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1. #1
   On March 9th, 2009 at 3:20 pm, Jeddite said:

   I wonder how sparky feels now that all the /b/tards are laughing at him, and not with him anymore.

2. #2
   On March 9th, 2009 at 3:21 pm, sonofdy said:

   I am crying for him. Really.

3. #3
   On March 9th, 2009 at 3:22 pm, wighttrasch said:

   Payback? She is a beetch senor.

4. #4
   On March 9th, 2009 at 3:22 pm, sonofdy said:

   Actualy I know what its like to have a stalker, I have a creepy little guy attacking me on you tube. So I can relate to Palin in that respect.

5. #5
   On March 9th, 2009 at 3:22 pm, Jeff2161 said:

   Wow…I see a Cabinet level position for him. He’s qualified !

6. #6
   On March 9th, 2009 at 3:23 pm, englishqueen01 said:

   Good for the authorities for pressing charges. I just marvel at how, in this day and age, stupid you really have to be to think you can cover up most crimes, especially electronic ones.

7. #7
   On March 9th, 2009 at 3:25 pm, thirteen28 said:

   I’m surprised that BO hasn’t pardoned him yet, or at least directed the DOJ to drop the charges.

8. #8
   On March 9th, 2009 at 3:29 pm, kcnut said:

   Let drop the charges if he’ll be left in a room for 15 mins. With sarah and todd and a baseball bat. Palin/jindal 2012 the team of champions.

9. #9
   On March 9th, 2009 at 3:29 pm, letget said:

   I hope this kid spends time in prison, doubt it though, he is a dem.
   L

10. #10
    On March 9th, 2009 at 3:31 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    Throw the book at this douchebag.

11. #11
    On March 9th, 2009 at 3:36 pm, Flyoverman said:

    This is going to cost Daddy a lot of money. GUess the tolerance and diversity indoctrination the little darling received did not make much of an impression. oooops.

12. #12
    On March 9th, 2009 at 3:37 pm, tarpon said:

    Lying to the FBI, gets em every time.

13. #13
    On March 9th, 2009 at 3:37 pm, zeroangel said:

    *yawn*

    My outrage over this thing has long since past. The kid deserves to be punished but I think any jail time is a bit much.

    He isn’t stealing anyone’s credit cards or identities; he is just an idiot kid.

    A felony conviction will be enough to sufficiently ruin his chances of future employment. Perhaps he can get a steep fine and some kind of community service. In either case, its enough.

    Putting him in a federal prison seems a bit much IMHO. Beating him with baseball bats obviously violates the Constitution, but we all know that. *smile*

14. #14
    On March 9th, 2009 at 3:38 pm, zeroangel said:

    …then again, if he isn’t going to a “pound me in the a$$” prison, I guess a year or so wouldnt be too terrible.

15. #15
    On March 9th, 2009 at 3:45 pm, expat said:

    Judging from the rest of the Dhims in the current administration, this twit is destined for big things in the Dhimmi party.

16. #16
    On March 9th, 2009 at 3:46 pm, IrishEyes said:

    A felony conviction will be enough to sufficiently ruin his chances of future employment. Perhaps he can get a steep fine and some kind of community service.

    Or guarantee him a Democrap appointment somewhere. Wonder how this rates next to a tax cheat running the IRS.

17. #17
    On March 9th, 2009 at 3:48 pm, zeroangel said:

    IrishEyes:

    Or guarantee him a Democrap appointment somewhere.

    LOL! Very true. Perhaps some jail time is in order. Then again, do we really want to give him any “street cred?”

18. #18
    On March 9th, 2009 at 3:49 pm, InCali said:

    Funny. I was just thinking about this case the other day. I was curious for an update.

19. #19
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:09 pm, J S Ragman said:

    lib mode on/

    Well, it’s no worse than Bush’s warrantless wiretaps on US citizens.

    lib mode off\

    I even made myself gag on that one.

20. #20
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:13 pm, Craig said:

    A felony conviction? Heck, that only gives him the bonafides….a ‘street cred’ with the democrats and the BO homeboys.

21. #21
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:17 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Throw this little liberal weenie in jail and make him share a cell with Bad Bart. I have no sympathy for him. None. And I’m sick of all the leniency shown these spoiled little brats. This was a CRIME.

22. #22
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:17 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    This will only get interesting if it turns out that Daddy helped in his coverup. Then we’ll see some fancy dancing. MSM, what say you?

23. #23
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:19 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On March 9th, 2009 at 3:37 pm, zeroangel said:
    *yawn*

    My outrage over this thing has long since past. The kid deserves to be punished but I think any jail time is a bit much.

    Impeding an FBI investigation is not serious enough? I guess in light of the idea it is okay for a POTUS to lie to a grand jury, I see your point.

24. #24
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:23 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:17 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:
    This will only get interesting if it turns out that Daddy helped in his coverup. Then we’ll see some fancy dancing. MSM, what say you?

    Now, that would be an interesting development. I almost hope that is the case. Wouldn’t be the first time a libtard has broken the law to cover up for his precious little brat.

25. #25
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:24 pm, James Felix said:

    He isn’t stealing anyone’s credit cards or identities; he is just an idiot kid.

    Call me crazy, but I think using illegal means to influence who becomes leader of the free world is every bit as serious as credit card fraud.

    A felony conviction will be enough to sufficiently ruin his chances of future employment.

    Maybe he should have thought of that before he, you know, committed multiple felonies.

    They need to throw the book at this little scumbag for the same reason they need to keel-haul the people who illegally searched Joe the Plumber’s records. There’s an appalling number of people in this country who seem to think that crime is ok as long as it’s directed at the right people (i.e. republicans and conservatives). That’s a recipe for mob rule, not a healthy republic.

26. #26
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:26 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:19 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    I agree. It sounds like zeroangel is willing to overlook the fact that this kid committed a crime and then tried to cover it up. Last I heard, Scooter Libby did less, and look what happened to him. A slap on the wrist is not enough here. Or don’t our laws mean a thing any more??

27. #27
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:27 pm, mchristian said:

    he is just an idiot kid.

    I might feel that way if he were twelve. But he is certainly old enough to know better and I have no sympathy.

28. #28
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, DagneyT said:

    Once the new AG hears about this, he’ll put a stop to further prosecution.

29. #29
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:30 pm, Laree said:

    What if we did the November Election over today I wonder if there wouldn’t be a different outcome…I mean it seems relevant some how that Governor Sarah Palin has actually ran a Government. Just saying do overs called because of interference SEE The MSM.

30. #30
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:32 pm, DagneyT said:

    A felony conviction will be enough to sufficiently ruin his chances of future employment. Perhaps he can get a steep fine and some kind of community service. In either case, its enough.

    Zeroangel, ever heard of a little thing called “consequences”?

31. #31
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:33 pm, rambler said:

    How about a do over petition?

32. #32
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:34 pm, DagneyT said:

    MSM, what say you?

    Cheddar, you’re joking, right? LOL

33. #33
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:34 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:27 pm, mchristian said:

    he is just an idiot kid.

    I might feel that way if he were twelve. But he is certainly old enough to know better and I have no sympathy.

    I have to look at how he was raised. Apple…

    I could do some hacking if it were my thing but, I was raised different. I own a gun. Should I shoot people because I can. Should I be given a pass because I chose my target well?

    It hurts my head to know there are people out there who have no problem giving someone a pass for the “right reason/target” what ever that is.

34. #34
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:43 pm, Laree said:

    Let’s recall the One, he is tired already anyway.

    Fresh Horses, Someone the Market doesn’t Hate. What happens if they all stopped trading?

35. #35
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:44 pm, Jeddite said:

    Serving 5 years for the lulz.

36. #36
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:52 pm, happyscrapper said:

    I just saw this guy on Neil Cavuto who criticized Guethner for being a tax cheat. He has a website, but I can’t remember his name. He said that, “coincidentally”, he is now being audited by the IRS. Never been audited before, and now, all of a sudden, he is being audited. Coincidence? I doubt it. Don’t know for sure. This is getting more frightening by the day.

37. #37
    On March 9th, 2009 at 4:55 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Sources close to the White House say Mr Obama and his staff have been “overwhelmed” by the economic meltdown and have voiced concerns that the new president is not getting enough rest.

    Cant’ take it, huh? Party on, Obama!

38. #38
    On March 9th, 2009 at 5:05 pm, mchristian said:

    On-my-soap-box said: It hurts my head to know there are people out there who have no problem giving someone a pass for the “right reason/target” what ever that is.

    For some, anyone with whom you disagree is an enemy.

39. #39
    On March 9th, 2009 at 5:10 pm, cheapseat said:

    his actions easily outweigh martha stewarts and scooter libby’s in criminality. if he had found any dirt, does anyone really believe he would not have disseminated it. he spread he family photos and emails. martha lied to the feds and so did scooter. both went to jail with no underlying crime to those lying to the feds charges. he has underlying crimes and lying to the feds. either lock him up, or make him tim geithner’s assistant.

40. #40
    On March 9th, 2009 at 5:16 pm, hunter said:

    On March 9th, 2009 at 3:38 pm, zeroangel said:

    Yeah, zeroangel, I’m going to need you to go ahead and come in on Saturday. Ok great.

41. #41
    On March 9th, 2009 at 5:27 pm, jimyai said:

    For those who think the kid should not do jail time:
    Jail time for him might make someone in the future think before they do something this stupid.
    Does anyone know what happened to the Sen. Schumer’s staffers who hacked Michael Steele’s social security Number and other personal info.
    I’m guessing nothing happened to those jerks.

42. #42
    On March 9th, 2009 at 5:30 pm, lottadawg said:

    Good call cheapseat. I don’t know how many times someone has been slammed or had personal property impounded for receiving stolen property and knowingly use it. Know it won’t happen , but, I would love to see the AP slammed for abusing their 1st amendment right. What they did was just as criminal as Scooter and I think more so. Scooter was trapped and I don’t see any traps for the AP scumbag water carriers for the Libs.
    I think there is no way they didn’t know what they were doing. They would have encouraged the kid.

43. #43
    On March 9th, 2009 at 5:38 pm, zeroangel said:

    All concerned:

    Let’s have one exchange without pretended shock at my opinions, please?

    In the grand scheme of things, no, this is not serious IMHO. It’s the case of some idiot kid and a stupid prank. It’s not insider trading, it’s not corruption, and he didn’t shoot anyone, so please forgive me if I don’t think he deserves 5 yrs in a “pound me in the a$$” federal prison.

    BTW, I also think Scooter Libby was dealt with unfairly. Martha Stewart might have gotten a raw deal too, but honestly I didn’t pay that close attention to the case.

    In any case, I have a whole host more of opinions that you guys can get generally offended at, just for once, let’s agree to disagree and you guys can stop quoting / responding to me with pseudo-outrage *smile*.

    Hunter:

    Yeah, zeroangel, I’m going to need you to go ahead and come in on Saturday. Ok great.

    LOL!

44. #44
    On March 9th, 2009 at 5:43 pm, zeroangel said:

    oops.. Genuinely offended at .

45. #45
    On March 9th, 2009 at 5:48 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    Sources close to the White House say Mr Obama and his staff have been “overwhelmed” by the economic meltdown and have voiced concerns that the new president is not getting enough rest.

    If you can’t stand the heat, you shouldn’t have wanted to be Commander in Chef in the first place.

    …unlawful electronic transmission of material outside Tennessee…

    This is similar to interstate flight to avoid prosecution or mail fraud. The point is to make sure you’re guilty of at least one of the charges and the FBI will make sure you get some time.

46. #46
    On March 9th, 2009 at 5:49 pm, zeroangel said:

    …to clarify. It indeed was a bit more than a prank. He was looking for something “damning” to ruin her campaign.

    He failed utterly. Yay! It still doesn’t mean he should get 5 yrs. Rapists sometimes get less.

47. #47
    On March 9th, 2009 at 6:04 pm, atheling said:

    zeroangel:

    You have no concept of justice. And it’s not surprising since you’re morally retarded.

48. #48
    On March 9th, 2009 at 6:08 pm, Madam President said:

    To Jeddite:

    ROFL

49. #49
    On March 9th, 2009 at 6:10 pm, zeroangel said:

    Atheling:

    LOL! Welcome back princess!

    I guess you couldn’t stay civil forever. How’s that sheen on the tiara these days?

50. #50
    On March 9th, 2009 at 6:13 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On March 9th, 2009 at 5:16 pm, hunter said:
    On March 9th, 2009 at 3:38 pm, zeroangel said:
    Yeah, zeroangel, I’m going to need you to go ahead and come in on Saturday. Ok great.

    Don’t you dare give him back his stapler! He could hurt hisself!

51. #51
    On March 9th, 2009 at 7:19 pm, happyscrapper said:

    zeroangel said:He failed utterly. Yay! It still doesn’t mean he should get 5 yrs. Rapists sometimes get less.

    No one is saying he should get 5 years. But 6 months would be quite appropriate. And as for rapists, they should not only get MORE than 5 years, but their privates should be removed with a dull, rusty knife.

52. #52
    On March 9th, 2009 at 7:30 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Of course the idiot pleaded “not guilty”. Okey dokey. This should be an easy one.

    What, Obama made him do it? Actually, that’s probably not that far fetched.

53. #53
    On March 9th, 2009 at 7:31 pm, zeroangel said:

    Happyscrapper:
    See above #14. I agree 6 months is fine. I was even willing to go for a year and long as it wasn’t a “pound me in the a$$” prison.

54. #54
    On March 9th, 2009 at 7:53 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On March 9th, 2009 at 7:31 pm, zeroangel said:
    Happyscrapper:
    See above #14. I agree 6 months is fine. I was even willing to go for a year and long as it wasn’t a “pound me in the a$$” prison.

    There’s where we disagree. I agree that 6 months is o.k., but he should be made to bunk in with Bad Bart.

55. #55
    On March 9th, 2009 at 7:58 pm, zeroangel said:

    happyscrapper:

    ..of course you are kidding. Facilitating a rape is nearly as bad as rape itself.

56. #56
    On March 9th, 2009 at 8:03 pm, Jeddite said:

    An example must be set for this. If it is not, then it might only encourage more of such behavior.

    For the sake of argument, consider what might have happened if something incriminating was found and Palin’s VP candidacy was sunk by some amateur, lone, “political vigilante.” The headlines! The praise! Oh sure, we can’t have people taking the law into their own hands, or breaking the law “for the greater good”, but this young man torpedo’d Sarah Palin has John McCain’s VP and (in another dimension) sank the GOP’s shot a the White House.

    Of course, none of this happened. But supposing this little weasel gets a slap on the wrist. That sends a message that, hey, it’s just email!” – why is anybody really upset about this?

    What’s to stop another internet crusadernerdlante from snooping around, hacking, cracking, hax0r-ing, crax0r-ing Bobby Jindal’s email accounts? If something incriminating is found – PRAISE! ADULATION! from a sympathetic media (after all, we’re not really going to punish somebody for uncovering political scanal/corruption, are we?). If nothing is found, hey, you get slapped on the wrists and enjoy your 15 minutes of fame. Why not?

    Well, aside from the fact that it’s wrong – that’s why not.

    “For the lulz”, indeed.

57. #57
    On March 9th, 2009 at 8:17 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    He said that, “coincidentally”, he is now being audited by the IRS. Never been audited before, and now, all of a sudden, he is being audited. Coincidence? I doubt it.

    When Hilary Clinton became co-president in 1993, many conservative radio talk show hosts got audited for the first time or for the first time in a long while. And, it happened every year of the Clinton’s administration. When Bush became president, the auditing stopped.

    This is what the Barrett report exposed. However, the democrats in congress got hundreds of extra (re: non-security related) pages redacted.

    This is why the FairTax must be passed. The politicians don’t really care about the money; this is also why the democrats don’t pay. It’s not the money. It’s the ability to put the thumbscrews to those they hate.

58. #58
    On March 9th, 2009 at 8:34 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On March 9th, 2009 at 7:58 pm, zeroangel said:
    happyscrapper:

    ..of course you are kidding. Facilitating a rape is nearly as bad as rape itself.

    Hmmm…I wouldn’t say I was facilitating it. Just putting him in a cell with Bart doesn’t mean anything will happen. The little creep might not be his type.

59. #59
    On March 9th, 2009 at 8:35 pm, zeroangel said:

    happyscrapper:

    If the hacker in question was female would you do the same?

60. #60
    On March 9th, 2009 at 8:40 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On March 9th, 2009 at 8:35 pm, zeroangel said:
    happyscrapper:

    If the hacker in question was female would you do the same?

    Of course not!! I would put her in with Big Bertha.

61. #61
    On March 9th, 2009 at 9:16 pm, goodforlaughs said:

    Gee, I tried teaching my kids when they were growing up, that there is a consequence to our actions. Now we all know, daddy’s going to put the pressure on somebody and his little angel won’t be sharing a cell with Big Bart! That’s for commoners and we know he’s not one of those!

62. #62
    On March 9th, 2009 at 9:26 pm, zeroangel said:

    Actually, I really don’t even think “commoners” deserve to be raped in prison (unless except if maybe they are rapists themselves) but that’s beside the point.

63. #63
    On March 9th, 2009 at 10:26 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On March 9th, 2009 at 9:26 pm, zeroangel said:
    Actually, I really don’t even think “commoners” deserve to be raped in prison (unless except if maybe they are rapists themselves) but that’s beside the point.

    In case you haven’t figured it out, zero…I am putting you on. I guess my humor escapes you. Sorry.

64. #64
    On March 9th, 2009 at 10:47 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    Ahhh – these Democrats have just GOT to be proud. Their larva are growing up just like them!

    David Kernell is following right along in daddy’s snail trail… it’s a touching moment.

    Shame he didn’t learn that “Don’t get caught” bit… then again neither did Bill Clinton.

    BTW – Anyone know why the Obamas both lost their law licenses?

65. #65
    On March 9th, 2009 at 10:52 pm, happyscrapper said:

    BTW – Anyone know why the Obamas both lost their law licenses?

    Another mystery that may never be solved. Obama is a master at covering his past. And he had lots of help, including the media that covered for him too. So many questions, so little curiosity. The man is a complete enigma.

66. #66
    On March 9th, 2009 at 10:58 pm, goodforlaughs said:

    I was not implying that anyone deserves to be raped in prison. However, I would be surprised if this little twerp felon would serve any prison sentence in the general population at the nearest big house. Afterall, the dems are in control and they got laws for the likes of us commoners and those same laws/punishments don’t apply to one of theirs. We’ll see, won’t we!

67. #67
    On March 9th, 2009 at 11:46 pm, corkie said:

    BTW, I also think Scooter Libby was dealt with unfairly. Martha Stewart might have gotten a raw deal too, but honestly I didn’t pay that close attention to the case.

    You’re right. In fact, we should encourage all people to lie to federal investigators!

68. #68
    On March 10th, 2009 at 12:00 am, zeroangel said:

    happyscrapper:

    I knew you were playing with me after the “Big Bertha” thing.

    #62 was in response to goodforlaughs.

69. #69
    On March 10th, 2009 at 12:04 am, zeroangel said:

    corkie:

    You’re right. In fact, we should encourage all people to lie to federal investigators!

    As I said, I didn’t pay close attention to the case, however, if (as some have led me to believe) the feds were conducting a witch hunt against Stewart, I wouldn’t be surprised if she lied.

    Look, I am big on enforcing the law myself. I support the death penalty and I think bad people should go to jail.

    I just don’t see how Martha Stewart was such a hot-button for the feds considering how so many of these big CEOs guilty of real fraud escape punishment of any kind.

70. #70
    On March 10th, 2009 at 12:25 am, bob121 said:

    Hey, it’s no worse than Watergate.

    I hope the kid rolls on whatever DNC stooge put him up to this.

71. #71
    On March 10th, 2009 at 1:12 am, RetFireman said:

    Having been stalked and harassed by “she who must not be named” a couple of years ago, and still going on to a certain degree, I can tell you, it is not pretty in the least, and the laws are still such as prosecution tends to merely hand out a slap on the wrist, if even that much.

    However, this little dweeb went a bit farther than just stalking and hacking. This wasn’t some “Joe Blow” off the street, or and ex who didn’t give back your records, this was the Governor of the State of Alaska and the Republican Vice Presidential Candidate. What this should be amounting to is treason. He released the personal information and account access info to someone who had intricate knowledge of secret government goings on.

    Sure, he allegedly did not release anything of that nature, but what if he had just not found it yet before he was caught? After all, he released the access info onto the Internet. Anyone could have accessed it, spent a bit more time digging around and BLAMMO…

    If anything, this should be used to change the laws regarding Internet Stalking, as well as hacking and anything else related to them. The fact that this little toad is a toad of privilege and thus most assuredly knew better and was acting beyond simply pranking Gov. Palin. His father is in the Government, for crying out loud.

    I hope they make an example out of him. I hope that whoever the judge is, and I would bet a month’s pay he has already been approached with offers to “go easy” on him, takes serious offense at this and throws the freaking book at him.

    Stop apologizing for him and for heinous actions. Stop saying things like, “Well, it’s not like he was stealing credit cards, etc., etc.” and other moral relativity BS. Why would it have been worse? Would Gov. Palin have felt less violated if he was only breaking into her account and leaving nasty notes? Be serious.

    He needs to be taught that his place in society and who his daddy is has no relevance to his punishment. Throw the book at him and make him realize what a little punk he is and show all the rest of those /b/ jerks that such actions will no longer be tolerated or given a “slap on the wrist”.

72. #72
    On March 10th, 2009 at 1:17 am, RetFireman said:

    On March 9th, 2009 at 10:58 pm, goodforlaughs said:

    I was not implying that anyone deserves to be raped in prison

    Sorry, but I personally am all for putting wife beaters, child molesters, rapists and other such stellar citizens into General Population, and stop spending the extra money and effort protecting them in Protective Custody. Prison used to be a deterrent, not a badge of honor or something to just get through, let alone made easier because it sucks.

73. #73
    On March 10th, 2009 at 1:42 am, zeroangel said:

    RetFireman:

    If Sarah Palin was kicking around senstive (classified?) information on her yahoo account she probably deserves to go to jail too, or at least lose any clearance she might have.

    Since it is a yahoo account it doesn’t deserve to be treated in a court of law anymore than anyone else’s yahoo account.

74. #74
    On March 10th, 2009 at 2:01 am, RetFireman said:

    Thank you so much for demonstrating the exact moral relativism that I was referring to. making the crime more or less significant based on who it was and where it was rather than the plain fact that it was a crime.

    ‘Well, maybe if that child had been in the yard and not allowed to ride her bike around the block, she wouldn’t have been close enough to the child molester to have been attacked. In fact, if she actually knew that the child molester lived there, then maybe she deserved to be attacked in the first place.”

    Go on, mock the example and claim it isn’t the same thing…but it is EXACTLY the same thing.

    You are even blaming the victim. Real class. No wonder the criminal justice in this country is nothing more than a revolving door. People like you with that type of thought processes is the reason so many guilty and bad people go free.

75. #75
    On March 10th, 2009 at 9:14 am, Vic said:

    On March 9th, 2009 at 3:37 pm, zeroangel said:
    *yawn*

    My outrage over this thing has long since past. The kid deserves to be punished but I think any jail time is a bit much.

    Under normal circumstances, I’d agree. However, this clown accessed Palin’s email with – by his own admission – the intent of digging up any kind of dirt to derail Palin’s candidacy. That right there is conspiracy to tamper with an election – at the bare minimum.

76. #76
    On March 10th, 2009 at 9:20 am, happyscrapper said:

    On March 10th, 2009 at 1:42 am, zeroangel said:
    RetFireman:

    If Sarah Palin was kicking around senstive (classified?) information on her yahoo account she probably deserves to go to jail too, or at least lose any clearance she might have. Since it is a yahoo account it doesn’t deserve to be treated in a court of law anymore than anyone else’s yahoo account.

    Zero…you lost a lot of credibility with that response. Blaming the victim is a no-no. What that little snot did was criminal. Period.

77. #77
    On March 10th, 2009 at 11:16 am, zeroangel said:

    RetFireman / happyscrapper:

    I realize that you guys just want to argue with me for the sake of argueing, however, it’s a bit silly when you argue with me when I am just stating a fact.

    Mishandling of classified information is a very big deal. Mishandling certain types can constitute a crime.

    Vic:

    That right there is conspiracy to tamper with an election – at the bare minimum.

    That is a good point, although I am not sure if that would be true legally. I think election tampering means stuff like voter fraud or miscounting votes.

    I sincerely doubt (since this is a personal email) that it can be treated in a legal sense any different than any other person’s email.

78. #78
    On March 10th, 2009 at 11:28 am, happyscrapper said:

    I realize that you guys just want to argue with me for the sake of argueing, however, it’s a bit silly when you argue with me when I am just stating a fact.

    O.K. There is that “full of yourself” arrogance that you do so well. Calling someone who expresses an opinion “silly”. I guess that is better than “bogus”. I don’t consider it “silly” to criticize you for using the “blame the victim” argument. You were implying that Sarah Palin got what she deserved for using an unsecured provider for her e-mails. That was a lazy argument, used by libs all the time. It doesn’t matter that little boy wonder didn’t find anything. What he did was a criminal offense and he needs to be punished. Don’t diminish the seriousness of the crime by putting part of the blame on Palin’s carelessness. If there had been anything on there to damage her, you can bet it would be made public. And yes, it would have been stupid on her part, but that is not at issue here.

79. #79
    On March 10th, 2009 at 11:35 am, zeroangel said:

    happyscrapper:

    I am stating a fact!

    I might as well be saying 2 + 2 = 4 and then you go on to say you don’t like my opinion.

    If stating FACTS is arrogant, well then, guilty as charged.

    You were implying that Sarah Palin got what she deserved for using an unsecured provider for her e-mails.

    What? NO I DIDN’T. Here is what I said:

    If Sarah Palin was kicking around senstive (classified?) information on her yahoo account she probably deserves to go to jail too, or at least lose any clearance she might have.

    The very key word being “if.”

    What he did was a criminal offense and he needs to be punished.

    I agree, recall I was calling for one year, you only wanted 6 months!

    Don’t diminish the seriousness of the crime by putting part of the blame on Palin’s carelessness.

    What? I am not. I am just making the point that since it isn’t an official government medium I don’t think or know if he can be charged with anything more!

    Honestly!

80. #80
    On March 10th, 2009 at 11:42 am, happyscrapper said:

    On March 10th, 2009 at 11:35 am, zeroangel said:
    happyscrapper:

    I am stating a fact!

    O.K. I may have misinterpreted your remarks. It really did sound like a “blame the victim” argument. But if that was not your intention, then I apologize. That kid still needs to “hang out” (pun intended) with Bad Bart for a while!

81. #81
    On March 10th, 2009 at 12:00 pm, RetFireman said:

    Oh…I get it…you would have only blamed the victim IF there had been something there to blame her for.

    Got it. That makes perfect sense.

    You are right…you can’t blame the victim for something that wasn’t there. Good thing there wasn’t, otherwise it would have been entirely her fault and she would have got what she deserved. How dare she have a private account that no one other than herself is supposed to access. Horrible, just horrible.

82. #82
    On March 10th, 2009 at 12:12 pm, zeroangel said:

    RetFireman:

    No, I was respnding to you here:

    He released the personal information and account access info to someone who had intricate knowledge of secret government goings on.

    Sure, he allegedly did not release anything of that nature, but what if he had just not found it yet before he was caught?

    If Sarah Palin had “secret government goings on” on her yahoo account and this hacker got ahold of it and posted it on the internet BOTH of them would be in very serious trouble because (as I sad) mishandling of classified information is a very big deal. Mishandling certain types can constitute a crime.

    Honestly, are you seriously trying to say that you think it’s totally OK to put “secret government goings on” on a completely unsecured network?

    I realize you may have never worked in government at anything beyond a local level (fire department) but I assure you, it’s not OK to use yahoo for those kinds of things.

83. #83
    On March 10th, 2009 at 12:27 pm, dan708 said:

    Maybe someone else already thought of this, but:
    One wonders if this UT “student” had a secret arrangement to sell his information to the Obamedia. I wouldn’t put anything past them!

84. #84
    On March 10th, 2009 at 7:19 pm, KaosKlerik said:

    He committed an illegal act specifically to alter the outcome of a Presidential election. He also posted the access information hoping that others would use the info to falsely represent themselves as Sarah Palin to her detriment. That is solicitation of identity theft.

    That he failed to do so does not alter his INTENT.

    He didn’t hack into her email to make fun of her or make her look foolish, his intent was malicious.

    Punk needs a room at the Greybar Motel for at least 6 months. No Bad Bart. Just serious consequences

85. #85
    On May 21st, 2009 at 6:10 pm, SakakiO said:

    The kid doesn’t need 6 months or a year. He deserves 25 years.

    Identity Theft brings with a penalty of at least 15 years in prison in most states, and could even be larger in a combined federal/state case.

    Wire Fraud and Interstate Communications Fraud (both are valid in this case) each bring a maximum of 5 years and a $100,000 fine (fine is usually waved, while the 5 years is not).

    The fact is that it does not matter what type of information was in the yahoo account. Just the fact that he BROKE IN should land him 15 years in prison.

    If it were me, though, I’d execute him.

86. #86
    On May 21st, 2009 at 7:25 pm, Brian72 said:

    Waterboard him till he pukes.