Muslim TV exec pleads not guilty in wife beheading

By Michelle Malkin  •  March 13, 2009 07:56 PM

There’s an update in the case of the barbaric Muslim beheading in Buffalo. Accused murderer Muzzammil Hassan has pleaded not guilty of the crime.

Let me guess: It’s Bush’s fault. The infidels’ fault. The Jews’ fault.

Or: He was just redistributing life. Preserving the family honor. Glorifying Allah.

Details of the plea:

The founder of a Muslim-American television station pleaded not guilty Friday to beheading his estranged wife.

Muzzammil “Mo” Hassan, 44, is charged with one count of second-degree murder for the Feb. 12 death of 37-year-old Aasiya Hassan at the offices of Bridges TV in the suburb of Orchard Park.

The Pakistani-born businessman, who has been in custody since reporting his wife’s death soon after it happened, remained held without bail.

“The proof of guilt in this case is strong,” prosecutor Colleen Curtin Gable told Erie County Judge Thomas Franczyk. She cited alleged admissions, forensic evidence and “strong motive evidence.” Aasiya Hassan was stabbed multiple times and decapitated less than a week after having her husband served with divorce papers.

…The case against Hassan is striking in its irony. Muzzammil and Aasiya Hassan launched the Bridges TV network in 2004, saying they wanted to counter negative stereotypes and media portrayals of Muslims.

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  1. #648214
    On March 13th, 2009 at 8:01 pm, love2rumba said:

    May he get what he gave his wife ASAP.

  2. #648216
    On March 13th, 2009 at 8:04 pm, Khyris said:

    WTF does “alleged admissions” mean?

    If he ADMITTED it, it’s no longer merely alleged!

  3. #648217
    On March 13th, 2009 at 8:05 pm, zorro said:

    Roast the ba$tard!

  4. #648223
    On March 13th, 2009 at 8:30 pm, Bear said:

    Why 2nd Degree?? Sounds as if it should have been 1st degree. Or is it because the perp is a Muslim?

  5. #648225
    On March 13th, 2009 at 8:37 pm, revolution said:

    He’ll become a master recruiter of jihadists when he goes to prison.

    Can any legal people on this forum explain why this is 2nd degree? There is obviously premeditation and physical evidence.

  6. #648227
    On March 13th, 2009 at 8:41 pm, puhiawa said:

    Innocent of civilized behavior. Muslim Law.

  7. #648228
    On March 13th, 2009 at 8:41 pm, havok said:

    C’mon…somtimes peoples heads just fall off. Give the poor guy a break.

  8. #648230
    On March 13th, 2009 at 8:42 pm, RogerCfromSD said:

    “redistributing life”

    heh heh

  9. #648239
    On March 13th, 2009 at 8:55 pm, katablog said:

    Racist! (I borrowed that from Maxine, she won’t mind).

  10. #648244
    On March 13th, 2009 at 9:03 pm, mjk said:

    havok:
    I was just coming in to say the same thing. I don’t know if we’re both horrible people or what..

  11. #648245
    On March 13th, 2009 at 9:03 pm, twofoot said:

    Second degree? Why? Does second degree avoid the possibility of a needle in the arm?

  12. #648246
    On March 13th, 2009 at 9:04 pm, Send_Me said:

    I think I might just watch “Hang ‘Em High” tonight.

  13. #648247
    On March 13th, 2009 at 9:04 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    On March 13th, 2009 at 8:30 pm, Bear said:

    Why 2nd Degree?? Sounds as if it should have been 1st degree. Or is it because the perp is a Muslim?

    Its because the perp is in western New York and the perp as money. LOT$ of money.The DA and the vast majority of the politicians in the area are corrupt NY demo₵rats.

    Is there a need to paint a picture here?

  14. #648256
    On March 13th, 2009 at 9:27 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    His wife was both muslim and women (?) so where are the muslim groups and women’s groups? Lying hypocrites.

    Talking to a man from NY–I guess First Degree Murder is Murder for Hire or Murder Special Circumstance. They both get 25 to life as Capital Punishment in NY is almost a none issue.

    Too bad the murderer Muzzammil Hassan did not do his evil deed in Georgia, Florida, Texas or Arizona. But the Not Guilty plea intrigues me: the Islamophobia Defense?

    Honor Killings are at least tacitly accepted in the muslim countries–Western Imperialist Pork Eaters can not judge muslim men (using the term Men loosely)?


    Keep the change-I’ll keep my guns

  15. #648261
    On March 13th, 2009 at 9:35 pm, beenthere said:

    Let’s not forget “depressed.”

  16. #648262
    On March 13th, 2009 at 9:35 pm, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    I don’t know why everyone is so upset here. After all, a Muslim cleric just last year said that women were nothing but clothed meat.

  17. #648267
    On March 13th, 2009 at 9:43 pm, Mookie said:

    On March 13th, 2009 at 9:27 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    His wife was both muslim and women (?) so where are the muslim groups and women’s groups? Lying hypocrites.

    Here’s a press release from NOW:

    On February 12, 2009, in Orchard Park, Buffalo, NY, forty-four year-old Muzzamil Hassan, a prominent Muslim businessman, was arrested for having allegedly beheaded his wife, thirty-seven year-old Aasiya Z. Hassan. What was Aasiya’s crime? Why, Aasiya was having Muzzamil served with divorce papers. And apparently, on February 6, Aasiya obtained an order of protection which had forced her violent husband out of their home.

    NOW New York State is horrified that Erie County DA, Frank A. SeditaII, has referred to this ghastly crime as “the worst form of domestic violence possible.” The ridiculous juxtaposition of “domestic” and “beheading” in the same journalistic breath points up the inherent weakness of the whole “domestic violence” lexicon.

    What is “domestic” about this violence? NOW NYS President Marcia Pappas says “it is high time we stop regarding assaults and murders as a lover’s quarrels gone bad. We further demand of lawmakers that punishments fit crimes. We of NOW decry the selective enforcement of assault laws and call for judicial enforcement of our mandatory arrest policy, even when the axe-wielder is known by his victim.”

    And why is this horrendous story not all over the news? Is a Muslim woman’s life not worth a five-minute report? This was, apparently, a terroristic version of “honor killing,” a murder rooted in cultural notions about women’s subordination to men. Are we now so respectful of the Muslim’s religion that we soft-peddle atrocities committed in it’s name? Millions of women in this country are maimed and killed by their husbands or partners. Had this awful murder been perpetrated by a African American, a Latino, a Jew, or a Catholic, the story would be flooding the airwaves. What is this deafening silence?

    And exactly what do orders of protection do? Was Aasiya desperately waving the order of protection in Muzzamil’s face when he slashed at her throat? Was it still clutched in her hand as her head hit the floor?

    You of the press, please shine a light on this most dreadful of murders. In a bizarre twist of fate it comes out that Muzzamil Hassan is founder of a television network called Bridges TV, whose purpose it was to portray Muslims in a positive light. This a huge story. Please tell it!

  18. #648275
    On March 13th, 2009 at 9:48 pm, twofoot said:

    publiuswarmac9999 said:
    I don’t know why everyone is so upset here. After all, a Muslim cleric just last year said that women were nothing but clothed meat.

    Yea, I guess when you put it that way, it puts it all in perspective.

  19. #648287
    On March 13th, 2009 at 10:11 pm, right_on said:

    Accused murderer Muzzammil Hassan has pleaded not guilty of the crime.

    And he is not guilty because, for a brief mo(hammed)ment, he just lost his head….

  20. #648289
    On March 13th, 2009 at 10:22 pm, rfjjulie said:

    I say bullets are cheap (if you can find them). Let’s hope he’s got horny Bubba for a cell mate.

  21. #648307
    On March 13th, 2009 at 11:01 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    On March 13th, 2009 at 8:30 pm, Bear said:

    Why 2nd Degree?? Sounds as if it should have been 1st degree. Or is it because the perp is a Muslim?

    Probably because he actually reported it to the police.

    Regardless, this scum will be someone’s b!tch in prison.

  22. #648309
    On March 13th, 2009 at 11:03 pm, RedRepub said:

    Wasn’t there a case similar to this a few years ago?

    An anthropologist testified that honor killings were just how that culture reacted to their environment. So instead of getting the death penalty, the defendant got 5 years probation.

    Remember diversity- culture is sacred! So if Muslims (a different culture) beleive women should be covered up and be beheaded if they are caught reading a book, it’s not a crime. it’s die-versity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  23. #648313
    On March 13th, 2009 at 11:13 pm, zyzzyg said:

    Is this am invitation to guess why he decapitated his wife?

    No, it was not Pres Bush’s fault.
    No, it was not the infidels’ fault.
    No, it was not the Jews Fault.
    No, he was was not redistributing life.
    No, he was not preserving the family’s honor.
    No, he was not was not gloryfing Allah.

    Ok. Ok. My guess, speculation, and assignation of motive was that his wife, Aasiya Hassan, bought into the liberal principles of women’s rights, and he could not handle it.

    Yep, that is my guess. She, Aasiya Hassan, believed and accepted the self determinination of the 14th Ammendment of the Constitution, she lived and practiced Equal Rights, she was a woman who roared and he is a man tok weak to accept that reality.

    Yep, that is my guess. He was just a weak man who couldn’t deal with a strong independant women of strength who had a mind of her own.

    OK, we’re guessing. What is everyone else’s guess?

  24. #648314
    On March 13th, 2009 at 11:18 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    An obvious case of suicide by self-decapitation. Stabbing herself in the back fifty times didn’t get the job done.

    Naturally, why do people always jump to the conclusion that the husband did it?

  25. #648319
    On March 13th, 2009 at 11:25 pm, Perk said:

    I can not believe the reaction to this post! There is really no question.
    Of course, it was G.W. Bush’s fault!
    The husband was driven to it! or, it was really, really, really difficult to say I divorce you, three times.
    Or (sorry, just thought of this one), the stress of acting like a normal human being while being a jihadist radical got to him.

  26. #648322
    On March 13th, 2009 at 11:35 pm, bjc said:

    *Violence against women is just plain reprehensible, no question about it; But we need to remember this man was raised in and adheres to a 7th century invented religion of death cult savages; We must not take our eye off the ball; It is in their DNA, and unfortunately, women will never be truly free and equal in that environment.

  27. #648327
    On March 13th, 2009 at 11:45 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    2nd degree charge is probably because it happened in the heat of the moment so not premeditated. He still deserves the maximum sentence without parole.

    Khyris, I wondered about the stupidity of that statement too; Then I remembered it was written by an illustrious member of the MSM.(That would be Muslim Supplicant Media).

    I’m no middle-eastern expert but maybe, just maybe the dearth of available women that drives young Muslim men to become terrorists is the result of all the “honor” (cravenly) killings? Maybe.

  28. #648332
    On March 13th, 2009 at 11:53 pm, EMT Bill said:

    The charge is 2nd degree murder because New York State’s death penalty was struck down my the state’s highest court. A charge of 1st degree murder is a capital charge, and currently there is no capital punishment. 2nd degree murder is the highest charge currently possible.

  29. #648345
    On March 14th, 2009 at 12:13 am, 31Bravo said:

    My guess on the second degree filing is that they are going to call it a crime in the heat of passion rather than a premeditated, lying in wait sort of thing.

    Meaning basically he got served the papers, they got in an argument and he committed the murder on the spur of the moment. I don’t know the exact circumstance of the case but that would be my educated guess based on my law enforcement background.

    Now if he knew all this was coming down and waited for her to get home, butcher knife in hand, then you have a whole different thing.

    So the DA is going to typically file on the elements of the crime he knows he can prove in court. So most likely the elements he has based on the investigation don’t support malice aforethought. Thus a second degree charge.

  30. #648351
    On March 14th, 2009 at 12:23 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    He was just practicing “Liberation Theology”.

    /obvious sarc

  31. #648376
    On March 14th, 2009 at 1:24 am, Joy said:

    I see… so he calls the police shortly after his crime and tells them he did it, and now pleads ‘not guilty.’

    I will never understand our so-called Justice system.

  32. #648379
    On March 14th, 2009 at 1:39 am, havok said:

    On March 13th, 2009 at 9:03 pm, mjk said:
    havok:
    I was just coming in to say the same thing. I don’t know if we’re both horrible people or what..

    Oh…we are bad….

  33. #648385
    On March 14th, 2009 at 1:51 am, jrgdds said:

    If Islam is the religion of love and peace why do they keep beheading people?

  34. #648389
    On March 14th, 2009 at 2:04 am, frontierguy said:

    Are we now so respectful of the Muslim’s religion that we soft-peddle atrocities committed in it’s name?

    Yes NOW, where have you been? Do you not read news from Europe?

    He was just a weak man who couldn’t deal with a strong independant women of strength who had a mind of her own.

    I agree, but I think the big point here is how the media is not making a big deal out of it, or other honor killings taking place in our country. Journalists should be questioning the NY justice system and publicly asking politicians what they plan to do to discourage other incidents. Like would they have a problem adding multipliers to crimes that have to do with religion. They already have laws that presume what is in people’s minds when they perform “hate crimes”. Unfortunately we know that journalists do not do their jobs anymore.

    This is a country where we have already rightfully decided that women have the right to be independent. If we let this man get away with a sentence of justice (2nd degree murder, probably something like possible parole in 5 yrs or something) that does not turn him into an example, then we have let down every woman in the U.S. who may be a prisoner of fear in their homes due to religious ideology.

    If this man had merely stabbed his wife to death, we would have read it and not even thought twice about the fact that he is a Muslim. It is another guy who killed his wife, it is a shame and we would have moved on. Maybe saw the incident again on a Forensic Files show and remembered, oh yeah I read about that. The fact that he cut her head off is bizarre. The fact that New York is walking on egg shells for this guy is more bizarre and disturbing. The big question is why New York and the media is doing this, it begs for investigation into their motives.

  35. #648397
    On March 14th, 2009 at 2:52 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    I don’t see how he could be found guilty. His wife just slipped on a wet T.V. station hallway floor and fell on a carelessly placed butcher knife 17 times. Happens all the time in jihadi countries.
    ***
    Darn those ceramic tile floors, user unfriendly knives, and dangerous slippery detergents.
    ***
    The ACLU will start some lawsuits against the companies responsible for this regrettable accident soon.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  36. #648400
    On March 14th, 2009 at 3:27 am, yohannbiimu said:

    OH-MY-GOD!!! Can you possibly imagine what it would mean if this guy does not get the book thrown at him, and actually gets OFF? You KNOW that the Sharia Law advocates are praying 50 times a day to their moon god that this guy succeeds, and that their religion prevails in this. You KNOW that they want their barbaric customs to become THE law everywhere, so that they can treat women like anything else that they own.

    What OUGHT to happen (upon his conviction) is that they execute him, and bury him along with swine carcasses, and anything else that they can find that Muslims find repulsive. THAT will send the proper message about what happens when you practice your disgusting 7th century customs in a civilized country.

  37. #648413
    On March 14th, 2009 at 5:38 am, frontierguy said:

    Yohannbiimu, I totally agree. General Pershing quelled the Muslim violence in the Phillipines by capturing a group of Muslim terrorists, killing all but one and shoving the cadavers in a hole and then filling it with pigs blood. The survivor Pershing told to go and tell his Muslim friends what had just happened. The Phillipines were Muslim violence free for over 50 years after that. Now that we have grown soft, the Muslims are back to dirty tricks there and everywhere.

  38. #648438
    On March 14th, 2009 at 7:29 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    It’s ~interesting~ that he pled “not guilty”. This case had ‘plea bargain’ written all over it IMO. He has the ‘culturally sensitive’ silent MSM on his side; a liberal DA who would look like a hero to declare him mentally unfit for trial and he already publicly admitted doing the crime anyway. So why no plea deal?

    Is it possible that this Muzzammil “Mo” Hassan is SO hateful of women, SO indignant that we don’t grasp his point of view that women are disposable property, that even dhimmi liberals are disgusted with him?

    I’m soooo happy to see a female prosecutor. Maybe she should wear a veil just to drive home the point of how different things are here versus Pakistan?

    Hmmm? Will she be allowed to challenge Muslim males during the jury selection? I hope this doesn’t end up having an OJ jury selection circus…

  39. #648455
    On March 14th, 2009 at 8:42 am, WarTip said:

    The case against Hassan is striking in its irony. Muzzammil and Aasiya Hassan launched the Bridges TV network in 2004, saying they wanted to counter negative stereotypes and media portrayals of Muslims.

    Yeah, but if I am not mistaken, this may be stereotypical but it is not negative in most Muslim societies?

  40. #648467
    On March 14th, 2009 at 9:13 am, jangar said:

    zyzzyg said:
    OK, we’re guessing. What is everyone else’s guess?

    Uh…muslim beheads wife…sounds like the usual muslim thing. Not much to read into it. Somewhere in the Koran it probably gives the directive.

  41. #648469
    On March 14th, 2009 at 9:15 am, jangar said:

    they wanted to counter negative stereotypes and media portrayals of Muslims.

    Nice try Muzzi, but you lost that inner struggle.

  42. #648472
    On March 14th, 2009 at 9:20 am, jangar said:

    Muzzammil and Aasiya Hassan launched the Bridges TV network in 2004, saying they wanted to counter negative stereotypes and media portrayals of Muslims.

    Look, I’m a moderate!

    Aasiya Hassan was stabbed multiple times and decapitated less than a week after having her husband served with divorce papers.

    Naaah, not really. Allah Akbar!

  43. #648514
    On March 14th, 2009 at 10:22 am, 24Klady said:

    And, the comforting thing is that we have imported millions of these warped and twisted individuals into this country. How their world views and ours work out the nasty little details is going to be interesting. My guess is that down the road we’ll find our laws constantly challenged to accomodate their world view.

  44. #648521
    On March 14th, 2009 at 10:40 am, pajacobs78 said:

    Maybe when this pos muslim “header/killer” gets to prison, the freaks already in there will think he’s freakier than they are, and then they will take his head off because they don’t want to lose theirs in the middle of the night! So I say, send him to prison. Remember what happen to Jeffrey Dahmer?

  45. #648528
    On March 14th, 2009 at 10:56 am, MrOlympia said:

    There are many more just like him here in the USA. He presents as a “peace loving” cough cough respectful Muslim to fool us infidels.

    Why should anyone believe anything a Muslim says other than:
    1) They want the total destruction of Israel and the Jews
    2) They want everyone that is not a Muslim to convert or die
    3)ALLAH AKBAR!!

  46. #648531
    On March 14th, 2009 at 11:04 am, Mojave Mark said:

    There are really only three pillars of Islam:

    Conversion
    Death
    Slavery

    Any questions?

    Mrs. Hassan chose death because she wouldn’t submit.

  47. #648543
    On March 14th, 2009 at 11:22 am, pueblo1032 said:

    Of course he did not do it!!! He just SCOWLED at his BELOVED, and her HEAD FELL OFF… There are many religions in the world, but only ONE religion of PEACE…

  48. #648559
    On March 14th, 2009 at 11:57 am, jangar said:

    Mrs. Hassan chose death because she wouldn’t submit.

    Mrs. Hassan may have been converting to Christianity. Ever wonder about that?

  49. #648560
    On March 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am, b-cat said:

    It is 2nd degree murder because it happened in NY. Mark David Chapman was charged with 2nd degree murder for the assasination of John Lennon, even though it was premeditated and he flew all the way from Hawaii to do it.

    Murder is still murder in VA and the death penalty is still carried out here, that is, until the rest of New York moves down here.

  50. #648562
    On March 14th, 2009 at 12:03 pm, lottadawg said:

    I think all knives should be registered. That way when you walk into your office and find a head you can trace the perp.
    (source NCIS)

  51. #648563
    On March 14th, 2009 at 12:09 pm, cnsrvativ1st said:

    Police officer: “If you’re innocent what’s your wife’s head doing on the desk in your office?”

    Hassan: “Oh, THAT head!”

  52. #648568
    On March 14th, 2009 at 12:15 pm, Buy Danish said:

    Hey, maybe she had a tumor that needed to be cut out and they couldn’t afford to see a doctor. If only we had universal health care she might be alive today.

  53. #648579
    On March 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm, cheapseat said:

    so the real question is when americans go to the middle east, why do they have to abide by sharia law, but when muslims come here, they assume they can still use sharia law.

  54. #648580
    On March 14th, 2009 at 12:46 pm, TXGator said:

    I blame global warming. Because of the unbearable hotness of Earth, her husband was forced to cut a hole in his wife so she could vent heat. Everyone knows heat escapes through the head.

    Whatever the crime, being a liberal apologist means never having to say you’re a sorry human being.

  55. #648590
    On March 14th, 2009 at 12:57 pm, yohannbiimu said:

    “Plea bargain???” SCREW HIM!!! If this miscreant gets anything but the FULL EXTENT that the law is able to put on him, it will be a defeat for America and a huge victory for Sharia Law and Islam. This guy has got to bet the book thrown at him–EVERY VOLUME of it.

  56. #648604
    On March 14th, 2009 at 1:18 pm, right_on said:

    It’s kind of ironic. The Japanese culture used to decapitate as a form of mercy, to prevent undue suffering. These practicing Islamic ideologues decapitate to show their distaste for the person, to torture, and to spread terror.

    The Japanese used sharp swords with one fell slash, while the Islamist use smaller knives, not honed, and use a sawing action. Brutal.

    This HAD to be premeditated. What American in history has decapitated in “the heat of passion?” Name one.

  57. #648608
    On March 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm, yohannbiimu said:

    On March 14th, 2009 at 1:18 pm, right_on said:

    This HAD to be premeditated. What American in history has decapitated in “the heat of passion?” Name one.

    I can’t think of this sort of thing happening here PERIOD. This sort of thing happens with crazed people who’ve been fed Islam for their entire existence 24/7 in lands that are covered in sand and camel piss, NOT IN MY COUNTRY.

  58. #648610
    On March 14th, 2009 at 1:36 pm, corkie said:

    On March 13th, 2009 at 11:13 pm, zyzzyg said:

    I think you missed the point.

    I only read this very quickly, but I think Michelle was sarcastically attempting to speculate on the defense strategy NOT the motive.

  59. #648617
    On March 14th, 2009 at 1:47 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    they wanted to counter negative stereotypes and media portrayals of Muslims.

    Nice job, Habib.

    Can you do it again?

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  60. #648621
    On March 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    OK, we’re guessing. What is everyone else’s guess?

    My guess is he’s a fanatical homicidal nutjob.

    But that’s just my guess …

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  61. #648627
    On March 14th, 2009 at 1:57 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    yohannbiimu said:

    I can’t think of this sort of thing happening here PERIOD. This sort of thing happens with crazed people who’ve been fed Islam for their entire existence 24/7 in lands that are covered in sand and camel piss, NOT IN MY COUNTRY.

    Nicole Brown was pretty well near decapitated.

    In arguing over the admissibility of 40 to 50 autopsy photos, Kelberg said the cut was so deep it partially severed her vertebrae, Kelberg said, in arguing over the admissibility of 40 to 50 autopsy photos.

  62. #648643
    On March 14th, 2009 at 2:25 pm, Cameron said:

    Hey, Mookie? Belated kudos for getting that press release from NOW up here. At least they are admitting that something horrible happened.

    As for Muzzammil’s not guilty plea, it should be interesting to see how his attorney tries to spin this.

  63. #648645
    On March 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm, WarTip said:

    On March 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm, cheapseat said: so the real question is when americans go to the middle east, why do they have to abide by sharia law, but when muslims come here, they assume they can still use sharia law.

    For the same reasons illegal alien invaders can come here and enjoy civil rights that are only available to citizens while if you go to another nation as an illegal alien, you do jail time before they kick your fanny out and stamp a big fat “Do not return” on your passport.

    But that list could go on to many more things including, jobs, voting, buying property etc etc et al ad infinitum ad nauseum.

  64. #648660
    On March 14th, 2009 at 3:52 pm, Last Massachusetts Conservative said:

    On March 13th, 2009 at 8:41 pm, havok said:
    C’mon…somtimes peoples heads just fall off. Give the poor guy a break.

    Thanks havok, I needed the laugh.

  65. #648663
    On March 14th, 2009 at 4:06 pm, RetFireman said:

    On March 14th, 2009 at 12:13 am, 31Bravo said:

    My guess on the second degree filing is that they are going to call it a crime in the heat of passion rather than a premeditated, lying in wait sort of thing.

    That’s right. After he decided that he would not allow her to divorce him, further besmirching his honor, he just had no idea that stabbing her repeatedly and using a knife in a sawing motion against her throat could lead to her death, let alone decapitation. I mean, no one was more shocked at what happened than this guy.

    Here he is, a practicing Muslim who follows the Quran, practicing the world’s most peaceful, non-violent, accepting, loving religion, minding his own business and working diligently to dispel the white man’s lies surrounding his religion…which was obviously nothing more than an evil plot by Bush to incite violence and hatred against any of Islam’s followers…and next thing he knows there are all these notoriously racist cops slapping handcuffs on him and taking him to the station where, no doubt, the Draconian methods of the PD were put into effect, forcing him to lie concerning what happened to the woman he loved more than anything else, and would never harm a hair on.

    All this is, is nothing more than another attempt at this racist, cowardly nation to oppress and slander a proud and peace-loving people…the Muslims.

    When…oh when will this country learn to not be so filled with hate? When will AmeriKKKa cease their cowardly, bigoted and racist ways.

    In the meantime, the real perpetrator of this heinous crime…no doubt some slack-jawed, gun and Bible clutching, Mid-Western Klan member…goes free, stalking his next victim.

    Wow…I think I am finally getting the hang of this “sounding Liberal” thing. I feel dirtier and slimier every time. Scary.

  66. #648673
    On March 14th, 2009 at 5:13 pm, TXGator said:

    In “Dumb and Dumber” Petey the Parakeet’s head fell off. There’s your precedent, defense lawyers.

  67. #648695
    On March 14th, 2009 at 6:19 pm, right_on said:

    Nicole Brown was pretty well near decapitated.

    Also premeditated and the culmination of years of “righteous” anger.

  68. #648710
    On March 14th, 2009 at 7:22 pm, JHSII said:

    Given how NOW supported OJ Simpson all through the trial for the murder of Nicole, why don’t they don’t totally and unconditionally support Muzzammil Hassan. :roll:

    I am confused. Can anyone help?

  69. #648711
    On March 14th, 2009 at 7:24 pm, RetFireman said:

    On March 14th, 2009 at 6:19 pm, right_on said:

    Nicole Brown was pretty well near decapitated.

    Also premeditated and the culmination of years of “righteous” anger.

    And also the work of some racist who was trying to frame an ethnic member of our society. Hmmm…it must be a conspiracy. A c-o-n…….spiracy.

  70. #648738
    On March 14th, 2009 at 8:59 pm, rightisright said:

    On March 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm, cheapseat said:

    so the real question is when americans go to the middle east, why do they have to abide by sharia law, but when muslims come here, they assume they can still use sharia law.

    Wellll…it’s because of the selfish, vote stealing, money grabbing, elitist, spineless politicians…sure, you know that.

    I do not trust politicians any longer of and stripe, the cure is term limits and these bastards will never go for that. Therefore we need candidates that campaign on term limits. IMHO they would win in damn near every election they ran in. That way or a revolt of some type, I fear the latter may be the result.

  71. #648746
    On March 14th, 2009 at 9:20 pm, vsatt said:

    This was obviously just another form of punishment to him like whip lashings. The fact that she died once her head was removed from her body was an unfortunate occurrence. He’s not a medical doctor, how is he supposed to know this would happen? Why didn’t anyone warn him? Now he has to live without his wife when all he was trying to do was teach her a lesson so she would be a better and happier person. He’s the victim here people!

    But I guess if he goes to prison at least he has a free place to live and free healthcare

  72. #648752
    On March 14th, 2009 at 9:50 pm, corona said:

    You Frontier Dude: Stop spreading lies.

  73. #648756
    On March 14th, 2009 at 9:59 pm, frontierguy said:

    Similarly, I been unable to find any evidence corroborating the claim that Muslims believe that “eating or touching a pig, its meat, its blood, etc., is to be instantly barred from paradise and doomed to hell.

    Been to the middle east. Was over there for a year, were you? I don’t know about about.com, but many Muslims firmly believe that eating pork will doom them to hell. So, hey Corona, travel some and stop believing everything you read on the internet.

  74. #648765
    On March 14th, 2009 at 10:17 pm, frontierguy said:

    Okay, I feel guilty, I can’t prove the thing about Pershing, I do know that I heard it in the early 90’s when I was in the military. It may be a rumor, but I still stand by the fact that we will never achieve security while we fight Muslim extremism by making sure we do not offend them. It makes no sense. I talked with a Muslim once who said that he would never understand a country that makes its laws outside of what the Quran says. He said the only laws he needs to follow no matter where he was in the world are the ones listed in the Quarn. If that is the way the majority of them feel, the west will never be safe.

  75. #648778
    On March 15th, 2009 at 12:44 am, RetFireman said:

    You do not deal with bullies by appeasing the bully. You cannot dispose of the crap that Islam is allowed to commit on the free world by continuing to appease them any time they complain about having their delicate sensibilities harmed.

    All it does is teach the bully to not only continue down the path they started down, and worse, increase their demands.

    The same is true for what Islam is doing. The more people and countries try to appease them, the more they continue to have the belief that “If we just give them what they want, maybe they will leave us alone”, the more Islam will keep terrorizing people and countries.

    There has never been a person, people or group in history that, when appeased, ever decided, “Ok, well we have enough now. Thanks for all you have done”. It especially has never worked against a hostile entity. Just think about Hitler and all the millions of lives lost to the belief, “If we just give him what he wants, he will leave us in peace”.

    Who do you think their model is?

    Enough is enough. If nowhere else in this world, this country needs to be the last stand. This country needs to be the place where they are told, “ENOUGH!!! NO MORE!!! You either blend in with this society…the society that was here when you got here, the one you thought was goof enough for you to move to, or you can find somewhere more suitable to your needs. If we offend you, then it is time to put your big girl panties on and suck it up, or you can move along to somewhere that whining is appreciated. France is always open.”

    Unfortunately, unless there is a drastic change, I am afraid it will merely remain a fantasy.

  76. #649034
    On March 15th, 2009 at 1:09 pm, yohannbiimu said:

    On March 14th, 2009 at 1:57 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    yohannbiimu said:

    I can’t think of this sort of thing happening here PERIOD. This sort of thing happens with crazed people who’ve been fed Islam for their entire existence 24/7 in lands that are covered in sand and camel piss, NOT IN MY COUNTRY.

    Nicole Brown was pretty well near decapitated.

    Well, that was a famous Black guy. Everyone knows that famous Black guys can do anything with impunity. That goes without saying…

  77. #649091
    On March 15th, 2009 at 2:33 pm, lgm said:

    Do you go ape when a Christian violates his religion? Do you even peep about institutionalized child rape in polygamist compounds? No. Only Muslims abuse women.

  78. #649225
    On March 15th, 2009 at 4:51 pm, RetFireman said:

    No one can be this stupid. DOn’t you have lawns to mow so you can buy that new bike?

  79. #649335
    On March 15th, 2009 at 8:10 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    On March 15th, 2009 at 4:51 pm, RetFireman said:

    No one can be this stupid.

    Lgm is living proof that one can be that stupid.

  80. #649482
    On March 16th, 2009 at 1:06 am, William said:

    Here is a poignant point to ponder …

    Had the woman possessed a firearm, and had the skill to use it effectively, or had the woman been a skilled martial artist, skilled in Hapkido, Krav Maga, Muay Thai, Brazilian Jiu Jiutsu, Kodukan Judo, Yoshinkan Aikido, Wing Chun Gung Fu, Shaolin Kung Fu, Pancrase, Sambo, le Savate, Jeet Kune Do, Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) and, in self defense, either injured or killed her “husband” before her “husband” injured or killed her, I would NOT be surprised if she were the one arrested and charged with a crime, including assault and battery, assault with a deadly weapon, and, in the case of his death, murder. The same could have happened had a passerby come to her aid and the husband had been injured or killed in the melee.

    In other words, for the woman in this case it appears to be a lose – lose situation. How could she POSSIBLY be anything but guilty? If she defended herself and her killer been injured or killed, she would have been charged and convicted. Otherwise she ends violently stabbed, beheaded, her life ripped from her, and dead.

    This is one more example of the injustice that this woman, and not only women, but other citizens face regarding self defense or submitting to their own slaughter.

  81. #649965
    On March 16th, 2009 at 1:36 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    I would purify this man with fire

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