Someone else did it first so my guy is better.

I miss the non-obtuse soap. My point was, in showing an example you may be able to relate better to, that referring to our country as a democracy in casual conversation should not imply anything.

I don’t consider Obama, Reagan or the other 99.999% of people who have done this idiots for this fact. It is a vernacular that we all accept, except when trying to score cheap points. And you know it.

I apologize I have to cover for him so much, but the amount of absurd BS thrown his way is pretty intense.

Chap has stooped to lgm’s favorite tactic:

Someone else did it first so my guy is better.

I miss the old chap.

At what point do you stop covering for this person (Obama) and take a shower?

Understanding the Stimulus
Three contractors are bidding to fix a broken fence at the White House. One is from Chicago , another is from Tennessee , and the third is from Minnesota .

All three go with a White House official to examine the fence. The Minnesota contractor takes out a tape measure and does some measuring, then works some figures with a pencil. “Well,” he says, “I figure the job will run about $900: $400 for materials, $400 for my crew and $100 profit for me.”

The Tennessee contractor also does some measuring and figuring, then says, “I can do this job for $700: $300 for materials, $300 for my crew and $100 profit for me.”

The Chicago contractor doesn’t measure or figure, but leans over to the White House official and whispers, “$2,700.”

The official, incredulous, says, “You didn’t even measure like the other guys! How did you come up with such a high figure?”

The Chicago contractor whispers back, “$1000 for me, $1000 for you, and we hire the guy from Tennessee to fix the fence.”

“Done!” replies the government official.

And that, my friends, is how the new stimulus plan will work

Second clip talking about running our country as a democracy??? Classic. We have a POTUS that does not even know we are a republic and YOU voted for him?

That is a silly, lazy argument. You know as well as I do that, rightly or wrongly, people of all political stripes use the term pretty loosely.

For example:

“In America, our orgins matter less than our destinations. And that is what democracy is all about.”

Who do you think said that?

Recall you have the hot scandanavian daughter that I am trying to hook up with Aloha.

You scare me, Chap! Your memory is too good!

So, Chap, you are saying that Veterans’ Groups would be less interested in the economy, and should therefore have less input than say, oh…. these guys?

No I am saying Veterans groups tend to focus on narrow issues involving veterans. I notice you don’t hear a lot from them with respect to abortion, though I am sure many veterans care about the issue.

How did you know I am half Norwegian?

Recall you have the hot scandanavian daughter that I am trying to hook up with Aloha.

Democrats/liberals won a majority of the votes in the last election. Do you think a 50/50 split would be fair?

Well, yes, we know they won. They remind us by saying it every day. So, if we go by the election, we should have at least a 45% representation. We don’t.

“Lutefisk” and “gravlax” do not count.

How did you know I am half Norwegian?

I am an hilarious “elderly” woman, grandmother of 2 and 3/4 boys, I go to church most Sundays. And I bet I know some words you’ve never hear of.

FIFY!

Do veterans groups normally involve themselves heavily with issues pertaining to the economy? Let’s not get silly here.

So, Chap, you are saying that Veterans’ Groups would be less interested in the economy, and should therefore have less input than say, oh…. these guys?

Dr. Ho Tran, Asian Pacific Islanders American Health Forum (APIAHF)
Eleanor Hinton Hoytt, Black Womens Health Imperative

In other words, a Conservative.

That is a result, not a process.

Also, a fair and balanced representation of the competing interests would be nice.

First, focusing on raw number of participants and relying on this author’s representations of a group’s slant is perhaps not the best way to go about it. Second, Democrats/liberals won a majority of the votes in the last election. Do you think a 50/50 split would be fair?

Look down this list of “competing groups” and find The Disabled Veterans of America, The Paralyzed Veterans of America, Vietnam Veterans Association, the ROA, the AUSA, or any other veteran’s group represented.

Do veterans groups normally involve themselves heavily with issues pertaining to the economy? Let’s not get silly here. Your idea of “all or none” is absurd. I notice PETA is not there either. Would their absence invalidate any group, in your mind?

I would expect many veterans groups to be invited to any discussion having to do with veterans issues.

Remember the term, “token black” That’s what those conservative groups represent.

I am sure they feel used. I wonder why they didn’t turn down the invitation.

And I bet I know some words you’ve never hear of.

“Lutefisk” and “gravlax” do not count.

On February 24th, 2009 at 12:50 pm, chapoutier said:
You don’t have to agree with the outcome to believe the process is fair.
And of course, you don’t have to believe that the arbiter is always fair to agree that the system as an ideal is best.

Unfortunately, the arbiter and the system are part of a carnival, or casino game. We all know how that works. Take the mark but make them feel good when they lose.

lol…

My little old, grey haired, 91 year old, Swedish mother can school us both. The Norweign’s and Swedes were most creative