“This is our house now:” ACORN mob begins breaking into homes
On Wednesday, I said prepare for lawlessness as ACORN’s civil disobedience mob steps up pressure for President Obama’s mortgage entitlement expansion.
Well, are you ready, Baltimore? (Hat tip – Jeff Quinton) ACORN’s troops are breaking the padlocks and breaking into homes. And this is just the start. Caution: OBAMACORN at work.
A community organization breaks into a foreclosed home in what they are calling an act of civil disobedience.
The group wants to train homeowners facing eviction on peaceful ways they can remain in their homes.
Derek Valcourt reports their actions are not without controversy.
Near Patterson Park, the padlock on the door and the sign in the window tells part of Donna Hanks foreclosure story.
“The mortgage went up $300 in one month,” said Hanks, former homeowner.
She says the bank refused to modify her loan and foreclosed, kicking her out of the house in September.
The community group ACORN calls Hanks a victim of predatory lending.
“This is our house now,” said Louis Beverly, ACORN.
And on Thursday afternoon, they literally broke the foreclosure padlock right off the front door and then broke into the house, letting Hanks back in for the first time in months.
Taxpayer-subsidized anarchy is on the way.
Mr. President? Mr. President?
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On February 20th, 2009 at 2:23 pm, ITookTheRedPill said: (#198)
Best calculators made. I admit that RPN takes getting used to, but there is a certain elegance to it.
On February 20th, 2009 at 2:19 pm, Weary Citizen said:
Yep.
Agreed.
We got married, and I started my internship, in Carter’s first year in office.
Inflation was so high, that some of my co-interns/residents bought homes instead of rented, so that their fixed mortgage payments would be, as they told me, in inflation-devalued dollars! That way, they also avoided raises in rent.
He was making good bucks in the awl bidness and they bought a really nice house. He ended up getting laid off when the oil market collapsed and there went the house. It happens.
There is a very good story in the Bible, when Joseph warns that seven years of abundance would be followed by seven years of drought, so it is important to store up during the abundance so that there will be enough during the drought.
When my husband and I both worked and didn’t have children, we saved like crazy. We didn’t buy new cars, a bigger house, jewelry or clothes or extravagant vacations. Now, we are relying on those savings as things in Vegas are grim.
Well, I guess we will not be treated to any of our trolls’:
a) foolish
b) lame
c) diverting
d) snide
e) all of the above
f) please add your own adjective
comments about this thread’s topic.
That speaks volumes right there.
granite,
I just invited chap over.
Perhaps not but I see we’ve been treated to yours!
(Is that kind of what you wanted?)
On February 20th, 2009 at 2:46 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:
I bet he sounds like one too!
Thanks Chap. That will do very nicely.
Maybe, in a couple of days, my wife and I, with friends, will go looking for a bigger home…foreclosed, of course. Just snap the lock and move in. “THIS IS OUR HOUSE NOW”. I might even get our local democrat rep. to come over and bless it, in lieu of the “messiah”.
Jvette: thanks both for your personal account and the Joseph citation. And let’s take a moment to recall where the Joseph incident leads: Pharaoh nationalized the harvest and shared the wealth in return for the people’s cash, cattle, land, and lives. By the end, Pharaoh’s government owned all the grain, all the livestock, all the land, and the people became the slaves of Pharaoh’s government (Gen. 47:13-27).
Not that I’m trying to draw any untoward parallels, mind you – but there’s something to be said about people who don’t learn the lessons of history.
It makes me wonder if they’re using the wrong Biblical character to describe Obama. Perhaps he’s not the Messiah, but Pharaoh.
Food for thought.
You got that right.
Never a disappointment!
‘Course, no comment on the thread’s topic.
It started out as a joke, but I swear I am going to look into developing and marketing the home version of the “Did Chapoutier or Did chapoutier Not Comment on a Particular Topic?” game so that you can play it with your friends on Game Night in between rounds of Pinochle. Maybe even talk to the folks over at Nintendo about an electronic version for the Wii. Seems to be enough of an interest here.
We can blame I took the red pill for this. And I do.
French wine. Pinochle. Are you really the Great Gatsby?
On February 20th, 2009 at 2:58 pm, karnold said:
Good point. The Messiah was a Jew. Pharaoh was an African.
Obama’s grandmother said he was born in Africa, and we know that he was registered with “Religion: Islam” when he attended school in the world’s most populous Muslim nation. (Obama is an African who is no friend of the Jews).
I think Pharaoh is a good analogy.
We can call company Guerilla Movers Inc. LOL
Funny how the local Hawaii newspaper published a concurrent birth anouncement. Never quite understood how you guys explain that one away.
Hey Chap…I think we want you to comment on the topic because we value your opinion so much. Is this or is this not sarcasm? You be the judge.
Happy,
Not sure which, but it made me laugh.
Obama and his henchmen had done an admirable job covering his corrupt trail. I’m sure they had the wherewithall to cover up his origin of birth also. Money and strong arms talk loudly. The truth will come out eventually. Hopefully not too late.
On February 20th, 2009 at 3:07 pm, RTater said:
I just wanted to see what defense the liberal lawyer would come up with for these criminal actions.
Meanwhile, back to the topic of the post…
So Obama’s henchmen were so forward thinking they thought to have a fake birth announcement placed in a Hawaiian newspaper 45 years before it would become an issue?
Surely, if I were to represent them, you would want me to give a vigorous and competent defense, as is a protected right under our Bill of Rights, no?
Or do you stop counting them after number 2?
Red – Now look what you’ve done ! May your socks and underwear be itchy !
Perhaps it would be difficult to fake a birth announcement retroactively, but I bet there is a way!
On February 20th, 2009 at 3:18 pm, chapoutier said:
Easy. Either:
1) It’s legit and info was given to the newspaper by the Dunham grandparents.
or
2) It’s a forgery, too. All we’ve been shown is a small .jpg picture of the supposed newspaper anouncement. How do you know that .jpg is legit?
Funny how we’ve never been shown the officially certified document directly by the Hawaiian officials.
Funny how the Hawaiian officials never said the Certification of Live Birth produced at the Obama offices in Chicago was authentic.
Funny how the Hawaiian officials never said Obama was born in Hawaii.
Funny how the Associated Press lied and said the Hawaiian officials did say Obama was born in Hawaii.
Funny how the Annenberg Political Fact Check lied and claimed they had examined Obama’s “original birth certificate”. (What they inspected was the fraudulent Certification, not the original Certificate)
Funny how Congress inspected one certificate from the State of Hawaii (the Certification of the Electoral College vote), but didn’t inspect the other certificate from the State of Hawaii (the original birth certificate for Obama).
Funny how no hospital in Hawaii has any record of Stanley Ann Dunham Obama being a patient there at the time of Obama’s birth.
Funny how Kenyans know he was born in Kenya, and the Official Report of the Kenyan National Assembly Wednesday, 5th November, 2008 said
Okay – it’s a slow Friday and I’ve worked my ass off this week. I thought I would pretend to be a Private Investigator…
It looks like Donna has been gaming the system for quite a long time. Foreclosure proceedings were started way back in May 2006, after which she immediately filed for bankruptcy. After it dragged on for a year, it was dismissed pursuant to Md. Rule 2-507(c):
It sounds like they gave up while her bankruptcy proceeded. (I don’t see anything regarding her bankruptcy, so I don’t know how that turned out.) The amount due at the time was $253,230.78.
Then, foreclosure proceedings began again last February. Obviously not enough time had passed to allow her to file for bankruptcy again – to stave off the wolves at her door – so this time the case proceeded. The amount due last year had grown to $262,151.84 — an increase of $9k – which probably amounts to the interest that was growing on the debt while she made no payments. The file was closed on 10/03/08, and the lender took possession of the property.
In addition, there is another case pending with Nationwide Insurance. She apparently didn’t pay them either. It’s a civil case, so the amount Nationwide has sued for does not show in the online records.
All information here.
The property is right across the street from a large park, and ~1/2 mile from the harbor. The house right next door is currently for sale for $79.9k. These are row houses — basically all the houses on the block are the same age and have the same dimensions. So how does one end up owing over $250k on a house when the carbon copy of it is $80k???
By the way, Chap…If the people wanted to groom Obama for the Presidency, (I believe they worked on that goal for many years), they would find a way to get his birth documented in the U.S. I have a tendancy to believe his own flesh and blood, his grandmother, who said he was born in Kenya. Why would she lie?
Except for the fact that these announcements apparently came directly from the Vital Statistics Office.
Seeing as probably every major library in Hawaii, and some outside, probably has this on microfiche, if not an original copy, that would be pretty easy to verify one way or the other.
Never said she lied. She could be a very confused old woman. Do we know how many grandchildren she has?
This is a valid point! What say you, RedPill?
Chappy,
Are you really that dense? My sister was born in Japan and my brother in Germany. My mother’s home town newspaper carried birth announcements for each of them. Since my grandparents still lived in my Mom’s hometown and received news of the births via telegram they were able to announce births oceans away “concurrently.”
It happened ALL THE TIME back then. Is that sufficient explanation for your feeble mind?
How many of these people have any investment whatsoever in those homes? I would say none. They were/are glorified deadbeat renters with no stake. Bet they are the same people who strip out the copper and steal the appliances and fixtures too. They should be treated as looters and shot on sight.
WarEagle,
See my answer above.
Notice the heading of the section says “Health Bureau Statistics” i.e., they came from the Health Bureau, which I doubt is in the business of collecting birth notices from proud grandmas and grandpas.
Is that enough ACTUAL EVIDENDCE for your feeble mind?
Watch it, bub! No agist statements here! I may have to find you and whip you with my cane. It seems to me it would be difficult to confuse the birthplace of a grandson. On the other hand, if all of her grandchildren except Obama were born in Kenya, I guess she could be mistaken. It just seems very odd.
I wonder if the Obama admin will speak to this? (Michelle’s point) Yeah, I know and you’ve got some land in wherever you want to sell me…
If I’m not mistaken, this is also the organization that Obama was formerly heavily allied with, which is also receiving monies under the so-called stimulus (driven by Obama) and which has been in a number of investigations (at least 10) for perpetrating voter registration fraud.
How is taxpayer support for this even marginally defensible? Why are no major journalists (in the MSM) “connecting the dots” on this one? I heard continuously under the previous administration, complaint after complaint insinuating there was some kind of quid pro quo between Cheney and Halliburton. Where are the “truthers” now?
Dont worry. 59(?) is not old.
I have no opinion on this topic one way or the other, but delayed birth announcements do happen.
Friends of ours unexpectedly gave birth outside the country. There were complications so when they arrived home, their doctor admitted the mom and baby to a local hospital for monitoring. The hospital included the child’s birth along with its other announcements in the local paper, without mentioning the country where the actual birth had taken place.
chap,
If the KGB/FSB/CPUSA were behind the Dunhams and the Obamas, which I believe they were/are, anything is possible in terms of forgery and deception. Original microfiche could be replaced with microfiche where “Obama’s” announcement was put in place of someone elses.
That’s why I am also concerned that a forgery of the original birth certificate could be produced.
In my view, the single biggest issue, one that cannot be covered up with forged documents, is that Obama’s father was never a U.S. Citizen, and conferred British, not U.S., Citizenship upon his son, Barack Hussein Obama II, at his birth.
Obama was not born and raised with undivided and uncompromising loyalty to the United Sates. He was raised in a foreign country, by Marxists who saw the U.S. as an evil Empire that needed to be brought to its knees.
He chose friends who were Communist Revolutionaries, and his words and actions mimic some of their words and actions.
That is his journey. And now he is actively engaged in his mission.
God help us.
I think we can leave it at that and move on to other topics.
Major O:
Bravo for fighting the diversion of this thread!
I’ve read other similar stories. For example, child born in Germany (parents there with U.S. Army), grandparents in U.S. report the full information to local newspaper, newspaper in one person’s case left off the information about birth location, and in another person’s case the newspaper inexplicably claimed the child had been born in the local U.S. hospital.
Bottom line: a newspaper announcement is not a birth certificate.
If you had to prove to an employer that you were a U.S. citizen, you would have to produce a birth certificate or passport. You couldn’t bring in a newspaper announcement and say, “See! Look here!”.
A newspaper announcement couldn’t get you a job at McDonald’s.
And the job we are talking about now is one of the most important jobs in the world: President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of all of our Armed Forces.
ACORN Non-Partisan?
ACORN FRAUD for Louis F@rr@kh@n’s “Messiah”
Yes, RedPill, why did you invite Chap over here to divert this thread, you stinker? Now, back to our regularily scheduled topic which was…um…what was it again? This old lady forgot.
On February 20th, 2009 at 3:56 pm, chapoutier said:
Ok, chap, bury your head in the sand and ignore the evidence.
Speaking of ACORN being partisan…why isn’t that being talked about more? I mean, they are so blatantly partisan and political, how can they qualify for Federal funds? I mean, this is ridiculous!
I wanted to see if Chap would actually comment on the topic, which so far he hasn’t really.
ACORN mob begins breaking into homes
And Obama is tightly coupled to ACORN, one of the many faces of the Communist Party USA.
I’m not sure. I think RedPill and granite wanted me to prepare a brief outlining my defense strategies for these yahoos.
Would you guys prefer it in IRAC form? Or should I mock it up to look like a Motion to Dismiss?
What I simply cannot understand is, how can he get away with earmarking millions to ACORN? They are HIS lapdogs, pure and simple. He has no right to use his power to fund that corrupt organization.
Chap, I love it when you talk “lawyer”. But what the heck did you say?
Acorn is bipartisan. They’ll accept earmarks from Republicans as well as Democrats. They just won’t help Republicans win elections.
What if he just issued a signing statement with the bill saying that he has no right to fund ACORN, but that the definition of “fund” and “ACORN” was entirely dependent on the executive branch’s interpretation?
IRAC is one way we are taught to structure our legal memos:
Issue
Rule
Analysis
Conclusion
On February 20th, 2009 at 3:54 pm, ITookTheRedPill said: (#239)
I think this is the weakest of your arguments as there are too many copies around to change.
I don’t think that BHO’s US citizenship has been proven beyond the shadow of a doubt. I think, though, that the preponderance of the evidence is in favor of his actually being a US citizen.
As for the Kenyan grandmother, she was either mis-informed or got confused.
On February 20th, 2009 at 4:19 pm,
I guess I asked, didn’t I?
Sure, that will work. Sure, why not? Yeah, that should work just fine.
I believe I mused about the absence of comments from any of our trolls; and speculated about what that absence might mean.
I do not recall asking for a comment from any individual by name; nor do I recall asking for any individual(s) to self-identify as one of our trolls;…
in fact, I do not recall asking for a comment from anyone at all.
If such a request by me can be found, please show me.
Fair enough…but while you have my ear, is there anything you would like me to explain to you?
Anarchy! These people are no better than looters. Give fair notice, then do what governments do to looters! That one thing will help reduce homelessness in these areas, AND make great leaps in eliminating fraudulent voting, all in one fell swoop!
/sarc
Ha! That’ll teach ya! By the way, Chap isn’t a troll, just a liberal who can be annoying at times, but we do keep him around for amusement. He also presents pretty good arguments, which is what we want…right? On the other hand, it is easy to get off topic with him.
Yeah, what’s it all about, Chap?
You know you love it, baby.
What? A couple of people breaking the law and deluding themselves into thinking they are helping their cause and/or engendering sympathy?
This really is not much of a story.
That said, I am all for people knowing their rights in foreclosure, but I am pretty sure breaking padlocks and squatting are among them.
are not among them.
I think the story is in what I noted before:
This isn’t some isolated band of ne’er do wells that someone just happened to catch doing something untoward somewhere. This is a group that CONSERVATIVES HAVE WARNED ABOUT and which they’ve questioned Obama’s relationship to. Many of us were not surprised to see FEDERAL FUNDING for this group in the “stimulus bill.”
We’ve warned about the nature of this group and how partisan they are. This action is just confirmation of what has been said about this group. They seem to be an arm of Obama’s administration/organization, funded by OUR tax dollars.
There are definitely overblown, “sky is falling” non-stories that we on the Right occasionally fall for–this isn’t one of them.
Ha!! Good one. With that, I must take my leave. My grandson needs a babysitter and I am elected.
Fine. If the house DOES belong to ACORN now, offset the collective delinquent property taxes due on “their” houses with the money the Democrats just handed to them. See how long that lasts.
Where exactly are amounts earmarked to ACORN?
Can you point to the page?
Acorn, with their BLT way of thinking, is about as low life scum as it gets. Right next to CAIR in my book.
Good on you. That was some good “kill time”. Amazing no MSM journalists discoverd these tid bits when someone else did this in their spare time.
There are no earmarks in the bill, to hear the illustrious Leader tell it, anyways.
That said, our own Michelle pointed to the fact that funding was added BACK in to the bill last minute
here.
And initially, when Republicans actually had a chance to review the bill, they noted the provision for funding groups like ACORN.
It’s indisputable that Obama worked with ACORN as he was coming up.
It’s indisputable that they are/were under investigation for voter registration fraud in SEVERAL STATES.
It’s now been made known that there are provisions in the stimulus bill for ACORN and groups like it to receive funding under the rubric of “Neighborhood Stabilization Programs.”
So where’s all the connect the dots people to dig into this further? (Besides the Right, like Michelle)
And the more I think of it, even if the funding for the ACORNs of the world had been stripped out of the “stimulus bill”…
WHAT WAS IT DOING THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE??? HOW IS THAT “STIMULATIVE”????
County lockup. Three hots and a cot.
On February 20th, 2009 at 4:33 pm, chapoutier said: (#258)
On February 20th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, happyscrapper said: (#260)
Chapoutier is NOT a troll. Often contrarian, philosophically sometimes a two-timer, but he’s not a troll.
A good person to have around to keep this from being an echo chamber. (And a lot of fun.)
I have to head down to base, but to the best of what I can tell, something looks fishy here with ACORN.
We need to start posting signs in our neighborhoods-
ACORN FREE ZONE
All penalties enforced with both barrels!
And part of that ‘Stabilization’ is the topic of this thread, namely civil disobedience. It takes a lot of money to train people how to break padlocks, you know.
You have to hand it to the liberals, they know how to name their programs, so the proles remain in blissful ignorance;
Fairness Doctrine
Neighborhood Stabilization
Employee Free Choice Act
Freedom of Choice Act
On February 20th, 2009 at 3:49 pm, Major O said:
It’s not.
They are part of the “Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy”.
Too busy celebrating and figuring out how to get their piece of pork.
Oh my goodness. THUGS! Down with taxpayer subsidies to these thugs! obama is truly running a thugocracy!
Their overall program is called-
Stalinists? Not us!
Oops. You are right. Don’t tell anyone I used that word or I may get some demerits.
Ohhhhh…. I see. There is funding for neighborhood stabilization programs, which ACORN, as well as any other state or local government and any of the other hundreds of nonprofit organizations, can submit bids in a competitive process to get a fraction of that money to administer their programs.
Whew. For a minute there I thought there was actual federal funding for this group in the stimulus bill. Thanks for clearing that up.
Yes, kind of like if a request for bid were issued by the feds that only an evil corporation like Haliburton could handle.
Well, I guess there aren’t any other community organizers available to stabalize the community. We’ll have to give it to ACORN. Oh, darn.
You might have a point if this were some new program and ACORN had already gotten all the cash, because they were the only game in town. However, NSPs were started last year, and HUD gave out money to over 300 grantees, the vast majority of which were state or local agencies.
It remains to be seen how much ACORN will get. My guess would be…plenty! Let’s pay attention to the distribution of those funds and see what shakes out.
Shoot them as trespassers.
My father said such things happened during the Dust Bowl and Depression. Neighboring farmers intimidated out of town bidders at bank sales and refused to let the bidding go to no more than a few dollars. Then, they gave the farm to the foreclosed owner. These folks weren’t deadbeats. They were unfortunate victims of an economic crash, and they were angry enough to lynch foreclosure judges. This may be a good time to own weapons.
Yes, why is it that Obama’s birth announcement read backwards is a Beatles tune?
I might be cajoled into someday perusing the local library, but I do believe the local papers would have happily printed a birth announcement based on a conversation overheard at breakfast. Especially in that era.
Don’t bother Aloha. Apparently every single microfiche has been corrupted by the KGB.
They’ve done a good job making Dan Akaka look like he’s still alive.
And that is supposed to pass for a legal document? Does a funeral notice in the Obits pass for a death certificate also?
Never quite understood how you lefties explain that one away.
My guess is, Kenya in 1961 was in no means sophisticated enough to properly register births, golden boy then arrives back in the states (mom ran away from the muslim lord and back to mom & dad), then did everything possible to establish citizenship for the tot. No conspiracy there…not yet anyway.
When it is discovered that these ACORN lawbreakers will not be arrested for breaking and entering we will then have a precedent to go break into any ACORN H.Q. at any time. If accosted by law officials for such ‘civil disobedience’ just point out that as a tax payer you paid for it, and you damn well will enjoy the bennefits afforded by it.
Demonstrating outside of city hall is a waste of time. Demonstrations outside of ACORN offices would be quite poignant as that would get to the root of the problem we face with toxic assetts..
Demonstrating in front of ACORN offices…GREAT idea!! That might actually get some media coverage.
This is an excellent point. I am an avid genealogist. And I have discovered over the years that a lot of the fische out there has totally incorrect information. 45 years ago, the record-keeping was not to be trusted. If Obama’s mother wanted to put an announcement in the Hawaii papers, she could definitely have in sent the announcement and they would have published it. And of course, the microfische would have reflected it also. Mystery solved. Didn’t someone check all the hospitals on the island where he was supposed to have been born? And there was no record at any of them? I believe RedPill mentioned that.
RedPill…what does the newspaper article say about the hospital he was born in? Did it say anything specific?
Tread warily, HS.
Otherwise, you may soon have mockery, scorn, dismissive derision, and ridicule directed against you.
Chap #268
Try starting on pg 261 of the bill. Bills rarely itemize who the money is exactly appropriated too. This is hidden under Community Development Act in the bill which ACORN falls under these organizations money is allocated!