Is Obama starving federal firearms program for pilots?

By Michelle Malkin  •  March 17, 2009 11:19 PM

The Washington Times raises an alarm over the Obama administration’s siphoning off of federal funding for the post-9/11 program to allow pilots to carry arms on airplanes. (hat tip – Infidels are Cool)

Feel safer? Not me:

After the September 11 attacks, commercial airline pilots were allowed to carry guns if they completed a federal-safety program. No longer would unarmed pilots be defenseless as remorseless hijackers seized control of aircraft and rammed them into buildings.

Now President Obama is quietly ending the federal firearms program, risking public safety on airlines in the name of an anti-gun ideology.

The Obama administration this past week diverted some $2 million from the pilot training program to hire more supervisory staff, who will engage in field inspections of pilots.

This looks like completely unnecessary harassment of the pilots. The 12,000 Federal Flight Deck Officers, the pilots who have been approved to carry guns, are reported to have the best behavior of any federal law enforcement agency…

…Since Mr. Obama’s election, pilots have told us that the approval process for letting pilots carry guns on planes slowed significantly. Last week the problem went from bad to worse. Federal Flight Deck Officers – the pilots who have been approved to carry guns – indicate that the approval process has stalled out.

Pilots cannot openly speak about the changing policies for fear of retaliation from the Transportation Security Administration. Pilots who act in any way that causes a “loss of confidence” in the armed pilot program risk criminal prosecution as well as their removal from the program. Despite these threats, pilots in the Federal Flight Deck Officers program have raised real concerns in multiple interviews.

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  1. #651871
    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:27 pm, BOB said:

    All kinds of anti-gun stuff is happening under the most rabidly anti-gun President in history. New laws will not be needed to make owning a gun much more expensive, or even, not possible.

  2. #651872
    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:27 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Yes, and as sonofdy has pointed out, Obama has significantly changed the rules for government sale of once-used shells (which are reloaded and supply about a third of the ammunition market).

  3. #651875
    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:28 pm, d1carter said:

    Are there armed Secret Service on Air Force one?

  4. #651876
    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:29 pm, CantCureStupid said:

    The level of hatred that this guy has for the American way of life is truly breath-taking. I’m still in awe that 52% of the American electorate was obtuse enough to vote for him.

  5. #651878
    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:34 pm, tarpon said:

    You have to wonder, why does Obamaa’s teleprompter hate Americans. You don’t think the teleprompter writer is really Michelle, do you?

    What will the people say when they find out?

  6. #651887
    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:54 pm, California Red said:

    Tomorrow I get to pick up my new shotgun. It’s the the third firearm I have purchased since November.

    Not bitter, but definately clinging.

  7. #651889
    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:56 pm, Glamchild said:

    Wow, they slammed Gov. Palin for making victims pay for their own rape kits, but it’s ok to make soldiers pay for their own artillery and first aid ???

  8. #651890
    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:57 pm, TK-421 said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:27 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:
    Yes, and as sonofdy has pointed out, Obama has significantly changed the rules for government sale of once-used shells (which are reloaded and supply about a third of the ammunition market).

    Thats why I’m glad I use Russian Weaponanry, not dependant on US surp. However even thats been drying up, I’m just lucky that I have 500 rounds for my Wasr-10. And 400 for my M/91-30 If I can get more for both I well, but its drying up. And I know for a fact it isn’t as the Russian’s And Chinese arn’t selling it.

    What Obama is doing is hardly a surprise he’s weeding out guns and ammo slowly, then he’ll do a full bad, becase by then bunker mentality americans would have either shot up, or had there stocks siezed.

  9. #651895
    On March 18th, 2009 at 12:12 am, love2rumba said:

    …for Obama to do this is truly stunning…it makes me glad I don’t fly anywhere.

    BTW I’ve already got my Obama sticker up…the one that says:

    One
    Big
    Ass
    Mistake,
    America

    So if you see a ‘97 corolla running about Seattle with this sticker on the rear bumper-its probably me!

  10. #651898
    On March 18th, 2009 at 12:19 am, Sergeant Tim said:

    On November 19, 2002, the Federal Flight Deck Officers program was approved in the Senate by a vote of 90 to 9, as part of H.R. 5005, “A bill to establish the Department of Homeland Security, and for other purposes.” While Senators Akaka, Byrd, Feingold, Hollings, Inouye, Jeffords, Kennedy, Levin, and Sarbanes all vote against the DHS bill, the Federal Flight Deck Officers portion of the measure had overwhelming support on both sides of the aisle. Three days later, the House passed the final bill without objection and it became Public Law No: 107-296.

    So, where is the outrage now from Congress? Where is the outrage from the 9/11 family Steering Committee? Where is my crickets chirping music?

  11. #651899
    On March 18th, 2009 at 12:21 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    First the pilots, then the rest of us. It’s coming folks…

    This is going to be a very, very long four years.

  12. #651900
    On March 18th, 2009 at 12:24 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    In other “Homeland Insecurity” news:

    Obama Cuts Weapons

    The Russians and the Chinese have just both announced military buildups, and the Iranian nuclear threat was described as, “real” — “dangerous.”

    Venezuela offered an island off its Caribbean coast as a support base for strategic Russian bombers. Cuba could be used to base Russian aircraft, too. North Korea threatened war.

    Osama bin Laden called for a renewed jihad.

    What did Obama do?

    He ordered the Secretary of Defense to prepare for the most far-reaching reduction in the Pentagon’s weapons portfolio since the end of the Cold War, according to aides.

    Two defense officials who were not authorized to speak publicly said Robert M. Gates will announce up to a half-dozen major weapons cancellations later this month. Candidates include a new Navy destroyer, the Air Force’s F-22 fighter jet, and Army ground-combat vehicles, the officials said.

    More cuts are planned for later this year, after a review that could lead to reductions in programs such as aircraft carriers and nuclear arms, the officials said.

    He’s only doing what he promised he’d do. Sometimes, about some things, you can take this guy’s word to the bank.

    (quoted from The Obama File)

  13. #651901
    On March 18th, 2009 at 12:27 am, RetFireman said:

    Well, since there is no terrorism, and Obama has said they will no longer be calling it, “The War of Terror”, what do we need armed pilots for?

    Remember? Islam is “The Religion of Peace”. Arming pilots and others on airplanes merely insults Muslims and hurts their precious sensibilities.

    Our airplanes are safe enough for Nanci Pelosi not to fly on them, so what do we need pilots armed with guns for?

    Guns only make people fear the person holding them. Didn’t you know that is counter productive to the Liberal stance of giving the terrorists a hug and everything will be OK?

    Next you guys will tell me that owning a gun at home will actually help keep your family safe, or that women who carry firearms are less likely to be targets of violent crime. Sheesh.

  14. #651908
    On March 18th, 2009 at 12:48 am, PBoilermaker said:

    Military posts are also forbidden, until further notice, from selling spent brass shell casings to reloaders, effectively hampering the already low supply of ammo and raising costs.

    Those looking for ammo know what I am talking about.

  15. #651909
    On March 18th, 2009 at 12:49 am, PBoilermaker said:

    Oops…repost of info. Sorry about that.

  16. #651911
    On March 18th, 2009 at 1:03 am, Stillwaiting said:

    Would it be legal to start a 501 (c) 3 to fund the firearm training for pilots? I rarely fly anymore, but I would donate.

  17. #651914
    On March 18th, 2009 at 1:21 am, AlohaGuy said:

    Guns only make people fear the person holding them.

    hehe.

    BTW – where’s my M4? Can’t you guys speed up production?

  18. #651916
    On March 18th, 2009 at 1:39 am, goodforlaughs said:

    It’s like rubbing salt on a wound when the ignorant ones, those who were just voting for “hope and change”, refuse to see the reality of what the obama is doing to us — every day! All the sacrifice from our founding fathers and the many patriots who sacrificed their lives over the years mean nothing! Ignorance is NOT bliss!

    Oh, God, and now he’s coming to southern CA tomorrow. Guess he’s supposed to do a Leno appearance. Get the drool buckets out. I just wish he was coming here to the bay area so I could call in sick and go protest.

  19. #651919
    On March 18th, 2009 at 2:04 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    “I’ve fought for open, ethical, and accountable government my entire public life. I don’t switch positions or make promises that can’t be kept.”

    - Barack Obama

  20. #651922
    On March 18th, 2009 at 2:21 am, love2rumba said:

    BTW – where’s my M4? Can’t you guys speed up production?

    AlohaGuy…right now every AR-15 maker is churning them out as fast as they are being snatched, especially if they are a highly-accurate custom job like Rock River, Les Baer or Fulton Armory.

    I’m still waiting for my A4, standard AR, chambered in .308 Winchester from Rock River Arms..with 1 MOA accuracy, so I feel your pain right now.

  21. #651923
    On March 18th, 2009 at 2:36 am, DirkBelig said:
  22. #651927
    On March 18th, 2009 at 3:10 am, RUSH73 said:

    This is why the NRA gave him an F while the Brady Gun Control crowd gave him an A!!!!

    Wasn’t his first interview as President granted to an Arab Muslim tv station? Didn’t he call Hamas before he called Israel? Yeah, that’s what I thought Hope and Changers!

    Wonder if the moderates,and some conservatives, that voted for him in hopes of relieving some of their “white guilt” over slavery feel good about their vote now?

  23. #651929
    On March 18th, 2009 at 3:24 am, The Puddle Pirate said:

    Stock up now, folks. The window of opportunity’s closing.

  24. #651930
    On March 18th, 2009 at 3:32 am, ClassicFilm said:

    Time we “gird our loins,” comrades…

  25. #651932
    On March 18th, 2009 at 4:09 am, AlohaGuy said:

    I feel your pain right now

    So you’re the guy clogging the Rock River production line! :)

  26. #651980
    On March 18th, 2009 at 7:21 am, right_on said:

    The Obama administration this past week diverted some $2 million from the pilot training program to hire more supervisory staff, who will engage in field inspections of pilots.

    Interpretation: More Democrat bureaucracy for which to spend the public’s money, which does nothing but put more idiots in positions for which they are not qualified, nor needed. CHANGE.

  27. #651999
    On March 18th, 2009 at 7:45 am, tiredofit08 said:

    a real red dawn is upon us….

  28. #652028
    On March 18th, 2009 at 8:40 am, Ron said:

    The level of hatred that this guy has for the American way of life is truly breath-taking.

    Remember, Barack Obama wasn’t raised to respect the American way of life. He was raised by a single mother who spent nearly all of her life on the outside or at least the fringe of American culture. She married two non-citizens. When he was exposed to black society, in Hawaii, by his grandfather, it was to put him in touch with radical, white-hating communists. Anybody surprised yet?

  29. #652030
    On March 18th, 2009 at 8:45 am, sgcwi said:

    Better get while ya can… I just did the impossible. I found bulk 7.69.32 in 1,000 case. Will be delivered 3-26-09. I also cannot belive that the AG is using mexico’s inabilty to stop their vilonce so this knukle head thinks we need to outlaw our guns to save mexico. Geeshh. I think hopefully once this gets out about the Pilots, America will go off. As you re-call the 9-11 commision stated this needed to be done.

  30. #652040
    On March 18th, 2009 at 8:57 am, Misscheryl said:

    Ron # 27 – that’s what I have been saying as well. We are shocked when the guy shows no respect for our traditions nor our way of life and we gripe and complain about the actions he is taking, but he isn’t a fan of the American way of life and neither is his wife. He’s America’s #1 enemy, we just refuse to accept that fact. I’m beginning to think he really is a closet muslim (no caps intentional). I work with someone who readily spouts he is pro-socialist and he is ever so happy Obama is now our president. WAKE UP AMERICA!

  31. #652113
    On March 18th, 2009 at 9:49 am, Elm Creek Smith said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:27 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:
    Yes, and as sonofdy has pointed out, Obama has significantly changed the rules for government sale of once-used shells (which are reloaded and supply about a third of the ammunition market).

    That was reversed by DOD yesterday afternoon. Brass shell casings were recoded so they won’t have to be mutilated or crushed before sale. This will actually keep the value of this surplus higher than just the weight of the metal and provide more money to DOD.

    Hope is not a plan; not all change is good. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST!!!!!

    ECS

  32. #652119
    On March 18th, 2009 at 9:53 am, cheapseat said:

    can you smell the next 911 brewing? let’s not check arab males in the airports, that’s racial profiling and cair might file a lawsuit through the aclu. let’s wand 80 year old white women, they are so understanding. let’s take away the guns from the agents on board airlines, because as everyone knows, guns kill people and we don’t want those terrorist’s with explosive shoes to worry about getting shot while enjoying the friendly skies of obamaville.

  33. #652170
    On March 18th, 2009 at 10:34 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    The pilot can kill all persons on board anytime he wants to do so. Give him a fighting chance–not KUNG FU training! If you don’t want to trust the pilot with a pistol you shouldn’t get on the plane.
    ***
    Most pilots have military experience–including basic firearms training. Anyone capable of passing the commercial pilot’s license tests and successfully flying a very complex airliner certainly has the good judgement to handle a revolver or semi-automatic handgun to shoot a terrorist dead at a 10 foot distance–without accidentally shooting himself or a passenger.
    ***
    The federally mandated pilot firearms training course is an insult to the pilots. A 1 hour familarization class at a shooting range is plenty good for the job they may have to do to protect their lives and the lives of the passengers–and the lives of the people on the ground in the targets of the next 9/11 style terrorist attack. Stupid POLITICALLY CORRECT POLICIES GET PEOPLE KILLED UNNECESSARILY!
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  34. #652288
    On March 18th, 2009 at 11:43 am, thejim said:

    I don’t like sounding like a “Conspiracy Nut”,however, I suspect that none of this is coincidence. Our President had a well defined agenda coming in and he is implementing it fully. Our country and our citizens are being put in great danger on purpose. I hope that we manage to survive it. I seem to say “It’s going to be a long 4 years” at the end of my comments, but this time I say “The coming disaster won’t take 4 years to materialize”.

  35. #652305
    On March 18th, 2009 at 12:01 pm, 24Klady said:

    thejim #33, you are absolutely correct. I’ve laughed at some of what I considered conspiracy theories and possibly hurt people’s feelings with it. Right now, chunk by chunk those theories are coming true, and I’m stepping up and apologizing. Watching the news is like pages turned to “1984″, any of Ayn Rand, “Soylent Green” with a good dose of “War of the Worlds” thrown in.

    However, numbers speak volumnes. Join the NRA whether you own a firearm of not. Vets and their families need to get involved with their organizations – and be active and verbal. Most of all, the tea parties are gaining in number and that’s an excellent show of support.

    Lastly, do arm yourself and store ample ammunition to safeguard and protect your loved ones. One interruption of the distribution of food will chain reaction into a crisis. I hoard foodstuffs by nature, and if I never use it, I’ll be a hero at the food banks.

  36. #652314
    On March 18th, 2009 at 12:07 pm, nlebou said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 11:27 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:
    Yes, and as sonofdy has pointed out, Obama has significantly changed the rules for government sale of once-used shells (which are reloaded and supply about a third of the ammunition market).

    This was reversed. See it on HotAir

  37. #652754
    On March 18th, 2009 at 5:48 pm, Lindsay said:

    So far, this makes me the maddest of any day in the Obama reign of hell.

    Daily I am afraid to ask what is next. Is this one of the items in the stimulus package that McCain said we won’t know about for months? Unreal.

  38. #652817
    On March 18th, 2009 at 6:57 pm, RetFireman said:

    Can you even buy an AR-15 in California?

  39. #652828
    On March 18th, 2009 at 7:07 pm, RyanInSanJose said:

    RetFireman,

    I believe a severely modified version of the AR-15 is legal in California, although I could be wrong.

  40. #654868
    On March 20th, 2009 at 12:54 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    I went from zero guns to two in less than two weeks in November. I am now going for a third and storing up on ammo. The libs can laugh about this and think whatever they want, but we have some serious problems with Obama and his crew. Better be prepared during “the Obama reign of hell” as Lindsay #37 says.

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