)
#48 RussN
Yes, I too got the same response from Sen. Kohl. Oh, if only someone could run against that Old Bag Of Money. He is almost entirely useless and a waste of space in the senate.
Sorry for you in Pa. and sorry for the American people that Specter doesn’t have a pair.
What about Arlen Specter did the ‘fine’ republicans in Pennsylvania think was actually conservative? Why have they repeatedly elected him? Are you all just “barely” republicans? Have you finally figured anything the ‘freak’ out??!!!
It’s the so-called republicans in Pennsylvania and other states that have repeatedly elected this scum that has us in the shape we’re in. Democrats are corrupt liars but at least the democrats aren’t trying to kill their own.
I have no respect for idiots that continue electing this kind of garbage and then whine about how he governs. I’ll bet you $1000 (in carbon credits) they re-elect this moron again in 10.
We true conservatives have been way too lenient on our so-called co-patriots that elect the worst case scenario. It’s time you got called-out. I’m sure there are true conservatives that tried to change your mind about nominating Specter, but you wouldn’t listen. Thanks.
You people in South Carolina aren’t much better with that lap-dog Lindsay Graham.
The middle of the road moderate conservatives have handed our country over to our enemy. You pro-choice republicans are about to see what no-choice means. It’s time to wake up and realize there is no compromising with the left. We’ve tried it and look where we are.
Thank you dadinseattle, this is a scary one! Another sign of the times where BHO is slowly but surely consolidating his power. The RAT Board gives the power to Congress on who gets audited or investigated or NOT by the Inspector General and it was snuck in the Stimulus Bill like a RAT hours before Congress started voting on it. Sen. Grassly wanted to know who’s responsible for the sleigh of hand trick but nobody wants to claim ownership to it and WH staffers said they’ll look into it.
The Republican Party used to BE conservative. Now it’s liberal with a “conservative wing”. Feh.
Marginalize us to the fringe, will you?? After 25 years as a Republican (the first 22 of those pretty proud), I registered Libertarian last week.
Take that, GOP.
Ya think???
The solution here is easy — A call to the Messiah could have Specter for Commerce Sec in a blink. The Pen Dem Gubernator will have to find another turncoat RINO to fill Specter’s shoes — there’s probably several who have been handholding Specter around the Senate who could fill the slot.
Surprised Obama hasn’t given Spector a Cabinet job or a post as Ambassador to Liechtenstein.
4USA,
Please be careful with that brush. It’s way too broad.
You may not be aware of it, but Specter barely won the primary. That was in spite of having the GOP, President Bush and Rick Santorum (an actual conservative) on his side. (Note: Santorum only supported Specter because he was pressured into it.)
That means that there are a heck of a lot of us Republicans here in PA who recognized
Spectre’sSpecter’s koolaide for what it was. Yes, there are a lot of Republicans who blindly vote the way the party tells them to. But remember that Republicans are by nature also thinkers who are willing to disregard the party’s wishes when we deem them to be harmful.There are a couple of factors you need to keep in mind.
First,
SpectreSpecter was in line for the chairmanship of the Judiciary Committee, meaning that he would be (and is) in charge of the initial Senate reviews of judicial nominations. For some Republicans, the thought of having a Republican in that seat—even a RINO likeSpectreSpecter—was just too tempting to ignore. A lot of us, though, realized that with friends like Spectre, who needs enemas? (No, that’s not a typo.)Another argument that some Republicans found convincing was that Spectre was “electable”. “Hey, a true conservative can’t win in PA, but at least Spectre can win!” Of course, this aim for the mud idea ignored the fact that Pennsylvania’s junior senator at the time was one of the most conservative members of the Senate, Rick Santorum.
Finally, there was the crossover vote; Democrats changing their registration to Republican just so they could support Spectre. There wasn’t a ton of this, but it did happen.
I’m convinced that if the GOP had simply stayed out of things, Pat Toomey would have beaten Spectre handily, and stood a very good chance of beating the Democrat, who was mostly an unknown. But no! Their rush to the “middle”, just like with McCain, left us screwed no matter how we voted in the general election.
Don’t know if anyone is still reading this thread… but here goes!
Specter the Defector gets elected because his “base” is Philly and the surrounding suburbs. 20 years ago, you couldn’t get elected Dog Catcher in the suburbs unless you were endorsed by the Republican party. That has changed since people have been fleeing the city for decades. He gets democrat votes in this area and the numbers overwhelm the rest of the state. Add that to the parts of PA that will still vote straight party and he gets re-elected.
Don’t count on Swan or Santorum whatever you think their credentials to be. Swan does not show the polish or toughness that he needs to win this seat. I thought that the adoration of Steelers fans would carry him to victory over Rendell, but it was a blowout the other way. Santorum doesn’t have a snowball’s chance. Democrats DETEST him for his conservative credentials and go into a mouth-frothing derangement syndrome at the mention of his name. His socking it to PA taxpayers to pay for sending his kids to fancy private schools in Virginia did not sit well with Republicans either. He had a more or less fake address in a school district that had a tight budget and a Democrat party leader on its board. That hurt him badly.
I’m afraid that this seat is going to Rep. Sestak. He is measuring the drapes in the senatorial office. He is a died-in-the-wool liberal that will get every democrat vote and he is a retired Admiral, which will trick enough Republicans to carry him in.
Specter won’t go away. He’ll have to be beaten, and beaten he will be, probably in the primary but certainly in the general election. The problem is that this is a real case of “be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.”
4USA,
That’s the heart of it, isn’t it? But I posit that this is where the battle lines must be drawn:
If Republicans can only win by rejecting conservatism, then they shouldn’t want the win. RINO is the worst kind of beast – it’s basically an admission that “this is just a power grab, not an actual political party.”
If Pennsylvanians want liberalism, make them see it for what it is – and reap as they sow.
Heckman; Thanks for the perspective. I noted the true conservatives and salute you.
Rob; It’s our only hope.
Here’s my wish-list:
1)Term-limits immediately and retroactively. If you’ve served x number of years already, this is your last stand.
2)No one who has served in office, their staff, nor any of their immediate family, may be a licensed lobbyist for 10 years after leaving office.
3)Lawyers are not to serve in any government body in greater proportion than the constituency they represent.
4)No one may serve in office that has not been employed in the private sector for at least 5 years.
5)I’d love to exclude Ivy league schools from being the breeding ground for our Presidents. It’s ridiculous to think how much respect and power is blindly given to them. That’s part of the impetus for the elitism we see today.
We need to be ruled by a cross-section of this country where everyone is represented and no one is excluded because of perceptions and stereotypes. Nancy Pelosi is not an intelligent person and is completely disconnected. Her only bonafides come from the fact she enunciates well and she’s from San Francisco. Case closed.
I liked when Laura Ingraham told him it must be nice to be wined and dined at the White House.He also was invited to the Super Bowl party.He got very angry and said don’t give me that young lady.He and the Maine twins were buttered up and bribed it’s obvious,but as we have learned with McCain who used to always do that turn coat stuff on us the Dems have a short memory and see them as nothing but a useful idiot.
Spector,Collins, and Snow can all get a room together.
I thought the role of the Senate was to Advise and Consent.
Specter has advised and then he consented. Just because he got it wrong………
Just like Obama said. Arlen won the election so… (my part added- gird your loins) Thanks PA.