Gasp: DHS Secretary alarmed that immigration laws enforced under her watch

By Michelle Malkin  •  February 26, 2009 09:04 AM

Oh, the open-borders crowd’s heads are exploding.

Under President Obama and DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano’s watch, federal immigration agents had the nerve to — gasp! — enforce immigration laws.

How could this happen? Quick, launch an investigation! This must not be allowed to stand!

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on Wednesday ordered a review of a raid at an engine plant in Washington State that resulted in the arrests of 28 people suspected of being illegal immigrants.

A high-level official in the Department of Homeland Security said that Ms. Napolitano had not been informed about the raid on Tuesday before it happened, and that she was seeking details about its planning and scope.

“She was not happy about it because it’s inconsistent with her position, and the president’s position on these matters,” said the official, who agreed to discuss the matter on condition of anonymity because the secretary had not authorized the conversation.

You can be sure the taxpayer-funded National Council of Raza will use all the earmark money it will be receiving to lobby aggressively for comprehensive shamnesty:

The National Council of La Raza urged supporters to call the White House and demand Mr. Obama lay out his immigration policy, while the National Immigration Forum said the raid was an unwelcome continuation of Bush administration policies.

“What are Latino and immigrant voters to think? They turn out in massive numbers and vote for change and yet ‘change we can believe in’ turns out to be ‘business as usual,’ ” said Ali Noorani, executive director of the forum.

He called for a halt to the raids while Homeland Security conducts its review of immigration policies.

As for the poor, innocent workers nabbed in the raid, guess what? The raid was the result of a gang investigation:

“Information derived from two gang members previously arrested in an ICE gang operation led to the initiation of the work-site investigation at Yamato Engine Specialists,” said press secretary Kelly Nantel. “Follow-up investigation uncovered a potentially large number of illegally employed workers. ICE conducted the operation in order to identify and if appropriate, apprehend any unauthorized workers and to further determine potential criminal activity.”

Homeland Security officials worried about gang and criminal activity?

This must not stand!

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  1. #1
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:08 am, right4life said:

    this ties in with Mark Stanford, laundering money for the mexican gangs, and giving large amounts to democrats.

    the mexican gangs either own, or are going to own the democrats and our country will be Norte Mexico..

    I’ve started to learn spanish, might as well join the winning side..

    Viva la Raza!

  2. #2
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:08 am, Kevin K. said:

    O TEMPORES! O MORES!

  3. #3
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:11 am, sonofdy said:

    Can’t wait till that mexican drug war makes it to Utah!!!

    That will be FUN!!!

  4. #4
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:14 am, zyzzyg said:

    The only policy is to follow the law. Representative Ron Paul, was the one and only Republican candidate, to say so, yet the focus was on the ‘front runners.’

    Because he ‘couldn’t’ win, any wisdom he brought to the discussion was ignored. Hey, how about Rep Paul’s monetary policy? Where would we be now if we had listened to him.

    Just follow the freakin’ law, and listen to the good ideas of everyone.

  5. #5
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:15 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    Actually I started learning a mixture of Spanish and Chinese.

    美好的上午 Senor.

  6. #6
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:16 am, right4life said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:11 am, sonofdy said:
    Can’t wait till that mexican drug war makes it to Utah!!!

    That will be FUN!!!

    its alreayd in phoenix…2nd highest kidnapping rate in the world..

    I’m hoping to learn enough spanish to join La Eme, the Texas Syndicate or Nuesta Familia…

    Viva La Raza!!

  7. #7
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:17 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    And who was our governor?

  8. #8
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:18 am, granite said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:08 am, Kevin K. said:

    O TEMPORES! O MORES!

    Good one!

    (BTW, minor point: Tempus is neuter, so it would be (O Tempora!…!)

  9. #9
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:19 am, ajmontana said:

    further determine potential criminal activity.”

    ah, hello! Being illegal is criminal activity. :roll:

  10. #10
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:20 am, ajmontana said:

    Newsflash to La Raza!!!!
    This is not your Country!

  11. #11
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:21 am, right4life said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:20 am, ajmontana said:
    Newsflash to La Raza!!!!
    This is not your Country!

    yet…

  12. #12
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:22 am, RetFireman said:

    So let me see if I have this right…

    She is all upset because the INS carried out it’s job of enforcing the laws and rules already on the books. Said laws and rules, according to her, are against whaat she and Der Fuhrer have decided their position is…even though Der Fuhrer ran his campaign on stronger immigration rules and such…is that right?

    I’m sorry folks, but when you have an illegal immigrant sitting in the Oval Office, running the show, you should not be shocked at anything that is done in the name of Immigration.

    “The Rule of Law” means nothing to these people, and they flaunt our own Constitution every single day. aathis is what happens when you elect someone based on emotion..or just stay home.

    And IT WILL GE EVEN WORSE!!!

    I told you so just rings so empty and hollow, doesn’t it guys?

  13. #13
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:23 am, sonofdy said:

    Oh and the useless assult weapons ban is coming back. No bayonet lugs for YOU!!!

  14. #14
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:25 am, formerwm said:

    My son, who is in law enforcement, works on the Texas Border. It is a revolving door down there. He told me that thousands of dollars are spent daily taking these border jumpers to the hospital. They get scatscans, xrays, lab work, free medicine etc…all on our dime. Many come back over and over just to get free medical care, and of course there are the pregnant ones. Americans are now second class citizens in our own country.

  15. #15
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:29 am, RetFireman said:

    Don’t forget…go out and buy your ammunition today. Quantities are limited and supplies are running out. There is a big party brewing and you don’t want to be left empty handed.

  16. #16
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:32 am, rplatt said:

    Wonderful Napolitano, you idiot . . . just let them rape, pillage and plunder so the scummy Party of the Democrats can cop a few more votes. This current left wing government is sick.

  17. #17
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:33 am, granite said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:25 am, formerwm said:

    My son, who is in law enforcement, works on the Texas Border. It is a revolving door down there. He told me that thousands of dollars are spent daily taking these border jumpers to the hospital. They get scatscans, xrays, lab work, free medicine etc…all on our dime. Many come back over and over just to get free medical care, and of course there are the pregnant ones. Americans are now second class citizens in our own country.

    This is without question a war upon us.
    The only question is, when will we recognize it and admit it, and disproportionately defend ourselves, so that it does not happen again….

  18. #18
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:33 am, seveneleventy said:

    Hey, if the Treasury Secretary doesn’t have to pay his taxes, and the Energy Secretary doesn’t know that oil is his purview, then why would you expect the Homeland Security Secretary to enforce immigration law?

  19. #19
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:34 am, granite said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:29 am, RetFireman said:

    Don’t forget…go out and buy your ammunition today. Quantities are limited and supplies are running out. There is a big party brewing and you don’t want to be left empty handed.

    Planning to very soon – first time.

  20. #20
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Homeland Security officials worried about gang and criminal activity?

    This must not stand!

    And Stand it will not. Secretary Janet Napolitano, President Obama as is John McCain and former President Bush do not wish our borders to stand and stand they will not. These people and their fellow Internationalist agree with the sentiments of Former Attorney General Janet Reno that the nations of this Hemisphere will surrender their outdated concepts of National Sovereignty.

    The Free Movement of People, Goods and Capital is the New World Order. America? “It is only a place-a continent, no different than other places. There is nothing exceptional about this place”. After all the Constitution this people swore to defend and protect is “but a Bill of Negative Rights” written by a bunch of old dead white guys.

    All this from the people re-introducing the “Assault” Weapons Ban, gun licensing and registration, the Federalization of medical records, Civilian Security Service and ever more control of our lives. In a word – Fascism.
    I would guess Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano considers herself a good person; so did Reichsführer Heinrich Himmler.

    in the words of James Madison, “The ultimate authority … resides in the people alone. … The advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation … forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition.” …

  21. #21
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am, jt3151 said:

    PresidentObama has promised immigration enforcement that would focus less on illegal workers and more on the employers who rely on them.

    How can you punish the employers for hiring illegals, while allowing the illegals to keep their jobs?

    This administration is a nightmare.

  22. #22
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:38 am, expres12 said:

    Socialism, open borders, no rule of law, gun control, first amendment threats, did we have an election in November or a coup?

  23. #23
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:39 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:23 am, sonofdy said:

    Oh and the useless assault weapons ban is coming back. No bayonet lugs for YOU!!!

    Can’t do Greek so I will try this in English:

    Come and take them

    ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
    Should be a convenience store
    NOT a Government Agency

  24. #24
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:39 am, taylork said:

    Too bad. Obama does know that with unemployment at over 5 million there are now 28 positions now available, right.

    Create jobs, enforce immigration laws.

  25. #25
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:39 am, granite said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am, jt3151 said:

    This administration is a nightmare.

    And this is only its 37th day out of 1461.
    God help and protect us.

  26. #26
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:40 am, cabrerski said:

    This is sooooo typical of Sappy Nappy. This is the crap we had to put up with in Arizona. The National Guard was deployed to the border and when an armed group invaded, they had to retreat.

    It appeared the then-Governor only wanted the National Guard to support the Border Patrol – change the oil in the vehicles, make runs to McDonalds, etc.

    If it wasn’t contrary to the way Big Government types think, they would eliminate the BP and the rest of ICE. Knowing Napoltano, she will soon re-assign all BP agents to Alaska (until they find one illegal there).

  27. #27
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:42 am, taylork said:

    …and I’m just going to take a wild guess and say that the border fence wasn’t an infrastructure project in the porkulus.

  28. #28
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:42 am, Elm Creek Smith said:

    Secretary Seeks Review of Immigration Raid
    By THE NEW YORK TIMES
    Published: February 26, 2009
    WASHINGTON — Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on Wednesday ordered a review of a raid at an engine plant in Washington State that resulted in the arrests of 28 people suspected of being illegal immigrants.

    A high-level official in the Department of Homeland Security said that Ms. Napolitano had not been informed about the raid on Tuesday before it happened, and that she was seeking details about its planning and scope.

    “She was not happy about it because it’s inconsistent with her position, and the president’s position on these matters,” said the official,… (Emphasis added)

    The rule of law is inconsistent with her position and the President’s position? I may be confused, but isn’t one of the duties of the Executive Branch to enforce the damn’ laws?

    Hope is not a plan; and not all change is good! The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST!!!

    ECS

  29. #29
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:43 am, John Deaux said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:34 am, granite said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:29 am, RetFireman said:

    Don’t forget…go out and buy your ammunition today. Quantities are limited and supplies are running out. There is a big party brewing and you don’t want to be left empty handed.

    Planning to very soon – first time.

    Don’t wait too long. Quantities really are limited and supplies really are running out. Wal-Mart is a month behind on rifle inventory and ammo is scarce.

  30. #30
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:44 am, DagneyT said:

    “She was not happy about it because it’s inconsistent with her position, and the president’s position on these matters,”

    We won’t recognize our country in four two years!

  31. #31
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:45 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    “She was not happy about it because it’s inconsistent with her position, and the president’s position on these matters,”

    What’s the matter, this going to cut into your voter base? You bet it is.

  32. #32
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:46 am, jjmurphy said:

    “She was not happy about it because it’s inconsistent with her position, and the president’s position on these matters,”

    What?!?!?!?

    I think my head exploded! Enforcing immigration laws is not consistent with the head of the department controlling immigration? I know, I know. Sanity left the building a long time ago.

  33. #33
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:47 am, right4life said:

    Don’t wait too long. Quantities really are limited and supplies really are running out. Wal-Mart is a month behind on rifle inventory and ammo is scarce.

    cheaperthandirt.com

    the best place on God’s earth to buy ammo…

  34. #34
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:47 am, jjmurphy said:

    We won’t recognize our country in four two years six months!

  35. #35
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:49 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    “She was not happy about it because it’s inconsistent with her position, and the president’s position on these matters,”

    Are they ^$%#ing kidding me????

    What in the hell IS their position????? Let these people that break our laws and evade payment of taxes continue to run rampant???

    Someone needs to give this moron Janet Napolitano a clue. She needs to be in jail right next to the 28 illegals in that raid.

    I don’t understand what’s going on with our country. How in the name of God is this behavior by appointed and elected officials being tolerated?

  36. #36
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:50 am, sonofdy said:

    We won’t recognize our country in four two years six months!

    I am already there.

  37. #37
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:51 am, RTater said:

    Bullets won’t protect you from anthrax.

    A professor from Kuwait, the country liberated from Saddam Hussein’s attack squads by the United States in the first Gulf War, has outlined on Arab television a potential terror attack that would involve smuggling anthrax from Mexico into the U.S. and killing 330,000 people in 60 minutes.

    The plan was described by Abdallah Al-Nafisi in a speech that aired on Al-Jazeera television Feb. 2, according to MEMRI, the Middle East Media Research Institute, an independent nonprofit that provides translations and analysis of media reports.

    Al-Nafisi, whose school affiliation was not identified, says: “Four pounds of anthrax – in a suitcase this big – carried by a fighter through tunnels from Mexico into the U.S., are guaranteed to kill 330,000 Americans within a single hour, if it is properly spread in population centers there.”

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=90019

  38. #38
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:53 am, granite said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:38 am, expres12 said:

    Socialism, open borders, no rule of law, gun control, first amendment threats, did we have an election in November or a coup?

    Good question.

  39. #39
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:56 am, DagneyT said:

    NJ Aviator, it is not being tolerated! The problem is that we are powerless to change it. Elections have consequences, and we’re living them!

  40. #40
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:58 am, maisy said:

    No question it was a coup…
    LOCK AND LOAD !

  41. #41
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:58 am, wighttrasch said:

    it’s inconsistent with her position, and the president’s position on these matters

    I see many other posters have questioned this line–and yes, it was really uttered by a live human being…

    See how they use mock outrage, deflection and all the other tricks in the bag without ever having to answer the question that is never posed by the MSM?

  42. #42
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:58 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Only semi-OT

    Texas State Senator Mario Gallegos- Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo needs minority set-asides.

    Is Gallegos admitting minority owned businesses can’t compete in the free market, or is he helping pad the pockets of some friends. I imagine the actual people working the rodeo would be about the same ethnic balance either way.

    I’d hope in Texas this’ll fail miserably.

    As we were first to tell you last night on the news, a Houston state lawmaker is filing a bill and hoping to change things at the rodeo.

    State Senator Mario Gallegos said he’s frustrated because a group of local elected officials have been meeting with Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo officials for over a year and they are unhappy with the rodeo’s response. Now the senator is planning to file a bill.

    At this year’s rodeo round up, downtown Houston was filled with people who are eager for this year’s to get underway. Sen. Gallegos said he’s simply not satisfied with the way the rodeo is run.

    “We plan to file a bill that deals with diversity and more of the open records,” said Sen. Gallegos.

    This Friday, Sen. Gallegos will file a bill which will in part: require non-profits to appoint a board of directors that reflect the diversity of its constituents, answer fully to all open records requests, and make reasonable efforts to increase minority participation in contracts.

    “I’m glad to hear that Sen. Gallegos is taking formal action, i.e. a bill, to try to get it where we know what the rodeo is doing with their money,” said Houston City Council Member Jolanda Jones.

    The live stock show’s Chief Operating Officer Leroy Shafer said the bill is unnecessary because the rodeo is very open.

    “The Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo as far as transparency is concerned has complied with all rules and regulations of the IRS,” said Shafer.

    Shafer said it even used a competitive process to select well known lobbyist Robert Miller to fight any potential legislation.

    “If in fact the legislation is something that would adversely affect the HLSR, then absolutely we want people involved that can guide us through this process,” said Shafer.

    The bill would only apply to non-profits located in a county with more than 3.3 million people, and does business with a local government like Harris County.

    BTW, the livestock show and rodeo gives millions each year in scholarships, and per KPRC-TV Channel 2 news, over 30% of those scholarships go to Hispanic students.

  43. #43
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:59 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Wal-Mart is a month behind on rifle inventory and ammo is scarce.

    Rifles, shotguns and shotgun sheels are plentyful at the walmart here. Forget about ammo though. None for 2 months. The guns shows have plenty if you can takes large crowds stuffed into small spsces.

  44. #44
    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:59 am, kudafa said:

    I live in South Florida, along the coast. Illegals step off a boat, & run for their illegal friend’s homes. This point may need verified, but I was told this by a former mayor of town. Among all the other ways to stay here, if an illegal gets into a car accident & files a law suit, he cannot be deported until the suit is finalized. That can take months, or even a few years. It’s pretty easy to get into another accident, so the illegal will never go home.Then there is a thriving industry that arranges car accidents. The participants pay a fee to sit in the car, & then either look for an accident,(often mini vans as they are red lights as to a family, with insurance) or meet up with the other car that’s been arrranged for a “collision.”. Of course, then there are the runners that get paid, & the corrupt doctors & lawyers that make a living dealing with this fraud.

  45. #45
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:00 am, wighttrasch said:

    By the way–here in Missouri you can buy some ammo at pawnshops.

    Shop around–the ones I’ve purchased don’t have a markup either.

    I bought two boxes of .38 hollowpoints.

  46. #46
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:01 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    RTater said:

    Bullets won’t protect you from anthrax.

    If the sights of the G36 that the bullet is in is trained on anything leaving one of those tunnels it will.

  47. #47
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:02 am, MBuck said:

    Be ready.

    That’s all.

    Just be ready.

  48. #48
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:03 am, ajmontana said:

    I thought their position was to enforce current laws? lmao, yeah, I know. Why is their position different than what is written? yup, know that to but thanks for listening. lol

    W.H.A.T.A.F.L.I.P.P.I.N.J.O.K.E.

  49. #49
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:05 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    It is a darn shame, that while maybe not quite as pro-illegal immigrant as Obama, John McCain (of the failed McCain-Kennedy-Bush Amnesty Bill) was also very weak on border security. Would have made an excellent wedge issue ordinary Americans would understand.

    Also too bad McCain was hooked on the global warming hysteria. Explaining that Obama and International Socialist (ie, Communist) Global Warming Czarina Browner’s plans to cut CO2 by 80% in 40 years without using nuclear power meant contracting the economy by almost as much, might have also been a winning issue.

    Goodness knows, I did what I could to support McCain, especially after he picked Palin, even sent money, but he was not only a milquetoast Republican, he was a grade A sucky candidate.

  50. #50
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:05 am, RTater said:

    NJ-Av – That would be all fine and well if we didn’t have a Chief Executive and Director of Homeland Security who were doing everything in their power (and beyond) to keep that G36 away from the US side of that tunnel.

  51. #51
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:08 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:47 am, right4life said:

    cheaperthandirt.com

    the best place on God’s earth to buy ammo…

    All .380 ammo is out of stock so, there goes your theory. Gun shows.

  52. #52
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:09 am, MrScribbler said:

    “She was not happy about it because it’s inconsistent with her position, and the president’s position on these matters,”

    Then their positions are contrary to the law, which means they — Osama Obama and Napolitano — are violating the law, and thus are violating their oaths of office.

    Grounds for impeachment.

    Now.

  53. #53
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:09 am, cabrerski said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 9:58 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    I will buy into racial and other quotas when they apply the same to the NBA and other professional sports. Can you imagine that every basketball team must have two white starters, one and one-half blacks, one and one-half hispanics, and one other. This is how silly this crap is.

  54. #54
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:10 am, taylork said:

    …that would involve smuggling anthrax from Mexico into the U.S. and killing 330,000 people in 60 minutes.

    Anthrax can’t kill that quickly. Unless your snorting it. So unless it was disguised as cocaine, it ain’t possible.

    And that would take tons (i.e. tens of thousands of pounds) for those numbers to be possible.

  55. #55
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:11 am, lottadawg said:

    Everything seems to be going to the Liberal B.H.Obama’s plan. Or anyway, somebodies plan. As a citizen, I have absolutely no representation in this government. That’s because I didn’t sneak across the border, fit the template of the new liberal Chavez style government, or rob a bank. As always with government out of control, if you have done the right thing you will be lose your freedom. That is because of all for one, one for all, policies that do not address the real problem. If your papers are in order , Comrade, then you have nothing to fear. Meanwhile the lazy ass bureaucrats rubber stamp and police those that are well documented and have been given power to penalize and make drastic decisions about your and my life, without accountability.
    This happens because my representative, Comrade Glenn Nye, is being led around by his mother, Nancy Pelosi. She and the two Daddy figures in Virginia, who happen to be Very Democratic Senitors, and an Governor , have completely gone to the dark side, and tell young Glenn just how he has to represent me.
    This is an oppressive Government. If you don’t live in Calif. or the Northeast, you don’t matter. We now have a Federal Government styled after the politics of Illinois. Pretty akin to street mob rule.

  56. #56
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:13 am, right4life said:

    All .380 ammo is out of stock so, there goes your theory. Gun shows.

    first of all thats wimpy ammo..you need a bigger gun :P

    in this age of the people, you need the people’s weapon… an AK-47

    power to the people

    if they don’t have it you’re going to have a hard time finding it…

    they have a notify when they get some ammo…I tried that, and I was notified in a day or two…

  57. #57
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:16 am, right4life said:

    7.62 x 39 ammo has really went up in price…

  58. #58
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:19 am, lgm said:

    Under President Obama and DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano’s watch, federal immigration agents had the nerve to — gasp! — enforce immigration laws.

    MM, please take a moment to catch your breath! Hyperventilating over every Democratic slight, no matter how trivial, is not a way to have a conversation, if that’s what you want.

    Ms. Napolitano had not been informed about the raid on Tuesday before it happened, and that she was seeking details about its planning and scope.

    “She was not happy about it because it’s inconsistent with her position, and the president’s position on these matters,”

    Elections have consequences. McCain ran on kickin’ `em all out no questions asked. Obama didn’t. Americans voted for Obama.

  59. #59
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:20 am, right4life said:

    Elections have consequences. McCain ran on kickin’ `em all out no questions asked. Obama didn’t. Americans voted for Obama.

    he did? what are you smoking/snorting???

  60. #60
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:20 am, taylork said:

    . McCain ran on kickin’ `em all out no questions asked.

    Clearly you’re talking about a different John McCain.

  61. #61
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:21 am, Azygos said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:16 am, right4life said:
    7.62 x 39 ammo has really went up in price…

    Yes it has but you can’t find it here in Phoenix. I did find a couple of boxes but it had gone up to $1 dollar a round. The local walmart had 2 boxes of 223 and 3 boxes of 45 ACP and nothing else except 12 ga target ammo.

  62. #62
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:21 am, right4life said:

    Elections have consequences. McCain ran on kickin’ `em all out no questions asked. Obama didn’t. Americans voted for Obama.

    yeah and when your neighborhood becomes a playground for La Eme and their friends, don’t complain!! :P

    practice ducking…

  63. #63
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:21 am, taylork said:

    Hyperventilating over every Democratic slight, no matter how trivial, is not a way to have a conversation, if that’s what you want.

    and I supposed making facts up, crapping them out of this board and then leaving without ever responding to the fact that you’ve been proven wrong (again) is?

  64. #64
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:22 am, right4life said:

    Yes it has but you can’t find it here in Phoenix. I did find a couple of boxes but it had gone up to $1 dollar a round. The local walmart had 2 boxes of 223 and 3 boxes of 45 ACP and nothing else except 12 ga target ammo.

    you can still get it at cheaper than dirt… WOLF ammo…the people’s ammo comrade..

    and if you havea .223 get some ss109 penetrator rounds…just in case.. ;-)

  65. #65
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:26 am, jjmurphy said:

    lgm – Remember I was checking with the elves and wizards about transporting you and your liberal friends to your own fantasy world to live out your socialist utopia? Well, I finally heard back from them. They said not a chance! The wizards and elves said you all are way too far removed from reality.

    I’ll see if Sauron and his orcs can put you all to good use.

  66. #66
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:26 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    #53 Cabrerski:

    Like I said, either Gallegos is trying to win contracts for his friends wealthy enough to own businesses, or he is saying Blacks and Hispanics aren’t smart enough or motivated enough to compete with White owned businesses on a level playing field.

  67. #67
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:27 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:13 am, right4life said:

    All .380 ammo is out of stock so, there goes your theory. Gun shows.

    first of all thats wimpy ammo..you need a bigger gun

    Done but I am a small guy who can’t carry anything bigger without imprinting.

    I am quite sure you do not want to be hit with a .380 hollow point! :P

  68. #68
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:30 am, RTater said:

    WOLF is crap. Avoid it, or use it as a very last resort. Just my opinion.

  69. #69
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:30 am, right4life said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:27 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    glock 23 .40 small but with plenty of pop…

    everybody needs a handgun, a high-powered rifle, and a shotgun 12 gauge…

  70. #70
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:31 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Americans Idiots voted for Obama.

  71. #71
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:31 am, right4life said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:30 am, RTater said:
    WOLF is crap. Avoid it, or use it as a very last resort. Just my opinion

    Uncle Vladimir may just send you a polonium present :P

    its russian ammo..power to the people..

    I’ve never had any problems with it..

  72. #72
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:31 am, battleaxe said:

    We’re heading down the path of bending over for every country, race, religion, and even sexual preference. I haven’t decided if I need to learn to speak Chinese, Spanish, Russian, or Arabic, but I know we’ll be bowing to one of these new overlords soon. I just hope we don’t surrender to France, that would be too humiliating.

  73. #73
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:32 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    McCain was a co-sponsor of the McCain-Kennedy (as in the DWI Killer) Amnesty Bill. He may not have been quite as gung-ho pro-illegal alien as Obama, but he wasn’t that far behind.

    Now, former Arkansas Governor Huckabee was pro-illegal immigration, and even spoke to LULAC conferences, before having a road to Damascus moment when he began his primary campaign (just as Al Gore in 1988 was struck temporarily blind when the voice of Gaia the Earth Goddess asked him why he was pro-life, and he instantly became pro-abortion when he ran for the Dem nomination) and suddenly discovering he was in favor of secure borders and respect for the immigration laws.

    Now, Duncan Hunter had always been on the right side of the issue, which is probably why the MSM ignored him and Tom Tancredo, and they were never more than fringe candidates.

  74. #74
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:34 am, cabrerski said:

    lgm,

    You make me laugh…a lot…

    Granted that the majority of Americans voted for Obama. That is factual. What is not the truth and the whole truth is that same majority believes in every single thing that Obama believes in (especially since he did not reveal his position on everything – just like any other politician).

    WE ARE HUMAN and thus have different views on many things. Very few individuals will agree on everything. I believe that if you accurately polled Americans on the border issue, you would find most want enforcement first.

    And as for your criticism of MM, she is pointing out details that criticize the new Government. She has that right as you do to criticize others. What makes it interesting, is you seem to embrace your rights and forget others may exercise theirs.

  75. #75
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:34 am, John Deaux said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:27 am, On-my-soap-box said:
    I am quite sure you do not want to be hit with a .380 hollow point!

    A .22 is deadly with proper shot placement. Anything is better than the pointed stick most liberals will be using.

    Sportsman’s guide is another good source.

  76. #76
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:36 am, Savage24 said:

    Don’t worry about Wal Mart carrying your ammo, reload it yourself.
    In El Paso they are planning to rename one of the hospitals, I suggested they call it “Juarez Emergency Trauma Center”
    they treat the gun shot patients of the drug wars in that border town.

  77. #77
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:36 am, J S Ragman said:

    Wait a minute. If we don’t raid questionable businesses, then how are we going to punish those evil corporate executives who are exploiting the poor, hard-working “undocumented immigrants”?

    Do I really need to put a /sarc tag at the end?

  78. #78
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:37 am, cabrerski said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:26 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said

    Ed #66,

    How about both?

  79. #79
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:37 am, granite said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:09 am, cabrerski said:

    I will buy into racial and other quotas when they apply the same to the NBA and other professional sports.

    I’ve had that opinion for a good number of years now.

    And don’t forget about identity-group “norming” for examination grading.

    It would be OK with me if my flight’s pilot, or my car’s mechanic, or my doctors, or my electrician, only sort of knew what they were doing…!
    Right?

  80. #80
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:39 am, cabrerski said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:34 am, John Deaux said:
    Anything is better than the pointed stick most liberals will be using.

    The funny part is watching them try to figure out if the pointed end goes away from their bodies or inward…

  81. #81
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:42 am, granite said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:34 am, John Deaux said:

    Anything is better than the pointed stick most liberals will be using.

    Correct.

    ‘Course, the brave socialists might decide to use fresh fruit…then, they’ll at least have a chance! (Pace, Monty Python.)

  82. #82
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:42 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:30 am, right4life said:

    glock 23 .40 small but with plenty of pop…

    I can’t conceal this and it is smaller.

    PF-9

  83. #83
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:47 am, Freddy said:

    Well, lets not forget that our DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano stated just last week that ‘no drug/gang violence has spilled across the border’.

    Clearly, in her mind, this was simply harassment of hard working illegal aliens.

  84. #84
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:54 am, JohnnyD said:

    “What are Latino and immigrant voters to think? They turn out in massive numbers and vote for change and yet ‘change we can believe in’ turns out to be ‘business as usual,’ ” said Ali Noorani, executive director of [National Immigration Forum].

    Whao, wait one minute there. You mean to tell me Illegals are voting in this country? AND they expect better treatment? What’s a red-blooded, white, middle-aged American to do now?

    [The above questions are rhetorically sarcastic]

  85. #85
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:54 am, Laree said:

    There is going to be such a huge populist backlash to this corruptocrats they are going to be blown over like one of Al Gore’s hurricanes hit them. That’s right Napolitano- “Build It” the resentment! American Citizens and LEGAL Immigrants will respond the Backlash will come. Shortsighted bureaucrats.

  86. #86
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:55 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    All this talk about guns…

    I miss CW!!!

  87. #87
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:58 am, swede said:

    At the risk of receiving some serious flack here, maybe the Shamnesty bill wasn’t so bad.

    When Dear Leader and our luny lawmakers get around to immigration, Shamnesty will look like the Berlin wall.

    Just saying…

  88. #88
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:59 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    “What are Latino and immigrant voters to think? They turn out in massive numbers and vote for change

    Like I said earlier, Code for Obama voters.

    And lgm said Americans voted for Obama.

    OOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKK :roll:

  89. #89
    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:59 am, jjmurphy said:

    There is going to be such a huge populist backlash to this corruptocrats they are going to be blown over like one of Al Gore’s hurricanes hit them.

    I hope you are right, but remember, the liberals have two years to raise the percentage of voters who are dependent on the federal government for their livelihood, and do not pay taxes, to well above 50%. Who do you think those deadbeats will side with?

  90. #90
    On February 26th, 2009 at 11:00 am, jeanie said:

    What are white, middle class citizen, (for the moment)majority voters to think about this? I have decided that it’s possible to know too much about what’s happening in the world and country.

  91. #91
    On February 26th, 2009 at 11:01 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    What an ugly, third world country the US is becoming.

  92. #92
    On February 26th, 2009 at 11:02 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    RTater said:

    NJ-Av – That would be all fine and well if we didn’t have a Chief Executive and Director of Homeland Security who were doing everything in their power (and beyond) to keep that G36 away from the US side of that tunnel.

    Yup RTater… you are correct. Sounds like they are an enemy to America. Unreal.

  93. #93
    On February 26th, 2009 at 11:05 am, John Deaux said:

    On February 26th, 2009 at 10:59 am, jjmurphy said:
    the liberals have two years to raise the percentage of voters who are dependent on the federal government for their livelihood, and do not pay taxes, to well above 50%. Who do you think those deadbeats will side with?

    There’s the change that we need to make to the 22nd amendment. If more than 10% of your income is from the government, you are ineligible to vote.

  94. #94
    On February 26th, 2009 at 11:08 am, jjmurphy said:

    If more than 10% of your income is from the government, you are ineligible to vote.

    John Deaux – Good idea!

  95. #95
    On February 26th, 2009 at 11:09 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Of course illegal aliens vote. That was how Loretta Sanchez defeated Bob Dornan for his House seat in 1996. It was pretty flagrant, really, but for some reason the Reno DoJ didn’t see the need to investigate.

  96. #96
    On February 26th, 2009 at 11:10 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    John Deaux said:

    There’s the change that we need to make to the 22nd amendment. If more than 10% of your income is from the government, you are ineligible to vote.

    I agree. That situation sounds precisely like a conflict of interest to me. Good call.

  97. #97
    On February 26th, 2009 at 11:10 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    If more than 10% of your income is from the government, you are ineligible to vote.

    Um, when I worked for Ronald Reagan back in the 1980s, 100% of my income was from the US Government.

  98. #98
    On February 26th, 2009 at 11:11 am, zeroangel said:

    10%? I say if ANY ammount is from the government.

    If you don’t pay taxes you shouldn’t vote.

    Furthermore, there should be some form of basic test of intelligence. Granted, it would be hard to implement such a test but I think it should be something like a GED equivalency at the very least.

  99. #99
    On February 26th, 2009 at 11:12 am, zeroangel said:

    Ed:

    Right of course, government salaries are to be considered salary. We are obviously talking about handouts. Of course you know that though.

  100. #100
    On February 26th, 2009 at 11:17 am, William Teach said:

    “She was not happy about it because it’s inconsistent with her position, and the president’s position on these matters,” said the official,

    So, she is not happy with upholding federal law?

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