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		<title>By: Democrat = Socialist</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/27/the-self-hating-minority-smear/comment-page-2/#comment-762008</link>
		<dc:creator>Democrat = Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What Do You Get When You Mix Olbermann &amp; Garofalo?  Mental Gonorrhea...&lt;/strong&gt;

&#8220;Our country is founded on a sham: our forefathers were slave-owning rich white guys who wanted it their way. So when I see the American flag, I go, &#8216;Oh my God, you&#8217;re insulting me.&#8217; That you can have a gay parade on Christopher...</description>
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<p>&#8220;Our country is founded on a sham: our forefathers were slave-owning rich white guys who wanted it their way. So when I see the American flag, I go, &#8216;Oh my God, you&#8217;re insulting me.&#8217; That you can have a gay parade on Christopher&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wighttrasch</title>
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		<dc:creator>wighttrasch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That they actually have friends who are similar&lt;/blockquote&gt;

actually, I think their problem is they don&#039;t have any friends. Period.</description>
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<p>actually, I think their problem is they don&#8217;t have any friends. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: cabrerski</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/27/the-self-hating-minority-smear/comment-page-2/#comment-636474</link>
		<dc:creator>cabrerski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On March 1st, 2009 at 2:37 pm, happyscrapper said: 
On the other hand, charities can be bad too, unless carefully vetted before you donate to them. Some have huge salaries going to their top execs. even though they claim exempt status.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In cabrerski&#039;s ideal world:

1.  Charities would have to state their cause.
2.  After the first year of setup, prove at least 2/3 of all income is directly utilized for that cause.  
3.  The other third is the maximum for all salaries and administrative costs.  If you operate beyond these limits, then it appears you are not charitable, but making money off of others&#039; grief and lose your tax-exempt status.
4.  Track the people in the charity world to ensure the scam artists do not profit.
5.  Special listing/recognition for the 75/25 and 90/10 levels.  Low overheads should encourage people to participate even more.
6.  Eliminate clearing house charities like the United Way.  They are a drain on the total resources and do nothing for actual causes.  Many of the corruption incidents do not make it to the MSM.
7.  All political donations to PACs, political parties, campaigns, etc. lose their tax-exempt status.  This will be the hardest to do (asking Congress to remove itself from suckling) but probably the most critical.  This would be one good way to reduce the monies that continue to plague our political system.

No details, just ideas...hey, a guy can dream can&#039;t he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On March 1st, 2009 at 2:37 pm, happyscrapper said:<br />
On the other hand, charities can be bad too, unless carefully vetted before you donate to them. Some have huge salaries going to their top execs. even though they claim exempt status.</p></blockquote>
<p>In cabrerski&#8217;s ideal world:</p>
<p>1.  Charities would have to state their cause.<br />
2.  After the first year of setup, prove at least 2/3 of all income is directly utilized for that cause.<br />
3.  The other third is the maximum for all salaries and administrative costs.  If you operate beyond these limits, then it appears you are not charitable, but making money off of others&#8217; grief and lose your tax-exempt status.<br />
4.  Track the people in the charity world to ensure the scam artists do not profit.<br />
5.  Special listing/recognition for the 75/25 and 90/10 levels.  Low overheads should encourage people to participate even more.<br />
6.  Eliminate clearing house charities like the United Way.  They are a drain on the total resources and do nothing for actual causes.  Many of the corruption incidents do not make it to the MSM.<br />
7.  All political donations to PACs, political parties, campaigns, etc. lose their tax-exempt status.  This will be the hardest to do (asking Congress to remove itself from suckling) but probably the most critical.  This would be one good way to reduce the monies that continue to plague our political system.</p>
<p>No details, just ideas&#8230;hey, a guy can dream can&#8217;t he?</p>
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		<title>By: cabrerski</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/27/the-self-hating-minority-smear/comment-page-2/#comment-636383</link>
		<dc:creator>cabrerski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;scrapper,

Go right ahead and quote me.  Nice to have peeps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;scrapper,</p>
<p>Go right ahead and quote me.  Nice to have peeps.</p>
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		<title>By: happyscrapper</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/27/the-self-hating-minority-smear/comment-page-2/#comment-636377</link>
		<dc:creator>happyscrapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On March 1st, 2009 at 2:25 pm, usa_usa said: 
And how does government decide who can or can’t help themselves ? You fill out some kind of 1099-MOOCH form ? I think the charity is best done by churches and not government.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You have a good point.  Some of the welfare programs have worked fairly well, but they can be misused.  Food stamps, for instance (Cigarettes, whiskey and corn chips instead of baby food).  On the other hand, charities can be bad too, unless carefully vetted before you donate to them.  Some have huge salaries going to their top execs. even though they claim exempt status.  There is so much corruption these days, it is truly frightening.  That&#039;s what happens when people do their darndest to take God out of the country.  Evil moves in to fill the void. I do think though, that it would be just as hard to decide who can or can&#039;t help themselves if it was all left up to charities.  What would be the criteria and who would make those decisions?  I suppose any system would be better than Big Brother Government!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On March 1st, 2009 at 2:25 pm, usa_usa said:<br />
And how does government decide who can or can’t help themselves ? You fill out some kind of 1099-MOOCH form ? I think the charity is best done by churches and not government.</p></blockquote>
<p>You have a good point.  Some of the welfare programs have worked fairly well, but they can be misused.  Food stamps, for instance (Cigarettes, whiskey and corn chips instead of baby food).  On the other hand, charities can be bad too, unless carefully vetted before you donate to them.  Some have huge salaries going to their top execs. even though they claim exempt status.  There is so much corruption these days, it is truly frightening.  That&#8217;s what happens when people do their darndest to take God out of the country.  Evil moves in to fill the void. I do think though, that it would be just as hard to decide who can or can&#8217;t help themselves if it was all left up to charities.  What would be the criteria and who would make those decisions?  I suppose any system would be better than Big Brother Government!</p>
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		<title>By: usa_usa</title>
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		<dc:creator>usa_usa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

We believe that the unfortunate people who can’t help themselves should be helped
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And how does government decide who can or can&#039;t help themselves ? You fill out some kind of 1099-MOOCH form ? I think the charity is best done by churches and not government.</description>
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<p>We believe that the unfortunate people who can’t help themselves should be helped
</p></blockquote>
<p>And how does government decide who can or can&#8217;t help themselves ? You fill out some kind of 1099-MOOCH form ? I think the charity is best done by churches and not government.</p>
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		<title>By: happyscrapper</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/27/the-self-hating-minority-smear/comment-page-2/#comment-636365</link>
		<dc:creator>happyscrapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On March 1st, 2009 at 1:27 pm, corona said: 
One more time for both for the deceivers and those who have been deceived:
The correct term is same-sex pseudomarriage.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Please explain your comment.  I am not getting it.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On March 1st, 2009 at 1:27 pm, corona said:<br />
One more time for both for the deceivers and those who have been deceived:<br />
The correct term is same-sex pseudomarriage.</p></blockquote>
<p>Please explain your comment.  I am not getting it.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: happyscrapper</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/27/the-self-hating-minority-smear/comment-page-2/#comment-636364</link>
		<dc:creator>happyscrapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We believe that the unfortunate people who CAN’T&lt;/blockquote&gt;oops, I meant, We believe that the unfortunate people who can&#039;t help themselves should be helped.  I must have deleted part of my sentence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We believe that the unfortunate people who CAN’T</p></blockquote>
<p>oops, I meant, We believe that the unfortunate people who can&#8217;t help themselves should be helped.  I must have deleted part of my sentence!</p>
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		<title>By: corona</title>
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		<dc:creator>corona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;One more time&lt;/em&gt; for both for the deceivers and those who have been deceived: 
 &lt;strong&gt;The correct term is same-sex pseudomarriage.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>One more time</em> for both for the deceivers and those who have been deceived:<br />
 <strong>The correct term is same-sex pseudomarriage.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: happyscrapper</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/27/the-self-hating-minority-smear/comment-page-2/#comment-636362</link>
		<dc:creator>happyscrapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some posts on this thread that I have copied and pasted into my Word program and I am keeping them.  I hope that RetFireman and Cabrerski don&#039;t mind.  They are worth keeping and pulling out often to send to everyone in my address book.  Don&#039;t worry, I will give you credit...or at least your username!  I am so proud to be a part of Michelle Malkin&#039;s team!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some posts on this thread that I have copied and pasted into my Word program and I am keeping them.  I hope that RetFireman and Cabrerski don&#8217;t mind.  They are worth keeping and pulling out often to send to everyone in my address book.  Don&#8217;t worry, I will give you credit&#8230;or at least your username!  I am so proud to be a part of Michelle Malkin&#8217;s team!</p>
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		<title>By: happyscrapper</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/27/the-self-hating-minority-smear/comment-page-2/#comment-636360</link>
		<dc:creator>happyscrapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On March 1st, 2009 at 9:59 am, cabrerski said: &lt;/blockquote&gt;Your points are so amazingly spot-on, I can&#039;t believe no one has articulated them in the Republican Party.  Conservatives come in all sizes, shapes and creeds.  We are black, white, asian, latino, etc. etc.  We are gay, lesbian, straight, Catholic, Jew, Protestant, muslim, buddhist, athiest, etc.  We are all those things.  What binds us together is a love of freedom, liberty and the ideal that we all have equal opportunities for success.  Small government, state&#039;s rights, power to the people!!  We believe in helping the unfortunate through charities, not through big government and high taxes on the wealthy.  We believe that the unfortunate people who CAN&#039;T.  Those who CAN earn a living, SHOULD earn a living.  We believe in those very core principles that the Republican platform had always espoused until the &quot;middle of the roaders&quot; like John McCain diluted the platform until it is no longer recognizable.  We believe that if you reach across the aisle to liberals, they will cut off your arm at the elbow and make you eat it.  Please, please, please, can we all agree that our party needs to follow the core principles and stop the infighting about those few things that we will NEVER agree on?  Some of you are so fanatical in your beliefs that you don&#039;t think ANY candidate who isn&#039;t a born-again Christian fundamentalist should be POTUS.  But as has been stated here, the POTUS is the leader of ALL America, not just the Christians.  (Of course, we all know that Obama is the leader of only blacks and poor, but that is another subject!)  Sorry for the rant, but these ideals need repeating over and over until our fellow conservatives GET IT!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On March 1st, 2009 at 9:59 am, cabrerski said: </p></blockquote>
<p>Your points are so amazingly spot-on, I can&#8217;t believe no one has articulated them in the Republican Party.  Conservatives come in all sizes, shapes and creeds.  We are black, white, asian, latino, etc. etc.  We are gay, lesbian, straight, Catholic, Jew, Protestant, muslim, buddhist, athiest, etc.  We are all those things.  What binds us together is a love of freedom, liberty and the ideal that we all have equal opportunities for success.  Small government, state&#8217;s rights, power to the people!!  We believe in helping the unfortunate through charities, not through big government and high taxes on the wealthy.  We believe that the unfortunate people who CAN&#8217;T.  Those who CAN earn a living, SHOULD earn a living.  We believe in those very core principles that the Republican platform had always espoused until the &#8220;middle of the roaders&#8221; like John McCain diluted the platform until it is no longer recognizable.  We believe that if you reach across the aisle to liberals, they will cut off your arm at the elbow and make you eat it.  Please, please, please, can we all agree that our party needs to follow the core principles and stop the infighting about those few things that we will NEVER agree on?  Some of you are so fanatical in your beliefs that you don&#8217;t think ANY candidate who isn&#8217;t a born-again Christian fundamentalist should be POTUS.  But as has been stated here, the POTUS is the leader of ALL America, not just the Christians.  (Of course, we all know that Obama is the leader of only blacks and poor, but that is another subject!)  Sorry for the rant, but these ideals need repeating over and over until our fellow conservatives GET IT!!</p>
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		<title>By: happyscrapper</title>
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		<dc:creator>happyscrapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On February 28th, 2009 at 3:06 pm, cabrerski said: 
On February 28th, 2009 at 2:49 pm, Thomas B. said:
Thank you, my brother…and can we get an “Amen” from the choir!?!

Well said, soldier!&lt;/blockquote&gt;Just poking my head into this thread for a few minutes before church and I want to add to the chorus...Amen, Amen, and AAAAAAMEN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On February 28th, 2009 at 3:06 pm, cabrerski said:<br />
On February 28th, 2009 at 2:49 pm, Thomas B. said:<br />
Thank you, my brother…and can we get an “Amen” from the choir!?!</p>
<p>Well said, soldier!</p></blockquote>
<p>Just poking my head into this thread for a few minutes before church and I want to add to the chorus&#8230;Amen, Amen, and AAAAAAMEN!</p>
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		<title>By: cabrerski</title>
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		<dc:creator>cabrerski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On February 28th, 2009 at 7:16 pm, usa_usa said: 
Ok guys. you win...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s not about winning the argument as opposed to understanding the goals.  As I stated earlier, conservatism is an idea of less government, strong national defense, etc.  However it is not an absolute.  Every thing about government is a compromise and here is where the problems begin among conservatives.

We all have our ideals based on our faith, experiences and hopes.  Within each one of us, they are very strong because it is what makes up who we are.  Just view the previous entries to see the passion.  When I see the writings or Right4Life, RetFireman, Undersiege and others, I see good people with strong convictions.

But not all the convictions are the same.  In order to achieve a viable and working government, there must be some form of compromise.  The issue then becomes what we are willing to compromise on.  If we dig our heels into the ground and refuse any compromise, then you might as well go out and form your own country with your own constitution.  

The United States Constitution itself was a compromise, not a divine document.  There must be some playing field we can agree on that will capture the minds and hearts of the majority of Americans in order to achieve an acceptable form of government.  And some aspects may cause us to hold our noses.  We must find that common ground to get the majority of our goals into action, otherwise we get very few of them.

Remember that this is government and not your Church.  Your faith is absolute whereas your dealings with others doesn&#039;t have to be.  In voting, we are not asking to change your beliefs or Church, just to help us find a way to govern this country of everyone.  Somewhere in every belief system, there are allowances for those who do not follow the faith.  If your belief is to avoid all those who do not agree with you, fine.  However, even churches subscibe to interfaith meetings and councils.

Now, more than ever, we need as many as we can in our conservative alliance.  So all that I ask is we try harder than ever to find that way to become the majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On February 28th, 2009 at 7:16 pm, usa_usa said:<br />
Ok guys. you win&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s not about winning the argument as opposed to understanding the goals.  As I stated earlier, conservatism is an idea of less government, strong national defense, etc.  However it is not an absolute.  Every thing about government is a compromise and here is where the problems begin among conservatives.</p>
<p>We all have our ideals based on our faith, experiences and hopes.  Within each one of us, they are very strong because it is what makes up who we are.  Just view the previous entries to see the passion.  When I see the writings or Right4Life, RetFireman, Undersiege and others, I see good people with strong convictions.</p>
<p>But not all the convictions are the same.  In order to achieve a viable and working government, there must be some form of compromise.  The issue then becomes what we are willing to compromise on.  If we dig our heels into the ground and refuse any compromise, then you might as well go out and form your own country with your own constitution.  </p>
<p>The United States Constitution itself was a compromise, not a divine document.  There must be some playing field we can agree on that will capture the minds and hearts of the majority of Americans in order to achieve an acceptable form of government.  And some aspects may cause us to hold our noses.  We must find that common ground to get the majority of our goals into action, otherwise we get very few of them.</p>
<p>Remember that this is government and not your Church.  Your faith is absolute whereas your dealings with others doesn&#8217;t have to be.  In voting, we are not asking to change your beliefs or Church, just to help us find a way to govern this country of everyone.  Somewhere in every belief system, there are allowances for those who do not follow the faith.  If your belief is to avoid all those who do not agree with you, fine.  However, even churches subscibe to interfaith meetings and councils.</p>
<p>Now, more than ever, we need as many as we can in our conservative alliance.  So all that I ask is we try harder than ever to find that way to become the majority.</p>
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		<title>By: wfcook</title>
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		<dc:creator>wfcook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many on the left are just self-hating Americans.</description>
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		<title>By: hadsil</title>
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		<dc:creator>hadsil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are the same people who claim any Conservative minority is a mere &quot;token&quot; then further call Conservatives racists because they lack diversity in make up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are the same people who claim any Conservative minority is a mere &#8220;token&#8221; then further call Conservatives racists because they lack diversity in make up.</p>
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