“This is our house now:” ACORN mob begins breaking into homes
On Wednesday, I said prepare for lawlessness as ACORN’s civil disobedience mob steps up pressure for President Obama’s mortgage entitlement expansion.
Well, are you ready, Baltimore? (Hat tip – Jeff Quinton) ACORN’s troops are breaking the padlocks and breaking into homes. And this is just the start. Caution: OBAMACORN at work.
A community organization breaks into a foreclosed home in what they are calling an act of civil disobedience.
The group wants to train homeowners facing eviction on peaceful ways they can remain in their homes.
Derek Valcourt reports their actions are not without controversy.
Near Patterson Park, the padlock on the door and the sign in the window tells part of Donna Hanks foreclosure story.
“The mortgage went up $300 in one month,” said Hanks, former homeowner.
She says the bank refused to modify her loan and foreclosed, kicking her out of the house in September.
The community group ACORN calls Hanks a victim of predatory lending.
“This is our house now,” said Louis Beverly, ACORN.
And on Thursday afternoon, they literally broke the foreclosure padlock right off the front door and then broke into the house, letting Hanks back in for the first time in months.
Taxpayer-subsidized anarchy is on the way.
Mr. President? Mr. President?
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On February 20th, 2009 at 11:26 am, Truesoldier said:
Iran also recently launched a satellite into orbit.
A nuclear bomb, detonated in orbit above the US, would create an EMP that would fry most electronics in line-of-sight of the blast.
Nothing to see here folks – just Democratic thievery and thuggery at the grass roots level.
But Ms. Hanks FEELS like a VICTIM and that is all that counts!
How in the world do you get a $1600 a month mortgage payment on an $87000 home? Freemortgagecalculator.com indicates that you would need an interest rate of 22% on the full $87000 amount to get a $1600 monthly payment. There is no way this passes the smell test unless Ms. Hanks got her mortgage from Guido…
Who checks these claims? Oh, right, Keith Olbermann and his crack team of fact checkers must be on this…
Speaking of Iran, do you know who was US National Security Advisor during the transition of Iran to an anti-Western Islamic state?
Obama advisor (and puppeteer) Zbigniew Brzezinski.
Brzezinski also helped further other Communist goals:
Normalization of relations with the People’s Republic of China (and the severing of ties with the Republic of China/Taiwan),
Signing of the second Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty (SALT II),
brokering of the Camp David Accords,
arming of the mujaheddin in Afghanistan,
and
signing of the Torrijos-Carter Treaties relinquishing U.S. control of the Panama Canal
Brzezinski co-founded the Trilateral Commission with David Rockefeller, serving as director from 1973 to 1976.
Brzezinski selected Georgia governor Jimmy Carter as a member.
Jimmy Carter was groomed by Brzezinski.
So was Barack Obama.
The real President right now is not Barack Obama. It is Zbigniew Brzezinski. Vladimir Putin is not far behind.
Does anyone else feel the very fabric of America being ripped apart by obama and his
admin,socialists, team of psychos?Exactly.
As I’ve said, a good rallying cry for us might be, “We Just Want Our Country Back!”
I guess every time someone makes a dumb financial decision he or she is a victim. Funny how some of us are victims more often than others.
And shortly thereafter, Iran would cease to exist.
This is my house now? Don’t they have a police department in Baltimore?
happyscrapper
not to worry, I may be 58, but I just purchased a Sigsauer P339 .40 caliber automatic to add to my personal carry and conceal arsenal….. Guys like me will protect you.
On February 20th, 2009 at 11:55 am,
God bless “guys like you”!!
MNUSMCDavid said: (#10)
Agreed. Quite illegal. And I am hoping to see law enforcement charging in. Well, maybe not in the People’s Republic of Maryland, but one can hope.
It’s not just “concealed carry” states. Any state with an explicit Castle Doctrine could have that possibility if the ACORN thugs are stupid enough to break into the wrong house.
re: Castle Doctrine…. good point. Incidentally, here in the Socialist state of Mn they are discussing that very thing.
On February 20th, 2009 at 11:37 am, WarEagle82 said:
Michelle Malkin said:
Unlikely. They’d need plutonium. They undoubtedly have enough U-235 to make an atomic (Hiroshima type) bomb, since we’ve been watching them refine it for years and pretending that it was just for a power plant. Thank you, GW Chimp.
In zimbarbwea they said “this farm is now mine”.
Same thing, different continent.
That’s what the Branch Davidians thought. Then they brought in the tanks.
There are ways of dealing with them as well. Takes a little more prep work but it can be done.
STOP THE INSANITY ALREADY!
Thank you
*leaves room*
On February 20th, 2009 at 11:54 am, happyscrapper said:
Probably, but…
Good question. Are property records for Baltimore accessible to the public?
txvet… are you comparing me to a Branch Davidian? There couldn’t be more of a diverse comparison if so. God forbid it would have to come to that. My point to happyscrapper was that, if ACORN or any other type organization “hired” by Obama wishes to change our way of life , it wouldn’t be that easy. Those Branch Davidians were total incompetents, incidentally. and the ATF guys weren’t too on top of things , either, if memory serves me well.
Oh, finally, if it be tanks…… we should give up? No!
I hope someone can answer this….I understand that a lot of the problem with these mortgages came because the interest rate readjusted causing the monthly payments to rise. Sometimes so much that people couldn’t afford them anymore and defaulted. I know the gas prices also contributed to the problem.
Now, my question….
What caused the interest rates on these mortgages to rise so dramatically?
Acorn: Obama’s trained thugs. Doesn’t surprise me a bit.
You and I both know ways to destroy tanks in urban or restricted enviroments. And even in open enviroments given the right equipment.
Ignorant people not reading thier contracts.
Did they really expect the loans to be adjusted DOWN???
DEE DEE DEE
I would love to see a raid on ACORN and similar groups, where SWAT teams rush in an arrest the thugs. I have zero sympathy for the former homeowner who signed a document agreeing to those terms.
If I was the bank I would be tempted to have the people arrested then bulldoze the house in front of them.
txvet2 (#116) sadi:
Then it would be a Pyrrhic Victory–they would destroy that which they were trying to take. Unless their sole goal were to “eliminate” non-communists.
Why would any bank ever write another mortgage if it became common place for people not paying on their loans to refuse to vacate.
Normally, you’d think the sheriff might give an asist, but ACORN is the street soldiers of the Obamafied Demonratic Party, and moving against them might be politically risky.
I still think Stalin is a better analogy for Obama, but ACORN does seem to fill the role of the SA.
Animals.
On February 20th, 2009 at 12:17 pm, sonofdy said:
But, what I mean is….did something or someone happen that caused all of these to rise? All of this financial fiasco can be directly attributed to the housing collapse. What caused the ARM to readjust so high?
Also, a lot of people thought that their equity would skyrocket and that they could renegotiate or sell for a profit after only a couple of years in their house.
I smell a rat. I can’t help but think this was no accident or consequence of normal market and interest rate activity.
Adjustable rate mortgages are a wonderful thing, as long as one is smart enough to refinance to a stable rate mortgage before the ARM balloons.
ARMs exist so people who can’t afford a house can buy one anyway, or so savvy borrowers can save some on the initial interest and refinance before the rate adjusts. Or, if one assumes home values must increase, sell before the ARM hits and make a profit. That assumption turned out to be a rather bad one.
But nobody takes out an ARM not knowing that after a certain period the rates will rise.
Interest rates have been pretty tame. 7% on our house in 2000, re-fi’d to 5 1/2% about 3 years later. Hardly an excuse to even get an ARM, as standard mortgages are remarkably cheap.
I’m not comparing you to anything, except that you went out and bought a new handgun and vowed to protect everybody with it. I just pointed out that the Davidians thought they were pretty well protected too. If you manage to take out the tanks, the next step will be gunships or something else. When you talk revolution, you talk real war, and that involves our rifles and pistols against their army. Not trying to disparage you in any way. It’s just that streak of realist in me that says most of the people who try this are going to end up dead.
On February 20th, 2009 at 12:19 pm, Kevin K. said:
Goal to “eliminate” non-communists:
Our army actualy.
On February 20th, 2009 at 12:25 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:
ARMs have been around for a long time and for the most part, have worked in the manner they were intended.
What caused the ARMs to readjust so much that hundreds of thousands of people could no longer afford their mortgages?
Our economy is very heavily subsidized by debt. It is paramount to a secure financial system that debts be paid according to the contract under which they were incurred. Obviously if the banks are not being paid, they cannot lend more or pay the interest they owe.
Something or someone caused this, and I believe they did it deliberately.
And who would be driving those tanks? I think we know whose side the current drivers of those tanks would be on if the country continues to deteriorate like it’s going. Maybe Dear Leader will have to recruit tank drivers from Acorn. But then, they’d be too busy pimping them out with spinner hubs and stereo speakers to actually drive them.
As with all revolutions, a few will rebel, a few will support the government, and most will just go along to get along. The army is no different, except they’ve been trained to obey orders. Of course most GIs are conservatives. That doesn’t mean that you’re going to end up owning the military.
txvet
I understand perfectly your point. I, too, am a realist. Being a wounded vet myself, I know the reality of confrontation and result. I’m hoping we never come to another Civil war but if it comes, I want people to know I won’t hide…. I can’t. but, your point is well taken.
I have a business proposition for people. These people are committing a crime and the police will not do anything. What if we start a company that will remove them for a company that has foreclosed on the property but unable to get them out. People like myself and MNUSMCDavid and others would provide a service which would remmove these low lifes for a fee. We could go in and have them out in less than 12 hours i bet.
So…when these criminal a-holes squat in a house, will these “homeowners” pay their property taxes, like everyone else???
The question answers itself.
When they stiff their city or town, will it respond with liens, garnishments or foreclosures?
Nahhhh…they’ll just arm themselves for a standoff, burn the place down, etc.
Happens all the time in Philly.
It’ll be happening in a neighborhood near you.
Ummmm…I don’t think David vowed to protect everyone…I believe his words were “guys like me will protect you”. He was misquoted and that is a serious offense.
Interesting how both arms and ARMs are being discussed.
arms (rifles and pistols) and ARMs (Adjustable Rate Mortgages).
I’ve been suspicious for many months that the fuel “crisis” and the financial/real estate meltdown/”crisis” were way, way too coincidental so soon before a national election.
Agreed that the coincidences do not pass the smell test.
I’m good with that. Better in the ground than to see this nation become another “workers paradise”.
As did my ancestors who fought in the American Revolution. They did not die in vain. God takes care of His own.
That has been my suspicion all along.
Too many coincidences.
Anyone know what george Soros, Peter Lewis and their minions were really up to the past year or so?
GaMidnightRider
Hmmmm, sounds like a great entrepreneurial plan….. oh wait….. the liberals don’t want success.. they want “average’…. we’ll have to guerrilla the whole thing to get them out.
It’s only anarchy if the government doesn’t go along with or encourage it. In this case, its not anarchy. It’s redistribution, a concept obviously in favor in the White House and Congress. Of course, any sane person would call it theft.
ACORN is an unofficial wing, the shock troops, of the Democrat party.
Local sheriffs may be nervous taking them on, in some jurisdictions the local law enforcement is loyal to the same Demonratic Party that ACORN is loyal to, and even if the local police are committed to upholding the law, they risk the wrath of the Obama Regime if they confront his allies.
Who was driving the tanks at Waco? Not a bunch of flower children, I assure you. In the first place, you aren’t going to have any revolution without organization. As soon as the organization gains any size, it will come to the attention of the federal government and will be infiltrated by the whole alphabet soup of federal agencies, all of whom are run by liberals and most of whose members are unquestioningly obedient. This isn’t 1776. Your ability to cross the street without being observed is close to nil. And without organization, you ain’t gonna get your hands on the tanks or helis or planes or anything else. It’s all highly romantic and self-satisfying to talk about revolution. The reality is a little different.
Feel like I’m beating a dead horse, but…
…our trolls sure do seem conspicuous by their absence.
Does their silence mean that they approve of what these animals/thugs did?
Or, does it mean that they are too cowardly to own up to the fact they helped bring about this lousy situation?
Or does it mean that they haven’t figured out how to bu!!$*** and spin it yet?
In context, “you” can be interpreted to mean everybody who reads his post. And in context, my use of “everybody” can also be construed as meaning everybody who reads his post. And I didn’t frame it in quotes. Ergo, a paraphrase, not a misquote. Sorry, your mistake.
I don’t know about gasoline prices, but Jimmy Carter and the CRA, strengthened significantly under Clinton, and not curtailed at all under Bush, pressured banks to lend money to people who really shouldn’t be living in houses.
A certain small percentage of homeowners defaulting can be absorbed by the system, when massive defaults and foreclosures occur, the banks start losing money, and the foreclosed homes put on the market start driving down property values, and more people will realize their homes are worth less than what they owe, and will walk.
That started the whole Fannie/Freddie mess which spread through the banking system.
The current crunch is because 30 years of Democrats insisting that banks loan money to people who didn’t deserve credit.
I am sure her mortgage was PITI (principle, interest, taxes, insurance). Baltimore City’s real estate taxes are the highest in the socialist state of the MD. Our brilliant legislature several years ago ruled out allowing insuance companies to use a person’s credit rating in providing insurance and
setting the premiums. Do you think that lowered the homeowner’s premiums in the USS of MD?
The biggest changes to mortgage payments in MD can come from the real estate taxes and insurance premiums as well as adjustible interest.
On February 20th, 2009 at 12:48 pm,
Actually, we’re seeing the founding members of the president’s brownshirt army. They just haven’t gotten their uniforms yet.
point is, txvet….your paraphrase ain’t what I typed…. but, you impute what you wish to…. I stand by what I meant. The world continues to turn.
An armed insurrection will only work if the military quickly sides with the pro-constitution forces against the totalitarian Obamites.
Obama will ensure the military leadership is loyal to him. All generals and admirals are approved by Congress. Obama can pressure the current patriotic officers to retire early, or assign them dead end jobs. Gays in the military, mandatory PC sensitivity training and the such, may trigger most dedicated servicemen to not re-enlist or retire early. Plus, Obama has talked of a civilian defense force, a praetorian guard, as well funded as the military.
So, if Obama chooses to go the Marxist dictator/Mugabe or Chavez route, citizens with rifles and pistols won’t do well against a trained and well equipped military, unless the military joins the insurrection, and Obama is already working to make that less likely.
On February 20th, 2009 at 12:45 pm, granite said:
They were awfully quiet during the campaign. In 2006, they were everywhere.
I am not usually a conspiracy theorist. I know, that’s what they all say. But, it just seems to me that the economy was humming along very nicely until the last year before the election.
I can’t put my finger on any one thing that would have caused this to happen, other than someone manipulated the financial sector to cause it.
The housing market? It was just one in a series of dominoes. The one it seems that started the falling down of all the rest.
The media had been trashing and whining about the economy the entire Bush presidency. They did fuel the panic but the results are real now.
People are afraid to spend, to borrow or to hire new employees. Others are cutting their costs to the bone with layoffs and inventory reduction.
I just can’t figure out, what caused that first domino to fall?
Maybe the SS will “walk through the house” to, you know, make sure that the
ownersquatter isn’t part of any hate group. ACORN is not a hate group, right? I won’t hold my breath waiting for that to happen.We could go back to obsolete computer languages, wines of the world, and fancy names for french fries, if you’d prefer.
Then there’s always zombies…
McCain was here in Kingman AZ yesterday. Judging by the artical in the local paper, it was classic McCain. He defended using taxpayers’ money to help mortgage deadbeats and prop up real estate prices. But he worries about who will pay America’s debt. He still thinks we need a guest worker program. He pledged to reach across the aisle.
http://kingmandailyminer.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=29912
On February 20th, 2009 at 12:53 pm, granite said:
A month ago today, Obama was sworn in.
Is this all the pent up anarchy left over from a possibly Obama loss?
Hello, banana republic.
I was rather entertained by the computer discussion in the “Hate Mail” thread.
And of course I’m guilty of always discussing the Communist connections to the thread topic.
On the whole, ARMs always have below market rates at first. Otherwise, why do them at all? So all it takes is a slight increase in the interest rates to cause a large variance between the ARM teaser rate and current market rates. Additionally, just a couple of years ago, the fed was raising rates in order to reign in inflation. It was the right move at the time. But if your ARM is ready to adjust and you are in a rising rate environment (ie you gambled or were to lazy and/or stupid to refi), there is nothing you can do but weigh all options and choose the best of the worst.
Many took ARMs out in order to get more house hoping to sell at a profit (basically flipping houses every 2 years). At the same time, the gov’t jawboned banks into more high risk mortgages under the CRA (and allow illegals to buy). Housing prices had reached unsustainable heights with such high demand, which made them unaffordable to average Americans in many areas (FL. CA, NV, AZ). So the only way to most could afford a $500K 2 BR house was to take out ARMs or one of the other new laons the banks developed (no doc loans, $0 down loans, etc). All of this speculation, lead to the eventual decline in prices which left most of these gamblers and/or non credit worthy borrowers with much higher/unaffordable payments on a house that they owed more than it was worth. What they should have done was rent.
The housing market was unsustainable. it was a bubble waiting to pop. It wasn’t planned. It was the inevitable conclusion of stupidity and greed. Like all bubbles.
On February 20th, 2009 at 1:01 pm, Jvette said:
The Marxists have been destabilizing our country for decades.
But if you’re looking within the last year, try looking at this:
That’s why it’s a paraphrase. It might not be what you meant, but then as has already been demonstrated, your post can be read in various ways. You mean what you said, of course. How did that go, I know you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you understood what I meant.
BOO HOO My mortage went up $200.00 a MONTH (after I refinanced). I had an ARM and I worked my a** off for two years to pay my bills on time so my credit would improve. And guess what? Two years later mortgage companies called ME to refinance and this happened in 2008. No I’m not “rich”, where I live I would be considered in the income level of lower middle class. So the gigs up people if you don’t have a job, you don’t pay your bills, or your debt is more than your income YOU CAN’T AFFORD THE HOUSE. AND I DIDN’T WORK MY BUTT OFF TO PAY FOR YOURS BECAUSE YOU REFUSE TO MAKE SACRIFICES LIKE I DID AND STILL DO.
How much longer until ACORN strong arms local utilities into providing water, electricity, etc. for these break-in moochers – with the cost passed along to the rest of us?!?
David…the word “guerrilla” is raaaaacist!
Yep.
ARMs did not exist, as far as I know, until the late 70s or very early 80s.
They were and are a legacy of that dangerous socialist dolt Jimmy Carter. Parallel to his “misery index” of high unemployment and high inflation, there were also very high mortgage interest rates (and lower, but still historically high, rates of return on CDs), ultimately reaching 18-21%, as I remember.
Adjustable-rate mortgages were thus created so as to get folks into the housing market, with the introductory rate significantly lower than the 18-21%.
Gotta say again, thank you, socialists/statists/fascists/collectivists, for bolluxing up our beautiful nation/society/culture.
On February 20th, 2009 at 1:12 pm, Dexter Alarius said:
Agreed.
Our best defense against Obama is a good offense against his ineligibility.
during the 30′s, the rise of the criminal supporting class in this nation grew by leaps and bounds. the fbi under hoover initiated the 10 most wanted to try to get the common man to turn in the criminals. just as at the end of the civil war, the outlaws of the west were generally considered neighbors.
On February 20th, 2009 at 1:10 pm, Weary Citizen said:
Thanks weary. As I said, I’m somewhat of an economic illiterate. That does help me understand a little better.
The fact remains that he was directing his comment to me…thus, he started the post with “Happyscrapper…don’t worry.” And he didn’t say “I will protect everyone”. He said, “Guys like me will protect you.” Very different comments and very different meaning from what you inferred. Apparently, we just interpreted his comments a bit differently. Sorry about the misunderstanding. But whether it was paraphrasing or a direct quote, you made him sound like he was going all Rambo on us.
On February 20th, 2009 at 1:18 pm, kthomas8268 said:
I have a sister that lost her home in late 2007. When she was buying it, we warned her and told her not to do it because we were afraid she was getting in over her head.
Well, she got behind on the payments and no one could or wanted to help her out of her bind. She did it to herself. And worse, she wouldn’t get a part time job to earn more money. She wanted someone else to step up and help her out.
Redpill – exactly. I am surprised how few people understand that The Federal Reserve is neither federal, nor a reserve.
Now there is some one to help them out, and all it costs is your soul!!!
You have no idea how much I wish that man would STFU!!
Make the squatters pay the property taxes then see how willing they are to stay in these homes.
It’s been a dull morning. Just looking for a little lively conversation. No offense meant. But this theme of “Let’s grab our guns and go to war” has been pretty popular lately, and after a while it gets a little irritating (even though I’ve indulged in it a couple of times myself!).
Now on this point, we’re in complete agreement.
Seems like Donna Hanks is the poster child for ACORN. She stars again in an article they posted 2/13
callingthreatening civil disobedience to keep people in “their” homes (they are OUR homes now since we, the people, are paying for them.)Half the reason they can’t afford the homes is because of the taxes and insurance they are very high thanks to their democratic controlled local governments. “The chickens have come home to roost”
My niece and her husband bought a lovely home a couple years ago, thinking they could afford it. Most of the family members were dubious about that. She was not working and he was in an “iffy” job. Well, about 6 months ago, they were foreclosed. They now live in a nice, but smallish apartment and are very happy without all that debt hanging over their heads. They would never have accepted a bailout. They are taking full responsibility for what happened and won’t make that mistake again. And yes, they are conservatives.
I’m gettin’ me a big, mean-lookin’ dog.
Same sort of thing happened to my daughter-in-law’s sister and her husband. He was making good bucks in the awl bidness and they bought a really nice house. He ended up getting laid off when the oil market collapsed and there went the house. It happens. But as we pretty much all agree, it doesn’t mean that the people who still have jobs and are paying their bills should pay the house off for them.
I agree, it can get irritating when overblown. We know we aren’t in the best position to wage war. But I have to say, hearing people like David telling me not to worry and that guys like him have my back…well, I take comfort from that. And I believe there are plenty of others out there who WILL step up if needed. I pray for them every day.
sonofdy said: (#135)
Our army (military) now. But if there were such a revolution as is being theoretically discussed, I think the military would split into two large factions–pro and anti revolution.
We already have one…no wait it is only a long haired chihuhua, but he thinks he is a big, mean-lookin’ dog.
“shooter said:
Does anyone else feel the very fabric of America being ripped apart by obama and his admin , socialists, team of psychos?”
Oh absolutely yes shooter.
Obama is essentially a drug dealer. He and his admin want people to be hooked on his drug… that would be the public teet as Michelle puts it. So that when it comes time to vote, these people absolutely must vote Lib Dem because that is their life line (main-line).
Yeah, Obama is a drug dealer. Only the drug he’s pushing is social dependency.
I was a teen during the carter years but later when learned of the 18%+ interst rates I about fell over. How could anyone ever payoff a mortgage at 18%? Contrast that to today’s spoiled Americans. Interest rates or unemployment hits 8% and everyone acts like it is the great depression. Eventually, if not now, we will have a real depression and that most certianly will lead to civl strife. No way the spolied, especially the parasites, could ever survive real hardship.
John Deaux said: (#161)
Well, I’m mostly ready for the zombies. Brick Arms has a Zombie Weapons Pack that looks helpful. (I bought a different pack.)
Oh, and speaking of old computer languages, what about the programmable HP calculators like the HP 67?
Reverse Polish Notation, anyone?