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		<title>By: zeroangel</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/03/04/coming-to-a-city-bus-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-641333</link>
		<dc:creator>zeroangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;wighttrasch:&lt;/strong&gt;

Yes, I have stated as much (and been vilified for it) on this blog many times.</description>
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<p>Yes, I have stated as much (and been vilified for it) on this blog many times.</p>
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		<title>By: wighttrasch</title>
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		<dc:creator>wighttrasch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yahweh of the Old Testament isn’t far behind, but then, they are the same guy, aren’t they?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

so, are you an atheist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yahweh of the Old Testament isn’t far behind, but then, they are the same guy, aren’t they?</p></blockquote>
<p>so, are you an atheist?</p>
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		<title>By: zeroangel</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeroangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*not all religious types &lt;em&gt;are &lt;/em&gt;always 

Sorry, double negative above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*not all religious types <em>are </em>always </p>
<p>Sorry, double negative above.</p>
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		<title>By: zeroangel</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/03/04/coming-to-a-city-bus-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-640868</link>
		<dc:creator>zeroangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The talk about atheists piqued my interests so I want to clarify some things:

&lt;strong&gt;see-dubya:&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Remember the atheist ads around Christmas? Those guys ought to go tell the ICNA people not to believe in a god. I’d like to see that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, by the very fact that they advertise they ARE telling Muslims (at least any that can read) what they think.

&lt;strong&gt;Englishqueen:&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Also - atheist groups in the UK have put ads on busses, should THEY be allowed if religion isn’t?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The young lady that started the atheist bus campaign in England was reacting to a religious ad for a website she saw on a bus. When she visited the website out of curiousity, she learned that the web masters apparently advocate the idea that she is going to hell. She reacted by motivating atheists to fund thier own ads that read &quot;There probably is no god, so quit worrying and enjoy your life&quot; or something to that effect.

This prompted at least one religious organization to try and get the ads removed claiming they violated some kind of &quot;truth in advertising law.&quot; Ironically, however, religous groups starting funded ads that said; in no uncertain terms, in constant to the atheist word &quot;probably&quot;; there is a God.

&lt;blockquote&gt;But, quite frankly, I’m to the point now where political correctness and liberal moral relativity have shat on the religious freedoms of Christians and the political views of conservatives, that I know this is inevitable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

…and yet, to admit to being an atheist is more or less political suicide, and we are the oppressors?

Now to be completely fair, I personally think the &quot;Christmas ads&quot; in question were unduly cruel and probably not the best face forward that atheists could present. However, again in the interest of fairness, not all religious types aren&#039;t always the nicest people once they find out you are an atheist.

Finally, any intellectually honest atheist must admit (as I myself do) that Islam is among the most disgusting of religions and Allah is a brutal beast (Yahweh of the Old Testament isn’t far behind, but then, they are the same guy, aren’t they?) I think, perhaps, that since so often the only atheists that are willing to admit to being atheists are liberal ones (draw your own conclusions here, it should be obvious), you end up with some kind of weird “PC atheist” that isn’t scared to condemn Christians but stops short of Muslims in the interest of “multiculturalism.” Again, however, this is not true of any intellectually honest atheist, indeed, many of the most famous; Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, and Sam Harris; all go to great lengths to condemn Muslims in their books. Sam Harris opens his “End of Faith” by condemning Muslims.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The talk about atheists piqued my interests so I want to clarify some things:</p>
<p><strong>see-dubya:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Remember the atheist ads around Christmas? Those guys ought to go tell the ICNA people not to believe in a god. I’d like to see that.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, by the very fact that they advertise they ARE telling Muslims (at least any that can read) what they think.</p>
<p><strong>Englishqueen:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Also &#8211; atheist groups in the UK have put ads on busses, should THEY be allowed if religion isn’t?</p></blockquote>
<p>The young lady that started the atheist bus campaign in England was reacting to a religious ad for a website she saw on a bus. When she visited the website out of curiousity, she learned that the web masters apparently advocate the idea that she is going to hell. She reacted by motivating atheists to fund thier own ads that read &#8220;There probably is no god, so quit worrying and enjoy your life&#8221; or something to that effect.</p>
<p>This prompted at least one religious organization to try and get the ads removed claiming they violated some kind of &#8220;truth in advertising law.&#8221; Ironically, however, religous groups starting funded ads that said; in no uncertain terms, in constant to the atheist word &#8220;probably&#8221;; there is a God.</p>
<blockquote><p>But, quite frankly, I’m to the point now where political correctness and liberal moral relativity have shat on the religious freedoms of Christians and the political views of conservatives, that I know this is inevitable.</p></blockquote>
<p>…and yet, to admit to being an atheist is more or less political suicide, and we are the oppressors?</p>
<p>Now to be completely fair, I personally think the &#8220;Christmas ads&#8221; in question were unduly cruel and probably not the best face forward that atheists could present. However, again in the interest of fairness, not all religious types aren&#8217;t always the nicest people once they find out you are an atheist.</p>
<p>Finally, any intellectually honest atheist must admit (as I myself do) that Islam is among the most disgusting of religions and Allah is a brutal beast (Yahweh of the Old Testament isn’t far behind, but then, they are the same guy, aren’t they?) I think, perhaps, that since so often the only atheists that are willing to admit to being atheists are liberal ones (draw your own conclusions here, it should be obvious), you end up with some kind of weird “PC atheist” that isn’t scared to condemn Christians but stops short of Muslims in the interest of “multiculturalism.” Again, however, this is not true of any intellectually honest atheist, indeed, many of the most famous; Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, and Sam Harris; all go to great lengths to condemn Muslims in their books. Sam Harris opens his “End of Faith” by condemning Muslims.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: starlightwoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>starlightwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first thought was:
Do they put it on the bus before they blow it up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first thought was:<br />
Do they put it on the bus before they blow it up?</p>
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		<title>By: Stillwaiting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stillwaiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On March 5th, 2009 at 2:16 pm, UrbanSpaceman said: &lt;/blockquote&gt;

As a Catholic I&#039;m down with the Holy Trinity!!!

And I agree that the Muslims and Jews have a flawed understanding of God.  But they are following the same God we do...they just (and I don&#039;t mean &quot;just&quot; because this is HUGE) don&#039;t understand how He wants to be followed.  The Muslims and Jews acknowledge the same prophets and teachings we do up until the time of Jesus.  That&#039;s when they went astray (and of course they think Christians went astray).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On March 5th, 2009 at 2:16 pm, UrbanSpaceman said: </p></blockquote>
<p>As a Catholic I&#8217;m down with the Holy Trinity!!!</p>
<p>And I agree that the Muslims and Jews have a flawed understanding of God.  But they are following the same God we do&#8230;they just (and I don&#8217;t mean &#8220;just&#8221; because this is HUGE) don&#8217;t understand how He wants to be followed.  The Muslims and Jews acknowledge the same prophets and teachings we do up until the time of Jesus.  That&#8217;s when they went astray (and of course they think Christians went astray).</p>
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		<title>By: John Lee Pedimore</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lee Pedimore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually saw one on a bus in San Francraphole the other day and I couldn&#039;t believe it.

JLP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually saw one on a bus in San Francraphole the other day and I couldn&#8217;t believe it.</p>
<p>JLP</p>
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		<title>By: UrbanSpaceman</title>
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		<dc:creator>UrbanSpaceman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stillwaiting - the Muslims are wrong in that case.  As we learn in the New Testament, God is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.  Jesus was the Son of God, not a prophet; hence His ability to die for all our sins and saving those who believe this--and in Him.

The Jews seem to have an incomplete picture of God as they believe His Son has not arrived yet--but I am not sure, so any Jew reading feel free to correct this.

The Muslims believe that Mohammed was given the ultimate word of God, but considering that it came hundreds of years after Jesus&#039;s resurrection, and the fact that the Koran (sp?) contradicts God&#039;s love in many cases, they are not worshiping the one true God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stillwaiting &#8211; the Muslims are wrong in that case.  As we learn in the New Testament, God is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.  Jesus was the Son of God, not a prophet; hence His ability to die for all our sins and saving those who believe this&#8211;and in Him.</p>
<p>The Jews seem to have an incomplete picture of God as they believe His Son has not arrived yet&#8211;but I am not sure, so any Jew reading feel free to correct this.</p>
<p>The Muslims believe that Mohammed was given the ultimate word of God, but considering that it came hundreds of years after Jesus&#8217;s resurrection, and the fact that the Koran (sp?) contradicts God&#8217;s love in many cases, they are not worshiping the one true God.</p>
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		<title>By: Tel-Chai Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tel-Chai Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;CAIR funds Islamic ads on buses...&lt;/strong&gt;

Zombietime reports on a Islam promotion drive being funded by CAIR and ICNA, putting ads on buses, first in Ft. Lauderdale and now in San Francisco...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>CAIR funds Islamic ads on buses&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Zombietime reports on a Islam promotion drive being funded by CAIR and ICNA, putting ads on buses, first in Ft. Lauderdale and now in San Francisco&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RTater</title>
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		<dc:creator>RTater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christians open fire on Muslims at prayer!

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/025109.php

One woman has died and 28 people have been injured in an attack on the Presbyterian Christian community in the village of Songo, in the district of Gujranwala, province of Punjab. The attack took place on the evening of March 2: at 8 p.m., a group of Muslim inhabitants opened fire on the faithful who had gathered in the church for prayer. The woman, named Shakeela, died on the spot, while other members of the faithful suffered injuries of various kinds while they were seeking to flee from the bullets or to protect the pastor. The attackers broke the windows of the church, destroyed the Bibles and the other prayer books, and removed the cross from the roof of the building. 

Put &lt;em&gt;that &lt;/em&gt;on your bus.  It would be too long, but you get the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christians open fire on Muslims at prayer!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/025109.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/025109.php</a></p>
<p>One woman has died and 28 people have been injured in an attack on the Presbyterian Christian community in the village of Songo, in the district of Gujranwala, province of Punjab. The attack took place on the evening of March 2: at 8 p.m., a group of Muslim inhabitants opened fire on the faithful who had gathered in the church for prayer. The woman, named Shakeela, died on the spot, while other members of the faithful suffered injuries of various kinds while they were seeking to flee from the bullets or to protect the pastor. The attackers broke the windows of the church, destroyed the Bibles and the other prayer books, and removed the cross from the roof of the building. </p>
<p>Put <em>that </em>on your bus.  It would be too long, but you get the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Stillwaiting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stillwaiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On March 5th, 2009 at 9:16 am, UrbanSpaceman said: &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I thought Muslims believed Allah is the same one God followed by Jews and Christians (and that Jesus was a prophet), but that the teachings of Mohammed was the ultimate word of God.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophets_of_Islam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On March 5th, 2009 at 9:16 am, UrbanSpaceman said: </p></blockquote>
<p>I thought Muslims believed Allah is the same one God followed by Jews and Christians (and that Jesus was a prophet), but that the teachings of Mohammed was the ultimate word of God.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophets_of_Islam" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophets_of_Islam</a></p>
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		<title>By: wighttrasch</title>
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		<dc:creator>wighttrasch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say go one further &amp; put up huge posters showing the stoning, hanging, beheading of homosexuals in Islamic-regime countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say go one further &amp; put up huge posters showing the stoning, hanging, beheading of homosexuals in Islamic-regime countries.</p>
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		<title>By: pueblo1032</title>
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		<dc:creator>pueblo1032</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon people, get with it!!! As we all know, THERE ARE MANY RELIGIONS IN THE WORLD, BUT ONLY ONE RELIGION OF PEACE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon people, get with it!!! As we all know, THERE ARE MANY RELIGIONS IN THE WORLD, BUT ONLY ONE RELIGION OF PEACE!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Flyoverman (#13)who says that the ads are allowed by of the First Amendment.  And I agree with sonofdy (#33, among others, that the ad is fine so long as other groups can do the same.

The issue we should have is the discrimination against Christianity in public fora, not that particular non-Christian religious or atheist messages are advertised.  (Note:  I&#039;m not defending crudely offensive ads for anyone, and prefer decent timing--so no &quot;God is dead&quot; ads at Christmas.)

I wish, though, that less radical Islamic organizations were sponsoring the ads.  They shouldn&#039;t get the audience that these ads will give them, and they distort Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Flyoverman (#13)who says that the ads are allowed by of the First Amendment.  And I agree with sonofdy (#33, among others, that the ad is fine so long as other groups can do the same.</p>
<p>The issue we should have is the discrimination against Christianity in public fora, not that particular non-Christian religious or atheist messages are advertised.  (Note:  I&#8217;m not defending crudely offensive ads for anyone, and prefer decent timing&#8211;so no &#8220;God is dead&#8221; ads at Christmas.)</p>
<p>I wish, though, that less radical Islamic organizations were sponsoring the ads.  They shouldn&#8217;t get the audience that these ads will give them, and they distort Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules Crittenden &#187; Clash Of Uncivilizations</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jules Crittenden &#187; Clash Of Uncivilizations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with an alternate ad campaign proposal. Somehow I don&#8217;t think SF will seize on [...]</description>
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