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Care to start volunteering names of the posters here who don’t hate Obama? beyond the obvious “trolls”?
If Little Boots commissioned the AFI to compile these Great American Films, why didn’t they know and why didn’t the protocol people know that the US of A is NTSC Standard and UK uses PAL Standard for video? I, for one, believe Little Boots sent one of his lesser minions to the discount video bargain bin at Walmart to choose the gift.
He’s blind in one eye. but by all means let’s treat him like a decrepit cripple.
Oh…but I guess the great American books would probably not be so hot either. Actually even more useless. Unless….we get Brad Pitt to do House of Seven Gables on Book on Tape. And Scarlett Johansenn can narrate Little House on the Praire! That would be super classy!
Why do you think they didn’t? Where is it indicated anywhere (besides some wisecracks) that the DVDs were not coded for the right region?
Me, for one, and that’s the only one for which I’ll speak. I greatly dislike most of the man’s political policies, but that doesn’t mean that I hate him.
It’s not a requirement to like the guy in order to disagree with his actions and ideas.
Lastly, my comment about the “you people” was a joke.
No, just found it funny that you would consider E.T. an outstanding contribution to the arts.
I know it was Salt. But I recant and amend my previous statement. to delete all references to “hate” and replace it with “at a minimum strongly dislike the policies of”.
(emphasis mine)
Of course!
And, I completely agree.
I also notice that the thoughtfulness displayed is in *proportion* to that person’s ability to be thoughtful…
Doesn’t speak so well for Der Bummer… Oh, well, I’m sure his lickspittle followers won’t see it…
BTW
atheling, great posts!
It was a technical marval at the time. Roger Ebert has it in his “Great Movies” list. But was ET one of the movies, in any case?
Walmart does not sell PAL coded DVDs is why it is so painfully obvious.
So your conclusion form this fact is….?
Of course he would consider E.T. a great contribution to the arts. He thinks Scarlett Johannsson is a good actress. LOL.
And no, Chapoutier, you can lie and spin all you like (and as your MO consists), but Mr. Brown IS going blind, and to give him DVDs indicates gross ignorance and stupidity.
But the Idiot in Chief reflects his voters. LIKE YOU.
I believe so.
No. But she is super hot. I hope it does not hurt you to hear me say that sweets. I don’t think you are the jealous type.
All groundbreaking.
ET was among the 25 movies.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1159627/To-special-friend-Gordon-25-DVDs-Obama-gives-Brown-set-classic-movies-Lets-hope-likes-Wizard-Oz.html
BTW, Chapoutier, you’re wrong (as always) about Brown being blind in just one eye. Yes, he is legally blind in one eye, but the other eye is also going bad.
Sounds like his vision is as bad as your reading comprehension skills.
Or you’re just a dishonest sh*thead lawyer.
I think it’s both, actually.
Agreed. If you are a movie buff, which we can safely say you must be. However, hardly appropriate for a visiting dignitary.
And you wanted to give him Last of the Mohichans. You are cold, atheling. Cold. At least he can listen to the movies.
Propriety to a head of state aside, I hardly think you have to be a movie buff to appreciate the films on that list.
A few things. First, when Chappy says he is “absolutely aware” of anything, it means he has no clue what he is talking about.
Second, the only reason this isn’t making any headway in the MSM “is 1) Chappy and the MSM LOVE Obama and it clouds any semblance of objectivity they have…”
Third, Obama could club baby seals on national TV while eating an “endangered species kabob” and Chappy and his ilk would applaud him and ask why he didn’t have seconds. (Well, maybe this is just point 2a.)
Fourth, Chappy must really be as perverted as he claims to be if he perceives any “sexual tension” between him and the Old WarEagle. To normal people “sexual tension” wouldn’t enter into the exchanges between the two of us. But, then Chappy appears to be a leftist pervert so “normal” has nothing to do with anything. I wonder if he is behind the NAMBLA “hit” on Cuomo?
A) Picking Minion to find gift for head of state
B) Minion has no idea what to get, asks Walmart Greeter for gift ideas
C) Walmart Greeter recommends DVD choises for all tastes in the bargin bin at the Electronics section.
D)Minion rummages said bargin bin for, bargins!
E)Minion takes bargin DVD treasures and thoughtfully places them in old cigar boxes before hiding them on PM Browns plane as a surprise.
Conclusion: Spur of the moment and thoughtless attempt by Urkel to show he is urbane.
You are the one always bringing up my sexual proclivities, WarEagle. I simply assumed it was out of personal interest. You know…like how you pull the pigtail of the girl you really like?I figured that was right around your level.
I guess I lack that appreciation gene.
I once saw a tv show about some pervert serial killer who kept a roomful of kittens and called them “my little ones”.
Reminded me of Chapoutier.
I do object to “Roadhouse” and, of course, “Night of the Living Dead” being omitted from the collection.
I am halfway there! I won’t tell you which half, though.
Really? You don’t like any of those movies?
Appropriate gifts for heads of state aside, you should give On the Waterfront a try.
I think they belong in a different collection, being compiled right now for Her Majesty, along with the Obama bobble head figure as a stocking stuffer.
Didn’t say I didn’t like them, just feel there are more worthy contributions to the arts.
Here is a point that I have not seen anyone mention or point out.
You have the Senior Dimwit in the State Department who is (was?) in charge of the protocol surrounding PM Brown’s visit telling a British newspaper:
which is, in my opinion, just about the worst insult you can give an ally, let alone your best, strongest, and most important ally, possible without actually severing all ties all together.
You have reports coming out about how the Browns and, by extention, England in general were snubbed the entire time, including a dollar store DVD gift set for the Prime Minister and his wife and a couple of toys lifted from the White House gift shop, most assuredly as an after thought, for their children.
Now, can you just imagine, even for a moment, what these two clods were like away from the cameras and reporters? Can you just imagine what was said and done in private when either Brown and MacBeth or Brown and his wife and the Thane of Washington and Lady MacBeth were alone in any part of the White House?
Oh to have been on the plane headed back to England in order to hear everything the Browns, along with the people traveling with them, had to say about the two morons and their staff that usurped the White House in January.
After that, I would absolutely love getting a copy of the tape that was obviously made of the phone call between Prime Minister Brown and HRH Queen Elizabeth that explained all that happened and described just who these two low class knuckle-dragging, mono-syllabic morons are who are supposedly the most intelligent, classy, well spoken humans ever to live at 1600 Pennsylvania. (That’s the address of the White House LGM.) What would be even better would be for PM Brown to have told Her Majesty that he couldn’t possibl do his report justice over the phone, and instead met with the Queen in person and acted everything out, not just telling it.
It had to be impressive for The Queen to so rapidly offer Thane Macbeth to join her for High Tea once they get there. You just know that the entire staff of Buckingham Palace can’t wait for this comedy of errors to embarrass themselves even further in the company of the Queen. After all, look at their comedy. Since this is like a Benny Hill/Black Adder sketch gone awry, they must be chomping at the bit for the G20 conference to begin.
Oh yes…if only they would release transcripts or actual audio or video of the whole thing. Just classic.
And these are the people who called Bush a clod.
Did the collection include PeeWee’s Big Adventure? He was a classic before the arrest…sigh.
Okay…what movies would you include for what head of state?
For example,
Cuba: Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights.
He just wanted a framed, autographed picture of that whole “Peace in Our Time” pronouncement. Figures it will inspire him when he meets with the moderate members of the Taliban, Al Qaeda, Hammas, Kim Jong Il’s government, The Mullahs….
Bambi tries to eat food from the Queens plate while looking at her and saying ”This is spiffy digs you got here, are you going to finish this?” While eyeing her half eaten Bangers and Mash he will frantically look for the TelePrompter for his next line.
That’s tough, though Patriot Games would probably not be a good choice for the Irish Prime Minister.
Oh for Ireland it would have to be The Crying Game.
The thing is, the British GOvernment has treated us like anything BUT crap. They truly have stood by us and up for us when no one else would. Need I remind you about how Tony Blair put his entire career on the line in order to stand up with Bush as well as being the one who sent the most troops with us in the Coalition, with Poland right behind? It arguably cost him his position as Prime Minister. The Queen and the rest of the Roayls are also very supportine of America, and have openly embrased our country for a very long time.
While there are tossers in England who believe that there is no such thing as a bad Muslim to the point that true Brits will be in the minority in London within the next 5 years, if not already,as well as others in Europe who have been acting the fool and completely forgetting why it is they are not all speaking Russian and writing their oppositions to Bush in Cyrillic, the same cannot be said for the British Government or the Royal Family in any way.
So again, it was an insult and slap in the face to England, not necessarily to Prime Minister Brown, other than he was acting as the face and voice of Britain when he was here. For the Obama Administration not to have realized that is truly one of the songle greatest examples of his and their complete and total inadequacy to understand what it means to be the President of the United States, the Leader of the Free World, or how to act in polite society.
Then again, they also just admitted they had no idea just what being President entailed, or that it was such a difficult job. They figured since Bush did it, how hard could it possibly be? It was going to be one big party, and have treated it as such since they won in November.
America elected Miss Pat’s Playroom to run the country. They got exactly what they paid for…and more.
So if the UK is not a “special partner” any longer just who is Obambi going to rely on to support American initiatives around the world? Rwanda? Liechtenstein? Moldova? Are they “special” or just one of 190 other countries?
By the time Obambi and Hillary finish their next “world tour” nobody is going to be speaking to them and we may be on the verge of WW3 but Wal-mart’s sales of DVDs should be through the roof!
I think he’s giving Putin “Dr. Strangelove”
I suspect that
might be a little joke, a sort of “blogging legend”…and not quite accurate.
Sarkozy, “The French Connection” of course
I think Putin as Dr. Evil is more appropriate. Medvedev could play Minime.
Berlusconi – The Godfather
Why would PM Brown want a bust of Richard Chamberlain? That does seem a bit odd…
Castro would definitely have to get “Die Hard”.
Chap
Heh.
Netanyahu – “Lawrence of Arabia”
Braveheart – The Scottish First Minister, though it would probably open a few old wounds.
I just mailed (real mail) my letter to the PM. I thought the Dear Leader was supposed to make the world like us again?!
Re: RetFireman #131 & #138
Good points. Yes, I believe we just insulted the British people. Heads of state do not give other heads of state personal gifts. When gifts are exchanged they are for posterity. We were given the Statue Of Liberty as a gift, we were loaned a bust of Winston Churchill, the desk in the oval office was gifted, etc. Gifts to our President and First Lady are always kept by our country. To give the British people DVDs is incredibly clumsy and tactless (considering the PM is partially blind) and does tell the British people that they are not important to us; not important enough to think of a gift that would highlight our special relationship. It would have been better to have given nothing and perhaps have sent something thoughtful later than to insult them the way we did (by we I mean our representative-Pres. Obama). The PM of our #1 ally came here to visit our head of state during a time of global crises and our head of state was too busy with his more important business to attend to him properly. That pretty much says it all to the British people.
So then we are to understand that the person who was involved with the protocol of this visit who told Britain that they were nothing special and no different than any othe country in the world, like Iran, N. Korea, etc., spent a long time picking out just the right gift and making sure that it was the correct format, and also spent just as long making sure that the brown’s two sons got an appropriate gift, which fortunately was available in the White House Gift Shop for a coupke of bucks…even though it was of the OLD Marine One and not the one he is spending millions of dollars needlessly to replace?
It never, NEVER ceases to amaze me the lengths and bredths that Liberals will go through in order to make excuses for and rationalize their heroes and those they vote for.
Even Cap here, who is NOT a troll and has decent sense I am shocked at.
How can you keep making excuses for, rationalize and justify what happened even after THEY ADMIT that they could care less about England, our relationship with them or what proper protocol is for an official visit from a Head of State…especially when that HoS happens to be our greatest ally? For crying out loud, it is with their own words!
Just wondering how much “Cap” paid you to say this?
You mean like a collection of first run classics from the likes of Twain, Hemmingway etc.? Preferrably leather bound? You mean something like giving a first run edition of the 7 volume biography of Churchill…the guy Obama can’t stand so much as to throw the bust of him back in Brown’s face?
My God…you just don’t get it.
Yes, a set of first run literature is a FAR better gift than a collection of DVD’s. That is something you can treasure, place in your library, and become an heirloom.
How many people feel that way about DVD’s? Hell, scratch them one time and they are done.
Not to mention that the standard DVD format’s days are numbered. With the rapidly lowering prices of Blu-Ray, they will be hard pressed to have these discs be worth more than a couple of bucks in the next year, whereas the books would actually INCREASE in value over time, especially with the history of them having been a gift from one world power to the next.
This is why a moron like Obama got elected, folks. It is because people like these do cannot even grasp the simplest thing about global politics like diplomacy, and they end up electing the guy with the least understanding of all…and who admittedly could care less.
You are so right and the fact is the British have a strong sense of history and symbolism. You can’t buy class and the Obamas are the living proof of that. No amount of Wagyu beef or arugula can change that.
Ret,
WRT to the quote about Britain being “just one of 190.” that is pretty poorly sourced, but I absolutely agree that if someone said that, that person should be fired. I would make no excuse for that kind of comment.
…But as for the stupid DVDs. I am sorry I cannot get as worked up about it as many here.
And I really think the relative monetary value of the gifts, or their value as a long term investment, are terribly relevant.
Not to mention that PM Brown is on record as having stated he in not a fan of film. So he gave him 25 things that he doesn’t even like to begin with. But, since the guys in charge could care less about such things or about England at all…is this a surprise?
Really? Where. I swear I will change my opinion of this entirely if Brown is a well known non-movie buff.
The monetary value of the gift is not relevant but the historic value is. History will show our president giving a slap to the British people.
We give heads of state something that is of value to show respect and trust.
Pres. and Mrs. Obama showed how they felt about the British people.
As for me I do not owe anyone an apology. Voting him out of office and voting someone in who will value that special relationship is the answer.
Maybe we can get Hillary to fly over to where ever these foreigners live and use that “reset button” again?
Do you think anyone at the State Department can translate “reset button” into whatever strange language they speak over there?
Symbolism, or the lack of, is the issue Chap. Though I know you’re shocked, just shocked that anyone could not love the gift of such classics as ET.
On March 10th, 2009 at 4:48 pm,
Excuse me, but I think you have it backwards. Not only are people above right that the gift from HOS to HOS should not be a personal gift, but also, even if that were not true, Brown should have been a well known movie buff IN ORDER TO BE CONSIDERED for such a gift.
You see how that works? If you want to communicate that you like someone, you get them something specifically that you know they LIKE, to please THEM, not something that’s impersonal, cheap and easy to get which they “I didn’t hear from anyone that they’ll hate.”
Brown, who is not known to be a movie buff, gave the president and his children several uniquely historical gifts.
Really?
What is the big deal over ET? I guess ET is a good actress but are her movies that good? What is all this fuss over Emma Thompson. But at least she is British. This is nearly as odd as giving them a bust of Richard Chamerlain who I just found out isn’t even British!
Okay, this over-generalization supposedly explains our position on the matter. However, how do you explain the British and their reaction to Obama’s gift-giving abilities, or the lack thereof?
Right. It’s our fault..no wait..it’s Bush’s fault.
Pretty poorly sourced?
You know, I have actually seen you make sense here in the past, and have even agreed with you on more than one occasion. But as I have continued through this thread, trying to read all the postings, I have completely changed my mind and recant what I said previously…especially after the creepy thing you wrote concerning some mythical tension. You sound so much like a certain North Western insane former professor that I need to remind myself that you couldn’t be that person. However, the simple fact that I am quoting from a direct link concerning this subject that was posted on this site, and that ink just happens to be from the London Telegraph, and you have the actual gall to claim that the quote is “poorly sourced” shows that you are no better than LGM, IHMC or any of the other Liberals that post here.
You are completely uninformed and are speaking purely from yourself and not from any other sources, save maybe any random Liberal site.
You will do/say/write anything you feel necessary to excuse away Obama and his amazingly fast destruction of this nation and everything that it stands for and/or that made it as great as it was. In fact, I would be willing to bet that you hold it that this nation has no business being the last Super Power on the planet, as it gives us an advantage over our enemies, thus what Obama is doing to make us no longer said Super Power is meeting your approval.
You have spent the entire day rationalizing, justifying and excusing a slap to the face of our greatest ally. I don’t care WHO the hell it is that does that, you do not rationalize it.
You, like every other damn Liberal/Leftie/Democrat will go completely ou of the way and into the realm of ridiculous just so you NEVER admit to making a mistake, saying you are wrong, or anything tht could ever reult in showing the least bit of an apology. This entire display of your views today more than meets that point.
Yeah, I am just that disgusted that i have stood up for yo in the past.
To actually have read your stating that my quoted statement was “poorly sourced” without even knowing what the source was or reading the source for yourself, knowing even what the subject is that is being discussed…
well, you have now reached the same level as the others…regardless of if you are the top of that list or not.
If you actually read the links that Michelle has taken the time to actually post on this site, you might actually save yourself embarrassment in the future. I quote only from links Michelle posted from yesterday.
I would like to know, exactly, where it is you got YOUR information from, other than it being your very own opinions and not based on anything but your narrow, biased views. Your twice now statements lend themselves to that belief, for they prove you have not even read up on what the controversy is.
You have exposed yourself as a fraud. Let it go, and just find a new thread.
It’s not the same as the president saying nucular instead of nuclear or misinformated instead of misinformed. This is an insult to our #1 ally! Our president snubbed the British PM and all he could say was he was overwhelmed (besides being shocked at all of the work that crosses the president’s desk on a daily basis). We are embarassed and frightened by something that was complete ineptitude or was an intentional slight/slap in the face.
Again, there are people whose job it is to help the president in these situations. The president chose not to take the advice of those people. The president chose poorly.
I am doing this in the interest that maybe, out of sheer embarassment, someone might pack up and move along.
Both statements have now been “sourced” for you, since you cannot seem to do any research on your own. As you can see, unless you feel the London Telegraph as well as the Daily Mail are not “reputable sources”, you now need to apologize, then move along. Nothing more for you here.
I forgot to mention that I am also waiting for the spin that will attempt to turn the fact he was wrong and needs to apologize and other things, to making it seem that WE were really the ones who A)misunderstood what he was saying, B)He was actually agreeing with us all along, C)The sources are still not reputable…at least not as reputable as Kos/HuffPo D)all of the above.
Errah I heard it was a boxset of the Weather Channel for 1998-2008
Ret,
I read that article long before you just quoted them. I knew exactly what was claimed to have been said. A State Department Official? Who? How high up? Is this person authorized to speak on anything? The vague description of this person does not make you any bit suspicious? That is what I meant by “poorly sourced” and in fact what I believe the common definition of that term is. And I have said in any case that if someone DID say that, they should be held accountable.
I have seen many times the quote where other people have said he is not known to be a movie buff. You said he is on record as not being a fan of film. Not anywhere near the same thing. Rather disingenuous of you. If you can back up YOUR statement, please do so and show me where MM linked to it.
What information have I purported to provide? I gave my opinion that way too much was being made of the gift and alleged snub.
P.S. I have never once quoted Kos or HuffPo. I don’t even read them.
You can go back to not defending me now.
Didn’t you hear? We’re part of the axis of evil now.
Chapoutier does that all the time.
He lies. He misrepresents. He does not read links.
He does this to create red herrings.
He’s very dishonest.
Cute. I did not lie/misrepresent and say that Brown is on record as not liking film when actually the quote says other people have said he is not known as a film buff. I am not either, but it doesn’t mean I don’t like good movies.
I did not lie/misrepresent the source of the “190 countries qoute by changing “a State Department Official involved in the planning” to “Senior Dimwit in the State Department who is (was?) in charge of the protocol”. Where does Ret get the idea this was a senior person?
if you want to point out any lies I have made, please do so.
BTW guys,
just saw a Brit correspondent on FOX, and he could barely contain his outrage.
He also included a long list of “face-slap” BarryTheBum(tm) handed out.
For the Libs here to pretend to cluelessness is a real grin.
Folks, this is all about the immature Leftys payback — you know, as it was in nursery (am I dating myself here?). Somebody slugs you, you see him do it, when you ask him about it, he acts clueless:
“what, me? I didn’t do it…”.
The difference that maturity makes, which the 60s generation (for the most part) lacks is that with maturity you realize the difference between life & grammarschool.
I noticed that these “never-grew-ups” treat everything — incl. politics & world affairs as a giant game. No concept of real people’s lives in danger.
This behavour was evidenced by Chaps attitude in the “Chicago Dems bums-rushes a petitioner” thread. He got into an argument about tresspassers and children, then bent the facts & used lying arguments simply to anger reasonable people. People who were playing it honestly w/him. It is the angering others that gives him his “win” and provides his delight.
You see, folks, to Chap & the rest of the manipulative Leftys, everyone the they (individually, not collectively) are just cardboard cutouts.
Thats why discomfort for them is more important than dismemberment for anyone else — and why they squeal so loudly when their ox is gored. (but he’s another story…)
Agreed.
That’s what I said a week or so ago, when I first heard of this.
I’m not wasting my time with you. Do it yourself, dimbulb.
Everyone here knows you for a liar.
Self edit
There are others, but using the PDA is tiring.
You guys are smart, you’ll figure out what I meant…
Sorry abt the editing, its been a long 3 weeks.
Tell me where I lied or bent facts in that thread.
You mean the reasonable people that think it is okay to threaten to shoot innocent children because they are with their parents who are trespassing? Those reasonable people? It is truly shocking to me that anyone thinks that psycho’s behavior (recall he called human’s the “greatest prey”) with respect to those children, and many other incidents, is defensible.
You got that right. Chapoutier is as dishonest as they come.
That is the sound of atheling backpedaling.
If I pretty much do it all the time shouldn’t be too time consuming to pull up a few example right off this thread, should it?
Here’s one:
You claim that movies are America’s greatest contribution to the arts.
I bring up American Literature.
You then say I want to give the almost blind PM a gift of books.
See? You’re either the stupidest twit ever to walk this planet, or just an ass who twists and perverts what people say.
Idiot.
I wouldn’t be in the least surprised, RF.
You and I are on the “same side”.
My point is that I looked on the internet a couple of times in an unsuccessful attempt to pre-empt a challenge to that statement (should it ever be posted),…and came up dry, as far as a definite source is concerned.
BTW, I don’t believe that you’re a lawyer.
No one as stupid as you could EVER make it through law school.
Oh wait! My bad! Your Idiot in Chief is a lawyer.
No. I said arguably. Which I think is true. many other countries have produced great literature. America is second to none in its production of great film.
You said this:
I indeed thought you meant that you thought a collection of America’s greatest literature would be more appropriate. Maybe not what you meant, but not disingenuous. And you had plenty of opportunity to correct me before now. Why didn’t you.
Don’t wory about that guys feelings – the guy is like Blair, an American poodle.
Chapoutier:
You’re lying again. So shut up.
How?
Folks,
See, when people point out the man behind the curtain, suddenly the macking tone leaves his posts, and they become “I didn’t do it! ProveI did it!”
What will happen, if any unfortunate falls for the bait, is some variation of the “you misunderstood” gambit; whether it takes the form of “out-of-context” claims, the “poorly sourced” claim or my personal favorite, the “your hate/anger/sorrow/ignorance blinds you” claim.
The proper response to someone who twists everything is to simply say:
I’ll let every passerby read our posts and decide who’s honest. I am confident that they will see who is playing games.
Awwww….poor fella being asked to put up or shut up but then running behind a cute little phrase you could just imagine being sewn onto a needlepoint sampler as his justification for either being too lazy or too disingenuous to do so. Cute.
Was that mocking enough for you, mike?
Some more mock for mike, since he seems to enjoy it so:
Curious neither atheling or mike have come out to roundly condemn Ret’s clear lies/misrepresentations, as pointed out in #176.
Since, you know, they are both all about the intellectual honesty.
ARRRRRGHHHHHH Matey! The Ghost of Davey Jones summons you to walk the plank!!
(But I never figured out why one of ‘The Monkeys‘ had anything to do with the ocean though. hmmmm)
No, you are right Chap…both of those newspapers made the whole thing up. They never talked to anyone and only made these things up as par of the Global Conservative Right-Wing Conspiracy to embarrass, lie, twist and destroy such an honest, kind, gentle human being who only wants to make sure this country maintains the basis that it was founded on.
You disingenuous, lying piece of ….
You are done. You can go ahead and attempt to talk to/with me but from here on out, it will be as if your posts do not exist.
You not only lie, not only did you do EXACTLY what I stated you would do having been shown to be what you are, but you continue to lie, twist, spin etc. in a weak effort to appear tat you were correct the whole time and it is everyone else.
I only am embarrassed for actually having stuck up for you a couple of times in the past. It was my fault for not paying close enough attention to all your posts, as I did on this thread.
You are nothing more than a standard, everyday, run of the mill Liberal complete with the same tactics and circular logic/reasoning that is so deeply ingrained and inherent in the Neo-Lib of the modern day.
Rather than admitting you are wrong, apologizing for being wrong, you just keep on spinning and lying. And not only that, you even attempt to claim to VERY reputable news sources are LYING and libeling themselves. Simply amazing. These were actual, reputable sources, not the ones you are used to such as Kos, DU, HuffPo, what’s left of AirAmerica, Michael Moore or whatever “progressive” website you gather your “information” from, when you actually do get any.
Have fun being relegated to the same pile of jokes that LGM, IHMC, MJ and the rest of the window-lickers are on, but I am done with you.
I knew it was a joke, as was my saying he wanted to use “Peace in Our Time. I was running with it.
My lies and mis-reps? I know I said I was done, but that there is some funny stuff.
Again, anyone can read the whole thread to see just who was lying, twisting, spinning etc.
The entire tone of your posts now are nothing short of someone who is backpeddaling and trying to regain whatever ounce of credibility they thought they had.
Good luck with that, but the written word is here for all to see. Kinda hard to go back and change what you wrote now.
Damn…I even stood up for this guy like 3 or 4 times in the past. Must be getting old.
Idiot. I didn’t say they made it up. I said they never told us who actually said it. THTAT IS WHAT “POORLY SOURCED” MEANS YOU IMBECILE! Administrations are big and there are a lot of players, from lowly gophers to Secretary Clinton. This paper that cited this “official” wouldn’t even ascribe a level to this person? If you knew anything about journalism, you would know this probably means the person that said this is a nobody. But then you lie about it being the senior official in charge of protocol, when the article gave no indication of that whatsoever. You simply made that up.
Why did you say Brown was on record as not liking movies and then linking to a quote that said something very very different? The source you provided was not Brown on record and did not say he did not like movies. You lied about both aspects.
Please explain your entirely obvious lies or shut the hell up.
And believe me, I am not sorry to lose the support of an actual lying piece of crap like you.
Let me take this one separately. Show me where I said any source was lying. I said you lied about what the sources said, which is true on its face. So, ironically, this is yet another lie of yours.
Also, if you can point to one single post where I have ever authoritatively cited something from Kos, DU, HuffPo, Air America, or Michael Moore, not only on this thread but on any thread ever, I will bow down and worship you and renounce all ties to the Democratic Party. But let me save you the trouble. You won’t find it because I have never done it. It is yet another lie by you. Jeez. This is almost pathological.
That is at least 5 verifiable lies by you. Yet all you have to throw at me are amorphous accusations and not a single actual example.
Pa-freaking-thetic. And Trans-freaking-parent.
Let me predict what will be in the next the next post:
Blah blah blah you are such a liar you lie all the time you are such a lawyer but i cant really believe you are a lawyer liberals lie blah blah kos talking points twist words you think obama is god will rationalize any action lie disingenuous blah HuffPo blah did i mention you are a lawyer blah.
Let me now predict what will NOT be in the next post:
Admitting and explaining why you have verifiably lied at least 5 times by my count.