Tea Party on: Taxpayer revolts in Green Bay, Lafayette, Olathe, and Harrisburg; Plus: Live from Fullerton CA… “Recall the Taxinator!;” Arnie videotapes/DVDs smashes/shredded

By Michelle Malkin  •  March 7, 2009 06:16 PM

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The tax-paying rebels are not going away.

In Green Bay, Wisconsin, today an estimated 500 protesters gathered for a Tea Party at Titletown Brewing. Reader David has more at Pork Revolution:

Green Bay reader Natalie was also there. She e-mails a few more photos and a note:

Dear Michelle,

There were families there, big tough guys in their local union# jacket, young college age people, grandparents, single people, everyone was represented, everyone was middle-class. It was great to see and also, to KNOW that for every person who showed up at this Tea Party, there were probably 500 that couldn’t make it….kinda like roaches!

The signs were amazing and I am once again, hopeful for my country and for our way of life.

My parents came to this country (legally!) to escape socialism and I refuse to just let the Obamites walk all over us. I was so happy to see that even those who have enjoyed our freedoms for generations are not taking them for granted!

Thank you for everything you do to keep this country free!

Reader Earl sends a report from Olathe, KS, where an estimated 120 taxpayers came to raise their voices. A few pics:

And in Lafayette, LA, from reader Fred:

In Harrisburg, PA, hundreds more turned out today. And protesters underscored a theme hammered here over the past year — blasting Bush for pre-socializing the economy for Obama:

The event, organized by the Commonwealth Foundation, a politically conservative group, and two local radio talk show hosts, was called the “Harrisburg Tea Party.”

“These are people who believe in limited federal and state government, but who think government has overstepped its limited role in our lives,” said foundation President Matthew Brouillette.

Speakers and participants denounced both Republicans, such as former President George Bush and Sen. Arlen Specter, and Democrats, such as President Barack Obama and Gov. Ed Rendell.

They disliked Mr. Bush’s actions last fall to give federal money to banks that had made poisonous home loans, and criticized Mr. Obama for spending additional billions of taxpayer dollars to prop up General Motors and Chrysler, to help over-leveraged homeowners trying to avoid foreclosure and to help deficit-ridden states with his $787 billion economic stimulus program.

Glenn Reynolds has a good crowd pic from Harrisburg.

Reader Bonnie sends her Harrisburg pics:

Party on!

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Reminder:

For new readers who are just learning about the protest movement and want to join, the best organizational resources are Tax Day Tea Party (nationwide April 15 events), Twitter #teaparty, PJTV’s list of upcoming protests, Re-TeaParty (send teabags to Washington and find July 4 events), and TCOT Report. And one more good one: New American Tea Party.

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Update 6:23pm Eastern. There’s a big tax revolt protest just underway in Fullerton CA, spearheaded by KFI’s John & Ken. Liveblogging here.

Some of the signs in the crowd:

“Governor Schwarzenegger is a girly man!”
“Recall the Taxinator!”
“No on Poop 1A!”
“Been-A-Dick Arnold”
“How do Politicians Spell Pledge? L-I-E.”
“Born Free, Taxed to Death.”
“Effeminator”

Twitter user Sugar Jones is livetweeting the protest and reports that Schwarzengger’s videotapes and DVDs were sledgehammered and shredded.

California taxpayers are mad.

A commenter below says there’s a huge traffic jam in Fullerton caused by protesters trying to get to the venue. Packed.

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  1. #642294
    On March 7th, 2009 at 6:24 pm, steveegg said:

    A couple of more notes about the Green Bay Tea Party:

    - That actually competed with Americans for Prosperity’s Defending the American Dream-Wisconsin Summit in Milwaukee (which is where I’ve been all day)

    - The 500 in Green Bay is somewhere over 13 times the number of protesters of the aforementioned Milwaukee summit despite an action alert sent out by the AFL-CIO and the SEIU.

  2. #642295
    On March 7th, 2009 at 6:24 pm, graysonret said:

    Wow! Keep up the good work. I hope the MSM finally will have to take notice.

  3. #642296
    On March 7th, 2009 at 6:26 pm, rfjjulie said:

    Way to Go! There will be a Tea Party in my town if a few weeks.

    Is there a problem/rule against me using someone else’s photo shop from this site for a poster?

  4. #642298
    On March 7th, 2009 at 6:27 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    To those who feel these protests are too little , too late…. DLTDHYOTWO… we don’t need you… cower in your hovels till the war is over.

  5. #642304
    On March 7th, 2009 at 6:41 pm, zyzzyg said:

    I wonder how far everyone is willing to take this no socialism?

    No more Social Security? Selling local bus and train systems to private industry? Ending Medicare and medicade? No more road building? Private toll roads used to be the order of the day. Everyone should have their own system for ensuring their food sources are safe, have their own hurricane (and volcano) warning systems, and flood warning systems.

    Just a few of the social spending programs that are in the ‘general welfare’ category, spoken to in the Constitution.

    I don’t pretend to have an answer, but calling out ’socialism’ requires the courage to be consistent, and call out out all the ’socialism’ that already exists. Otherwise, you are a hypocrite.

    As for pork, get the Republicans to withdraw their requests and let the Democrats own that by themselves. No more saying one thing and doing another.

    No more hypocrisy! Far worse than socialism.

  6. #642305
    On March 7th, 2009 at 6:42 pm, Pat said:

    I tried to get to the KFI tax protest, and it’s too full!! People are walking in from lots blocks away. There are literally thousands of people in their cars waiting to get to the site and filling the sidewalks. They are ANGRY!

  7. #642306
    On March 7th, 2009 at 6:43 pm, NotaSlickFan said:

    Here’s a bumper sticker/protest sign idea: “You voted for Obama and all you got was a lousy $13 a week allowance and somebody else’s mortgage”.

  8. #642308
    On March 7th, 2009 at 6:45 pm, plymouthacclaim said:

    Who knows, it may be too little, too late… I don’t know.

    What I do know is that it’s better than nothing. I ask our critics: “what are you doing?” I suspect that some of the “it won’t work” crowd are lib trolls trying to shut us up.

    Libs do have the advantage in staging protests and manipulating the media. We are having a crash course in Protest 101. This is it… do or die… our Apollo 13 moment. Failure is not an option.

    People are waking up. It’s slow, it’s painful, but it’s essential.

  9. #642310
    On March 7th, 2009 at 6:47 pm, DBNinKY said:

    Gotta luv that “Got Socialism?” sign!

  10. #642323
    On March 7th, 2009 at 7:00 pm, USCitizen said:

    Here is another idea for protesting the over-reaching government’s agenda:

    The Shot Heard Around the World

    “I hope you’ll join us, and the world can live as one”. Imagine that!

  11. #642324
    On March 7th, 2009 at 7:02 pm, rfjjulie said:

    On March 7th, 2009 at 6:41 pm, zyzzyg said:

    No more Social Security: YES
    Sellng to Local Transportation: YES
    No Medicare/Medicade: YES
    No more road building: YES
    Private Tolls: YES
    Ensure your own food? YES
    Hurricane/Volcano warning? NO. Step out side and watch the weather/volcano.
    The Constitution says nothing about general welfare of those things. Read the Constitution.

    Have you ever heard of personal responsibility?

    We cannot afford to protect every idiot from their own stupidity.

  12. #642326
    On March 7th, 2009 at 7:09 pm, bradley said:

    Until I get every last DIME that was taken out of my pay over 35 years for my Social Security, it’s not socialism. It’s MY MONEY. The government took it and used it, and owe it to me. ALL of it. They took a LOT, so I am owed a lot. Unlike many who contribute little yet expect a lot.

  13. #642329
    On March 7th, 2009 at 7:19 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    On March 7th, 2009 at 6:41 pm, zyzzyg said:

    I wonder how far everyone is willing to take this no socialism?

    No more Social Security? Selling local bus and train systems to private industry? Ending Medicare and medicade? No more road building? Private toll roads used to be the order of the day. Everyone should have their own system for ensuring their food sources are safe, have their own hurricane (and volcano) warning systems, and flood warning systems.

    Just a few of the social spending programs that are in the ‘general welfare’ category, spoken to in the Constitution.

    You can’t define “welfare” using only the current vernacular. Back in the day, the dictionary contained an alternate definition which tied “welfare” specifically to the the broad concept of “Exemption from any unusual evil or calamity.” Taking money from one person and giving it to another is not general welfare – it is specific welfare.

    End Social Security? Good heavens – yes.
    Privatize buses and trains? OK, or at least leave it up to the individual states. Why should the people in Alabama finance New York’s subway system, exactly? I’m fine with toll roads, but again leave it up to the individual states. Medicare and Medicaid are the two biggest reasons that our health care now costs so much. Yes, do away with them. Do away with the FDA, and let the individual states and the free market provide certification systems for food. Let local governments pay for their own resources.

    Read the 10th Amendment – all rights not specifically assigned to the Fed belong to the states.

    If you want the Fed to do something, then amend the constitution.

  14. #642330
    On March 7th, 2009 at 7:19 pm, NC BLUE said:

    Bradley
    Remember—-you employer matched your social security payments. Odumbo will probably rob this to. One Big Ass Mistake America!!!!

  15. #642332
    On March 7th, 2009 at 7:24 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    Until I get every last DIME that was taken out of my pay over 35 years for my Social Security, it’s not socialism. It’s MY MONEY. The government took it and used it, and owe it to me. ALL of it. They took a LOT, so I am owed a lot. Unlike many who contribute little yet expect a lot.

    That’s not how it works, nor was it designed to function that way. The workers pay for the retirees – it isn’t a savings account.

    Regardless, we are essentially obligated to support the people that we promised that we would support, and it is insanity to think we could just stop all these programs. We do owe it to people to pay them they money they were promised. But simply introducing a plan that would letting young people begin to opt out, and phasing out the programs in favor of a new dichotomy favoring responsibility and freedom would provide market confidence that would initiate the beginning of an economic recovery.

  16. #642344
    On March 7th, 2009 at 7:42 pm, guspapa said:

    Awesome!
    No more hypocrisy! Far worse than socialism.

    I have long contended that most Americans would put up with just about anything as long as the govt. doesn’t take away our beer.

    Welll it just looks like the BATF beer truck must have just pulled out of the super market. It is never too late. If we don’t protect our positions we don’t deserve the right to be here or to vote.

    Social Security, Unemployment, Medicaire, Medicaid get rid of them all and then review confiscatory State and Local policy and go after them all.

    If the Obamination can make this kind of sweeping change to our lives then we can do the same.

    Hope to Change the Change

  17. #642348
    On March 7th, 2009 at 7:45 pm, GladzKravtz said:

    The following is a side track:

    No more Social Security? Selling local bus and train systems to private industry? Ending Medicare and medicade? No more road building? Private toll roads used to be the order of the day. Everyone should have their own system for ensuring their food sources are safe, have their own hurricane (and volcano) warning systems, and flood warning systems.

    So what’s your point this day?? Allow it to get worse because of what has already happened? What the heck was your point!! The hypocrisy? So What! You want us to just let it get worse???

  18. #642350
    On March 7th, 2009 at 7:48 pm, rfjjulie said:

    That’s not how it works, nor was it designed to function that way. The workers pay for the retirees – it isn’t a savings account.

    The Social Security system was designed to function for widows/orphans. The system has been bastardized to include too many moochers. That’s the problem. Social Welfare at the cost of the tax payer.

  19. #642351
    On March 7th, 2009 at 7:48 pm, nuss said:

    MSM largely ingnoring these protests, or at least not turning out in large numbers. Problem is that conservatives are conservative in every thing they do. Their personalities don’t lend themselves to rebel rousing. They are not egotistical s***heads who feel compelled to see themselves in front of TV cameras and in the headlines. Too bad!! The revolution will come only after we are much deeper in the toilet than present.

  20. #642357
    On March 7th, 2009 at 7:58 pm, Boomer said:

    My thanks to those that attended today’s message to our political overlords. I hope they are getting the hint that the producers of our great nation are fed up with their arrogance and financial malpractice with our stolen tax income on behalf of the lazy and/or willfully ignorant. It’s great to see these protests picking up steam as they pop up all over this nation. Most of the people I know are very angry at the current administration, Congress, the courts and the direction they are leading us.

    For now we don’t have anything scheduled for the Boise, ID area, but doubt I would be able to take time off if we do, I am starting a new job on the base the week after next standing up a new flying Squadron and won’t be able to take much time off for the next couple of months.

    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE (mo-lone lah-veh) Translation: Come and take them!

  21. #642358
    On March 7th, 2009 at 8:02 pm, rfjjulie said:

    Godspeed, Boomer. And thank you for your service!

  22. #642364
    On March 7th, 2009 at 8:11 pm, tamarah180 said:

    Yeah SoCal!!!

    From KFI’s website:

    4:55 – John just tells the sea of angry taxpayers that we could’ve had this event at Staples Center and sold it out. That’s right!

    4:51 – Cops say there are over 15,000 people. Spilling into streets.

  23. #642374
    On March 7th, 2009 at 8:34 pm, JJwclink said:

    Keep the tea flowing, folks.

  24. #642387
    On March 7th, 2009 at 9:06 pm, katablog said:

    Great job all you tea partyers! I was in Olathe Kansas today where we had between 100 and 150 protesters – the third weekend in a row. I’ve done another slide show for today

    As far as social security, if the system is willing to give back the money I paid in along with reasonable interest for the 42 years I’ve paid in – then yes, they can stop it. I’m all for allowing the younger generations build their own accounts with their own money – but I agree, we can’t just cut off the seniors and those who are retiring within the next 10 years after the promises made and the money taken.

    Yes, we MUST make our voices heard and the Tea Parties need to continue (though one every weekend is a bit much Kansas!)

  25. #642394
    On March 7th, 2009 at 9:31 pm, beenthere said:

    I thought I would try an anagram of “carbon” as a protest slogan and see if people go for it. Let me know.

    Reduce Your “Can Rob” Footprint!

  26. #642396
    On March 7th, 2009 at 9:36 pm, tbear44 said:

    Wow, awesome signs!!! I am looking forward to returning to the lower 48 this summer to join the fight!

  27. #642398
    On March 7th, 2009 at 9:38 pm, tbear44 said:

    On March 7th, 2009 at 6:24 pm, graysonret said:
    Wow! Keep up the good work. I hope the MSM finally will have to take notice.

    Don’t hold your breath.

  28. #642399
    On March 7th, 2009 at 9:38 pm, swede said:

    On March 7th, 2009 at 9:06 pm, katablog said:

    As far as social security, if the system is willing to give back the money I paid in along with reasonable interest for the 42 years I’ve paid in – then yes, they can stop it. I’m all for allowing the younger generations build their own accounts with their own money

    I’m really sorry to bring you bad news, but that’s not how the SS system works. The money you paid in went to retirement payments for recipients. There is no money in an account for you. When you retire, others will need to pay in for your benefits. That’s how it’s set up.

    By the time us boomers retire, folks may have to pay in 30 or 40% just to keep the system going. That’s why we need to make other provisions. It may not continue to work.

    Not pretty, but it is what it is.

  29. #642400
    On March 7th, 2009 at 9:43 pm, katablog said:

    I understand the system. However, I’m not willing to just end SS right as my husband retires and 8 years before my retirement. Not because I am on the government dole, but rather because for years we paid into the system with no choice and with a promise. The US military has already reneged on their promise to us, causing us to have to pay for health care after 26 years of service and a promise of health care for life. Just how much do you think we should take it in the ear?

  30. #642401
    On March 7th, 2009 at 9:44 pm, Flyoverman said:

    I’m really sorry to bring you bad news, but that’s not how the SS system works. The money you paid in went to retirement payments for recipients. There is no money in an account for you. When you retire, others will need to pay in for your benefits. That’s how it’s set up.

    SS origianlly worked pretty much like an IRA. Over time the Congress could not resist robbing it to the point where in 1967 they folded SS into the General Fund pay for The Great Society and Vietnam. Otherwise, Johnson’s budget deficits would have been in low earth orbit instead of through the roof.

    And the return on the Great Society? ZERO. That’s where SS went.

  31. #642402
    On March 7th, 2009 at 9:47 pm, terristeelmagnolia said:

    http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_truth/2009/03/funding-palestinian-terror.html

    I’d like to know where WE are getting this 900 Million dollars.

  32. #642405
    On March 7th, 2009 at 10:12 pm, paulsur said:

    In the spending omnibus bill, 40% of the earmarks were authored and perpetrated by members of the republican party.
    Does that just make them 40% corrupt? Does that just make them 40 socialist? Does that just make them 40% irresponsible?

  33. #642407
    On March 7th, 2009 at 10:26 pm, sbw999 said:

    I DON’T watch the mainstream media (my stomach can’t take it). But for those in this forum that do, are these rallys and protests getting any coverage?

  34. #642408
    On March 7th, 2009 at 10:28 pm, sbw999 said:

    On March 7th, 2009 at 10:12 pm, paulsur said:
    In the spending omnibus bill, 40% of the earmarks were authored and perpetrated by members of the republican party.
    Does that just make them 40% corrupt? Does that just make them 40 socialist? Does that just make them 40% irresponsible?

    Socialist…no.
    Corrupt…maybe.
    Irresponsible…yes.
    Hypocritical…yes.
    Non-conservative…yes.
    Disgraceful…yes.

    IMHO.

  35. #642413
    On March 7th, 2009 at 11:12 pm, right_on said:

    In the spending omnibus bill, 40% of the earmarks were authored and perpetrated by members of the republican party.

    This is exactly the kind of thinking that has made our representatives greedy, and corrupt. Indeed! “B-b-b-u-t they did it, too!” “You can’t put the blame all on us…the Republicans did it, too!” And lest we forget the ever popular, “If we didn’t grab our share, they would have gotten all of it!”

    PLEASE!!!

    Enough! If ever there was proof that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, this is it!

    We need to work, in concert, to remove these corrupto-crats from office. I care nothing about their party affiliation. Most have been in office too long, and have succumbed to the influence of money and power. Let’s get people in office who work first and foremost for Americans, not for the Democrat or Republican Parties.

  36. #642417
    On March 7th, 2009 at 11:40 pm, Ordinary Coloradan said:

    Careful – MM’s compatriot “Allahpundt” will start calling the teaparty goers a “cult”, much like he already called Palin supporters a cult, and and jsut today, he called Limbaugh listeners a cult.

    Ed is a good guy, but Allahpundit is becoming more of a Benedict Arlen Specter than he is a Senator Coburn.

  37. #642419
    On March 7th, 2009 at 11:43 pm, rfjjulie said:

    Great photos from KC! Can’t wait for theone here.

    On March 7th, 2009 at 9:43 pm, katablog said:
    I understand the system. However, I’m not willing to just end SS right as my husband retires and 8 years before my retirement. Not because I am on the government dole, but rather because for years we paid into the system with no choice and with a promise. The US military has already reneged on their promise to us, causing us to have to pay for health care after 26 years of service and a promise of health care for life. Just how much do you think we should take it in the ear?

    Sorry to break it to you, but the SS system has failed because it has already been stolen from us. I have paid into it for 33 years and it is gone. I cannot depend on that. It’s been stolen from me. My 401K thru my employer (which I have next to no controle over) has been descimated (sp) and my Roth is not doing much better. Our gov’mt has done nothing but break promises and take, take, take. I’m am sick of it. Time to be responsible and fend for yourself.

    LOCK AND LOAD.

  38. #642422
    On March 7th, 2009 at 11:54 pm, Send_Me said:

    On March 7th, 2009 at 6:41 pm, zyzzyg said:
    I wonder how far everyone is willing to take this no socialism?

    “No more Social Security?” Social Security is not covered by Article 1, Section 8; ergo, it is unconstitutional.
    “Ending Medicare and medicade?” Government subsidized health-care: Not covered, hence also unconstitutional.
    “No more road building?” Roads are good to go: “To establish Post Offices and Post Roads.”
    “Everyone should have their own hurricane (and volcano) warning systems, and flood warning systems.” One could make a pretty strong argument that this is covered under provisions for forming a military (e.g. protecting the force), which provides the ancillary benefit of protecting our society as a whole. Same with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
    To name a few more not covered by the enumerated powers: the EPA, Dep. of Education, Housing and Urban Development, Health and Human Services, Energy (to a certain extent), Agriculture, Labor, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac…
    As for the “general welfare” clause, one should, as with the Bible, not take words out of context. Article 1, Section 8 begins:
    “The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;”
    The “general welfare” clause is not a blank check to Congress. The succeeding clauses define for them and the American people that with which they are charged. The 10th Amendment also states clearly: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

  39. #642444
    On March 8th, 2009 at 12:52 am, FloatingRock said:

    Wow! I can understand the anger directed at Arnold but I could never smash DVD’s of some of his movies. They’re among my favorites.

    But Jingle All the Way, at least, would be a worthy contribution to the cause…

  40. #642450
    On March 8th, 2009 at 2:02 am, thelcabroadside said:

    It’s great to see the movement growing but it needs to be of epic proportions before anything changes. Also I agree with FloatingRock, burn every copy of “Jingle All the Way” but you can’t have my “Total Recall” Blu-ray:) I did afterall pay for it myself, I didn’t have to wait for somebody else to do it for me.

  41. #642462
    On March 8th, 2009 at 3:48 am, GaMidnightRider said:

    I am hoping with my post in my blog I can motivate people to get out and make their voices heard. You can find it here.
    Please let me know what you think. I have had no comments and I am worried noone is reading it. I do not know if I am even doing it right.

  42. #642467
    On March 8th, 2009 at 4:23 am, Fuller said:

    A big THANKS to all in every city and town. “from an acorn, a mighty oak grows”.(?)
    The strangleholds of over government have got to stop…and WE the people are the only ones who can do it. By force, if need be. It’s that important.

  43. #642472
    On March 8th, 2009 at 5:27 am, graysonret said:

    The “general welfare” clause is not a blank check to Congress

    The purpose of the 10th amendment was to counteract that clause, because it “scared” a lot of people who saw it. Social security and medicare just can’t be declared unconstitutional and stopped. Too many people have paid into it, for years, and many people rely on it for medical help and income today. I would hate to say to patients, “Oh, no insurance or money to pay for treatment? Well, see you later.” Of course, that won’t happen. Many are very poor. You docs/nurses/therapists out there…how many times have you helped patients out of your own pocket? Just recently I visited an elderly lady (Spanish speaking, little English) who had TV but rarely watched it. I brought her a radio to listen to Spanish stations. The giant smile and hug was more than worth the price, and any drug I could give her. If anything, there should be an opt-out plan for SS and medicare, once Obamanomics has been put away. I wouldn’t do it now; Lord knows, the way the economy is. We have a lot of baby boomers hitting the retirement age soon. They deserve the money they’ve put out over the 40+ years. Many will have to rely on Medicare to help. You want a “revolution”, you’ll get one, if you stop the benefits.

  44. #642475
    On March 8th, 2009 at 6:54 am, skysoljr82 said:

    On March 8th, 2009 at 3:48 am, GaMidnightRider said:

    I am hoping with my post in my blog I can motivate people to get out and make their voices heard. You can find it here.
    Please let me know what you think. I have had no comments and I am worried noone is reading it. I do not know if I am even doing it right.

    I just signed up. Looks nice. “Build it and they will come.”

  45. #642480
    On March 8th, 2009 at 7:36 am, mike.musculus said:

    Conservatives:
    Running the Opinion Boards, I’ve noticed that the themes the Pro-Obamination/Pro-Socialists emphasize change pretty much in lockstep. I find that *very* interesting! I can’t help but wonder if there aren’t a few “guides” feeding lines of attack to sheeple minions.

    More importantly:
    A common attack against the Tea Parties I see posted all over is “… that means no more national highway system you [dissolves into profanity here] stupid conservatives…”.

    Don’t fall for it! As with all things Liberal, its a straw argument.

    Martin Musculus’ Political Background Journel [2007-05-15]

    The National Highway System was originally created for the purpose of efficently moving huge masses of troop around the US — use by the general public was a *secondary function*! Thus, it falls well under the provision of “Common Defense” stated in the The Founding Documents!

    The notion of a national highway system for fast & efficent movement of massed troops in the US had its origins in Germany’s Autoban, post WWII.

    The idea for which, in turn, came from the Roman Empire’s road system.

    So, when some Lying Liberal (sorry, that’s redundent [wink]) pops up with the No National Highways(tm) canard, hit them across the snout with that!

    When I’ve thumped them with it, they usually drop the subject and melt into deeper incoherence.

    BTW:
    Its commonly availible knowledge, its even been on the History Channel. If you want references, please google it — they’re difficult to enter into the PDA’s browser’s edit field formatted properly.

    OT:
    Final out-processing is winding down. Its going faster than usual because I’ve burned my inconvertible accumulated leave to work solidly on it.

    Partial DITY, with Household Goods picked up this Wednesday.

    Thursday: Final Out with Housing! Then my family & I are off the grid. Settling in Alaska… great hunting & fishing! No broadband, though [frown].

  46. #642484
    On March 8th, 2009 at 7:54 am, graysonret said:

    Eisenhower supported the idea of national highways; probably based on his coast to coast trip in the ’20s that took weeks. He also saw the Autoban and how effective it was. You’re right, Mike. It has nothing to do with getting people to work and home, etc.. Its purpose was to move troops quickly and evacuate cities in case of attack. Good luck in Alaska. Leave some fish for the rest of us.

  47. #642508
    On March 8th, 2009 at 8:42 am, travlinman said:

    I’m jealous Mike. Save a spot for the rest of us. Alaska… fresh crab, smoked salmon and moose burgers. Yum! Drop a line when you get the satellite connected. Good luck and God Speed.

  48. #642530
    On March 8th, 2009 at 9:30 am, Sea_Dog said:

    On March 8th, 2009 at 7:54 am, graysonret said:
    Eisenhower supported the idea of national highways

    Eisenhower is given little credit for the Interstate Highway system. As you mentioned, it was primarily a National Defense system to evacuate people from cities in case of nuclear attack (remember – duck and hide drills?). May do not know but one of the requirements of design was a straight stretch x miles long – buried reason – to land military aircraft in case there were no air bases left.

  49. #642536
    On March 8th, 2009 at 10:07 am, Boomer said:

    On March 8th, 2009 at 7:36 am, mike.musculus said:

    Enjoy the good life in the beautiful state of Alaska. The hardest part of rejoining civilian life has been figuring out what to wear vs. the old standard of wearing the uniform of the day.

    On March 8th, 2009 at 9:30 am, Sea_Dog said:

    May do not know but one of the requirements of design was a straight stretch x miles long – buried reason – to land military aircraft in case there were no air bases left.

    One of our KC-135A SAC Alert Op-Plans for the bad old days of the Cold War called for us to recover on what was hoped to be a frozen lake bed (provided it was winter) in the Great White North, with an alternate of an unimproved gravel strip/road (in summer) to taxi up to a fueling station at the local bush pilot strip to launch again. Not that we would have much to go back to if the balloon went up for real.

    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE (mo-lone lah-veh) Translation: Come and take them!

  50. #642537
    On March 8th, 2009 at 10:09 am, tonyr951 said:

    When John and Ken call, the masses answer.

    Shouting “Off with their heads!” and “Heads on a stick!” over 15,000 people from all over California descended on downtown Fullerton for the Revolt, Recall, Repeal rally to protest over $50 billion in tax increases in the state of California and to begin a recall effort against the governor and many state legislators. Freeway off ramps heading into Fullerton had to be shut down because so many people were heading to the event and police services were stretched thin, according to a sergeant handling traffic duty at the event.

    The crowd came as far away as San Diego, where 50 people chartered a bus to come and a caravan also came down from Palmdale.

    Russell Beare of San Dimas was among many who traveled a distance to attend the rally.

    “I don’t care how far I had to come, I’d be here,” he said, “Truthfully, I hope this wakes up everybody in the United States. This has got to stop!”

    Complete story

    Slide Show

  51. #642541
    On March 8th, 2009 at 10:44 am, simcoe said:

    2012 cannot come soon enough. I wish we had a conservative to vote for back in 2008.

  52. #642545
    On March 8th, 2009 at 11:08 am, zyzzyg said:

    So many of you have taken me to task it is difficult to respond to you individually.

    We already have many programs and systems that can be defined as socialism. Many of these programs and systems provide for the ‘general welfare’ of the people.

    Yep, the federal highway system was justified as a National Security need. How often is that heard as a jusitfication today? Or, is the justification crowded roads and commuting time? If you aren’t willing to accept private industry addressing this issue, then you accept the nationalization of the roads. And, it is not just the highways, but feeder roads and parkways.

    As for the FDA, which provides for the general welfare of our food supply, let’s talk peanuts and salmonella. The recent peanut mess is because private industry was in control of the entire operation, from manufacture to inspection. Yep, the inspectors were brought and paid for by the manufacturer. The inspectors had a vested interest in the success of the manufacturer.

    I am guessing the person who said look out the window to check on the weather never lived in tornado alley. Try telling the people living there that there will no longer be an early warning system paid for with tax dollars because it is socialism.

    Social Security is a current account. Money comes in and it goes out. There is no savings account, as others have pointed out. So, you have paid in. Accept a one time buyout and you won’t have this ’socialism’ to complain about anymore. Take that money an invest it in the stock market.

    Medicade and Medicare end them now. It is called personal responsibilty. Take care of yourself. This is socialism and we all know it.

    I may have missed a few items, but the point remains the same. We already have socialism, and minor forms of it, how far do we want to put and end to socialism? We accept socialism under the concept that it provides for the ‘general welfare’ of the people.

    If you are against this form of socialism, but not that form of socialism, then you should say so, and not simply say no to socialism. If so, you are a hypocrite.

  53. #642547
    On March 8th, 2009 at 11:22 am, Tennyson said:

    On March 7th, 2009 at 6:26 pm, rfjjulie said:

    Is there a problem/rule against me using someone else’s photo shop from this site for a poster?

    I don’t know the site’s position and I can’t speak for any of the many other artists featured here but if you want to use anything of mine (Tennyson Hayes) for a protest poster, not only do you have my permission, I would be honored.

    I may have higher-resolution versions available of some of my published images. If there’s something you want please just let me know and I’ll do my best to accommodate.

  54. #642551
    On March 8th, 2009 at 11:31 am, FilmLadd said:

    On March 8th, 2009 at 11:08 am, zyzzyg said:

    If you are against this form of socialism, but not that form of socialism, then you should say so, and not simply say no to socialism. If so, you are a hypocrite.

    Ah yes, one of the worst things that a socialist can call you: a hypocrite. Say it ain’t so!

    You fail to define the term socialism, and thus come across not as a hypocrite but as either an idiot or a monster.

    From: http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=socialism

    # S: (n) socialism, a political theory advocating state ownership of industry
    # S: (n) socialism, socialist economy (an economic system based on state ownership of capital)

    You, however, are defining socialism as “anything paid for by the State.”

    I don’t think the tea party goers are advocating anarchy or a return to horse-drawn carriages over dirt roads.

    When you argue against such strawmen you are at best a “useful idiot” for the enemies of freedom, and at worst a disgusting propagandist in the tradition of Joseph Goebbels.

  55. #642553
    On March 8th, 2009 at 11:39 am, FilmLadd said:

    Point 19 from Goebbel’s Principles of Propaganda:

    Propaganda cannot immediately affect strong counter-tendencies; instead it must offer some form of action or diversion, or both.

    Yes, divert people from the takeover by the State of all capital, to concern over Doppler Radar and toll roads.

    Good job, Joseph.

  56. #642560
    On March 8th, 2009 at 11:49 am, weeha said:

    Obama’s “Change To Believe” In:

    1. You have to believe the AIDS virus, school dropouts and Fatherless children are caused by a lack of Federal funding.
    2. You have to believe that our school system, that can’t teach a fourth grader how to read, is some how best qualified to teach those same children all about sex.
    3. You have to believe that guns, in the hands of law abiding Americans, are more of a threat to the U.S. than nuclear weapons technology in the hands of North Korea, Iran, and Pakistan.
    4. You have to believe there was no art before Federal funding.
    5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth’s climate, and more affected by Americans driving SUVs (unless of course the SUV’s are owned by Nancy Pelosi, Al Gore or anyone in Hollywood).
    6. You have to believe that public displays of homosexuality displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality “lifestyle choices” must be constitutionally protected but religious displays at Christmas should be illegal.
    7. You have to be against capital punishment but support abortion on demand, in any trimester.
    8. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity and jobs.
    9. You have to believe that hunters and conservation societies don’t care or know about nature, but activists from Seattle do.
    10. You have to believe that having self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
    11. You have to believe that the U.S. Military starts wars and not evil and tyrannical regimes.
    12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.
    13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.
    14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson or Thomas Edison.
    15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.
    16. You have to believe President Obama’s policies are all about “change and progress” and not power and money.
    17. You have to believe that every child ‘deserves’ a college degree, regardless of aptitude or intelligence and that vocational training is a thing of the past.
    18. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn’t worked anywhere it’s been tried, is because the right people haven’t been in charge.
    19. You have to believe Republicans speaking their minds are misinformed, but tax cheats belong in your White House cabinet or Congressional House.
    20. You have to believe that China and Mexico are practicing fair trade even though they have few if any pollution or labor protection laws.
    21. You have to believe that billions in illegal Democratic Party funding coming from by foreigners is in the best interest of the United States.
    22. You have to believe that the vociferous minorities who protest against prayer and saluting the flag in school have far more rights than the majority who believe in God and country and want these values instilled in our young children.
    23. You have to believe in that the stimulus and budget bills have no earmarks and will not expand government waste.
    24. You have to not believe Rush Limbaugh on anything ever.
    25. You have to believe that Trade Unions and Trial Lawyers create economic strength.
    26. You have to believe what Main Stream Media and Hollywood tell you to believe.
    27. You have to believe in wealth disparity legislation to remove wealth from successful earners and give wealth to unsuccessful earners.
    28. You have to believe that feminists and gays promote family ideals and morality.
    29. You have to believe that we should cut and run from Iraq because we never should have freed those people from Saddam Hussein.
    30. You have to believe that the government can save money by spending money. Lots and lots and LOTS of money.

    Hat tip to:
    http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/emannix/2009/03/07/things-president-obama-does-instead-of-watching-the-stock-market/#idc-ctools

  57. #642562
    On March 8th, 2009 at 11:50 am, rfjjulie said:

    Thank you Tennyson. Much appreciated.

  58. #642563
    On March 8th, 2009 at 11:56 am, pueblo1032 said:

    It is indeed GOOD to see people turn out for these “TEA PARTIES”… However, when THE EMPTY SUIT can get 2, 3 even 5000 people to turn out for his little excursions, we need to work HARDER… I see a lot more people joining into our “TEA PARTY” the longer obambi works on our IRAs and 401Ks… I only HOPE it’s not too late!!!

  59. #642578
    On March 8th, 2009 at 1:30 pm, Sea_Dog said:

    A number of months ago, one of the minor MSM made a comment regarding the immigration rallies, that we had begun to look like we were a third world nation with people in the streets protesting the government. Looks like Obambi has finally completed the transformation, except now it is citizens trying to take back their country instead of illegal aliens trying to take over. That is a ‘Mission Accomplished’.

  60. #642580
    On March 8th, 2009 at 1:32 pm, gippergirl said:

    I have an IOU from the State of CA burning a whole in my wallet…Arnie has been a disappointment for every Republican who voted for him…I know that there are a lot of Republicans who don’t like the Obama Administration, but at least everything that he is doing isn’t being done under McCain and further damaging our party…Lesson learned in CA, we’d have been better off sticking it out w/Grey Davis as I doubt things would’ve been different.

  61. #642581
    On March 8th, 2009 at 1:33 pm, graysonret said:

    If you are against this form of socialism

    In any society you have some sort of social interaction that is regulated. Otherwise, you have total anarchy; police/fire for example. We argue against the total control of society by any form of government that stifles independent thought and action to better oneself. When government controls the actions of its citizens, it is oppressive and needs to end. The citizens should decide how much control the government must have, not the other way around. That was the purpose of the Constitution. The government in place today, ignores the law, preferring to control the citizens without the proper procedure. If the citizens wish government control, the amendment process is used; not spending bills in congress. Of course, we know they could not win, so they ignore the process. The most successful way for a party/dictator to have total control in history, has been to create an “enemy” and pass bills to control it. Chavez is an example of today, though others, through history, are excellent examples. The only loser is the people, stirred up by the power-hungry.

  62. #642593
    On March 8th, 2009 at 2:05 pm, Laree said:

    The Big Dog Race Started Yesterday In Alaska Gov Sarah Palin was there. I voted For Gov Sarah Palin and Cindy McCain’s husband:)

    http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/03/iditarod-7-march-2009-race-begins.html

  63. #642595
    On March 8th, 2009 at 2:25 pm, inspiredhome said:

    I used to feel bad that I hadn’t finished college yet but I’ve come to realize that I learn a lot more studying on my own than I do taking classes at the local community college now. Higher education is overrated (and dumbed down). Although CU is closet to me I will not be transferring there once I finish my associate’s degree.

  64. #642596
    On March 8th, 2009 at 2:27 pm, inspiredhome said:

    Whoops. Wrong thread ;)

  65. #642602
    On March 8th, 2009 at 3:04 pm, Laree said:

    Lovely Photos of Bush morphing into Obama here. Looks like David Axelrod is no Karl Rove ;)

    http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2009/03/obama-such-bush.html

  66. #642609
    On March 8th, 2009 at 3:44 pm, corona said:

    These people are beyond parody.

    “That we find ourselves in this situation at all is … quite frankly, sickening,” said Senator Christopher Dodd, the Democrat who chairs the committee. “The lack of transparency and accountability in this process has been rather stunning.”

  67. #642610
    On March 8th, 2009 at 4:06 pm, bansharia said:

    dagnabit!!!
    Just got back to town this morning from Ct and missed the harrisburg tea party.
    I live in Camp Hill would love to get in touch with anyone who was there.
    WOO HOOO looks like a damn fine crowd almost as large as the Troop rallies.
    Great job gang!

  68. #642612
    On March 8th, 2009 at 4:09 pm, bansharia said:

    axlerod is everything Rove was accused of being by the commie left slackers and media hackers ( and undeniable pattern of what they accuse others of they are and more so ). he does not have the grace or love of America Rove has in his pinky toe….

  69. #642619
    On March 8th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, blue-eyed-devil said:

    Way to go, Southern California!

    I’ll be interested to see how the MSM covers this.

    Keep up the good work!

  70. #642637
    On March 8th, 2009 at 6:58 pm, cheapseat said:

    zyzz; this week you will see our gobmnt prosecute a guy who dared to start up and run a 50b dollar ponzi scheme. but f. roosevelt and l. johnson started up and the dems have run a 20 trillion dollar ponzi scheme for over 60 years and it’s nearing it’s collapse. medicare/medicaid and ss will be history by 2015 because just as with maddoff the system can only work if you have a never ending supply of new suckers, and if the value of the “fund” continues to be liquid. niether of those things can happen in our country. we can’t import enough wage earners paying adequate ss funds, and we never saved a dime of that ss tax, but rather spent it on other welfare programs. anyone younger than 60 today will probably never see a dime of ss or medicare. time to quit planning on that.

  71. #642678
    On March 8th, 2009 at 8:48 pm, Misscheryl said:

    This is really worth reading:

    Click here to view the article: > http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTQ4OTRmMGY0OWI0MDhiYmMyZmZhYzc2Nzc0Njc4MDI=>>

  72. #642683
    On March 8th, 2009 at 9:03 pm, Misscheryl said:

    weeha, your post is so true but I can’t help but blame ourselves. This has been a progressing since the 60s and is dominated by an anti-Christ, anti-Christian movement at it’s core, perpetuated and motivated by rebellious, malcontents, and nothing new. We are outraged, now that it may be too late…

  73. #642687
    On March 8th, 2009 at 9:39 pm, Cal City Conservative said:

    On March 8th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, blue-eyed-devil said:

    Way to go, Southern California!

    I’ll be interested to see how the MSM covers this.

    Well would you be surprised? I watched the evening news out of LA and not a peep was mentioned on any of them that I viewed.

    You can bet your butt that if it was something to do with prop 8 or some Obama love fest or other nonsense, it would have been the top story.

    Glad that the people out there raised some hell though!

  74. #642692
    On March 8th, 2009 at 10:00 pm, FilmLadd said:

    On March 8th, 2009 at 9:39 pm, Cal City Conservative said:

    I watched the evening news out of LA and not a peep was mentioned on any of them that I viewed.

    We need to start holding these tea parties outside the television stations. Block the reporters from getting inside. Shout in their faces.

    Think about it.

    Push back the evil at the source. Fight the disease (MSM), not the symptom (rinos and socialists).

  75. #642704
    On March 8th, 2009 at 10:55 pm, simcoe said:

    Is it too difficult for a person who wants to lead a nation to sit down with a good brain trust (which means those other than proven liars, cheaters, thieves, and infanticide murderers) and pound out a way to face problems head-on?

    OK, so the U.S. has gotten its first president with a partial African heritage and, like every other liberal, and it always seems to be the same, his only response to any and all social and economic problems is to throw (other people’s) money at them. Would you hire someone like that to run your company?

    Proving once again that, in some, education has little or no correlation to intelligence.

  76. #642705
    On March 8th, 2009 at 11:00 pm, Marine_NCO said:

    Lafayette LA
    the “Tea Party” was pretty good. I am estimating attendance @200 +-
    The very disappointing aspect was the total lack of media coverage. one station did a “drive-by” report and gave the event about 15 seconds on the 10 PM new. I and I am sure others, sent e-mails to the local stations scolding them for their no-show. every minority grievance gets a real report but middle class taxpayers get barely a mention. I am hoping for another “party” and will work harder to get coverage.

    Tea anyone?

    Semper Fi

  77. #642711
    On March 8th, 2009 at 11:38 pm, katablog said:

    Marine_NCO: I think most if not all the Tea Parties this weekend faced the same Non-MSM coverage. I know that KS did and I also would have expected with 15,000 CA would make the national news – but it didn’t.

    Yep, we have to find a way around them.

  78. #642723
    On March 9th, 2009 at 1:37 am, Alphonse said:

    I don’t think the Pelosi budget is amenable to taxation. Too monstrous. Has to be funded by borrowing and printing money. We need Bernie Madoff in Treasury to juggle lenders.

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