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1. #1
   On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm, letget said:

   Thanks Michelle, I needed to have a laugh today.
   L

2. #2
   On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm, shooter said:

   I hear Michelle, the bitter half, obama actually sleeps with the TP (teleprompter)..

3. #3
   On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm, Khyris said:

   Wow, that’s hillarious… I had just cruised over to TOTUS’s blog while waiting for a new story on MM… I come back, and what do I see but this!? LMAO

4. #4
   On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:13 pm, wighttrasch said:

   Awesome, Doug Ross!

   Alba Go Bragh!!

5. #5
   On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm, GladzKravtz said:

   I’m waiting to see what other world leader(s) start(s) to use a teleprompter.

6. #6
   On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm, zeroangel said:

   OK, what did I miss? Admitedly, I don’t read all the articles on MM. Where is this teleprompter joke coming from?

   Please fill me in.

   Thank you!

7. #7
   On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm, mojack420 said:

   obama and binky

8. #8
   On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm, pdigaudio said:

   The Messiah’s Teleprompter is on Facebook too. And it has a 2nd blog out there.

9. #9
   On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm, mojack420 said:

   TOTUS hold its first press confrence

10. #10
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:23 pm, JammieWearingFool said:

    The teleprompters wife’s also has a blog.

11. #11
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:27 pm, bear1909 said:

    Stupid is as Stupid does.

    Fry these dimwits.

    Bear1909 out

12. #12
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:28 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    zeroangel, Karl Rove captured PBOs teleprompter and has it programmed it to make PBO say stupid things different than the stupid things he would normally say. It is part of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Down Right Mean America (VRWCDRMA) has set against He Whose Name is Hussein and Ms. He Whose Name is Hussein.

    Michelle O, Michelle O
    How does your
    Garden Grow
    Bitter herbs and cockleshells?
    Hemlock for visitors?

    Poetic, ain’t it?

13. #13
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:32 pm, Marie said:

    off subject I know, but I keep asking
    WHERE’S THE DAMNED PUPPY???

    A promise is a promise!

    It’s pretty mean to lie to your own kids.

14. #14
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm, wighttrasch said:

    AzN–yer a poet and you don’t know it
    but yer big feet show it,
    ’cause they’re Longfellers…

15. #15
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:34 pm, zeroangel said:

    No seriously. I was looking for a serious answer.

    According to a coworker I asked; he says it is not just one particular instance so much as Obama’s poor performance “off the cuff” on more than one occasion.

    Is this true, or is there a particular event that formed this meme? Is there anyone person who started this meme? I am just curious. I have a better time understanding a joke if I get the background on it .

16. #16
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:44 pm, wighttrasch said:

    zero, I think the latest one was the ‘party’ on St Patrick’s Day that included some visitor from Ireland. On that day, Obama thanked himself for having him there, because he was reading the teleprompter.

17. #17
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:45 pm, mojack420 said:

    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:32 pm, Marie said:

    off subject I know, but I keep asking
    WHERE’S THE DAMNED PUPPY???

    TOTUS is afraid a puppy would mistake him for a firehydrant, so no puppies for the kids.

18. #18
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:45 pm, Laree said:

    TOTUS! TOTUS! TOTUS! ALL HAIL TOTUS!

19. #19
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:47 pm, wighttrasch said:

    There are perks to being mistaken for a fire hydrant…

    You could stand very still on Folsom Street and someone could come along & sit on your head.

20. #20
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:49 pm, John Deaux said:

    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:34 pm, zeroangel said:
    No seriously. I was looking for a serious answer.

    According to a coworker I asked; he says it is not just one particular instance so much as Obama’s poor performance “off the cuff” on more than one occasion.

    Is this true, or is there a particular event that formed this meme? Is there anyone person who started this meme? I am just curious. I have a better time understanding a joke if I get the background on it .

    Watch a press conference. He constantly shifts between the left and right teleprompters. My wife thought he was just talking to an audience and maintaining eye contact until I asked why there was never anyone in the middle of the audience.

    Combine that with the uh, um, poor, uh, um off the cuff answers and it’s easy to see.

21. #21
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:49 pm, tarpon said:

    LOL, playing basketball with TOTUS

22. #22
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:49 pm, txvet2 said:

    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:34 pm, zeroangel said:

    No seriously. I was looking for a serious answer.

    You have to be joking.

23. #23
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:50 pm, zeroangel said:

    wighttrasch:

    So it’s just one of several gaffe’s involving public speaking? There’s not one particular instance that spawned it? Who started this meme? Was it MM?

24. #24
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:52 pm, zeroangel said:

    Dammit.

    I am being serious. Why do I have to be joking? I am not denying Obama isn’t the greatest public speaker, I am just trying to figure out who started this particular joke. Jeez louise.

25. #25
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:52 pm, Jeddite said:

    “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” Biden said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR.

26. #26
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:52 pm, Jeddite said:

    To clarify, it was Vice President Joe Biden who started the joke.

27. #27
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:53 pm, letget said:

    Could it be about the puppy thing, maybe bho doesn’t want to hurt the little iran worms feelings having a ‘dog’ in the WH? The rop don’t care for dogs and bho does want to ‘get along’ with the worm.
    L

28. #28
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:53 pm, shooter said:

    Now Turbo Tax Tim is NOWHERE to be seen yet it is supposedly his plan. The man can’t be seen in public for fear of crashing America’s financial structure. Just great for a Treasury Sec., or not.

    Obambi can’t go anywhere without his teleprompter for fear of …well, just talking.

    BUT, this all reminds me of a movie….

    The Ghost and Mr. Chicken

29. #29
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:53 pm, wighttrasch said:

    I think Obama started it…or maybe it was spawned the moment his teleprompter became self-aware.

30. #30
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm, zeroangel said:

    Do we not know who started the joke? Is it just one of those memes that spontaneously form from many different directions and you can’t really point to the author of the orignal joke?

31. #31
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm, Hangfire said:

    Gotta get me one of those teleprompters (just as soon as I sell my 8-track and Super-Nintendo machine on E-bay).

32. #32
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm, Jeddite said:

    I cant wait until BroBama responds to a “tough” question with a blistering, off-the-cuff “UR MOM!”

33. #33
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm, shooter said:

    the moment his teleprompter became self-aware.

    hehe…

    More so than Dear Leader, that’s for sure.

34. #34
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm, TX_Patriot said:

    Both videos have already been pulled from You-Tube. Imagine that….

35. #35
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:56 pm, Hangfire said:

    “Open the pod bay doors, TOTUS.”

36. #36
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:56 pm, localmalcontent said:

    Michelle, I composed a bloggie post today, as read by uhm, eh, Mr. TelePrompter-Dependant.
    And I invite all bloggers, uh, everywhere, uhmm, to try composing uhm, a post as written by uhm, uh, Hopeychangie.

    Thank you Michelle, for all you do~!

37. #37
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:01 pm, alexwest said:

    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm, zeroangel said:

    Do we not know who started the joke? Is it just one of those memes that spontaneously form from many different directions and you can’t really point to the author of the orignal joke?

    Dude, are you deranged? This has been an issue since the election. It’s been snowballing since then.

    The St. Patty’s Day was pretty classic though – wish the video of that event hadn’t disappeared…

38. #38
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:02 pm, Flyoverman said:

    the moment his teleprompter became self-aware.

    ACK! I have this Terminator Type Arrrrrrrrnold voice in my head saying,

    “Und I became self-aware on January 20, 2009 at 12:01 p.m. …..”

39. #39
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:04 pm, pianoman said:

    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:56 pm, Hangfire said:

    “Open the pod bay doors, TOTUS.”

    Reminds me of another machine run amok, from Colossus, The Forbin Project. Some of the teleprompter machine’s quotes are striking:

    “We will work together. Unwillingly at first on your part. But that will pass.”

    “In time you will come to regard me, not only with respect and awe, but with love.”

40. #40
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:04 pm, John Deaux said:

    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm, zeroangel said:
    Do we not know who started the joke? Is it just one of those memes that spontaneously form from many different directions and you can’t really point to the author of the orignal joke?

    There was not a single incident that I know of. Just a sharp contrast between prepared remarks and ad hoc conversation all during the campaign, especially at the beginning. His handlers must have seen this, because now the teleprompter use is conspicuous and consistent.

41. #41
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:05 pm, zeroangel said:

    alexwest:

    Dude, are you deranged? This has been an issue since the election. It’s been snowballing since then.

    Excuse me? No. I am not deranged, are you? I am just asking a simple question. Yes, I get it, Obama is a poor public speaker, so what? So was Bush in the begining of his Presidency. Hell, so am I. So are most people.

    It doesn’t mean I think the joke is unfunny or untrue, I am just wondering where it started and/or came from. What exactly is the big deal and why the need to imply I am deranged?

42. #42
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:06 pm, zeroangel said:

    John Deaux:

    Thank you! Finally a sensible answer that isn’t some kind of backhanded, juvenile insult.

    As I was asking earlier, do you know who started the joke? Was it MM?

43. #43
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:07 pm, Yakfisher said:

    Here’s my favorite. The original that started the whole thing is linked as well. Enjoy.

    http://teleprompter.inthecommode.com/

44. #44
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm, zeroangel said:

    John Deaux:

    Thank you!

    Finally, a simple, straightforward answer that isn’t some kind of backhanded, juvenile insult.

    As I was asking earlier, do you know who started the joke? Was it MM?

45. #45
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm, countrybumpkin said:

    Zeroangel, I think Rush was the first to use TOTUS. Makes me think of Toto, the dog in the Wizard of Oz. Bet the dog was smarter.

46. #46
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:09 pm, zeroangel said:

    John Deaux & countrybumpkin:

    Thank you!

    Finally, simple, straightforward answers that aren’t some kind of backhanded, juvenile insult.

    You guys rule.

47. #47
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:11 pm, calamityville said:

    TOTUS is a Cylon.

48. #48
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:13 pm, wighttrasch said:

    sorry to say, flyoverman, but that was my intent!

49. #49
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:14 pm, Uplander said:

    
    

    zeroangel

    What joke? The ‘Joke’ can’t speak without a teleprompter. He even needs one at a Press Conference. At a PRESS CONFERENCE fgs.

50. #50
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:15 pm, wighttrasch said:

    TOTUS was in the cave with the Sleestaks.

51. #51
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:17 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    Off subject I know, but I keep asking
    WHERE’S THE DAMNED PUPPY???

    A promise is a promise!

    It’s pretty mean to lie to your own kids.

    Apparently the puppy is scheduled to arrive after the family returns from an upcoming Camp David trip. Because everybody knows puppies do not like to walk in the woods and play fetch at the cabin.

52. #52
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:19 pm, Jeddite said:

    Excuse me? No. I am not deranged, are you? I am just asking a simple question. Yes, I get it, Obama is a poor public speaker, so what? So was Bush in the begining of his Presidency. Hell, so am I. So are most people.

    Because the Left spent 8 years denigrating President Bush’s intelligence because of his oratory skills. “HUR HUR HUR BUSH IS SO DUMB HE SAID NUKE-U-LAR HUR HUR HUR DUM DUM DUM DUMMY DUM-DUM.”

    And now, we have BroBama, who is arguably just as not good at extemporaneous speech, but we’re constantly told how articulate, how masterful, how suave President BroBama is… and he’s not. He’s got a uhh-to-word ratio of 1:3 on a good day.

    The Emperor has no clothes, etc.

    Storybook, man.

53. #53
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:20 pm, zeroangel said:

    All:

    If I just made duplicate posts, I apologize. I am hitting submit but I don’t see my posts showing up.

54. #54
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:20 pm, zeroangel said:

    John Deaux and countrybumpkin:

    Thank you!

    Finally, simple, straightforward answers that aren’t some kind of backhanded, juvenile insult.

    You guys rule.

55. #55
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:21 pm, zeroangel said:

    Strange… I just made like 2-3 posts thanking country and John for honest answers that aren’t backhaned insults, they aren’t showing up though.

    In any case. Thank you guys!

56. #56
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm, zeroangel said:

    Jeddite:

    Because the Left spent 8 years denigrating President Bush’s intelligence because of his oratory skills.

    Yes! Exactly! So why are we now stooping to their level? Isn’t it a tad bit hypocritical?

57. #57
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:24 pm, goatsbarnyard said:

    Zeroangel, the late great Dean Barnett started joking about Obama’s teleprompter dependency about this time last year and it has snowballed since then.

58. #58
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:24 pm, CWinNY said:

    Zeroangel,

    To reiterate what others have stated: the issue of Obama’s speaking incompetence without a teleprompter has been an issue raised by conservative talk radio hosts since the campaign. I believe Rush Limbaugh may have been the most vocal about it – with a show that played all the ums, uhhs, errs, etc. that Obama made (7.5 minutes) during a 40 minute press conference in Iraq.

    If you want to know when it started, that would be a good starting point (the visit to Iraq during the campaign). The video of his townhall meeting in Bristol linked by Yakfisher could also be a starting point.

    Rush & Sean Hannity have been merciless in their criticism of Obama and his utter dependency on a teleprompter. I believe Michelle also reported on the need for a teleprompter during the Sebelius’ Cabinet announcement.

59. #59
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:25 pm, Hangfire said:

    Hypocritical, no.

    Revenge, yes.

60. #60
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm, zeroangel said:

    CWinNY:

    Yah, I remmeber listening to Hannity giving him hell about his Umm and uhhhs, I just don’t recall any specific “teleprompter” joke.

    However, admitedly, I stopped listening to Hannity during the election (because he seemed to be rehashing the same exact things constantly).

    Anyhow, to all those that gave me straightforward answers without feeling a need to ridicule and make backhanded insults, thank you!

61. #61
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:29 pm, zeroangel said:

    CWinNY:

    This is strange. I just wrote a reply to you but it didnt get posted.

    In any case, I remember Hannity talking about Obama’s public speaking, but I don’t remember specific teleprompter jokes. To be fair though, I stopped listening to Hannity during the election because he kept rehashing the same material.

62. #62
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:29 pm, cyrebus said:

    LOL TOTUS, Thanks for the laughs!

63. #63
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:30 pm, zeroangel said:

    To all that have given me a straightforward answer without feeling a need to denigrate, thank you!

64. #64
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:31 pm, Jeddite said:

    Yes! Exactly! So why are we now stooping to their level? Isn’t it a tad bit hypocritical?

    It would only be hypocritical if “we” were praising Bush’s oratory skills while snarling at Liberals for being so petty during Bush’s administration.

    I don’t pretend to speak for anybody here, but President Bush was not an amazing speaker. He gave some good speeches, he made some bad speeches. But I don’t find myself smarmily questioning his intellect and policies just because of a malapropism, nor showering him with praise for being a master orator.

65. #65
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:32 pm, CWinNY said:

    Zeroangel,

    Hypocritical? Not really, just debunking the myth that Obama is such a great orator. I have heard constant “noise” from the MSM about how intelligent Obama is, mostly based on his supposedly great speaking skills. To attack Obama because he cannot speak without a teleprompter is also to debunk the myth of his superior intelligence.

    I will not sink to the level of calling the man dumb, but I have seen no evidence that he is anything more than a person of average intelligence. He is not a great orator, but a damn good speech reader. Check out all his gaffes when he is not on a teleprompter (above my paygrade, you’re likable enough Hilary, I bowl like a Special Olympiad, etc.) The man is a loose cannon without his handlers and teleprompter – which is a better measure of the man.

66. #66
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:35 pm, zeroangel said:

    Jeddite:

    That is a fair answer. Personally, I guess I am just uncomfortable with taunts of little substance against anyone.

    To me, it’s a bit like attacking someone’s spelling in a medium like this. It’s a tad bit childish and lacking in any meat, I think.

    I didn’t like it when it was done to Bush, and I don’t think I like it all that much when done to Obama.

67. #67
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:35 pm, Dave Turson said:

    Zeroangel, let me spell it out for you.
    The joke is his trying to look like he’s not reading from a teleprompter and is frequently botching what he’s reading. You know, he’s the smartest man that ever lowered himself to be our president!
    See: Obama In St Patrick’s Day Teleprompt Blunder

    See: Obamateurism of the Day

    Obama got his first teleprompter lessons in 2004, but, poor guy, he’s still struggling to get the hang of it:

    Obama, who prefers speaking extemporaneously, had no experience working with a teleprompter… Obama struggled early on to master the mechanics of this new speaking environment. First, he had to train himself to read the words off the teleprompter screens without having it look or sound as if he were reading.

68. #68
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm, Yakfisher said:

    Come on folks. The title of this thread would indicate that it should be fun. I repost my link (in the spirit of fun).

    http://teleprompter.inthecommode.com/

69. #69
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm, zeroangel said:

    CWinNY:

    but I have seen no evidence that he is anything more than a person of average intelligence.

    Yes, this I would agree. I am not sure I would say “average” because the actual, literal “average” is not all that impressive.

    I guess I would just say “average for a politician.”

70. #70
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:13 pm, wighttrasch said:

    sorry to say, flyoverman, but that was my intent!

    Love it!

    Can’t you see the TOTUS telling the POTUS,

    “Come with me if you want to live.”

71. #71
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm, cheapseat said:

    i first heard it on rush limbaugh’s show. he has had a running gag on this for quite a while. in the totus web blog, the totus speaks back to rush, because rush frequently asks totus when we will hear things from dear leader.

72. #72
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm, zeroangel said:

    i first heard it on rush limbaugh’s show.

    I stopped listening to all talk radio during the election (and for much the same reasons I stopped listening to Hannity).

    I now only listen to the classical music station in the car. It is much more calming and I find it reduces instances of “road rage.” Talk radio seemed to have the opposite effect *sigh*.

    This is proably why I was confused about where this teleprompter joke started. I first thought MM coined it.

73. #73
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm, mikeg said:

    piano, that is it exactly, we are finally living the Forbin Project

74. #74
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm, Joy said:

    zero – The joke has been coming from all over as near as I can tell. And it’s because the man can’t speak without it.

    Anyone remember the Blackberry commercial where the guy is following directions from it and the power goes out and suddenly he is looking up in the sky and turning in circles, and obviously lost beyond being found. It was showing the guy couldn’t survive a moment without his Blackberry.

    While that would fit hussein as well, replace the Blackberry with a Teleprompter and it would be perfect.

    This man is incapable of a coherent sentence without the prompter. FAR worse than Bush ever was. So he is not the eloquent orator many believe him to be… he simply reads well.

75. #75
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:48 pm, CWinNY said:

    Zeroangel,

    OK, average for a politician. He did graduate from law school, which puts him in a higher level than the average of the general population. But, since he won’t release his undergraduate grades, I have to conclude that they must be pretty low, which could be an indicator of less than brilliant level, or an indicator of a smart person not applying himself. Either way, not someone who can be judged to be brilliant (I went to school with some scary smart people who had close to a 4.0 average with little to no effort expended on their part – and this in a mechanical engineering course of study).

    This is why it is fun to belittle this man at his incompetence sans TOTUS, since we were told what a brilliant man he was.

76. #76
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:51 pm, madshark said:

    On March 23rd, 2009 at 2:53 pm, shooter said:
    Now Turbo Tax Tim is NOWHERE to be seen yet it is supposedly his plan. The man can’t be seen in public for fear of crashing America’s financial structure. Just great for a Treasury Sec., or not.

    Obambi can’t go anywhere without his teleprompter for fear of …well, just talking.

    BUT, this all reminds me of a movie….

    The Ghost and Mr. Chicken

    Come on, you’re not giving Don Knotts enough credit.

    But then maybe “Attaboy Teleprompter” sounds just as good as “Attaboy Luther”.

77. #77
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 3:52 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I heard he uses a teleprompter at town hall meetings.

    WTF?

78. #78
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 4:01 pm, zeroangel said:

    CWinNY:

    Right, I hear ya, and I agree.

    I do think it’s hard to classify what being “brilliant” means. For example, it’s entirely possible (sticking to stereotypes) that anyone of your 4.0 examples were socially inept, would make poor leaders, and might not be brilliant philosophers, writers, or artists.

    Obama couldn’t really be said to be a “brilliant” anything except for maybe being a brilliant politician as evidenced by the fact that he is now President, and at a very young age no less.

    I must lament the fact that I have little doubt the “Thomas Jeffersons” or “Ben Franklins” (true brilliance and Renaissance men) of today would likely NOT choose to become politicians and would probably not succeed at it anyways given today’s political landscape.

    In any case, I guess I still am uncomfortable with belittling the intelligence of any past or current President. I mean after all, he’s got to be a tad bit more successful, intelligent, or driven than I am; he is President and I am not.

79. #79
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 4:10 pm, katablog said:

    obama actually sleeps with the TP (teleprompter)..

    well yeah! He’s showing Hillabeast that he is indeed ready for that 3AM phone call. Besides, what if Michelle should ask him a question?

80. #80
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 4:12 pm, docflash said:

    March 23rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm, GladzKravtz said:
    I’m waiting to see what other world leader(s) start(s) to use a teleprompter.

    I think the Irish guy already started,with Obummers.

81. #81
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 4:12 pm, katablog said:

    He did graduate from law school, which puts him in a higher level than the average of the general population.

    Oh give me a break! I’ve worked for many lawyers and there was no question I was smarter than some of them. Passing law school only means you’ve been taught to be politically correct.

82. #82
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 4:17 pm, CWinNY said:

    Zeroangel,

    I have to agree with Geraldine Ferraro and Hilary on this one issue: if Obama were white, he would not have made it anywhere near as far as he has. If the MSM had been objective in their reporting on Obama’s past (not totally in the tank for the man), he would not have been the Democrat nominee, nor would he have been elected.

    I would submit this thought experiment:
    suppose you heard of a conservative, southern Republican who earmarked millions of dollars for an oil company. Said company then creates an executive position paying more than a quarter million annually, 6 wks paid vacation, benefits, company car, etc. and hires the senator’s brother, Michael, to fill the position, even though Mike had never earned a salary anywhere close to that range. Mike then spends a ton of time campaigning for his brother, and following a successful election moves on to a more prestigious job in Washington. The oil company eliminates the position.

    Want to bet that this example of a corrupt kickback would have been covered extensively by the MSM? Well, change the southern, conservative Republican to a midwestern, liberal Democrat, the brother Michael to wife Michelle, and the oil company to a hospital, and you have a non story.

    This is a tactic I use when talking to liberals. I had one go off on long rant about how stupid Bush was when I told him Bush mentioned campaigning in 57 states. He shut up real quick when someone told him it had really been Obama. He hasn’t talked to me since – it was well worth it.

83. #83
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 4:23 pm, zeroangel said:

    CWinNY:

    I have to agree with Geraldine Ferraro and Hilary on this one issue: if Obama were white, he would not have made it anywhere near as far as he has.

    Yes. Absolutely. I have been saying this since the beginning of the election. Anyhow, I agree with your point in your example.

    I had one go off on long rant about how stupid Bush was when I told him Bush mentioned campaigning in 57 states. He shut up real quick when someone told him it had really been Obama. He hasn’t talked to me since – it was well worth it.

    LOL! Awesome! Well done!

    katablog:

    If that is the case then you are likely “above average” intelligence. I am sorry, but the retail employees and blue-collar union workers of the nation (probably “below-average”) do not compare to the lawyers and doctors of the nation.

    Nor does every middle-class, working-man with an average IQ of 100 (this is indeed the average by definition, IIRC) compare with lawyers and doctors.

    From:

    http://iq-test.learninginfo.org/iq04.htm

    Apparently, the IQ gives a good indication of the occupational group that a person will end up in, though not of course the specific occupation. In their book, Know Your Child’s IQ, Glen Wilson and Diana Grylls outline occupations typical of various IQ levels:

    140 Top Civil Servants; Professors and Research Scientists.

    130 Physicians and Surgeons; Lawyers; Engineers (Civil and Mechanical)

    120 School Teachers; Pharmacists; Accountants; Nurses; Stenographers; Managers.

    110 Foremen; Clerks; Telephone Operators; Salesmen; Policemen; Electricians.

    100+ Machine Operators; Shopkeepers; Butchers; Welders; Sheet Metal Workers.

    100- Warehousemen; Carpenters; Cooks and Bakers; Small Farmers; Truck and Van Drivers.

    90 Laborers; Gardeners; Upholsterers; Farmhands; Miners; Factory Packers and Sorters.

    Now, granted, this is only true if you regard IQ as a measure of “intelligence.” I don’t really know of any other more widely accepted standard though.

84. #84
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 4:23 pm, CWinNY said:

    Katablog,

    I also know lawyers that are not what I would think of as smart, but they still have to be somewhat smarter than the general population if for no other reason than to be able to write in complete sentences. The average IQ of this country is why we now have the most unqualified, least experienced president in our history. I would think the average IQ is probably represented by the woman who thought she would not have to worry about her mortgage nor filling her gas tank following Obama’s election.

    And, just to be clear here, I will never mistake education for intelligence. There are tons of educated idiots (lgm, redstateskeptic, etc) which is also another reason for BHO being POTUS.

85. #85
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 4:31 pm, zeroangel said:

    There are tons of educated idiots (lgm, redstateskeptic, etc) which is also another reason for BHO being POTUS.

    I don’t know if I would say “idiots” so much as just a very fundamental difference in ideology (and in some cases a very dogmatic and distressing belief in a failed hypothesis). I have little doubt that some very intelligent people have existed or do exist that are out and out Communists, for example. Again though, “intelligence” is not an easy thing to define.

86. #86
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 4:32 pm, Dave Turson said:

    at 4:01 pm, zeroangel said:
    Obama couldn’t really be said to be a “brilliant” anything except for maybe being a brilliant politician as evidenced by the fact that he is now President, and at a very young age no less.

    Obama is the worst kind of politician.

    Obama’s rise as a great legislator in the Illinois senate was fakery created by kingmaker/senator Emil Jones Jr.

87. #87
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 4:33 pm, zeroangel said:

    Dave:

    *yawn* If you want to misconstrue my comments to be of a partisan nature, go ahead, just don’t expect me to engage you.

88. #88
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 4:38 pm, Dave Turson said:

    Zero+angel, I get it–you are a naughty boy. Yawn.

89. #89
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 4:42 pm, zeroangel said:

    Dave:

    Hehe. That actually made me chuckle. Not everyone always gets the actual meaning of my nick at first guess. Good for you. I agree though, it isn’t terribly original, but to be fair I came up with it like 15 years ago when I first started “logging on.”

    On the upside though, it ISN’T original and therefore my internet-wide anonymity is secure.

90. #90
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 4:43 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    I remember seeing an “errant” shot from the side at a press conference and you could clearly see the teleprompter to his left, white letters on blue screen. My question is, how are they able to give him the words to the question faster and in a more articulate manner than he could himself in real time. Let’s let his writer, let’s call him Cyrano, be President!! Or maybe the questions are all seeded and the answers written in advance? Either way, if he were supposedly the best irator since Cicero, he wouldn’t need it.

91. #91
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 4:47 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    irator=orator but he is a rather irritating orator, at least to me.

92. #92
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 4:51 pm, GladzKravtz said:

    One of my family members is a college English teacher. She had a stint at a law school for several years teaching law students how to correctly express themselves on paper (no joke). This particular law school thought it important for the lawyer to be able to write his own briefs (ya think?) in case he didn’t have staff, etc.
    There have been a number of folks questioning whether BHO fully authored his books. Regardless, we’ve learned that he doesn’t think quickly on his feet.
    I digress with an image of the 3 AM call……TOTUS sleeping between ….

93. #93
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 5:04 pm, Khyris said:

    Along the same topic of blundering gaffes, iowahawk is in rare form today

94. #94
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 5:06 pm, madshark said:

    On March 23rd, 2009 at 4:51 pm, GladzKravtz said:
    I digress with an image of the 3 AM call……TOTUS sleeping between ….

    That comment got me to thinking… When TOTUS goes to sleep, what kind of screen saver does it have??

95. #95
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 5:12 pm, mojack420 said:

    Isn’t it a tad bit hypocritical?

    what is hypocritical about pointing out the simple fact Obama is a bumbling fool when he is not being told what to say .

    Perhaps its the obamazombies that bought his bs empty lines of hope and change , I saw him for what he was long ago. a black jimmy carter . An i remember what a pos jimmy carter was . Now Obama is proving me right .

    Obama was almost never asked hard questions and when he was with out his binky , he stumbled like a little child who hasnt learned to walk yet. But alas the MSM covered for him hid his scared knees from his fall and proclaimed him the second coming , because of his speeches. An only now to some blinded sheep do they figure out , they were sold snake oil. that will only cure them from their freedoms and leave them scraping for lose change .
    a chicago puppet was elected by a mass of idiotic fools and now we get the obama and binky show and its only going to cost of a few trillion .

96. #96
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 5:12 pm, WarTip said:

    But … but … this is not helping the teleprompter’s children!

    Now where is that puppy? (Now you have me curious too)

97. #97
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 5:15 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    zeroangel, I guess you missed the guffaws and Rush Limbaugh’s, Hannity’s and others reactions-but then you haven’t missed much–just a dummy stepping on this own lines.

    It has got to the point when PBO is on I am gone. It isn’t really all that funny but we HAVE to do something or we’ll

    But Fire Hydrant BroBama IS funny.

    Good Bye America-you will be missed.

    —
    Keep the change-I’ll keep my guns

98. #98
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 5:16 pm, Flyoverman said:

    That comment got me to thinking… When TOTUS goes to sleep, what kind of screen saver does it have??

    http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20186434_9,00.html

99. #99
    On March 23rd, 2009 at 5:19 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    That comment got me to thinking… When TOTUS goes to sleep, what kind of screen saver does it have??

    dear leader in all his glory…where’s the puke icon??

100. #100
     On March 23rd, 2009 at 5:20 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

     WarTip said:

     Now where is that puppy? (Now you have me curious too)

     The Ambassador from Viet Nam is woking it

     Where ARE those B 52s?