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	<title>Comments on: Pressuring Democrats over automatic pay raises; 6:10pm Eastern: Reid tries to beat back pay raise issue; Vitter effort defeated, 52-45</title>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Speaking of outrageous bonuses for incompetent performance&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/03/10/pressuring-democrats-over-automatic-pay-raises/comment-page-1/#comment-649904</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Speaking of outrageous bonuses for incompetent performance&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] after the Senate refused to give up automatic pay increases  for themselves and Nancy Pelosi refused to give the measure a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Speaking of outrageous bonuses for incompetent performance&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Speaking of outrageous bonuses for incompetent performance&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] after the Senate refused to give up automatic pay increases  for themselves and Nancy Pelosi refused to give the measure a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: oneisnotprime</title>
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		<dc:creator>oneisnotprime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Red State Skeptic.  Raise Congress&#039; salaries significantly to attract non-career politicians, then let Congress pay for ALL their own perks (including ridiculously oversized groups of aides and assistants) out of their own salary so they won&#039;t spend recklessly.

I&#039;d even like to see Congress (and other federal employees on down the line) keep a percentage of any savings when spending comes in under the previous year, then we&#039;d really see some cost cutting--and we wouldn&#039;t have ridiculous cases of $100M corruption over a $100k &lt;strike&gt;bribe&lt;/strike&gt; campaign contribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Red State Skeptic.  Raise Congress&#8217; salaries significantly to attract non-career politicians, then let Congress pay for ALL their own perks (including ridiculously oversized groups of aides and assistants) out of their own salary so they won&#8217;t spend recklessly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d even like to see Congress (and other federal employees on down the line) keep a percentage of any savings when spending comes in under the previous year, then we&#8217;d really see some cost cutting&#8211;and we wouldn&#8217;t have ridiculous cases of $100M corruption over a $100k <strike>bribe</strike> campaign contribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Vitter vetting greed. - The Angry White Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vitter vetting greed. - The Angry White Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Congress&#8217; &#8220;Perk-o-Matic&#8221; drips with pork for self &#171; The Take from Tejas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Congress&#8217; &#8220;Perk-o-Matic&#8221; drips with pork for self &#171; The Take from Tejas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Congress&#8217; &#8220;Perk-o-Matic&#8221; drips with pork for&#160;self   Congress has been receiving pay increases most years under a formula set into law 20 years ago. At a time when so many Americans are losing their jobs and struggling to pay their mortgages, these raises just aren’t right. Senator David Vitter [...]</description>
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		<title>By: cheapseat</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheapseat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the u.s. gdp will be less than 10 trillion dollars this year, and the federal governments budget will be 3.5 trillion.  so a fair tax for every single american is 35% of their pay.  you want to feed the pig, you should pay for the slop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the u.s. gdp will be less than 10 trillion dollars this year, and the federal governments budget will be 3.5 trillion.  so a fair tax for every single american is 35% of their pay.  you want to feed the pig, you should pay for the slop.</p>
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		<title>By: reshas1</title>
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		<dc:creator>reshas1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grade Obama..
http://www.polls.newsvine.com/_question/2009/03/10/2528064-midway-through-his-first-100-days-how-would-you-rate-barack-obama?GT1=43001</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grade Obama..<br />
<a href="http://www.polls.newsvine.com/_question/2009/03/10/2528064-midway-through-his-first-100-days-how-would-you-rate-barack-obama?GT1=43001" rel="nofollow">http://www.polls.newsvine.com/_question/2009/03/10/2528064-midway-through-his-first-100-days-how-would-you-rate-barack-obama?GT1=43001</a></p>
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		<title>By: marsouin</title>
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		<dc:creator>marsouin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American social democrats have cried about the excessive pay of CEO&#039;s, now it&#039;a about time Congress, which recently won a raise on already lavish pay and perks, be scrutinized as well. The damn hypocrites. Why not have Congressional and White House pay tied to social and economic barometers such as crime, employment, and GDP growth? Make the bastards responsible for their actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American social democrats have cried about the excessive pay of CEO&#8217;s, now it&#8217;a about time Congress, which recently won a raise on already lavish pay and perks, be scrutinized as well. The damn hypocrites. Why not have Congressional and White House pay tied to social and economic barometers such as crime, employment, and GDP growth? Make the bastards responsible for their actions.</p>
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		<title>By: L.N. Smithee</title>
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		<dc:creator>L.N. Smithee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red State Skeptic wrote: &lt;blockquote&gt;As to the man: he should resign. Conservatives should be crying for his resignation from rooftops everywhere. I repeat: what hypocrisy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You were asleep in Civics class, so let me give you a head&#039;s up: Nobody can &lt;em&gt;make &lt;/em&gt;a politician resign if s/he doesn&#039;t want to go, isn&#039;t recalled by the electorate, and can&#039;t be legally removed.  The GOP tried to dump Larry Craig, but he wouldn&#039;t leave, and finally he dumped himself.  Vitter replaced Bob Livingston, who was in line to become Speaker of the House but resigned after his extramarital affair was revealed for Larry Flynt cash.  After drunk-driving off a bridge and leaving a young woman to drown in his car, Ted Kennedy was pressured to resign by the Dems ...&lt;em&gt; psych! &lt;/em&gt; 

(If that guy&#039;s going to be a British Knight, I say we trump it by starting a movement to beatify Mary Jo Kopechne. But I digress...)

Would I rather someone else be representative of my values than a confessed whoremonger? Of course.  Am I going to throw away a good idea because he was the source of it if nobody else is going to step up to the plate?  Of course NOT.

 &lt;blockquote&gt;Congressional salaries are a drop in the bucket, no matter how big the budget is. We need competent servants, not partisan hacks who only pursue politics to augment their stature. Free market, self-interest guy that I am, I think it would be more than reasonable to give people an economic incentive to pursue politics. 90% of kids out of top colleges want that big money and would be crazy to pursue a career as a legislator. It’s amazing to me that congressional salaries total less than a hundred million dollars. Shouldn’t the body that’s entrusted with allocating a budget of $3 trillion (last year) be paid at least a billion?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Are you suggesting &quot;kids out of college&quot; would be more likely to be &quot;competent servants&quot; and not &quot;partisan hacks&quot;?  What&#039;s your point of reference for such an opinion?  And you&#039;re acting as if the POWER that money follows is not incentive enough for those greedy grads.

Your self-description as a &quot;free-market guy&quot; is betrayed by your argument, which sounds like those of teachers&#039; unions who say people who would be the best teachers go into private enterprise because teachers&#039; pay is so low.  The reason the pay is relatively paltry is simple:  When you are excellent and do a great job in private industry, your services are at a premium because more money comes in due to your performance.  That&#039;s free market. OTOH, salaries for public schools come from budgets that are finite.  That&#039;s &lt;em&gt;government&lt;/em&gt;. 

Does more money come into a school district when the teachers are better?  Nope.  Does &lt;i&gt;less&lt;/i&gt; money come in when the teachers suck?  Nope -- in fact, the argument is often made that the more a school district sucks, the more money should be shoveled into it.  Can you reward better teachers for their excellence?  Nope - the union don&#039;t play that.  Can you fire teachers who suck without an arcane, Olympian legal struggle?  Nope.  Will any of those things change if the teachers are paid better?  Why would they?


Vitter is being smarter than he was when he hooked up with hookers.  He&#039;s holding a mirror to the hypocrites sliming bonuses for driving businesses into the ground and saying &quot;You&#039;re raising your salaries while raising taxes, simultaneously saying &#039;We &lt;em&gt;all &lt;/em&gt;have to sacrifice ... including me.&#039; So let&#039;s pay up.&quot; 

One last thing: The submortgage crisis that spurred the recession should have taught us all about &quot;drops in the bucket&quot;: What water there is in the bucket is made up of drops too numerous to count, but when &lt;em&gt;everyone &lt;/em&gt;wastes drops without counting, eventually the bucket &lt;em&gt;will &lt;/em&gt;be emptied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red State Skeptic wrote:<br />
<blockquote>As to the man: he should resign. Conservatives should be crying for his resignation from rooftops everywhere. I repeat: what hypocrisy.</p></blockquote>
<p>You were asleep in Civics class, so let me give you a head&#8217;s up: Nobody can <em>make </em>a politician resign if s/he doesn&#8217;t want to go, isn&#8217;t recalled by the electorate, and can&#8217;t be legally removed.  The GOP tried to dump Larry Craig, but he wouldn&#8217;t leave, and finally he dumped himself.  Vitter replaced Bob Livingston, who was in line to become Speaker of the House but resigned after his extramarital affair was revealed for Larry Flynt cash.  After drunk-driving off a bridge and leaving a young woman to drown in his car, Ted Kennedy was pressured to resign by the Dems &#8230;<em> psych! </em> </p>
<p>(If that guy&#8217;s going to be a British Knight, I say we trump it by starting a movement to beatify Mary Jo Kopechne. But I digress&#8230;)</p>
<p>Would I rather someone else be representative of my values than a confessed whoremonger? Of course.  Am I going to throw away a good idea because he was the source of it if nobody else is going to step up to the plate?  Of course NOT.</p>
<blockquote><p>Congressional salaries are a drop in the bucket, no matter how big the budget is. We need competent servants, not partisan hacks who only pursue politics to augment their stature. Free market, self-interest guy that I am, I think it would be more than reasonable to give people an economic incentive to pursue politics. 90% of kids out of top colleges want that big money and would be crazy to pursue a career as a legislator. It’s amazing to me that congressional salaries total less than a hundred million dollars. Shouldn’t the body that’s entrusted with allocating a budget of $3 trillion (last year) be paid at least a billion?</p></blockquote>
<p>Are you suggesting &#8220;kids out of college&#8221; would be more likely to be &#8220;competent servants&#8221; and not &#8220;partisan hacks&#8221;?  What&#8217;s your point of reference for such an opinion?  And you&#8217;re acting as if the POWER that money follows is not incentive enough for those greedy grads.</p>
<p>Your self-description as a &#8220;free-market guy&#8221; is betrayed by your argument, which sounds like those of teachers&#8217; unions who say people who would be the best teachers go into private enterprise because teachers&#8217; pay is so low.  The reason the pay is relatively paltry is simple:  When you are excellent and do a great job in private industry, your services are at a premium because more money comes in due to your performance.  That&#8217;s free market. OTOH, salaries for public schools come from budgets that are finite.  That&#8217;s <em>government</em>. </p>
<p>Does more money come into a school district when the teachers are better?  Nope.  Does <i>less</i> money come in when the teachers suck?  Nope &#8212; in fact, the argument is often made that the more a school district sucks, the more money should be shoveled into it.  Can you reward better teachers for their excellence?  Nope &#8211; the union don&#8217;t play that.  Can you fire teachers who suck without an arcane, Olympian legal struggle?  Nope.  Will any of those things change if the teachers are paid better?  Why would they?</p>
<p>Vitter is being smarter than he was when he hooked up with hookers.  He&#8217;s holding a mirror to the hypocrites sliming bonuses for driving businesses into the ground and saying &#8220;You&#8217;re raising your salaries while raising taxes, simultaneously saying &#8216;We <em>all </em>have to sacrifice &#8230; including me.&#8217; So let&#8217;s pay up.&#8221; </p>
<p>One last thing: The submortgage crisis that spurred the recession should have taught us all about &#8220;drops in the bucket&#8221;: What water there is in the bucket is made up of drops too numerous to count, but when <em>everyone </em>wastes drops without counting, eventually the bucket <em>will </em>be emptied.</p>
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		<title>By: AlohaGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlohaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If only his colleagues (and right-wing bloggers) were so principled.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you Googled the quotation, you&#039;d discover it was a principled right-wing blogger who wrote it.

And yeah, no way someone would know what was happening in their basement.  If Frank is that clueless, you might expect him to be that clueless about banks and mortgages...</description>
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<p>If you Googled the quotation, you&#8217;d discover it was a principled right-wing blogger who wrote it.</p>
<p>And yeah, no way someone would know what was happening in their basement.  If Frank is that clueless, you might expect him to be that clueless about banks and mortgages&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Tea Party is Here: Mr. President - We didn&#8217;t ask for socialism! &#171; Jim Blazsik</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Tea Party is Here: Mr. President - We didn&#8217;t ask for socialism! &#171; Jim Blazsik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pay Raises for Me, But Not for Thee &#171; Retake Education</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pay Raises for Me, But Not for Thee &#171; Retake Education</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Raises for Me, But Not for&#160;Thee Michelle Malkin highlights the coming battle over Sen. David Vitter&#8217;s amendment to the $410 billion spending bill that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Retake Education</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retake Education</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Pay Raises for Me, But Not for&#160;Thee...&lt;/strong&gt;

Pay raises for me, but not for Thee
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Pay Raises for Me, But Not for&nbsp;Thee&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Pay raises for me, but not for Thee<br />
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		<title>By: Savage24</title>
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		<dc:creator>Savage24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This will never fly! Here in New Mexico the state government couldn&#039;t pass a ethics reform bill, but they passed a bill to raise their retirement pay.Politicians are out of touch with the voters not only at the federal level, but all the way down the line. Revolution is the only answer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will never fly! Here in New Mexico the state government couldn&#8217;t pass a ethics reform bill, but they passed a bill to raise their retirement pay.Politicians are out of touch with the voters not only at the federal level, but all the way down the line. Revolution is the only answer!</p>
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		<title>By: Red State Skeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red State Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Speaking of hypocrisy - are you also demanding Barney Frank resign?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I love Barney.  I believe that he had no knowledge that his boyfriend was running an escort service out of his apartment because that was the only time you ever heard a story like that out of him.  Senator Vitter on the other hand...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Speaking of hypocrisy &#8211; are you also demanding Barney Frank resign?</p></blockquote>
<p>I love Barney.  I believe that he had no knowledge that his boyfriend was running an escort service out of his apartment because that was the only time you ever heard a story like that out of him.  Senator Vitter on the other hand&#8230;</p>
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