The Washington Post’s comical preemptive apology

By Michelle Malkin  •  February 28, 2009 09:12 AM

Remember the Washington Post’s ridiculous preemptive apology for a totally innocuous cartoon featuring an ape — an apology that the WaPo’s own media critic Howard Kurtz told me was “odd?”

Today, the paper printed a letter that castigated the editors for their comical crouch. The writer is dead-on: The decision is beyond odd. It’s cowardly.

The paper deserves to be publicly humiliated:

Saturday, February 28, 2009; Page A11

Regarding your Feb. 22 Editor’s Note on “Monkey Business,” Gene Weingarten’s Below the Beltway column of the same day regarding a survey on sexual attraction:

Oh, good grief. What has the world come to? Are we now forbidden from ever again publishing a cartoon or a humor piece involving a chimp, ape, rhesus monkey or any other primate?

And are we so afraid of Al Sharpton that preemptive apologies are necessary for the most innocent and benign cartoons and articles? Your cowardice is appalling.

– Roy W. Barnes
Nokesville

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  1. #1
    On February 28th, 2009 at 9:16 am, zorro said:

    Just another death rattle of the once “free press”.

    MSM, RIP.

  2. #2
    On February 28th, 2009 at 9:16 am, Kent18 said:

    Your cowardice is appalling

    … but predictable, nonetheless.

  3. #3
    On February 28th, 2009 at 9:17 am, happyscrapper said:

    Wow…I couldn’t have said it better!

  4. #4
    On February 28th, 2009 at 9:21 am, happyscrapper said:

    Sorry to go off topic, but for those of you who have not been over to the “minority self-hating smear” thread this a.m., I just read the comments and have left a message for usa_usa. Just in case that thread is done, I want usa_usa to please hop over there and read what I said. I need an answer and I am waiting. Thank you.

  5. #5
    On February 28th, 2009 at 9:24 am, twofoot said:

    Appalling yes. But also, par for the course. This is what political correctness has brought us. People and organizations are so scared to say anything.

    You want to end crap like this? Then kill political correctness.

  6. #6
    On February 28th, 2009 at 9:33 am, willie peter said:

    Cowardice seems to be a signature trait of Liberals.

    Right alongside butt ugly women and light in the loafers beta males.

  7. #7
    On February 28th, 2009 at 9:37 am, happyscrapper said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 9:33 am, willie peter said:
    Cowardice seems to be a signature trait of Liberals.

    Right alongside butt ugly women and light in the loafers beta males

    Not a good post, willie. Knock it off.

  8. #8
    On February 28th, 2009 at 9:38 am, b-cat said:
  9. #9
    On February 28th, 2009 at 9:39 am, happyscrapper said:

    I have been on two threads this a.m. and both of them had comments that made me think I was over at kos! Common folks, stay classy. We are better then this. Are you purposely trying to give fodder to the “enemy”? Because that is what you do when you say hateful things.

  10. #10
    On February 28th, 2009 at 9:41 am, happyscrapper said:

    I was talking to willie there…not the rest of you! Sorry if it sounded that way!

  11. #11
    On February 28th, 2009 at 9:43 am, happyscrapper said:

    Common= come on. Yikes. Maybe that was a freudian slip? As in Obama’s comment that we were the “common” folks and he was “prominent”? Yes, he really said that.

  12. #12
    On February 28th, 2009 at 10:16 am, Uplander said:

    I love living in the Post Racial American Democrat Republic, don’t You?

  13. #13
    On February 28th, 2009 at 10:19 am, verogolfer said:

    Yes, the WashPo’s cowardice was appalling but I watched Michelle on C-Span today. Her political courage and common sense were shining for all to see. What a contrast with the Post. Glad she’s on our side…er, rather we’re on HER side.

  14. #14
    On February 28th, 2009 at 10:24 am, shooter said:

    With the crazed Charlie chimp thing and the cartoon timing I never once thought of it as racist or having anything to do with obama…
    BUT NOW? Every time I see a chimp or a cartoon with any primate I will instantly see/think about BHO and the chimp.

    Thanks Sharpton, obama and all of your race card playing pals, you’ve set post racial America back years…again.
    That was your objective, right? More reparation planning? G-D America? Wealth Redistribution? Americans are COWARDS?
    hopeychangey for sure.

  15. #15
    On February 28th, 2009 at 10:25 am, DBNinKY said:

    Your cowardice is appalling.

    Agreed. But what’s equally appalling was the ridiculous spin Tim Fernholz tried to put on Obama’s massive spending bill this morning on C-Span, following your visit.

  16. #16
    On February 28th, 2009 at 10:25 am, cabrerski said:

    Does anyone have a list of the “banned” PC words and phrases? Or does it change on an hourly basis according to who has the ear of the MSM? Let me see:

    Ape = the new “A” bomb

    So now we can have no references to monkeys, chimps, gorillas, baboons, etc. without someone like Sharpton screaming.

    Hmmm…guess we will have to immediately stop all research into primate habits. Who would have ever thought that Dian Fossey’s work (Gorillas in the Mist) was so racist?

    I guess this is logical since we are not able to use the phrase “black hole” (remember Dallas City Council) anymore.

    That sound you just heard is my head exploding…

  17. #17
    On February 28th, 2009 at 10:31 am, sambo said:

    Al Sharpton asking anyone for an apology is funnier than a barrel full of monkeys!

  18. #18
    On February 28th, 2009 at 10:33 am, sambo said:

    cabrerski said:
    Or does it change on an hourly basis according to who has the ear of the MSM?

    Your half right…it matters just as much on who says them.

  19. #19
    On February 28th, 2009 at 10:42 am, happyscrapper said:

    That picture of Sharpton does not help his cause any. He looks suspiciously like the subject of the cartoon.

    I feel the need to clarify my statements in posts 7 and 9. I was not trying to infer we should use censorship in our comments! Actually, that would be PC gone amok which is exactly the subject of this thread! I was merely suggesting that lumping a whole group of people into one big “barrel” and calling them all hateful names is not cool. For instance: “Liberal women are all butt ugly”. Now, we can call one specific liberal woman “butt ugly” as long as we know for sure she really is! Like Helen Thomas. Just wanted to clarify what I meant.

  20. #20
    On February 28th, 2009 at 10:47 am, DougHagin said:

    America has become so hypersensitive, so whiny, and so obsessed with the notion that the most important human right is the right not to be offended, that we are now apolgizing BEFORE anyone is even ofended!

    You can blame those who constantly beat on their drums(that will likely OFFEND someone)of discontent. You can blame those who seemingly are only happy when they feel offended. You can blame those who think there is a right not to have their felings hurt. But, the bulk of the blame lies with the spineless wimps who cower every time some whiner yells “offense” “racisim”, etc. How nice it would be, just once, to hear someone, or network, or corporation, of newspaper say, “If anyone was offended, too bad! Get over it!”

    Never mind if the imagined offense is or will be real. Never mind if it will be cooked up by some race pimp to further THEIR agenda. Never mind if the offended party should be rightly offended. Never mind any of that. Just apologize in case anyone might, one day, think that they might, be offended!

  21. #21
    On February 28th, 2009 at 10:52 am, Tazed and Confused said:

    No monkeying around here… huh?

  22. #22
    On February 28th, 2009 at 10:57 am, DougHagin said:

    Here is a word I just coined, at least I have not heard anyone else use it, APOLOGYPALOOZA!

  23. #23
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:00 am, twofoot said:

    Al Sharpton asking anyone for an apology is funnier than a barrel full of monkeys!

    LMAO… I am stealing that one.

  24. #24
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:00 am, hatfield said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 9:37 am, happyscrapper, said,Not a good post, willie. Knock it off.

    You’re not a mod, you knock it off.

  25. #25
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:00 am, happyscrapper said:

    I suppose I was wrong to say “I got the monkey off my back” when I quit smoking? I truly apologize for any offense that I may have caused, back then, or in the future. And for those on this thread who are offended by my reference, I humbly beg your forgiveness. Have I missed anyone?

  26. #26
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:03 am, happyscrapper said:

    APOLOGYPALOOZA

    I give it a 10! It has a good beat and you can dance to it.

  27. #27
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:03 am, Dave Turson said:

    Gene Weingarten gives the inside dope on his “Monkey Business” column:

    I fear that the conjuring of racial stereotype was entirely the work of the apologizer, here. I don’t think that any reasonable reading of this column, or the headline, or the illustration, would find any racial implications at all, nor did I intend any. …
    Before publication, the column had been read and approved by many editors, two of whom are black. On the week before it was published, during the height of the news about the chimpanzee attack, the column (though not the illustration) was sent to editors at the 20-odd newspapers around the country that buy it through syndication. None of those editors complained or saw the need to apologize to their readers. …

    Washington City Paper found out the preemptive apologizer-in-chief is Executive Editor Marcus Brauchli. Brauchli explanation for the apology:

    [S]ome people in our newsroom thought the illustration and some language in the article was potentially problematic. We debated internally whether the illustration or the piece could be interpreted by anyone, even in a stretch, as racially insensitive. We concluded, regretfully, that such an interpretation might be made, and we wanted to let readers know that The Post neither intended nor tolerates the use of racial stereotypes.

  28. #28
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:03 am, twofoot said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:00 am, hatfield said:
    On February 28th, 2009 at 9:37 am, happyscrapper, said,Not a good post, willie. Knock it off.
    You’re not a mod, you knock it off.

    Wow, I didn’t realize you had to be a moderator to ask for a little common decency.

  29. #29
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:05 am, happyscrapper said:

    You’re not a mod, you knock it off.

    Sorry…it was just a suggestion to stay classy. And, what is a “mod”?

  30. #30
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:05 am, DougHagin said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:00 am, happyscrapper said:

    Your apology offended me!I have apologyitis, and am offended by apologies, so, I demand immediate reparations from you, since apologies offend me, just give me some cash!

  31. #31
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:06 am, wayiwalk said:

    What really comes to mind with this is how well is serves to distract the population from the real issues that are going on.

  32. #32
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:07 am, happyscrapper said:

    Never mind my last question…twofoot answered it. Thanks for your support twofoot.

  33. #33
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:07 am, DougHagin said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:03 am, happyscrapper said:

    Thanks! I try!

  34. #34
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:07 am, WarTip said:

    Being politically correct, being forced to fund social programs such as Raza, Acorn, Planned Parenthood and others with MY money and against my rights of conscience, B Hussein Obama in office already promising to spend over 11 trillion dollars more of American taxpayer money. It’s like 1933 mixed with Carter’s 70s and the books 1984 and Animal Farm all brought to life at once but worse.

    I refuse to apologize for being a red-blooded, patriotic, gun-toting, Bible thumping Southerner who also happens to appreciate a good joke, even at my expense. (and being a hillbilly I do get a bunch of them as we are mostly white and Southern and conservative) If others want to jump up on the band wagon and scream out to the world how sorry they are, so be it … but they need to remember too that when everyone jumps on the bandwagon, sooner or later there will not be anyone left to push it and it will inevitably stop and sink in its own ruts … much like what is happening with our country now.

  35. #35
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:07 am, b-cat said:
  36. #36
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:09 am, happyscrapper said:

    Oh, and Hatfield, if I was the moderator, I would have deleted that comment about liberal women. It is one of those comments that kos loves to use to show how nasty we conservatives are.

  37. #37
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:11 am, happyscrapper said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:05 am, DougHagin said:

    Ha! Good one!

  38. #38
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:12 am, DougHagin said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:11 am, happyscrapper said:

    Just trying to be, ya know, “sensitive” Gosh, Liberals make it so easy to poke fun.

  39. #39
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:12 am, txvet2 said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:09 am, happyscrapper said:

    Oh, and Hatfield, if I was the moderator, I would have deleted that comment about liberal women. It is one of those comments that kos loves to use to show how nasty we conservatives are.

    Michelle is more than competent to manage her own website. If you’re offended, go elsewhere. Screw the Kos.

  40. #40
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:15 am, jsr said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 10:47 am, DougHagin said:

    As an official spokesperson for HOPe (Hypersensitive Offended People) I would like to say we find your comments rude, insensitive and offensive and would like an immediate retraction. As members of HOPe we work to prevent this type characterization of whiners and feel it would be in the unfair interests of all to cease these hurtful attacks. In the future please submit your comments for review to the sensitivity committee to avoid hurting our feelings.

    Sincerely
    HOPe
    Hypersensitive Offended People

  41. #41
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:16 am, sambo said:

    We’ve all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare…but can they produce a budget?
    Should I aopologise now or wait for Al?

  42. #42
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:17 am, happyscrapper said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:06 am, wayiwalk said:
    What really comes to mind with this is how well is serves to distract the population from the real issues that are going on.

    Oh, you mean like the fact that this administration is destroying our capitalist, free enterprise system right before our helpless eyes and we will never be the same? They are masters of this kind of trickery. Just divert the attention of the masses to some trivial,but overblown issue and they will forget they are being royally screwed! You are right on target there! Of course, the majority of the population isn’t paying any attention to any of it. Maybe it would help to imbed our message into some of their video games. Oh wait…liberals beat us to it.

  43. #43
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:19 am, txvet2 said:

    Washington City Paper found out the preemptive apologizer-in-chief is Executive Editor Marcus Brauchli. Brauchli explanation for the apology:

    [S]ome people in our newsroom thought the illustration and some language in the article was potentially problematic. We debated internally whether the illustration or the piece could be interpreted by anyone, even in a stretch, as racially insensitive. We concluded, regretfully, that such an interpretation might be made, and we wanted to let readers know that The Post neither intended nor tolerates the use of racial stereotypes.

    This was supposed to improve things? I wonder how many editorial meetings they had when one of their writers was comparing Bush to a monkey?

  44. #44
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:19 am, happyscrapper said:

    WarTip said: It’s like 1933 mixed with Carter’s 70s and the books 1984 and Animal Farm all brought to life at once but worse.

    I loved your analogy!!

  45. #45
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:20 am, happyscrapper said:

    and being a hillbilly I do get a bunch of them as we are mostly white and Southern and conservative

    I totally understand. I live in Minnesota.

  46. #46
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:22 am, happyscrapper said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:07 am, b-cat said:
    And, what is a “mod”?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod_(lifestyle)

    Thanks for the reference. There are alot of definitions for mod to choose from. I think I choose “Norwegian rock band”.

  47. #47
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:25 am, happyscrapper said:

    Michelle is more than competent to manage her own website. If you’re offended, go elsewhere. Screw the Kos.

    Wow, I sure am generating some nastiness here, aren’t I. Really, it was just a suggestion to stay classy. But if I offended YOU, I humbly bow before you in abject agologyism.

  48. #48
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:29 am, torabora said:

    This thread is turning into a tar baby.

    I can still say that, can’t I?

  49. #49
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:31 am, cabrerski said:

    The other day, I prayed to God that I would not offend anyone. Then I found out that I offended some by praying to God.

  50. #50
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:31 am, happyscrapper said:

    agologyism…look it up in the dictionary. Or, you can accept my apology for misspelling apologyism. Whatever.

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:29 am, torabora said:
    This thread is turning into a tar baby.

    I can still say that, can’t I?

    No you can’t.

  51. #51
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:32 am, happyscrapper said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:31 am, cabrerski said:
    The other day, I prayed to God that I would not offend anyone. Then I found out that I offended some by praying to God.

    O.K. THAT was the post of the week! Can I use it?

  52. #52
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:33 am, b-cat said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:25 am, happyscrapper said:

    I think txvet2 was taking your side.

    As for mod, I’m kinda the early Who/80′s Jam guy.

  53. #53
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:37 am, cabrerski said:

    ‘scrapper –

    Be my guest.

  54. #54
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:39 am, DougHagin said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:12 am, txvet2 said: Screw the Kos.

    My GOd, that is a mental image that will haunt me!

  55. #55
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:44 am, chicagojedi said:

    When are these people going to grow some cajones and not back down? Don’t they realize the only way to make them stop is just ignore their opportunistic parasitism.

  56. #56
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:44 am, sambo said:

    DougHagin said:

    txvet2 said: Screw the Kos.
    My GOd, that is a mental image that will haunt me!

    I guess your staying away from the Garafalo thread tx.

  57. #57
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:50 am, DBNinKY said:

    Very interesting: Ron Paul’s son, Dr. Rand Paul, may take Sen. Bunning’s place in the next KY primary.

    I hope Senator Bunning seeks a third term (IMHO, it’s his seat to lose), but Rand would not be a bad second choice; he’s not his father.

  58. #58
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:51 am, happyscrapper said:

    I think txvet2 was taking your side.

    It didn’t sound like it. I read it again. txvet2 said, “Michelle is more than competent to manage her own website. If you’re offended, go elsewhere. Screw the Kos.” Sounded like I was being soundly scolded. Which is fine, really. I agree, Michelle is competent to manage her own website. I guess that invitation for me to go elsewhere kind of sounded like txvet2 was not taking my side. Again, that’s o.k. I woudn’t want to offend txvet2 by being offended.

  59. #59
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:52 am, happyscrapper said:

    I am sorry I have turned this thread into monkey poop by suggesting we stay classy. I really am sorry. Oooops, there I go again.

  60. #60
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:53 am, John Deaux said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:25 am, happyscrapper said:
    But if I offended YOU, I humbly bow before you in abject agologyism.

    Sure. Apologize. That’s just what they want you to do.

    All Happy was doing was asking that we not post things that confirm the lefties’ negative opinions of conservatism. They paint us as intolerant, insensitive bigots and then someone posts “light in the loafers.” They will grab this and run with it. On the other hand, by self censoring ourselves, we give in to the PC crap. Willie probably meant no ill will by his comment, but if the left has taught us anything, it’s that perceptions are more important than substance.

  61. #61
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:54 am, nbarry said:

    Anyone who can go through life without offending somebody else needs psychiatric help.

  62. #62
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:57 am, sambo said:

    Remember the Washington Post’s ridiculous preemptive apology for a totally innocuous cartoon featuring an ape — an apology that the WaPo’s own media critic Howard Kurtz told me was “odd?”

    If Al was right about this cartoon, shouldn’t it have been PETA asking for the apolopy?

  63. #63
    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:59 am, sambo said:

    John Deaux said:
    On the other hand, by self censoring ourselves, we give in to the PC crap.

    well said!

  64. #64
    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:07 pm, txvet2 said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:59 am, sambo said:

    John Deaux said:
    On the other hand, by self censoring ourselves, we give in to the PC crap.

    well said!

    Unfortunately, it was contradicted by the rest of the post.

  65. #65
    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:07 pm, txvet2 said:

    There is a big difference between PC gone amok and getting totally out of hand…and trying to be a bit classier than the liberals. No censorship is called for. Just a bit of “class”. SORRY if you misunderstood where I was coming from.

  66. #66
    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm, txvet2 said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:51 am, happyscrapper said:

    You’re right. I wasn’t taking your side. And I wasn’t offended, just irritated by your rather condescending tone. Go start your own website, and if anybody actually shows up, you can censor them to your heart’s content. As far as this site is concerned, it is up to the hostess to determine what her standards will be. You have the option of accepting them, whining about them, or going elsewhere. The first and third options are perfectly acceptable to pretty much everyone else here. The second will always draw some reaction from others, usually negative.

  67. #67
    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:16 pm, shooter said:

    shouldn’t it have been PETA asking for the apolopy? (apology)

    They did,
    and got a law passed that doesn’t help anything.
    No interstate commerce of primates! Yipee!

  68. #68
    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:16 pm, sambo said:

    txvet2 said:
    Unfortunately, it was contradicted by the rest of the post.

    “perceptions are more important than substance”. Perceptions are not reality. I will not fall in line!

  69. #69
    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:20 pm, happyscrapper said:

    txvet2…Point taken. However, I think that a little bit of “self-censorship” occasionally wouldn’t hurt anyone. One of the huge problems in this Country today is the complete absence of civil discourse. If that sounds condescending, then again, I am sorry. But you wouldn’t want me to censor my condescention, would you?

    You have the option of accepting them, whining about them, or going elsewhere.

    So, I guess expressing MY opinion is called whining? So be it. I should have censored that post. Michelle should delete it.

  70. #70
    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:24 pm, txvet2 said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, happyscrapper said:

    There is a big difference between PC gone amok and getting totally out of hand…and trying to be a bit classier than the liberals. No censorship is called for. Just a bit of “class”. SORRY if you misunderstood where I was coming from.

    The best way to promote “class” is to embody it, not trying to hector it from others. As I said before, you just come off as condescending, although I’m sure you didn’t mean it that way. As for me, the last thing I dreamed before I woke up this morning is that I went all in on trip 7′s and the other guy turned up Aces full. Put me off my feed.

  71. #71
    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm, happyscrapper said:

    By the way, I have heard others on other threads admonishing someone for saying something way out of line. And no one criticised them for doing so. But for some reason, txvet thinks that my opinion was uncalled for and I should just buzz off and set up my own website. Well, I feel really “picked on” and I am going to take my toys and go home.

  72. #72
    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm, txvet2 said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:52 am, happyscrapper said:

    I am sorry I have turned this thread into monkey poop by suggesting we stay classy. I really am sorry. Oooops, there I go again.

    Don’t apologize, Mister, it’s a sign of weakness.

    Duke Wayne, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon.

  73. #73
    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm, sambo said:

    I know what you’re saying HS. But for far to long the liberals use the same methods that they condeam just as terrorist claim for the children and then strap a bomb on them. Its got to end!

  74. #74
    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, happyscrapper said:
    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:24 pm, txvet2 said:
    The best way to promote “class” is to embody it, not trying to hector it from others. As I said before, you just come off as condescending, although I’m sure you didn’t mean it that way. As for me, the last thing I dreamed before I woke up this morning is that I went all in on trip 7’s and the other guy turned up Aces full. Put me off my feed.

    Well said, and I agree. Can we be friends again?

  75. #75
    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:33 pm, txvet2 said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, happyscrapper said:

    We were never enemies. Just small points of disagreement – nuances, if you will.

  76. #76
    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:48 pm, happyscrapper said:

    TXVET2…It is interesting that you should mention nuances. Nuances in writing are almost impossible to convey. I think that is one of the reasons why there are so many misunderstandings. So much of people’s communication today is done by e-mail, not in person. Nuance is lost. I have sent and also received a few e-mails that were taken completely wrong and sounded totally opposite of the way they were meant! When you can’t see a person’s face, that silly smirk that tells you they are pulling your chain, etc. it is easy to get angry. Although I love commenting here, I do sometimes write things with my tongue firmly in cheek, but no one can see that. My dad was a great kidder. He would tease me mercilessly, but always with that twinkle in his eye so I knew it was teasing. Anyway, I will try not to come across so condescending…because I know that I do at times!

  77. #77
    On February 28th, 2009 at 1:15 pm, rightisright said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:29 am, torabora said:

    This thread is turning into a tar baby.

    I can still say that, can’t I?

    You just did and good for you.

  78. #78
    On February 28th, 2009 at 1:36 pm, happyscrapper said:

    What is a tar baby?

  79. #79
    On February 28th, 2009 at 1:44 pm, Dave Turson said:

    Tar baby defined. But you could always strike back at txvet2 by saying he is “tarred with the same brush.”

  80. #80
    On February 28th, 2009 at 1:45 pm, WarTip said:

    A tar baby was used by Brer Bear to trap Brer Rabbit in an old classic been outlawed because of negative portrayals of such classic characters as these and Uncle Rhemus. You may remember the song Zippity Doo Da? Porn is fine but Uncle Rhemus singing “Oh what a wonderful day” is baaaaaaaaaaad! Rather like Mark Twain being so detrimental for our school children while they are so busy learning “Why Johnny Has two Daddies” instead of learning any basic educational skills.

  81. #81
    On February 28th, 2009 at 1:46 pm, WarTip said:

    Ummm, that should have been “That has been outlawed” … need coffee.

  82. #82
    On February 28th, 2009 at 2:15 pm, happyscrapper said:

    So, if tar baby is racist, then using the term “tar and feathers” is also? How about just “feathers”? Oh wait…Native Americans would go on the warpath over that! Ooops…I am digging a deeper grave for myself! Apologies to all the Zombies out there for that “grave” reference. I’d better quit while I still have my dignity.

  83. #83
    On February 28th, 2009 at 2:26 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    The Dallas Zoo used to have a billboard advertisement with a white baby as a “little monkey”.

    Several years ago, The Honorable Despicable Royce West, misused his position as a Texas State Senator to influence Southwest Airlines to fire an employee over a perceived racial insult. Read about it here and here.

    It’s typical hypocrisy, from the black shakedown artist camp.

    Unless we stand up as a united people – all Americans together – and put an end to this nonsense, the race baiters and political correctness movement will be our death.

  84. #84
    On February 28th, 2009 at 2:47 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 2:26 pm, Jet Jaguar

    OMG! I read the news accounts of that poor man! I have no doubt that the injustice of the episode ate away at him and caused his early death. I worked at a company with the same “broom up your butt” PC creepiness that went way beyond anything reasonable. It was hard, but I managed to stay there for 4 years! I was well known for speaking my mind and getting “lectured” for it. But I ended up retiring on my own, not getting fired. Miracles do happen. I am just saying that the employee at the airlines could have easily been me.

  85. #85
    On February 28th, 2009 at 2:52 pm, nbarry said:

    When it comes to apologies, nobody tops the late, great Mr. B.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFVFkVyQGNQ

  86. #86
    On February 28th, 2009 at 3:00 pm, bjc said:

    *This is why many refer to the NCAACP as the NAAPC(political correctness); They are indeed doing so much of a disservice to the black folks; All that time and effort spent in such a counterproductive way makes it that much more difficult for those that need a hand up to actually have any chance to make a generational change.
    *Same goes for hate crimes legislation; What absolute moronic stupidity that is in creating disunity amoung the populace.

  87. #87
    On February 28th, 2009 at 3:13 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 2:52 pm, nbarry said:
    When it comes to apologies, nobody tops the late, great Mr. B.

    Thank you for posting that. It took me back to a far far happier time and for a few minutes I forgot all the crap. Billy Eckstein was one of a kind. I have a lot of old 45′s with his name on them!

  88. #88
    On February 28th, 2009 at 3:35 pm, RetFireman said:

    So…what am I supposed to do about my youngest daughter? She received a “sock monkey” for Christmas this year. Should I enroll her forthwith into sensitivity classes? After all…we wouldn’t want her to offend someone’s delicate sensibilities, now should we?

  89. #89
    On February 28th, 2009 at 3:51 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 3:35 pm, RetFireman said:

    You can try enrolling your daughter, but the classes are full to capacity until the year 2014.

  90. #90
    On February 28th, 2009 at 3:52 pm, graysonret said:

    If you don’t want to wait to see how it will be in a few years, regarding PC speech, just hop on over to England or read their newspapers to find out. You can also check out: http://pcwatch.blogspot.com/

    It gets worse, before it gets better.

  91. #91
    On February 28th, 2009 at 4:06 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Well, speaking for myself, I have never been very PC and I don’t intend to start now. Civil, yes…PC, no!! And they can just try to shame and intimidate me into shutting up. My husband couldn’t do it and neither will anyone else.

  92. #92
    On February 28th, 2009 at 4:36 pm, RetFireman said:

    I tried to be P.C., back in college. That was when the term had first been coined and I was still trying to get into…I mean…impress the girls. This was, of course, back in 86/87.

    It got to the point where I could not eat anything, drink anything, go anywhere, say anything identify anything without being corrected or pissing off someone who found their delicate sensibilities being crushed before their very eyes. By 1989, I had already seen that it was futile to try to be P.C., that it was stripping me from every single one of my personal freedoms and that there was not a single woman on the face of this planet that was worth someone telling me what to think, say, feel, eat etc. It was at that point, when I was trying to figure out just what P.C. rule was keeping people from “hurting my feelings” i.e. ticking me off by telling me what to say, think, feel ad nauseum that I threw the entire thing out and went back to the very thing that makes this country strong…the Freedom of Speech.

    See, nowhere in the Constitution is it written that you are free from having you feelings hurt.

    I am with Clint Eastwood in what he said yesterday. There was a time when people had a sense of humor. When you could actually joke about someone’s heritage and it was a sign of endearment. When people were not so touchy and were not a bunch of sniveling whiners.

    Well this Pollack/Injun/Mick/Limey/Frog/Scott SOB has not been P.C. for many years, and no “re-education” camp, or theory or anything else will ever keep me from speaking my mind or saying what it is I want to say. I have tissues. If what I say to you hurts your feelings, I can let you blow it out your…

  93. #93
    On February 28th, 2009 at 4:56 pm, graysonret said:

    When people were not so touchy and were not a bunch of sniveling whiners.

    Complaining allows you to be in the spotlight. You get your 5 minutes of fame. The biggest reason though, it allows you to feel important and influential. That’s why PC gets worse every year and people “get offended” over even the most minor slight.

  94. #94
    On February 28th, 2009 at 5:11 pm, RetFireman said:

    You know, in a way, I wish every single Über-Lib would be allowed to sit on an ambulance, truck/engine or in a squad car for an entire week in a city such as New York, Chicago, Sacramento, L.A., San Francisco, or anywhere where the call volume for Fire/Rescue is over 50K a year and P.D./S.O has a very high crime/violence rate.

    I would just like them to see and experience just how much all of their “rules” and all of their P.C. garbage and Kumbaya crap means SQUAT in the real world, in that place where people are never supposed to see or experience something ever in their life, let alone have it shoved in their face over and over and over again, day after day after day.

    Would it change their beliefs? I doubt it. But let me tell you, to have been afforded the opportunity to have Garofolo, Olberman, Moore, and hell…even Der Fuhrer in my box with me or on my engine on certain nights, in certain parts of my First In…I would have definitely changed their lives and cut them down a few hundred feet off their high horses.

    Yeah, I did not mention putting them with a military unit. The only reason is I am referring to local stuff. Hopefully you guys know me well enough that I would never have even considered slighting anyone on the military, and hopefully the gist of what I mean is not lost on them.

  95. #95
    On February 28th, 2009 at 5:44 pm, Joy said:

    Okay, that is it!

    Any black person caught honking their horns should be arrested and tried for a hate-crime.

    Maybe we should demand that all black people remove the horns from their vehicles. After all, we white folks know what they’re inferring when they use their horns! /sarc

    I am SO sick of political correctness! GAH…

    And Holden wonders why we’re still so segregated and don’t like to talk about race?

  96. #96
    On February 28th, 2009 at 5:51 pm, Chief RZ said:

    Monkey Business. Wasn’t that the name of Gary Hart’s yacht?

  97. #97
    On February 28th, 2009 at 5:59 pm, John Deaux said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 12:07 pm, txvet2 said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 11:59 am, sambo said:

    John Deaux said:
    On the other hand, by self censoring ourselves, we give in to the PC crap.

    well said!

    Unfortunately, it was contradicted by the rest of the post.

    No, it wasn’t. I was explaining where Happy was coming from with her criticism and the ridiculous way they twist things around to their advantage.

    We’re seeing the effects of the PC movement now. at first, it was all about not saying anything offensive about a minority, now we’re not allowed to offer any criticism at all.

    How far would Don Rickles career have gone if he were starting out today?

  98. #98
    On February 28th, 2009 at 6:18 pm, RetFireman said:

    Just don’t confuse common decency and manners with being P.C.. There most definitely is a difference. Such as, just because we are not acting like the morons over on D.U. and using the “F” word every other word like we just invented it, or saying similar things does not mean we are being “Politically Correct”. It merely means we know how to act and talk civilized in polite company as well as the fact we all know how to respect our lovely and intelligent as well as very generous hostess.

  99. #99
    On February 28th, 2009 at 6:55 pm, Salt said:

    On February 28th, 2009 at 3:35 pm, RetFireman said:

    So…what am I supposed to do about my youngest daughter? She received a “sock monkey” for Christmas this year.

    Something tells me the hyper-sensitive PC folks would be more concerned that she celebrates Christmas.

  100. #100
    On February 28th, 2009 at 7:49 pm, reutersrutter said:

    Who besides me dislikes “Crappers”. Being old enough to have used a “Crapper” in the winter or anytime, it never made me, “Happy”. If I had the time It would give me great pleasure to give happycrapper a piece of my, uh, used crapper for her, or its collection!

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