John McCain’s AIG bailout revisionism

By Michelle Malkin  •  March 17, 2009 12:53 PM

George Stephanopoulos of ABC News just wrapped up a Twitter interview with John McCain.

Stephanopoulous was more concerned with McCain’s daughter’s spats than with nailing McCain on his AIG flip-flopping. What a wasted opportunity. (Or as we say in Twitter-world: #fail.)

Preceding the interview, Sen. McCain wrote this on his Twitter page:

“If we hadn’t bailed out AIG = no bonuses for greedy execs.”

During the “Twitterview” with Stephanopoulous this morning, he wrote this:

“i would have never bailed out AIG, the real scandal is billions to foreign banks.”

Stephanopoulous wrote:

“RIght, but didn’t you vote for first TARP, which went to AIG?”

McCain replied:

“voted for first tarp but that doesn’t mean i voted to bail out AIG.”

And then he quickly followed up:

“i voted for first tarp but that doesn’t mean i voted to bail out AIG.”

I don’t know if McCain was deliberately trying to mislead or whether he just has amnesia. But this is as honking an example of AIG bailout revisionism as I have seen attempted by Washington’s enablers. And it’s turning me green with nausea for St. Patty’s Day.

On September 18, 2008, McCain caved in to the Chicken Little climate in Washington and reversed his position on the $85 billion AIG bailout (that came on the heels of McCain joining hands with Obama to support a $25 billion bailout for the automakers):

A day after he dismissed a federal bailout for American International Group, Republican John McCain announced Wednesday that circumstances had forced him to shift his position and that he supported the proposed $85 billion rescue of the insurance giant.

McCain, who in recent days has slammed what he called Wall Street greed and corruption for causing the latest downward spiral of the stock market, said he had to change his position on AIG to protect millions of Americans who could be hurt if the company was forced to seek bankruptcy protection.

“The government was forced to commit $85 billion,” McCain said in a statement. “These actions stem from failed regulation, reckless management and a casino culture on Wall Street that has crippled one of the most important companies in America.

“The focus of any such action should be to protect the millions of Americans who hold insurance policies, retirement plans and other accounts with AIG,” he said. “We must not bail out the management and speculators who created this mess.”

But that’s exactly what the first bailout infusion did. And McCain went along, as did all the other AIG enablers now pounding their fists on TV, in Twitter-land, and everywhere else.

In October, the feds forked over $37.8 billion more to AIG — and I can’t recall McCain making a stink about it then, either. He was too busy proposing a $300 billion mortgage bailout.

Now, he’s against bailout out failing companies in the first place.

We’ll see how long that lasts…

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  1. #651108
    On March 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm, b-cat said:

    That has always been John McCain’s problem. He has no idea what he believes in, and no idea what he’s doing.

    The bigger problem is he’s not alone.

  2. #651112
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:00 pm, RedDog said:

    McCain is a feckless RINO. Enough of this crap. Frank and Dodd should be prosecuted for financial war crimes against the American people, and I wouldn’t care if McCain and the other RINOs were collateral damage.

  3. #651113
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:00 pm, NC BLUE said:

    He is listening to his daughter too much–bashing fellow conservatives–ol Johnie boys favorite sport. He makes Obama look intelligent. Gawd.

  4. #651116
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:01 pm, cheapseat said:

    like daughter like father. they both hate conservatives and they both leave a lot on the table when it comes to smarts, morality, and common sense.

  5. #651119
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:02 pm, lgm said:

    Sad sad. McCain was the best Republicans had to run against Obama. Think what would have happened to the others – - Romney, Huck, …

    When you demand ideological obedience on every issue, you get amoral hacks — McCain, Bush, Gingrich, …

  6. #651120
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:03 pm, bansharia said:

    is twitter the new new useless tech thing? it sho’ is getting alot of attention.
    reminder: not all technology is progress.

  7. #651123
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:04 pm, sonofdy said:

    aaaahhhhuhhhh

    Wake me up when he figures out what the hell he is talking about. To think we had the choice of obama or mccain :roll:

  8. #651124
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:05 pm, Michelle Malkin said:

    is twitter the new new useless tech thing

    Quite the contrary. It can be a very effective, powerful too for organizing and for news-gathering.

    If you know how to use it.

  9. #651125
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:05 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    That has always been John McCain’s problem. He has no idea what he believes in, and no idea what he’s doing.

    Which is why I really was voting against the Obamessiah and not for McCain. (Palin really was the clincherfor Juan getting my vote)

  10. #651127
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:07 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Wake me up when he figures out what the hell he is talking about.

    You’ll be in a perpetual comma.

  11. #651128
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:08 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    You’ll be in a perpetual comma.

    That would be coma. McCain is rubbing off on me.

  12. #651130
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:09 pm, b-cat said:

    McCain was the best Republicans had to run against Obama.

    McCain was the worst. That’s why he got the New York Times endorsement.

    When you demand ideological obedience on every issue, you get amoral hacks

    Something about glass houses and stones goes here. Ideological obedience would have gotten us someone who at least could mouth Reaganesque principles. Instead we got the lefty liberal author of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Lieberman, McCain-Kennedy, etc.

  13. #651131
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:09 pm, sonofdy said:

    You’ll be in a perpetual comma.

    true dat.

  14. #651133
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:09 pm, RTater said:

    John McCain – the best argument against open primaries.

  15. #651134
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:09 pm, DagneyT said:

    I get irritated whenever John McCain is called “Republican”! The ONLY Republican on the ballot I saw was Sarah Palin!

  16. #651135
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:10 pm, mojack420 said:

    once a RINO always a RINO , 2010 its open season on donkeys and rino’s . Time to drain the swamp and start over again.

  17. #651136
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:10 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Watching the Congress and Obama react to AIG is like watching cockroaches that have been illuminated by a flashlight.

    They scurry to the darkness as fast as their legs can get them there.

  18. #651138
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:10 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Rank mendacity. So who is worse? Dodd or McCain? They’re all pals! Time for McCain to form another gang! Let me get my gang plank set up.

  19. #651139
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:11 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Time for John to retire. Play some gold, soak up the Arizona sun, with the proper SPF, don’t want a recurrence of the skin cancer.

    40 years ago he did a real service for his country.

    But he really needs to retire in 2010.

  20. #651140
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:11 pm, b-cat said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:05 pm, hawkeye54 said

    Agreed. I donated money to the NRA for the express purpose of fighting McCain-Feingold. To think I was later forced to vote for him, ughh.

  21. #651141
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:12 pm, DagneyT said:

    It can be a very effective, powerful too for organizing and for news-gathering.

    If you know how to use it.

    Are you offering to teach us, Michelle? You’re the only reason I signed up, and now strange people are “following” me!

  22. #651142
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:13 pm, DagneyT said:

    But he really needs to retire in 2010.

    Arizonans, are you listening?

  23. #651147
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:16 pm, DagneyT said:

    Time to drain the swamp and start over again.

    Historically, D.C. was built on a swamp. Who says God doesn’t have a sense of humor?

  24. #651149
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:18 pm, txvet2 said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:02 pm, lgm said:

    When you demand ideological obedience on every issue, you get amoral hacks — McCain, Bush, …

    Schumer, Franke, Pelosi, Dodd, Obama, Emanuel, …….

  25. #651151
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:19 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:02 pm, lgm said:

    When you demand ideological obedience on every issue, you get amoral hacks — McCain, Bush, Gingrich, Reid, Pelosi, Obama, Chavez, Castro, Putin, Assad, Hussein, Pol Pot

    Fixed it.

  26. #651153
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:20 pm, Flyoverman said:

    txvets2,

    Great minds think a like. :)

  27. #651156
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:21 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    is twitter the new new useless tech thing? it sho’ is getting alot of attention.
    reminder: not all technology is progress.

    #fail

    :)

  28. #651157
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:21 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:16 pm, DagneyT said:

    Time to drain the swamp and start over again.

    Historically, D.C. was built on a swamp. Who says God doesn’t have a sense of humor?

    Looks more like we need to reflood the swamp.

  29. #651159
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:21 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    John McCain – the best argument against open primaries.

    I was always against open primaries long before the last election cycle because I knew the mischief that occured last year would be the result.

    The primaries should be party exclusive. If you want to vote the other party, re-register or wait for the general election

  30. #651160
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:22 pm, love2rumba said:

    John McCain and all these new moralists over the bailouts they approved of over our heads need to just leave and get out of town….once they’ve done that they can STFU.

  31. #651163
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:22 pm, txvet2 said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:16 pm, DagneyT said:

    The founders, not God. He put the swamp there, but they’re the ones who had the foresight to put the government in it.

  32. #651166
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:23 pm, coffee said:

    Mr. “I’ll make them famous”. What a laughingstock.

  33. #651168
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:24 pm, txvet2 said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:20 pm, Flyoverman said:

    txvets2,

    Great minds think a like. :)

    Except that I don’t exempt Bush and McCain…. For that matter, there wasn’t a lot of ideological purity among that list of Republicans, but then we are dealing with lgm.

  34. #651172
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:27 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Except that I don’t exempt Bush and McCain….

    Two thumbs up. Neither passes muster.

  35. #651174
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:27 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Historically, D.C. was built on a swamp. Who says God doesn’t have a sense of humor?

    I thought I heard a story about D.C.’s location being chosen becaus it was on swampland noone else wanted – and its miserable condtions would prompt the politicians to get the business of government over swiftly and return to their more comfortable home grounds.

    Maybe D.C. should be moved to the middle of North Dakota sans air-conditioning with the requirement that Congress meet only between July and September :)

  36. #651178
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:28 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    RTater said:

    John McCain – the best argument against open primaries.

    My solution is a two vote up/down primary ballot. You get to vote FOR one candidate and you get to vote AGAINST one other candidate. Lib ringers like McCain would be unable to win a primary with that ballot because the majority would use their ‘against’ vote – against him.

    Say you have 5 primary contenders. Say one is a flamer and the other 4 are conservative and say that the conservative vote is split equally among the four conservatives.

    What is the minimum percentage of lib infiltration required to get the flamer nominated? Answer – 21%

    So a 21% liberal minority are able to shove their candidate down the throat of the 79% majority merely by there being only one of them.

    My 2 vote ballot idea eliminates that possibility. It allows a conservative majority to nominate a conservative candidate for a change.

    I’ve posted this before and PLEAD for someone to find a flaw in it – kick the tires. If it would work – WE HAVE TO DO IT!

  37. #651182
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:31 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Danceswithdachshunds: I like it!

  38. #651187
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:32 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:05 pm, Michelle Malkin said:
    (Twitter) can be a very effective, powerful too for organizing and for news-gathering. If you know how to use it.

    Ow that hurt!

    It’s not like I didn’t try. I feel like my parents trying to set the clock on their VCR.

  39. #651194
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:35 pm, corona said:

    … and this was the alternative to Barry O
    cant’ even blame the Presidential candidates –
    they were nominated by Americans, not Martians

  40. #651196
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:36 pm, Mookie said:

    I love Twitter. Jake Tapper is a good guy to follow on there. Allahpundit’s Tweets are pretty funny.

  41. #651204
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:39 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    This is what you get when you have an administration full of academics and lawmakers with NO business experience whatsoever. I’m talking about the inexperienced Obama, and his administration that doesn’t include one single business person, and congress, that barely has any qualified people to begin with.

    If only Romney were in charge…

    At least he has a proven business track record…of success.

  42. #651205
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:39 pm, Jeddite said:

    “I’m all for shoveling truckloads of taxpayer money to prop up corrupt, failing corporations when it’s politically expedient to do so, but I’ll have you all know that I’m totally not for shoveling truckloads of taxpayer money to prop up corrupt, failing corporations when it’s no longer politically expedient to do so. Also,… is this thing on?”

  43. #651209
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:41 pm, Bogtrotter said:

    I live in AZ and I concluded he ceased representing me a long time ago. Same problem when i lived in Alaska for 32 years and had “Unca Ted” to deal with. Trouble is, even when people know their politicians are corrupt or clueless they keep voting them in because “the new guy” would have no power and influence.

  44. #651213
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:42 pm, rightisright said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:02 pm, lgm said:

    Sad sad. McCain was the best Republicans had to run against Obama. Think what would have happened to the others – - Romney, Huck, …

    What a stupid thing to say…does not even deserve a reply you fool. You can’t be honest with yourself.

  45. #651214
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:43 pm, rambler said:

    McCain – a day late and a dollar short; if dog rabbit. I would like all elected officials to contain their blame and outrage, button their lips and give me a day of silence. It’s time for solutions and right now, they don’t have any!

  46. #651220
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:46 pm, flenser said:

    It can be a very effective, powerful too for organizing and for news-gathering.

    It might help if it had a slightly less silly name though. “Twitter”? Who thought that one up?

  47. #651221
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:47 pm, BOB said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:02 pm, lgm said:
    Sad sad. McCain was the best Republicans Democrats had to run against Obama. Think what would have happened to the others – - Romney, Huck, …

    When you demand ideological obedience on every issue, you get amoral hacks — McCain, Bush, Gingrich, …

    It’s a serious world we have, thankfully you are available for comedic relief.

    McCain was the best Democrats had to run against Obambi.

    Romney would have easily beat The Messiah, and Huck as VP would not have stopped him, though I would have preferred Sarah Palin any day.

    As for blind ideological obedience on every issue, I’d say you represent that remark.

  48. #651222
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:47 pm, flenser said:

    McCain was the best Republicans had to run against Obama.

    Remember that when lgm says that, he means “the best for the Democrats”. Then his statement makes perfect sense.

  49. #651224
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:49 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    The silver lining: These windbags glory in attention and they are getting it. Now they are center stage demonstrating why we don’t like big intrusive government.

    Go ahead, keep talking! This is fantastic!

  50. #651230
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:50 pm, dominigan said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:16 pm, DagneyT said:

    Historically, D.C. was built on a swamp. Who says God doesn’t have a sense of humor?

    Well, God probably had a good laugh, but it was our Founders who decided on the location to limit the amount of “work” ([cough] interference [cough]) that our Federal Government could accomplish.

    I still say… the best thing we could do to encourage the free market… outlaw air conditioners in Congress!

  51. #651234
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:51 pm, flenser said:

    Remember this.

    Prior to his inauguration, President Obama met with Democrats in Congress and threatened to veto any bills that placed tougher restrictions upon the usage of TARP funds. Some Democrats, seeking greater oversight surrounding the distribution and use of TARP assistance, proposed measures that would govern the second distribution of $350 billion in federal funds for the program. Now, the White House worries that voter disenchantment with banks and bailouts will kill public support for the President’s other initiatives

    .

  52. #651237
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:52 pm, rightisright said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:50 pm, dominigan said:

    … outlaw air conditioners in Congress!

    That’s funny and true.

  53. #651239
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:52 pm, dominigan said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:27 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    ROFL! Great minds…!

  54. #651242
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:54 pm, Misscheryl said:

    Pasadena Phil said:
    The silver lining: These windbags glory in attention and they are getting it. Now they are center stage demonstrating why we don’t like big intrusive government.

    Go ahead, keep talking! This is fantastic!

    Exactly what my husband would say – best thing for the true conservative movement eva!

  55. #651248
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:58 pm, TacitEagle said:

    Mr. McCain, get lost.

  56. #651283
    On March 17th, 2009 at 2:14 pm, cheapseat said:

    the rinos are showing their colors. ahnold in california has raised taxes, but according to drudge yesterday, the gubmint beaurocracy of california is still growing. 42b in debt, but not one single gubmint worker in california loses his job. in fact he hires more. when the collapse comes, it will be bad, because we have not taken the small corrective steps.

  57. #651318
    On March 17th, 2009 at 2:33 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    when the collapse comes,

    hopefully I’ll be gone by then…

  58. #651321
    On March 17th, 2009 at 2:36 pm, Valiant said:

    In a nutshell, this is why he lost the election and is a fatally flawed candidate.

  59. #651328
    On March 17th, 2009 at 2:42 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    hopefully I’ll be gone by then…

    You’ll be leaving us this summer? : )

  60. #651331
    On March 17th, 2009 at 2:43 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    fatally flawed candidate.

    One of TWO.. One of them had to win : (

  61. #651337
    On March 17th, 2009 at 2:47 pm, mike.musculus said:

    #18
    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:10 pm, Pasadena Phil said:
    Rank mendacity. So who is worse? Dodd or McCain? They’re all pals!

    Exactly! Like his daughter, Dodd, HRC, etc, they are Progressives flying a false flag! Read abt the Fabian movement, read about the ideology of the Progressive movement!

    There isn’t a two party system any longer, but a single party with cosmetic names. All the others who aren’t Progressive, or willing to play along, (both D & R) are marginalized, demonized, and pushed out! Why exactly, do you think that both Jindal & Palin have “Search & Destroy” missions (from the “Republican” party, no less…) targeting their political career? The contrast, and the electorates response to it, would expose the Progressives for the sham “2-party” situation they’ve engineered!

    Why do you think McStabbinOurBack was okey-dokey with Opokey’s winning? Because they’re really the same ideologically! They talk a difference, but look at actions — they are truth!

    Yah, I know I sound tinhat! But I said McCain wasn’t supposed to win — he’s built too much power in the Senate, he’s too useful there. And he did throw the election. His people have told tales-out-of-school abt it, and even discounting that, look at who ran his campaign — an Obie suporter! Surrreee he wanted to — so much so he did everything he could to nullify any lead Palin gave him, within 48h of the poll.

    What to do? I haven’t any idea, except to watch and hope that the Heavenly Father provides a way…

    We must do our part, though. We need to educate ourselves on the Constitution and the Founding Father’s writings — so we understand why they did what they did, and can educate others. In that, Beck has the right idea.

    BTW:
    Did a Bush really say that the Constitution was *just a piece of paper, and it needed updating*?

    If so, which Bush? Or is it just myth? (refs, please…)

  62. #651339
    On March 17th, 2009 at 2:47 pm, madshark said:

    This past November’s Presidential Election was probably the most discouraging one that I have participated in. I, too, wasn’t thrilled with McCain as the Republican candidate, but I have to admit to feeling energized when Palin was selected on the ticket. Palin on the ticket almost helped me overlook McCain’s many transgressions, but when McCain voted for the TARP bailout with all of the earmarks attached, that was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me, and I ended up voting for the Libertarian ticket. In my opinion, McCain lost all credibility with that particular vote, and to see him maintaining that he was opposed to the AIG rescue is just nauseating.

  63. #651366
    On March 17th, 2009 at 3:06 pm, mike.musculus said:

    Hey! Here’s an idea! At 1st you might think it goulish, but hear me out and tell me what you think:

    PROPOSAL, CONSTITUTIONL ADMENDMENT:
    All laws, regulation, mandates, etc, that impose a cost on the citizenry (such as unfunded mandates) need to be written in the blood (undiluted[sp?]) of the Elected Offical sponsoring the law. All laws imposing taxes may have *1 and only 1 sponsor from each party.* The blood used must be less than 1hr old, and extracted by Military Medical under the supervision of a 101 person citizen committee randomly chosen 24hrs prior to the bill’s creation. In addition, all aspects of said bill must be completely described in detailed language prior to blood extraction. The bill, after a suitable drying period, may then be voted on.

    In the case of a reconcilled bill, the 2 sponors in each House must supply blood (in the aforementioned manner) prior to a vote on said compromise tax bill.

    If the President feels left out, he can supply the blood for the copy(-ies) he signs — in blood, of course.

    These people are bleeding us dry, maybe — for fairness — in order to bleed us they should contribute alittle, too.
    ;)

  64. #651369
    On March 17th, 2009 at 3:10 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:02 pm, lgm said:

    Are you a masochist, a troll, or just stoned/stupid?

    Hope is not a plan; not all change is good. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST!!!!!

    ECS

  65. #651373
    On March 17th, 2009 at 3:14 pm, conservativesRus said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:03 pm, bansharia said:

    is twitter the new new useless tech thing? it sho’ is getting alot of attention.
    reminder: not all technology is progress.

    YES – Twitter allows yet another step away from real relationships with people and encourages greater dis-connectedness. It’s actually a lib thing – says it encourages people to be connected but then actually takes them away from really being so.

  66. #651381
    On March 17th, 2009 at 3:22 pm, lgm said:

    BOB said (#47):

    Romney would have easily beat The Messiah, and Huck as VP would not have stopped him, though I would have preferred Sarah Palin any day.

    At the time, polls showed McCain as having the best chance to beat Obama. That’s why Republicans chose him over more conservative candidates.

    But hey, if you want to nominate Palin, Limbaugh or Joe Plumber, don’t let me stop you. Do you know where their approval ratings are (maybe 30%)? Compared to Obama (just fell to 60%)?

    There isn’t a Republican office holder today with an approval rating higher than his/her disapproval rating.

  67. #651430
    On March 17th, 2009 at 3:51 pm, Wade said:

    McCain has done enough, wish he would just SFTU and retire. Let his fat-assed apple talk, she is close to the tree.

  68. #651446
    On March 17th, 2009 at 4:00 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    There isn’t a Republican office holder today with an approval rating higher than his/her disapproval rating.

    Because he just got elected president you dullard. Bush’s was higher at this point by the way.

    And you should make a macro for that “just fell to” phrase… you’re going to be using it a lot on that approval rating thing.

  69. #651451
    On March 17th, 2009 at 4:02 pm, sims said:

    And if and when the Porkulus bill tanks the economy will these same Congress people claim that “this wasn’t the bill they voted for”?

  70. #651468
    On March 17th, 2009 at 4:11 pm, emjem24 said:

    McCain has a lot in common with many Americans who believe in nothing at the same time they will believe anything.

    When you have no fixed ideological philosophy and slither around like a changeable chameleon, then don’t be surprised when nobody believes you.

    I don’t believe any of these buffoons, especially the ones who took AIG money.

  71. #651470
    On March 17th, 2009 at 4:14 pm, Salt said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 3:22 pm, lgm said:

    There isn’t a Republican office holder today with an approval rating higher than his/her disapproval rating.

    Please provide a source for this statement.

  72. #651474
    On March 17th, 2009 at 4:14 pm, emjem24 said:

    lgm said:

    When you demand ideological obedience on every issue, you get amoral hacks — McCain, Bush, Gingrich, … Clinton, Carter, Dodd, Frank, Kerry…

    Speak for yourself you partisan hypocrite.

  73. #651489
    On March 17th, 2009 at 4:20 pm, emjem24 said:

    lgm said:

    When you demand ideological obedience on every issue, you get amoral hacks — McCain, Bush, Gingrich, … Clinton, Carter, Dodd, Frank, Kerry…

    Let’s not forget the biggest amoral hack of all…Obummer.

  74. #651492
    On March 17th, 2009 at 4:21 pm, Laree said:

    What is the difference between a RINO and a Blue Dog Democrat? Answer: One of them isn’t pretending to be a Republican.

  75. #651504
    On March 17th, 2009 at 4:28 pm, traveler49 said:

    I don’t even text, why would I want twitter? How many ways do we need to stay “connected” in our society. I much prefer a phone call and after that email me. I’ve been invited to join facebook, myspace etc. and I barely have time to answer my emails. If I want news, I go to my blogs (no more Oregonian) or TV (including FOX). The main difference between now and the 60’s/70’s when I grew up is that everyone has a phone connected to their body (usually in an ear). This is as much as I want to be connected. To each his own, go ahead and twitter your life away.

  76. #651513
    On March 17th, 2009 at 4:31 pm, GraniteMan said:

    Said it once and I’ll say it again. McCain would be POTUS today if, when he went back to DC during the campaign and led the fight to stop the TARP he would be President today.

  77. #651517
    On March 17th, 2009 at 4:32 pm, lgm said:

    NJ-Aviator said (#68):

    There isn’t a Republican office holder today with an approval rating higher than his/her disapproval rating.

    Because he just got elected president you dullard. Bush’s was higher at this point by the way.

    nope.

    Salt said (#71):

    There isn’t a Republican office holder today with an approval rating higher than his/her disapproval rating.

    Please provide a source for this statement.

    Just did. If there were one, you would say who. You can’t. There isn’t.

  78. #651551
    On March 17th, 2009 at 4:48 pm, emjem24 said:

    lgm said #77:

    You’re going to cite a left-wing site to hold up your misleading poll data. What was the sampling? Who was actually polled? What are the comparative polls out there? What about Rasmussen or some of the more independent polling sources?

    Just did. If there were one, you would say who. You can’t. There isn’t.

    Please cite other polls for comparison because certain polls scew certain voting populations disproportionately and you know it.

    Why are you so busy defending the indefensable? Because it suits your ideological scapegoats like the military and evil, greedy corporations?

    You just don’t get it, Math Man. You’re too busy kissing the feet of your new political master when he’ll stab you in the back like all his other sychophants. You’re one deluded masochist.

    Nero fiddled while Rome burned and you’re one of his slave boys serving him up grapes.

  79. #651556
    On March 17th, 2009 at 4:49 pm, Salt said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 4:32 pm, lgm said:

    Salt said (#71):

    There isn’t a Republican office holder today with an approval rating higher than his/her disapproval rating.

    Please provide a source for this statement.

    Just did. If there were one, you would say who. You can’t. There isn’t.

    I asked you to support your statement with evidence. I was willing to read said support, even if it was one of your typical TPM links.

    By your own logic:
    I did not state the name of a Republican that I thought had higher approval ratings than disapproval, therefore none exist.

    Would imply…

    Your own denial to provide a source would also prove a negative:
    You did not provide a source proving that ALL Republican office holders have higher disapproval than approval ratings, therefore no such sources exist.

    The reality is that web searches for disapproval ratings are rather tedious and I was disinclined to expend that much effort on a statement from you that I suspect was entirely fabricated from your own fervent wishing. I also wasn’t going to just guess at it as we often see here with random percentages that are not citing back to a source.

    However, I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt by asking you for the source of your claim.

  80. #651620
    On March 17th, 2009 at 5:28 pm, steveegg said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:12 pm, DagneyT said:

    (from the boss) It can be a very effective, powerful too for organizing and for news-gathering.

    If you know how to use it.
    Are you offering to teach us, Michelle? You’re the only reason I signed up, and now strange people are “following” me!

    You already got a good start. I recommend following Eric Odom, he of the Tea Parties and Don’t Go movement.

  81. #651625
    On March 17th, 2009 at 5:31 pm, steveegg said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:11 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Time for John to retire. Play some gold, soak up the Arizona sun, with the proper SPF, don’t want a recurrence of the skin cancer.

    40 years ago he did a real service for his country.

    But he really needs to retire in 2010.

    Or be retired. And I don’t want his daughter to successfully follow in his footsteps, especially in the McCain clan’s desire to destroy the Republican Party.

  82. #651645
    On March 17th, 2009 at 5:47 pm, lgm said:

    Salt(#79): You can huff and puff until dawn, but you don’t have a name. There isn’t a Republican more popular than Pelosi or Reid or even Barney Frank, let alone Obama. Can you name a Republican more popular than McCain? I don’t think so.

    Republicans in Congress are headed for single digits, like rats following Rush Limbaugh out of town.

  83. #651686
    On March 17th, 2009 at 6:15 pm, tarpon said:

    Who cares …

  84. #651687
    On March 17th, 2009 at 6:16 pm, Salt said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 5:47 pm, lgm said:

    Salt(#79): You can huff and puff until dawn,

    Cute emotional argument, but it doesn’t change the fact that you made up a claim, I asked you for a source, and you claim that my lack of proving you wrong means you’re right.

    …but you don’t have a name.

    Ad Naseum doesn’t make you any more accurate.

    The legislature is not made up entirely of Democrats, nor do all Governors have a (D) after their name. This by itself would disprove your theory that their constituents disapprove of them more than approve.

    There isn’t a Republican more popular than Pelosi or Reid or even Barney Frank, let alone Obama. Can you name a Republican more popular than McCain? I don’t think so.

    Nancy and Harry popular? I suppose it depends on which definition of popularity you are using. It sounds more like notoriety or familiarity. I’ll grant you that a lot of people know who Nancy Pelosi is, but that doesn’t necessarily imply she’s popular.

    The Speaker’s unfavorable rating jumped to 43 percent in a Diageo/Hotline poll released March 5, up from 34 percent at the end of January. And, for the first time this year, Daily Kos/Research 2000 polling shows Pelosi’s disapproval rating eclipsing her approval rating, 38-42, in a poll conducted last week.

    Reid has been sliding in public opinion polls as well. His favorable/unfavorable split was 18-27 in the March 5 Diageo/Hotline poll, down from an 18-20 split in the Jan. 28 poll. His 33-46 favorable/unfavorable split in a recent Daily Kos/Research 2000 — a 13-point differential — is his lowest of 2009 in that poll.

    Source

    So, where congressional approval has upticked in some polls, it appears that the leadership has not.

  85. #651842
    On March 17th, 2009 at 10:17 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On March 17th, 2009 at 1:09 pm, RTater said:

    John McCain – the best argument against open primaries.

    Exactly.

    You know why the Democrats initially said their Michigan and Florida primaries would not count?

    Because they wanted Democrats to vote in the Republican primary!

    That helped McCain win Florida, which was very important for him and the Democratic Party.

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