Diagnosis: Advanced stage of BDS

By Michelle Malkin  •  March 16, 2009 10:50 PM

File under “People with waaaay too much time on their hands.” But I guess it’s a lot more fun for these people to chase after Bush than it is to watch the Obama-culpo Cliff Diver currently occupying the White House.

Ask Bob Alexander how often he’s heard the word “quixotic” recently. The approximate answer: all the time. Of all the people who read Charles Manson prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi’s best-selling “The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder,” this 57-year-old Seattle coffee merchant is the only one jolted to act on it in a substantial way. The SuperBeans proprietor has become a super-activist.

With the help of a handful of volunteers and donations, Alexander has sent 2,200 copies of Bugliosi’s hardcover to prosecutors around the country. Now he and his volunteers are following up with each one of them by phone and e-mail, as well as gathering signatures for petitions urging the prosecutors to indict the former president…

…With 10 volunteers, some pizza and no doubt plenty of his coffee, Alexander packed the books with a cover letter from Bugliosi, and sent them off Jan. 31. Now they’re following up. “He really took the bull by the horns,” Bugliosi said. “Bob’s the only one that really took it to the next level.”

Question of resources

No takers so far, though, particularly in King County. Ian Goodhew, deputy chief of staff in the King County Prosecutor’s Office, said he’s answered about 500 e-mails from people who want charges filed against Bush.

“Mr. Bugliosi has some legal theories that he suggests, but none of which have any legal merit,” he said.

Goodhew explained, “The statutes of Washington state only give us jurisdiction for crimes that occur in Washington state. We can’t prosecute someone for a murder that occurs in California under Washington state law, so how can we prosecute for someone that was killed in Iraq?”

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  1. #650572
    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:01 pm, love2rumba said:

    “The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder

    Vincent Bugliosi wrote this book?

    Incredible.

  2. #650573
    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:01 pm, vickisoup said:

    Pray for President Bush.

  3. #650577
    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:02 pm, Tennessee Dave said:

    It makes you wonder what he’s brewing his coffee with.

    “quixotic”

    Idiotic is more like it.

  4. #650579
    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:09 pm, zyzzyg said:

    Bush Derangement Syndrome, or Obama Derangement Syndrome, the silliness will always continue.

    I read a story online where a blogger invited posters to photoshop a German food product to make light of Pres Obama.

    The unfortunate reality is that there is BDS and ODS and petty people will always look to any silliness to diminish those we dislike with knee jerk reactionary silliness.

  5. #650583
    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:16 pm, Flyoverman said:

    zyzzyg,

    I find nothing silly about Obama.

    I think after reading this I do not believe Obama merits any respect whatsoever.

    READ THIS ONE VETERANS

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20090316/pl_usnw/the_american_legion_strongly_opposed_to_president_s_plan_to_charge_wounded_heroes_for_treatment

  6. #650584
    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:17 pm, joetimek said:

    Hmm, a completely wacked-out book by a tinfoil hat-wearer about fictionalized crimes OR a playful jab at a ridiculous but real product sold in Germany.

    A war is still going on under Obama’s watch, yet no one is calling him a butcher.

    Small difference there.

  7. #650586
    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:21 pm, dpt said:

    “this 57-year-old Seattle coffee merchant is the only one jolted to act on it in a substantial way. The SuperBeans proprietor has become a super-activist.”

    He needs to switch to decaf or a hemp-based tea.

  8. #650587
    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:21 pm, Flyoverman said:

    A war is still going on under Obama’s watch, yet no one is calling him a butcher.

    True, but he has found a way to generate $540 million in revenue from the war. Read the link above.

  9. #650588
    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:21 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    57-year-old Seattle coffee merchant

    That did it for me! Nutcase.

  10. #650590
    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:25 pm, atheling said:

    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:09 pm, zyzzyg said:

    You people set the standard.

    Your inability to see the difference between irreverent photoshopping (that’s not obscene, either) with actually attempting a lawsuit where there is no jurisdiction demonstrates how idiotic you libturds really are.

  11. #650591
    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:28 pm, travlinman said:

    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:09 pm, zyzzyg said:

    Bush Derangement Syndrome, or Obama Derangement Syndrome, the silliness will always continue.

    I read a story online where a blogger invited posters to photoshop a German food product to make light of Pres Obama.

    The unfortunate reality is that there is BDS and ODS and petty people will always look to any silliness to diminish those we dislike with knee jerk reactionary silliness.

    Nice try, dipwad. Michelle’s call for bloggers to photo-shop the chicken finger ad was not intended to make light of Obama (as if he needs any help making sport of himself), but to make fun of the alleged ‘racist’ overtones of the German company’s faux pas.
    Also, do not attempt to equivocate some ‘high road’ position, as if you are the only one who is able to maintain a semblance of moral superiority when it comes to showing respect for the office of, or the person who is, the President. Do you possess any objective evidence showing you taking any stance against the folks who ridiculed Bush on a daily basis? If not, shut the hell up.

  12. #650597
    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:33 pm, cactusjoe said:

    That’s the trouble with the Puget Sound area…crappy newspapers reporting liberal propaganda. I loved living there, but the libs there are really nutty. Well, the P.I. is gone, maybe the times will soon follow.

  13. #650601
    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:43 pm, sshuffield70 said:

    And one more thing about this.

    Trust me, it ain’t happening. If Bush gets tried for anything, Republicans will be emboldened to try and get Obama tossed out of office on Constitutional grounds.

    Good luck, BDS victims.

  14. #650602
    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:45 pm, travlinman said:

    Let’s all be clear about this, if Obama succeeds in getting this insurance charge implemented toward wounded vets, the $540 million will be passed on to consumers in the form of higher premiums. That action will tend to put affordable health insurance out of reach for even more Americans, giving credence to the Socialists call for National Health Insurance. Self-serving ba$tard$, aren’t they?

  15. #650604
    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:52 pm, emjem24 said:

    It’s pretty sad that, even after Dems won the 2008 election (as sad as it is for those of us who have to pay for their mistakes) they can’t press the reset button.

    I mean, Bush came into office after all the petty crap Clinton put the country through and he didn’t even go after him. I’m sure some Republicans were disappointed by that decision but personally, if you had Clinton as a “role model” during your high school and college years as I did, you were just glad to see him gone.

    I really think that Americans have no priorities (on both sides). Republicans don’t want to put up a substantive, alternative approach to Obummer’s mob rule and libs just can’t get enough of the games at the country’s collective expense.

  16. #650605
    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:55 pm, Sean said:

    I wouldn’t call it BDS, I would call it fascism. It is a disorder that begins when you start to believe that anyone who doesn’t agree with you should be imprisoned or put on a box car. The fact that the press glorifies these monsters is truly disgusting.

  17. #650608
    On March 17th, 2009 at 12:13 am, txvet2 said:

    They must really envy Putin. He just throws his enemies in jail for life and confiscates all of their property. The Dems may try the same thing after they manage to revoke the Constitution so the ultimate monument to affirmative action run amok can be President for life.

  18. #650615
    On March 17th, 2009 at 12:22 am, cabrerski said:

    Nice material for a punny response:

    “Prosecutor says coffee merchant has no grounds for legal action”

    “Coffee seller cannot filter out voices, seeks Bush indictment”

    “Coffee shop owner does not know SuperBeans about law”

    Come on, you try it. Fun and pun for the whole family.

  19. #650627
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:07 am, CrazyFool said:

    Goodhew explained, “The statutes of Washington state only give us jurisdiction for crimes that occur in Washington state. We can’t prosecute someone for a murder that occurs in California under Washington state law, so how can we prosecute for someone that was killed in Iraq?

    This last bit seems to indicate to me that the Prosecutor Goodhew seems to feels that Bush really is to blame for someone who is killed in Iraq by a terrorist.

    How very telling… and how very sad.

  20. #650639
    On March 17th, 2009 at 2:23 am, zyzzyg said:

    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:16 pm, Flyoverman said: #5

    zyzzyg,

    I find nothing silly about Obama.

    I think after reading this I do not believe Obama merits any respect whatsoever.

    You did not understand my post. There are people on both sides that use silliness to diminish who they do not like. I am not saying Pres Obama is silly, or not silly. Talking about chicken fingers, or his ears, is not substantive, it is just silly. Take him to task over his policies, like in the link provided, but to make fun of a German food product and link it to Pres Obama when he has no connection to it is just silly.

  21. #650641
    On March 17th, 2009 at 2:41 am, zyzzyg said:

    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:25 pm, atheling said: #10

    You people set the standard.

    Your inability to see the difference between irreverent photoshopping (that’s not obscene, either) with actually attempting a lawsuit where there is no jurisdiction demonstrates how idiotic you libturds really are.

    No, I did not set the standard.

    Irreverant photoshoping is funny and yes, silly. When Pres Obama can be taken to task over substance.

    And, a lawsuit prepared by a coffee barrista can not be taken seriously, it is also silly and meaningless.

    BTW, name calling without any basis is silly, too. A comment stating and acknowledging that there is BDS, and ODS, does not merit the absurd assignation of any perjoritive.

  22. #650642
    On March 17th, 2009 at 2:55 am, PKAmmoTroop said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 2:23 am, zyzzyg said:

    You did not understand my post. There are people on both sides that use silliness to diminish who they do not like.

    Luckily for us we don’t have to stoop that low. Obama does it all for us.

  23. #650644
    On March 17th, 2009 at 3:18 am, zyzzyg said:

    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:28 pm, travlinman said: #11

    Nice try, dipwad. Michelle’s call for bloggers to photo-shop the chicken finger ad was not intended to make light of Obama (as if he needs any help making sport of himself), but to make fun of the alleged ‘racist’ overtones of the German company’s faux pas.
    Also, do not attempt to equivocate some ‘high road’ position, as if you are the only one who is able to maintain a semblance of moral superiority when it comes to showing respect for the office of, or the person who is, the President. Do you possess any objective evidence showing you taking any stance against the folks who ridiculed Bush on a daily basis? If not, shut the hell up.

    Wrong. That was not MM’s motive because she went on to suggest that she thinks tentacles and pigs feet would better represent Pres Obama.

    I never said I was “the only one who is able to maintain a semblance of moral superiority when it comes to showing respect for the office of . . . President . . “ You assumed this on your own.

    I have taken issue with others who have gone silly over Pres Bush. You are welcome to search MM’s data base and find out for yourself. I have nothing to prove to you.

    MM’s Blog is an open forum and anyone can post their opinions, your suggestion to be quiet, . . . falls on deaf ears.

  24. #650646
    On March 17th, 2009 at 3:45 am, chucky said:

    So, what you’re saying, zyzzyg, tying up work hours of hundreds of prosecutors and some silly (yep, silly) photoshopping fun are equivalent.

    Lighten up, Francis.

  25. #650650
    On March 17th, 2009 at 5:22 am, graysonret said:

    The SuperBeans proprietor has become a super-activist.

    Now here is a good example of the “useful idiot”. He ought to be more concerned on what this new government is going to do to his business than helping to play the dictator card, prosecuting all “enemies of the people.” Perhaps he feels he’ll be immune from the takeovers. He may find himself in trouble too, being a member of the “oppressive rich”. Perhaps he’s so stupid about history, that he’ll cheer the new regulations telling him exactly how his business will be run, under the new banner, “The People’s Coffee Company”.

  26. #650660
    On March 17th, 2009 at 5:46 am, DagneyT said:

    Bugliosi was long ago infected with Hollywierdness. I remember when he was often on Star Trek, portraying a divine-like creature! His is the height of egotistic behavior.

  27. #650664
    On March 17th, 2009 at 6:16 am, CW4_KGP said:

    This is beyond ABDS. This indicates TBDS. Terminal Bush Derangement Syndrome. Nothing is more important, and they will take it to their graves, which for some is still a long way off.

    Maybe if R.S. Cheney gives more interviews and speeches, the BDS crowd have their collective BP raised, suffer a stroke and turn into blathering vegetables….oh wait….they already have.

    In the spirit of hopeychangeyness, hope springs eternal. I heard that SCOTUS HBIC (Head Barrister In Charge) Roberts says he will look into the whole Pbo vs birthers issue. With about 350K signatures, it’s clear that Pbo would be money ahead if he would simply provide a real birth certificate. Of course, that (approximately) $1 million he has spent to keep it out of sight will be lost, but you know, this is America.

    I am beginning more and more to see Pbo as Borat as President….just words, words without meaning.

  28. #650665
    On March 17th, 2009 at 6:23 am, mojack420 said:

    cant wait until BHO taxes this pinhead out of business .
    .

  29. #650670
    On March 17th, 2009 at 6:49 am, vcferlita said:

    No takers so far

    you don’t say..

    Superbeans..heh.

  30. #650684
    On March 17th, 2009 at 7:32 am, tampadave said:

    Obama supporters are either complete tools or they simply enjoy wearing tin foil hats.

  31. #650690
    On March 17th, 2009 at 7:48 am, travlinman said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 3:45 am, chucky said:
    So, what you’re saying, zyzzyg, tying up work hours of hundreds of prosecutors and some silly (yep, silly) photoshopping fun are equivalent.

    Lighten up, Francis.

    Chucky,

    You validated my point with your reply to zyzzyg. The Obama supporters after years of calling Bush everything but a child raper (which is probably the basis of some blog topics over at Kos) cannot stand the thought of any dissent aimed at their guy. It does not matter if it is parody or not. The ‘racism’ word always comes into play. Classless and clueless pretty well sum up the whole bunch.

  32. #650695
    On March 17th, 2009 at 8:21 am, cheapseat said:

    sean

    sean#13 your post is exactly correct. don’t debate your positions, destroy through any means possible your critics. mr obama was elected twice in illinois by destroying his opponents and making them get out of the race so he could run unopposed. he shows every indication of doing so as the leader of the free world. fascism indeed. can gulags be far down the road.

  33. #650697
    On March 17th, 2009 at 8:26 am, cicerokid said:

    zyzzyg said “but to make fun of a German food product and link it to Pres Obama when he has no connection to it is just silly.”

    Didn’t obummer stump in Germany? There is a connection: Commemorative microwave chicken!!

  34. #650698
    On March 17th, 2009 at 8:31 am, cicerokid said:

    I sure hope coffee dude Bob grows his own beans seeing how obummer isn’t exaclty making any freinds in Columbia…

  35. #650699
    On March 17th, 2009 at 8:32 am, Socky said:
  36. #650701
    On March 17th, 2009 at 8:36 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    So, why are they not going after the senators who signed off on the Iraq war? Are they not murderers as well? As I recall, there were plenty of Dems on that list.

    SEE VOTE HERE

    Notables:

    Clinton
    Kerry
    Biden
    Daschle
    Dodd
    Edwards
    Reid

    AND

    Cantwell(D) Washington

    Get back to us when you arrest Cantwell.

    Gawd I hate stoooopid people.

  37. #650702
    On March 17th, 2009 at 8:39 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    No, do NOT File under “People with waaaay too much time on their hands.”

    This is a whole lot more than an Advanced stage of BDS and goes far beyond President Bush and his Administration. Vincent Bugliosi is only one part of this “Our Turn-a New Night of the Long Knives”. Representatives Henry Waxman, Maxine Waters-the Congressional Black Caucus in General, Senators have all called for Special War Crimes Trials-either International or Congressional. William Ayres call for Re-education camps and 25 million dead unrepentant capitalist is NOT foreign to these people. He is not an outside crank but part and parcel to these people.

    Flyoverman #5 mentions President Obama’s plan to charge Veterans for SERVICE CONNECTED INJURIES AND WOUNDS. That has been a plan of the Left for years–more denigration of our military. As Britain eliminated their Veterans hospitals and most of their military hospitals, rolling them into the National Health Service so the Left and Obama plan to do so.

    Despite what our wimpy trolls, talking heads of the MSM or anyone else tells you we are in a fight for our very way of life and many of us our very life itself.Fascism IS here–Obama, Rahm Emmanuel and such are NOT just some silly Liberals–not by a long shot.


    Keep the change-I’ll keep my guns

  38. #650703
    On March 17th, 2009 at 8:40 am, vsatt said:

    t’s pretty sad that, even after Dems won the 2008 election (as sad as it is for those of us who have to pay for their mistakes) they can’t press the reset button.

    That’s because their button says “overcharge.”

  39. #650705
    On March 17th, 2009 at 8:44 am, jangar said:

    travlinman said: The ‘racism’ word always comes into play

    Obama’s chief defense. The reason he was selected to force demonrat policies down the throat of America, with a demonrat controlled congress, then hide behind the racism shield. A perfect liberal storm, so to speak.

  40. #650709
    On March 17th, 2009 at 8:56 am, ShowMeStateOfMind said:

    I think its time we coined a new version of this to indicate the frustration of us ‘normal’ folk out there… the tea party-ers…


    ODS – Obama Depression Syndrome

    It would be pronounced as “odious” and may reflect either the state of the economy or the mental state of those fed up with the current state of affairs…

  41. #650710
    On March 17th, 2009 at 8:56 am, granite said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 8:39 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Spot on.

    Agreed.

  42. #650714
    On March 17th, 2009 at 9:00 am, ThatSamIAm said:

    “You took it to a hole nuva levo!”
    ~Eugene Struthers

  43. #650716
    On March 17th, 2009 at 9:03 am, RedDog said:

    Ian Goodhew, deputy chief of staff in the King County Prosecutor’s Office, said he’s answered about 500 e-mails from people who want charges filed against Bush.

    “Mr. Bugliosi has some legal theories that he suggests, but none of which have any legal merit,” he said.

    What does have legal merit is to have charges filed against Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and the rest of the brew crew in Congress who stole our life savings and condemned our grandchildren to a lifetime of debt. I think that sounds like a better course of action Mr. SuperBeans.

  44. #650717
    On March 17th, 2009 at 9:06 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Thanks granite, I HOPE we can reach more–millions more.

  45. #650718
    On March 17th, 2009 at 9:09 am, jangar said:

    On the evening of September 11th 2001, while watching recaps of the day’s events, I turned to my wife and said “I’ll give the grieving process about 2 weeks, then all sh!t will hit the fan, and we’ll never hear the end of it.”

    She thought I was out of my mind, but not anymore.

  46. #650720
    On March 17th, 2009 at 9:10 am, Misscheryl said:

    For.Crying.Out.Loud.

  47. #650721
    On March 17th, 2009 at 9:13 am, RedDog said:

    Arizona: Nice post. These are definitely not garden variety liberals. These are committed bolsheviks ready and willing to do wet work on non-compliant Americans. If they are feeling froggy they need to go ahead and jump. American patriots will be ready.

    I still say we should have the legal option of a recall election. 2012 is too long a wait to remove this disastrous president.

  48. #650723
    On March 17th, 2009 at 9:14 am, sonofdy said:

    Someone get that guy some decaf.

    :roll:

  49. #650724
    On March 17th, 2009 at 9:14 am, tarpon said:

    Obama-culpo Cliff Diver LOL …

    This whole get Bush affair is getting really old and wearying thin. If I were to get one of these “hardcover” books, the first thing I would do with it is throw it in the trash.

    Obviously this whole thing is targeted at ignorant Obama voters, who probably still can’t figure out what country they fell off the turnip truck in.

  50. #650725
    On March 17th, 2009 at 9:15 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Bugliosi spend too much time with Charles Manson and develop Stockholm Syndrome?

    Helter-Skelter, Baby!

  51. #650727
    On March 17th, 2009 at 9:18 am, jangar said:

    This whole get Bush affair is getting really old and wearying thin. If I were to get one of these “hardcover” books, the first thing I would do with it is throw it in the trash.

    Or beat some sense into a liberal with it.

    Probably not possible, but nice try.

  52. #650729
    On March 17th, 2009 at 9:20 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Dear Dan Satterberg,

    It has come to my attention that Ian Goodhew is receiving emails calling for the prosecution of President Bush for murder. It seems he is doing little to shut down the deranged idea that Bush is a murderer and should be prosecuted.

    From the Seattle Times:

    Ian Goodhew, deputy chief of staff in the King County Prosecutor’s Office, said he’s answered about 500 e-mails from people who want charges filed against Bush.
    “Mr. Bugliosi has some legal theories that he suggests, but none of which have any legal merit,” he said.
    Goodhew explained, “The statutes of Washington state only give us jurisdiction for crimes that occur in Washington state. We can’t prosecute someone for a murder that occurs in California under Washington state law, so how can we prosecute for someone that was killed in Iraq?”
    Also, Goodhew said, “Even if there was jurisdiction, we don’t have the resources.”

    Your office cannot be serious! Why is it your stance that you lack resources and not that it is an idiotic idea at best?

    Need I remind you that your Senator, Cantwell, supported the war in Iraq? It seems to me you should be cleaning your own house first before you decide if there is merit to charge President Bush for murder.

    I formerly request that ANY action or further requests for the prosecution of President Bush be preceded by an arrest and prosecution of Senator Cantwell.

    Sincerely,

    Feel free to write your own letter.

    Dan Satterberg

  53. #650730
    On March 17th, 2009 at 9:21 am, sonofdy said:

    Michelle, we also need to find out what weapons systems obama is going to cut. Remember the outcry when bush didn’t magicaly attach just invented armor onto every vehicle in Iraq? Also they will be forcing private insurance to pay for service related medical expenses.

    No kidding. I will be back in a sec with the links.

  54. #650731
    On March 17th, 2009 at 9:21 am, ajmontana said:

    Odopey Fingers, the new Pork.

  55. #650733
    On March 17th, 2009 at 9:22 am, sonofdy said:
  56. #650734
    On March 17th, 2009 at 9:24 am, sonofdy said:

    Isn’t it cool that he also started a trade war with mexico???

    Now I actualy agree about the trucks not being safe, but I thought he was the guy for talking things out.

  57. #650753
    On March 17th, 2009 at 9:58 am, max said:

    On March 16th, 2009 at 11:09 pm, zyzzyg said:
    Bush Derangement Syndrome, or Obama Derangement Syndrome, the silliness will always continue.

    I read a story online where a blogger invited posters to photoshop a German food product to make light of Pres Obama.

    idiot

  58. #650760
    On March 17th, 2009 at 10:05 am, GladzKravtz said:

    Vincent Bugliosi’s best-selling “The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder”

    I do wonder when this book will become a college text book – possibly required reading. AAMOF, several years ago I visited Lynchburg, Va and went into the Randolph-Macon (now it’s called Randolf College) book store. A book by John Stewart (!) was required reading for some course…

  59. #650772
    On March 17th, 2009 at 10:13 am, Laree said:

    Everyone needs to look at the comments on The Washington Post article by Mitch McConnell (R) Senate Minority Leader Kentucky. He states Don’t Close Gitmo. The Blowback to his article calls him a liar and calls our troops at Guantanamo both incompetent and better used in Afghanistan apparently the Kos Kids got busy on Senator McConnell’s article for the Washington Post although it could be one of the papers on staff writers :)

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/13/AR2009031302907_Comments.html

  60. #650780
    On March 17th, 2009 at 10:17 am, Laree said:

    Like this comment

    arcticredriver wrote:
    Shamefully Senator McConnel ignores the clear evidence that Guantanamo continues to contain men who were totally innocent bystanders when captured.

    Guantanamo broke men, it drove some totally innocent men totally insane. If men who were innocent bystanders when they arrived at Guantanamo have been brought to hate the USA so much that they are NOW too dangerous to be released, then they should be held in the most humane possible conditions, offered therapy. But the simplest way to speed their healing would be to prosecute and punish the US war criminals who authorized their illegal torture in the first place.
    3/16/2009 1:48:34 PM
    Recommend (2)

    And this one.

    arcticredriver wrote:
    Senator McConnel asks: “Will it keep Americans as safe as Guantanamo has? If the answer is no, the administration must explain why fulfilling a campaign promise or pleasing European critics is a more important consideration.”

    Senator McConnel isn’t it true that there is absolutely no evidence that the routine abuse of the Guantanamo captives, and their abusive interrogation have worked to keep the public any safer. What the records seem to show is that Guantanamo functioned as a factory for producing a stream of bad information through forcing captives to utter false confessions and false denunciations. Taking this stream of bad information at face value has made the public much less safe, because irreplaceable, limited, counter-terrorism resources were squandered on wild-goose chases triggered by these false denunciations.

    Why just consider the manpower tied up guarding the captives at Guantanamo. The staff at the base TRIPLED following the opening of the camp — 6,000 GIs. That is two whole desperately needed brigades which weren’t available for deployment in Iraq or Afghanistan.
    3/16/2009 3:01:29 PM

  61. #650795
    On March 17th, 2009 at 10:21 am, cabrerski said:

    Neanderthal,

    Thanks for your voice concerning American veterans. We appreciate it.

  62. #650829
    On March 17th, 2009 at 10:35 am, wckelly60 said:

    What is this loon adding to the coffee he sells?

    Why is it also that these “activists” all look like they came out of the same clone lab? Early 60s, beard, longish hair, “smart” glasses… geez!

  63. #650831
    On March 17th, 2009 at 10:36 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Charles Manson prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi’s best-selling “The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder”

    Vicent Bugliosi would do better to focus his attention on Obama’s family friends…

    In 1969, after the Manson family murders in Beverly Hills,
    Ms. Dohrn told an S.D.S. audience:

    “Dig it! Manson killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach.”

    In Chicago recently, Ms. Dohrn said of her remarks: “It was a joke. We were mocking violence in America. Even in my most inflamed moment I never supported a racist mass murderer.”

    Ms. Dohrn, Mr. Ayers and others eventually broke with S.D.S. to form the more radical Weathermen

    Despite Dohrn’s more recent attempts at revisionism, her 1969 quote speaks for itself.

    Vicent Bugliosi prosecuted Charles Manson. Now he should focus on one of Manson’s fans who went on to murder a police officer.

  64. #650833
    On March 17th, 2009 at 10:37 am, lgm said:

    Republicans cheered as publicly paid prosecutors spent millions hounding former President Clinton over possibly lying about a consensual sexual encounter.

    There is good evidence that Bush knowingly ordered illegal torture. That’s worse than sex because (1) it does more harm to the reputation of the US, and (2) it isn’t consensual.

    Bush and Cheney should be grateful that it’s only a few nuts hounding them, not the full force of the US government.

  65. #650848
    On March 17th, 2009 at 10:42 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Mr. Polite to the rescue.

    Dear Mr. ____,

    Thank you for contacting the King County Prosecutor’s Office regarding
    the recent article covering an effort by followers of Vincent Bugliosi
    to have former President George W. Bush prosecuted for the “murder” of
    American troops. You appear to take issue with the basis upon which I
    have dismissed the calls for local prosecutors such as King County
    Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterberg, to take up such a prosecution.

    You should know that the reporter only described a small section of my
    response to people calling for such a prosecution. In addition to
    informing people that there is no legal basis to pursue such a
    prosecution, I also inform such people that there is no evidence to
    support such allegations and that if there was any evidence the federal
    government in the form of Congress, the Department of Justice or the
    current Administration should act, not our office.

    I don’t know how many other ways I can tell people that their call for
    such a prosecution is simply a non-starter. The fact that I do it in a
    polite way shouldn’t be held against our office.

    Sincerely,

    Ian Goodhew
    Deputy Chief of Staff
    King County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office

    Dear Mr. Goodhew,

    Thank you for your quick response.

    While I understand the press may not have done you justice, I think I really take issue with the idea that you have an opportunity to shut the tripe down. There should be little doubt where your office stands. According to the quote, you “lack resources”. Where is the “polite” in that statement? Where is your backing of the President of the United States? What I am getting is your office is not taking a strong stand to shut this down and, it should. By being “polite”, you are not chasing of the rats for fear of upsetting them.

    Again, if there is a call in your area for the arrest of President Bush, you must answer with the arrest of Senator Cantwell and make it known that is the avenue that you must take in order to proceed in the prosecution of President Bush. There is little other recourse. If Bush is guilty, so is your Senator. There is just no “polite” way to resolve that issue.

    I look forward to your quick and decisive action against Senator Cantwell if this movement is to go any further.

    Sincerely,

  66. #650870
    On March 17th, 2009 at 10:52 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    publicly paid prosecutors spent millions hounding former President Clinton over possibly lying perjury and obstruction of justice about a consensual sexual encounter.

    What that other Hussein guy in Iraq did was torture.

    What was done to terror detainees was hazing.

  67. #650889
    On March 17th, 2009 at 10:58 am, OregonGrapeVine said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 2:41 am, zyzzyg said:
    “does not merit the absurd assignation of any perjoritive.”

    Wow. Those are pretty big words for a nine year old.

  68. #650897
    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:02 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    OKAY! Who said idiot and opened the flood gates and let the idiot in?

  69. #650901
    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:03 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 8:39 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    This is a whole lot more than an Advanced stage of BDS and goes far beyond President Bush and his Administration. Vincent Bugliosi is only one part of this “Our Turn-a New Night of the Long Knives”. Representatives Henry Waxman, Maxine Waters-the Congressional Black Caucus in General, Senators have all called for Special War Crimes Trials-either International or Congressional. William Ayres call for Re-education camps and 25 million dead unrepentant capitalist is NOT foreign to these people. He is not an outside crank but part and parcel to these people.

    …we are in a fight for our very way of life and many of us our very life itself.Fascism IS here–Obama, Rahm Emmanuel and such are NOT just some silly Liberals–not by a long shot.

    You are correct, ArizonaNeanderthal. Domestic Enemies are in a very active war against this country.

    ”I don’t regret setting bombs,” Bill Ayers said. ”I feel we didn’t do enough.”

    He writes that he participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, the Pentagon in 1972.

    A spokeswoman for the Justice Department said there was a five-year statute of limitations on Federal crimes except in cases of murder or when a person has been indicted.

    Mr. Ayers, who in 1970 was said to have summed up the Weatherman philosophy as: ”Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that’s where it’s really at,” is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. And he says he doesn’t actually remember suggesting that rich people be killed or that people kill their parents, but ”it’s been quoted so many times I’m beginning to think I did,” he said. ”It was a joke about the distribution of wealth.”

    With him in the Weather Underground was Bernardine Dohrn, who was put on the F.B.I.’s 10 Most Wanted List. J. Edgar Hoover called her ”the most dangerous woman in America” and ”la Pasionara of the Lunatic Left.” Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn later married.

    ”Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon,” he writes.

    Their son, Malik [an Arabic word meaning "king", one of the names of Allah, "King" in the absolute sense], 21, is at the University of California, San Diego; Zayd [an Arabic name meaning "one who progresses and makes other people progress", the name of the orphan boy fostered by the Muslim Prophet Muhammad, who treated him as his own son to the extent that he was called "Zayd ibn Muhammad", ("Zayd the son of Muhammad")], 24, teaches at Boston University. They have also brought up Chesa Boudin, 21, the son of David Gilbert and Kathy Boudin, who are serving prison terms for a 1981 robbery of a Brinks truck in Rockland County, N.Y., that left four people dead.

    So, would Mr. Ayers do it all again, he is asked?

    I don’t want to discount the possibility

    he said.

    Those words (minus my additions in []), were printed in the New York Times on September 11, 2001.

    Yet, the Muslims who planned the attacks are not considered “enemy combatants” by Barack Obama.

  70. #650918
    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:08 am, Dave Turson said:

    Even the Bush-deranged pals of LGM in the MSM refused to help sell this book. I read Bugliosi’s book “Helter Skelter” in 1974, so I helped set him on the road to fame and fortune. The book was the product of an organized mind, but he sure is harebrained now. He is courtroom proof of the power of BDS. I’m praying that 4 years of The One doesn’t leave me with a serious case of ODS. Bugliosi is agnostic, so he missed out on the power of prayer. He also lives in La-La Land–a double whammy.

  71. #650922
    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:11 am, corona said:

    Why do you people insist on feeding the trolls?

  72. #650929
    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:17 am, sonofdy said:

    Why do you people insist on feeding the trolls?

    For me it is a guility pleasure. Sorry.

  73. #650946
    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:23 am, Jeddite said:

    So books about allegations of murder and photoshopping chick’n fingers are equivalent now?

  74. #650951
    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:24 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    William Ayers bombed multiple government buildings, and named his two sons after Allah and the son of Muhammad.

    William Ayers is an “enemy combatant“.

    And his “family friend” is in the white house, with access to every state secret of this country, and complete authority over our entire military.

    We are at war, folks, and it’s not just in Iraq and Afghanistan. Enemy combatants are right here, trying to destroy this country from within.

    Oh, they think they have “a righteous wind at their back”, they think they are “saving the planet”, but their Muslim-friendly Socialist dreams are this country’s worst nightmare.

  75. #650992
    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:46 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Question: Which U.S. politician publicly confessed the following words, in Arabic instead of English, with a first-rate accent?

    Allah is The Greatest.
    Allah is The Greatest.
    Allah is The Greatest.
    Allah is The Greatest.
    I bear witness that there is no deity except Allah.
    I bear witness that there is no deity except Allah.
    I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.
    I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.

    Answer.

  76. #651015
    On March 17th, 2009 at 12:00 pm, sonofdy said:

    Question: Which U.S. politician publicly confessed the following words, in Arabic instead of English, with a first-rate accent?

    ooo ooo…

    FDR right???;-)

  77. #651017
    On March 17th, 2009 at 12:01 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Heh.

  78. #651029
    On March 17th, 2009 at 12:07 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    But seriously, Obama’s “family friend” referred to our country as “Amerikkka“, and his “pastor” of 20+ years (who preaches Marxist “Black Liberation Theology” and is good friends with Louis F@rr@kh@n) referred to our country as “U.S. of KKK A“.

    Why don’t the BDS-inflicted people “connect the dots” on this stuff?

    There’s an enemy combatant usurping the oval office.

  79. #651075
    On March 17th, 2009 at 12:36 pm, undresiege said:

    There’s an enemy combatant usurping the oval office.

    Do you want a “takeback” on this one?

    With the help of a handful of volunteers and donations, Alexander has sent 2,200 copies of Bugliosi’s hardcover to prosecutors around the country. Now he and his volunteers are following up with each one of them by phone and e-mail, as well as gathering signatures for petitions urging the prosecutors to indict the former president…

    Now THIS is BDS. The phrase in so played out, but it certainly seems to apply in this case.

  80. #651085
    On March 17th, 2009 at 12:42 pm, cabrerski said:

    lgm,

    Your selective memory fails you…

    The special prosecutor was assigned to investigate Whitewater and other possible crimes. The Lewinski crap grew out of the investigation.

  81. #651099
    On March 17th, 2009 at 12:48 pm, sonofdy said:
    There’s an enemy combatant usurping the oval office.

    Do you want a “takeback” on this one?

    Maybe. Ask me in 4 years.

  82. #651578
    On March 17th, 2009 at 5:02 pm, T-Bone said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 12:22 am, cabrerski said:
    Nice material for a punny response:

    “Prosecutor says coffee merchant has no grounds for legal action”

    “Coffee seller cannot filter out voices, seeks Bush indictment”

    “Coffee shop owner does not know SuperBeans about law”

    Come on, you try it. Fun and pun for the whole family.

    “Movement has been brewing for quite a while”

    “Taxpayer wakes up and smells the coffee”

    “Book push grinds to a halt”

    “Coffeshop owner has a latte nerve”

    Couldn’t resist. :)

  83. #777061
    On August 13th, 2009 at 5:35 pm, spaceycakes said:

    “Bob’s the only one that really took it to the next level.”

    That says more about ‘Bob’ than anything else…

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