No holiday safe from the eco-zealots
Yeesh: “Green Your St. Patrick’s Day Partying.”
3. Vegan eatin’: Vegan corned “beef” and cabbage
I’ve never tried this one, but I’ll say this: I’m increasingly impressed with imitation meat meals. Especially vegan junk food (like Foodswings in Brooklyn). But if you want to reduce the impact of your St. Patrick’s Day food — or if you want to cater to your friends who don’t eat meat, here’s a recipe for Vegan corned “beef” and cabbage.4. Have a clothing swap party
Recession BONUS: Dress in green and bring clothes you don’t wear anymore to trade with friends. It’s the cheapest, greenest wardrobe option around! Here is the cheesiest possible video explaining the rules of clothing swap parties.5. Try greener lighting
…which is to say none! That’s right — party by moonlight. Or candlelight. Prove that you can do better than Earth Hour while partying.
Doug Powers says: Spare me.
Call it the wear(y)ing of the Green.
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Some years ago, I was at my mother-in-law’s house in Korea.
I had mentioned several times that I was curious about dog-stew. Much to my surprise, she made it for me that day.
It wasn’t bad at all. Tasted similar to cow. She used a lot of hot spices though, so it might have been hard to tell.
On March 17th, 2009 at 11:21 am, zeroangel said:
My husband’s unit went to Tonga to build a radar building for the Tongans that was the U.S. Task. So he looks around the island and the only birds are fruit bats. You walk down the street and they sell a kind of barbecue and when he would stop and ask what kind of meat it was they would tell him “Chicken” he said to me you wouldn’t believe the size of those chicken Femurs
They would put puppys in bags hang them from trees, and tenderize them…there was a convent on the Island, and they kept a pet dog when my husband asked what the dogs name was, they told him “Lucky” LOL!
Sounds like a bunch of unwashed hippies partying, losing their clothes and barking at the moon. This is nothing new.
Why don’t they just give up on St. Patrick’s Day altogether? It’s an American holiday adopted from a culture of white Europeans. Stuff they usually HATE.
that is just so wrong on so many different levels .
I have been boiling my corn beef all night and now im getting ready to slow cook it on the bbq .
Congratulations on 44-but the “other” you mention-that is illegal in most states but The Soviet of Massachusetts and the People’s Republic of Kalifornia allow it.
My Chest Freezer: AKA Trophy Room: AKA Vegan Free Zone
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Keep the change-I’ll keep my guns
Laree:
I have heard this before as well. Something about the meat tasting better if the animal is beaten to death.
In Korea’s case, I do not know if this has any basis in fact or if it is just an urban legend propigated by dog lovers. However, I do know that leading up to the 2002 FIFA World Cup there was an effort on the part of the Korean government to downplay or even restrict the selling of dog meat.
In any case, dog meat isn’t so widespread in Korea as it used to be. It seems to be a hallmark of developing nations and tends to diminish when a nation becomes wealthier.
Laree:
To add; since it is doubtful that dogs are any more intelligent then cows or pigs; I have no problem with raising dogs for slaughter.
However, I do have a problem with inhumanely killing any animal (ie beating it to death).
I’m tired of corporate commercials kowtowing to the paean gods of a pristine, humanely conscious and uber-friendly environment; (ugly) windmills, (maudlin) whales/polar bears/penguins and the color (sickly) green. Anyone care to drink to that?
James Grenidge
Queens, New York
jesus why don’t these environitwits just go straigt to eating cow sh1t so they would clean up the landscape at the same time they are feeling righteous about their meatless diets. my brother has acreage chuck full of recently recycled veggie burgers.
They’re working on it. Give them time.
So, according to people here, she is dead by now?
There is little wrong with a vegan diet, the lifestyle is the problem. I am a fish-atarian myself and I often don’t eat fish. My weakness is when I am with good friends like John Deaux I go for the ice cream.
I digress, eating vegan was bad for me as I shed 30lbs in 30 dyas and keep it off. I guess that qualifies as killing off a part of myself.
Actually, this is my wife as well.
It was great because when we were dating it forced me to seek out vegetarian friendly restaurants, which mostly tended to be ethnic, and which I may not have tried otherwise.
Now Indian is probably my “put a gun to my head have to choose one type of food to eat for the rest of your life” cuisine.
Man.
At least 30 pounds of yourself!!!
But seriously, good for you. I was simply saying that if you need suppliments, then the diet is not 100% healthy.
P.S, I have a spare 30 pounds you can have.
On March 17th, 2009 at 11:39 am, zeroangel said:
Laree:
To add; since it is doubtful that dogs are any more intelligent then cows or pigs; I have no problem with raising dogs for slaughter.
However, I do have a problem with inhumanely killing any animal (ie beating it to death).
Zeroangle, the Tongans are poor and this is their custom so is men holding hands while walking down the street…the first couple of days while they were there, they kept taking my husband’s hand, he kept removing it after awhile he and the other soldiers just gave up.
When my husband came home, I got a puppy we named him Tonga Tapu, nickname Pooners best friend I ever had. I used to remind him you are so lucky you were born in America, well that, and I used to rub it in that I had opposable thumbs, and could open the refrigerator door too
Laree:
Interestingly, Koreans still hold hands in a similar way, there’s nothing wrong with holding hands. It is perhaps our puritanical / Victorian / homophobic culture that is on the wrong end of the spectrum in regards to holding hands.
In any case, just because something is a custom doesn’t mean it is “right.” Female circumcision in also a “custom” is certain parts of the world.
*is also a “custom” in
Typos… damn
The Greens won’t be satisified until we’re all shivering in the dark!
cpodug, I read that article. It’s disgusting. On the other hand, I did like this comment:
It’s because we’re not a nation of sissyboys.
hehe.
b-cat:
LOL!
zeroangel,
I don’t equate human beings to dogs.
The Hand Holding was like two cultures clashing but after awhile the GIs were like okay if you insist…they really were secure in there masculinity…then of course they knew there was don’t ask don’t tell in place
Nor does anyone except the most unhinged animal rights zealots.
But that doesn’t mean they are the equivalent of a pinata.
Laree:
Nor am I. How do you get that? I am not comparing humans to dogs, I am just making the point that “it’s a custom” isn’t a legitimate defense.
“Tenderizing” live animals is unnecessarily cruel and barbaric no matter what culture does it.
Neither are the Tonganese(?) men. And I dare you to go up to one and call him a sissyboy: )
Hah! Absolutely no contest there! My lawyer would have a field day with him! I would own his little hutt and goat before he even lands the first punch!
Sorry, but the centerpiece of every meal should be something that once had a face.
But I second the motion on ice cream. Or maybe I’ll just have seconds on the ice cream?
Or I could just take him by the hand…
“Sod off, Swampy!”
Yeah – its called unemployment. If I called my (VERY Irish) boss and said “I over did last night, I’m going to work from home” he’ll say something like “Just stay there forever.”
What planet do these morons come from? Clothing swap party? Like I’d want to touch something that touched the skin of a HuffPo reader?
Ewww!
I’m just going to eat my formerly methane producing corned beef without a moment of silence for the cabbage that was horrifically and cruelly torn from the womb of Mother Earth, and quaft my ale made from grains that were harvested with monstrous diesel fume and CO2 producing combines then transported by trains powered by the largest land mobile pollution spewers ever built, chilled in a fridge using toxic chemicals that are aching for their chance to rip the ozone layer a new one and feel pretty damn superior to the HuffPo unwashed dregs.
Mmmm, goat on the barbee! Yummo:)
Well then, when in Tonga – I just took it off my “1000 places to see before I die” list
I don’t know, I could name quite a few “Animal Rights” zealots that would be improved with the dedicated and repeated application of a tire billy to the nugget. Betcha nothing of importance ‘cept hot air comes out.
On March 17th, 2009 at 10:56 am, chapoutier said: (#66)
Sounds like Guinness stout to me.
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zeroangel (#101 and 106), my understanding is that in Korea there is a preferred species of dog for food. I have seen (while driving by) dog breeders, and while the dogs had small cages, I didn’t see beatings. I have also been told that dog meat is supposed to be a delicacy, and not for everyday.
Its a sunny day here with lots of sunlight streaming in my windows and about 65 degrees outside.
So in honor of this article I will now go turn on all the lights in my house and turn up my temperature to 76 degrees (from 72).
I may even put two dishes in the dishwasher and run it as a full load.
So I appreciate all these people reducing their carbon footprint. It gives me more room for mine and I am all about comfort.
Happy StPaddys Day!
You’re right about nothing of importance in their noggins. Repeated applications of a tire billy to other parts of their bodies would surely be more effective in yielding satisfactory results
How did this thread drift to something about the merits of eating dog?
It’s called red wine, but a glass or two a day (less for women) is the healthy dose…
Lunch.
Aren’t these people humaely killing their chickens with windmills or something? They’re supposed to be fine bird cuisinarts.
Beer has natural ingredients, no? How could it not be a healthy alcoholic beverage especially when taken three times a day with meals : )
You suppose that you do not have to supplement a diet with meat. Really, you should as the vitamin and mineral loss is still due to depleted soil and not lack of a “face” (thanks John) in your diet.
Hey, don’t take my word for it. I am stronger, healthier and I do not get tired like my friends do. I moved heavy furniture for 2 days and was the ONLY person who was not sore or who had to supplement their diet with pain killers.
I also notice the people who are knocking the diet are meat eaters and not vegetarians. I would almost compare that to lgm trying to be a conservative.
Aha! But you needed help!!
Wine’s okay, but quoting Tom T. Hall, “I like beer. It makes me a jolly good fellow.” : )
Except we eat vegetables. Lgm has never had a conservative thought, led alone something coherent enough that could accurately described as a thought.
Besides, it’s not so much knocking the diet, it’s knocking the dieters themselves.
kinda like barry bonds….better living through chemicals…
…and as far as I’m concerned a vegetarian pizza(cheese and margarita excluded) is nothing short of a complete and total bastardization of the American Dream.
If you listen really closely, you can hear fruit or a vegetable scream when you eat them.
You suppose that you do not have to supplement a diet with meat.Of course I do. Its called a salad.Moderate meat intake with plenty of veges!!!
The problem with me is the soda and snacks. But to each thier own.
The screams increase the enjoyment of the meal.
…and yet, I am usually the last man standing after a hard days work, have low blood pressure, low pulse rate, low sugar levels, am rarely sick, and have more energy.
Knock away – I feel great!
To get back to the gist of the thread, “Happy St. Paddy’s Day. Herewith the pot at the end of the rainbow
Then I figure I am three or four times as healthy as the average person.
I used to work with a guy in his fifties, skinny as a rail and an avid bicycle rider. He drank soda and ate candy all day long.
As a rule, I eat pretty healthy unless I’m at a Chinese buffet. I just eat more than I should for my activity level.
Bluesoc, you are right. I’m going to save my anger for the dolts in Congress. I have only so much anger to go around before my head explodes. Also, I have too many threads going at once and I have tons of other things to do! See you on the AIG blog.
Kevin K.:
From what my wife tells me, that “species” is balbari, which basically means “mutt” in Korea, so I wouldn’t really say it’s a species so much as a just not a pedigree. I never saw any beatings myself which is why I said earlier that I am not sure if it has any basis in truth or is just urban legend. In any case, I am not so sure if you could call it a “delicacy” in Korea these days. At some point in the past, perhaps, but I think even Koreans are less and less enamored with dog meat; despite it’s supposed qualities as an aphrodisiac.
Plenty more on wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat#Korea
It’s the deer I have a hard time with!
Out with it, Soap -= what you’re REALLY jonesing for is Old Tanker’s Corned Venison neck!
My candles are made of whale oil. Arrr, matey!
What? They said to use more candles.
FREE WILLY!!! thunk, errr well never mind.
…with a 2lb tatter some baked beans and some slaw washed down with a beer (but don’t tell nobody ’bout the beer).
#6 Drink flat beer. We all know that beer contains carbonation, which is CO2
#7 Avoid cabbage. Cabbage contains a large amount of undigestable ingredients that are converted to carbon dioxide and methane among other gases in the large intestines.
#8 Commit suicide. Just think of all the CO2 emissions you will be avoiding by shortening your lifespan. Besides who wants to live a life where you can only wear other people’s clothing, in the dark, while eating variously flavored tofu and vegetable protein?
Does anyone besides me think Michelle Obama’s idea to dye the water in the fountain at the White House green is tacky?
It was an homage to what Chicago does every St. Pat’s day in the river.
I thought that was its natural color.
The Marine Corps lit 4,000 gallons of fuel on fire to create a 10,000 foot long wall of fire to celebrate MCAS-Yuma’s 50th anniversary.
I’m pretty sure my carbon footprint for anything I do for the rest of my life is less than that, so I’ll enjoy a traditional meal, thank you.
Tonga is a Monarchy, complain to the Royal Family about their food preparation practices. In the meantime if people want to get outraged go see how American Ranchers make veal…selective outrage, how old is the veal custom, and how many countries raise calves for veal?
What time’s dinner and what face are you cooking?
Nothing selective about it on my part. I don’t eat veal (nor do I much like the flavor). Nor do I eat fois gras, which actually is a sacrifice on my part.
I am a meat eater a happy meat eater.
Burning your house down is really, really green. /sarc
Hope is not a plan; not all change is good. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST!!!!
ECS
Beer has food value, but food doesn’t have beer value. ‘Nuff said.
ECS
Good “intentions” are experiments gone awry. Liberals are so good at experiments that we have seen their failures up close and personal such as public schools, welfare, War on Poverty, etc.
I’m so sick of these goody twoshoe environmental fanatics lecturing me and others on how to spend our St. Paddy’s Day. I’m 1/4 Irish and I’ll spend it anyway I please.
I’ll have a glass of wine and a good roasted chicken at the expense of these envirowackos.
Good intentions be damned. Pass another lightbulb, my fellow enviroskeptics.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
lgm said:
You feel the need to ridicule good intentions.
The Pathway to HELL is paved with Good Intentions.
I know but the White House wouldn’t be the White House without a sense of formal decorum. There’s a baudiness to coloring rivers and fountains green. I guess they could throw some bubble bath in too for good measure.
correction: bawdy
There is no saving the earth.
There is no such thing as conservation.
No matter how many MPG your “green” car gets, you’re still polluting.
No matter how “green” and mercury filled your light bulbs are, you’re still buring fossil fuels.
No matter how many times you go to the toilet before flushing, you’re still polluting.
GREEN IS THE NEW COMMUNISM.
I think you mean “gaudy”, pure alchemy.
I don’t think its gaudy (or bawdy). Here in RI, they light the top of the capitol building green on St. Pats and pink on whatever the day is we are supposed to be aware of breast cancer as well as other colors on certain other occasions. It is hardly over the top and I think hardly distracts from the decorum.
It’s a little gaudy too, but moreso bawdy.
The crock pot disappointed me. the corned beef was perfect, but the vegetables were terrible.
Don’t add vegetables until close the end of the cooking time or you’ve got mush. Especially the cabbage. I usually pour the liquid off the meat, strain it, skim some of the fat, then add the veggies.
Bawdy probably isn’t the best word for what I’m trying to get at. Bawdy suggests coarseness and raunchiness but there’s a heavy emphasis on sexual lewdness.
The dyeing of the Chicago River, like green beer, green eggs, green bread, green hair, etc. is a stunt. It’s more about action than appearance.
Vegans eat nothing derived from animals. Yes, plants are okay. No, bugs are not. It is okay to have standard pets, but not eat them. (Not every animal rights stance, crazy or otherwise, has a direct correlation with the diet stances.)
Vegetarians eat animal products that do not cause death to the animal-dairy, honey, etc. (Honey may even be debated among vegans.) When dairy products are left in the diet, a supplement is not required.
Some vegetarians also eat fish.
And I appreciate anything hinting to me about easier ways to eat vegetarian, especially at restaurants and around the holidays. I never even liked sausage when I ate meat and thus the real thing, but those Morning Star sausage links? Yum! (And I am an extremely picky eater.) What is so threatening about me buying Boca burgers, anyway? If I hid in that aisle and jumped at a meat-eater and yelled boo, would they back right into the lunch meat or what? I like fake meats because they are tasty, excellent sources of protein, are tasty, provide a good way to find products catering to vegetarians that are not spicy, and are tasty.
This was my first attempt with a crock pot. The magazine assured me that all could safely be placed in the pot in the morning and would be acceptable in the evening. I fully intend to write them a strongly worded letter filled with harsh language and dripping with sarcasm.
Start your letter with:
Your recipe? What a crock of s**t!!
First they came for the cornish game hen and I did not speak up because I do not eat cornish game hen.
Then they came for the venison and I did not speak up because I do not eat venison.
Then they came for the beef brisket and I did not speak up because I did not eat beef brisket.
Then they came for the chicken cutlets and I did not speak up because I did not eat chicken cutlets.
Then they came for my delicious porkchops and after they were gone there were no other meats to enjoy.
Chapoutier,
So my purchasing of Boca burgers and Morning Star sausage links and the like equates not only to an attempt to ban your meat, but a serious enough attempt for you to worry about?
Points for using the slippery slope chant.
NestingHawk,
Boca burgers are a gateway drug to a radical PETA endorsed lifestyle. Sure, you might think it’s fun now, but you won’t be laughing when you see a picture of yourself on CNN holding a “meat is murder” sign.
I just hope you can keep it recreational, otherwise, we’ll have to have an intervention/barbecue.
The problem with “good intentions” is that NO ONE even utters the words until they have done something REALLY bad…..”well I had good intentions?”….so Yea I will ridicule the phrase. One only gets to use it once….after that it is proof positive of utter stupidity.
Obama has trashed any and all decorum the WH had with his treatment of the British PM, his appearance on a comedy show, his refusal to meet with Medal of Honor recipients, on and on. He is trashing the WH as we speak. Green dye in the fountain is the least of our worries with that juvenile running the country.
And don’t forget that even ACORN has “good intentions”.
NestingHawk:
My understanding of the vegan lifestyle is that no animal products can be used. What constitutes an animal though? Since you include insects, I am thinking that at least all animals with a CNS of a form are off-limits. What about animals without? How about jellyfish, which have a simple “nerve net” but no brain? How about sponges? Is whether or not the animal has the capacity to “suffer” or feel pain the cutoff?
If you feel that causing the suffering of animals is cruel and inhumane do you feel compelled to intervene in the senseless killing perpetrated by lions upon gazelles on the African plains? Are lions murderers? Would it be proper or responsible for us as humans to ensure all the lions receive dietary supplements so they won’t kill gazelles?
I think it is questions like these that make me cringe when I hear about vegetarian or vegan diets. It just seems so illogical and arbitrary. I am much happier to not deny my nature in the meantime while waiting for stem cell research to provide us with meat grown in vats.
The road to hell is paved with “good intentions”.
And we will ignore the hypocrisy of your statement as well.
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I don’t blame you. But then crockpot people have different standards for acceptable.
You are right that the green water is the least of the offenses. But there’s a pattern forming. Add to it Michelle’s idea to remove the extra glassware and flatware from the White House dinner tables because it makes people uncomfortable who don’t know what to do with them. Doesn’t it occur to her maybe she should raise her standards instead of lowering the nations?
Well, a few things. I do think if killing animals is unnecessary it shouldn’t be done, so “meat is murder,” while debatable, does not sound as outrageous to me as it does to you. So you would be bothered by that, not me. (If we’re talking about actual outlawing, that would just be stupid. Even if it turns out to be practical to not have anybody eat meat and we eventually accomplish the culture change, for the time being that practice is so contrary to the prevailing culture that such a law’s accomplishments would all be on behalf of the criminal underworld, and that’s likely to be the case for hundreds of years.)
Also, I wouldn’t likely see a picture of myself on CNN period, as I pretty much get all my news from Fox.
I think comparing the average vegetarian to a PETA member is like comparing the average handgun owner to people in bunkers and eating pigeons. PETA people are crazy and they are embarrassing to vegetarians. I did once take a look at their website to ensure they were quite as crazy as I had heard they were, and got to the part about the ideal animal shelter wherein cats would understand each other’s rights and live in harmony, and kept picturing somebody trying to a) explain this to the cats and b) make the cats care. I believe cats are more intelligent than we give them credit for, but community theory? And human sensibilities?
PETA wouldn’t like me. I wear leather shoes for reasons of practicality, I eat dairy products all the time, I’m not against ALL animal testing and don’t check my products carefully against it…
It’s not recreational; it’s a personal ethical choice/ boycott. But have you ever had a grilled portabello sandwich? Those are good. Actually, I wish more grill restaurants would grill some vegetables by themselves. Grilled vegetables are good.