Guess who else thinks ICE agents are unpatriotic?
Nancy Pelosi isn’t the only one who thinks hard-working men and women in interior immigration enforcement are unpatriotic.
If you can stomach it, watch the whole ICE-bashing diatribe. The “anti-American” smear gets tossed in at the end. And yes, that’s McCain open-borders Hispanic outreach advisor Juan Hernandez sitting next to the smear merchant, followed by another statement from Nancy Pelosi that work raids by investigators probing fraudulent document rings are “just not the American way. It must stop:”
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I guess enforcing the law is now anti-american.
sickening.
He thinks ICE exists for the purpose of breaking up GANGS? For crying out loud.
Who does he think is transporting all these people into the country anyway?
Absolutely surreal that people can say crap like this AND still get popular support.
Pelosi’s on drugs and Jaun is probably her supplier.
So therefore, it must be patriotic to break the law! Let’s start with any draconian tax the Administration tries to foist upon us.
Geraldo!
I spit on you.
How long before Queen Nancy says the borders are racist, our troops are unpatriotic, and that she’s been dead for thirty-two years but animated by a series of injections of an amalgamation of botox, the stem cells of Christian embryos, and pureed thousand dollar bills?
Sorry for the stupidity, but I really dislike that “woman???”.
I was gonna guess Arlen Spector
I don’t need Mr. Rivera’s opinion, thank you very much. Apparently, it’s beyond his limited intelligence that ICE was entirely within it’s purview to conduct raids on plants for immmigration ENFORCEMENT (it’s even part of their name) purposes, and ICE is rarely able to do that due to lack of manpower. ICE usually goes after criminal aliens (they’re all criminals, but they concentrate on those who commit other crimes as well), but who is PELOSI or RIVERA to tell me that identity theft, smuggling and trafficking are merely small crimes? Not to mention white slavery. What utter putzes. These idiots don’t even know the role ICE is designed to play in law enforcement.
I have no use for Geraldo. His logic is so distorted that it is laughable. I resent being called a racist because I want the borders closed to illegals. Please America, wake up and help us protect ourselves from this idea that there is no right and no wrong.
Viva El Tancredo!
And this would be a good place to add my favorite comment…..Pelosi is a twit!
I will not listen to the ’spitter’ when he is on tv, it gets muted. This mans view on illegals is ‘un-American’! The illegals need to go back to their home, All of them. Come back legally and you will be welcome.
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Are gays in San Francisco so determined to get married that they keep sending this idiot Pelosi back to Congress to destroy what’s left of America? I refer to gays because I don’t think that she would be in Congress without their support.
Instead of dressing like freaks and storming churches, maybe they could just stand up for the Constitution and do what’s right. Then, maybe they’ll get more respect and cooperation from people in this country who actually believe in the Constitution.
This is not gay bashing. I’m suggesting that a very influential group of people could start the process of saving our country from far left radicals by sending this idiot back home where she couldn’t harm anyone but herself.
Put a border fence around San Francisco and put Nancy inside it.
Well, IMAO, I think San Fran Nan, Juan Hernadez, and Geraldo “Spit Head” Rivera are all un-American.
Seeing as I can’t see the video, I’m guessing it’s Arlend Spector (spelling intentional).
Then what do we do with the many illegals at those sites using regular citizen’s Social Security numbers?
Let them go on working while the citizen deals with the tax and social security problems?
Jerry Rivers is welcome to go F himself.
That is all.
Are all other border agents that protect other nations borders racist? Seems like every nation in the world enforces its borders and the USA is the only one that doesn’t. Why is the USA only singled out? Why can’t it enforce its borders while Mexico itself does?
Here we go loop-the-loop. Rivera will always find fault with enforcement of immigration laws.
I think you may have mispelled a word.
At some time, at some place these idiots will have an epiphany and wake up to reality. This will happen when someone else’s “right” is a real strong “wrong” for them. Let them deal with a gang of illegals pilfering through their houses or killing their kids on the highways. Who will they be able to sue? Surely there must be someone to sue for this accidental misfortune.
Nancy’s and Geraldo’s sanctimonious drivel needs to stop. They don’t know the meaning of the American Way.
Hawkeye, very funny!
Gerry Rivers talks as if being a veteran war correspondent is the same as being a veteran. Memo to him: It isn’t.
But he has a point about the raid of Agriprocessors, the kosher meat plant. And I’ve documented here why that raid was absurd and useless.
Many of the ICE agents on the raid wrote to me about how absurd it was. It was all done for show so that Julie Myers could get on TV. it cost taxpayers $10 million and many of those arrested were later released. If they allowed ICE agents to arrest illegal aliens on the street, it would cost far less. And there were actually over 1,000 agents on the case, not just 900. They spent a week in Iowa on your dime waiting for this raid if only 300 or so aliens.
And, in fact, most of the Guatemalan illegal aliens (he’s wrong–there were very few Mexicans) were mostly replaced by Muslim Somalian aliens with documents allowing them to come here and work at the planet. Whom would you rather have in America–Guatemalan Catholic illegal aliens, or Somalian extremist Muslims?
Until we set priorities about which illegal aliens we arrest and deport–ie., the type that were on the 9/11 planes–(and we never will b/c of the ACLU and Muslim groups) it’s kind of pointless to do these show-raids.
Because the open-border, one-worlders hate what the US stands for and they want to use a flood of unfettered immigration as one segment of their plan to bring the US down.
Nancy Lugosi has illegals working at her posh little resort in Sonoma, I belive it is. I heard this long ago when I was working in CA. It was well known and was a joke.
Gerry Rivers talks as if being a veteran war correspondent is the same as being a veteran. Memo to him: It isn’t.
But he has a point about the raid of Agriprocessors, the kosher meat plant. And I’ve documented here why that raid was absurd and useless.
Many of the ICE agents on the raid wrote to me about how absurd it was. It was all done for show so that Julie Myers could get on TV. it cost taxpayers $10 million and many of those arrested were later released. If they allowed ICE agents to arrest illegal aliens on the street, it would cost far less. And there were actually over 1,000 agents on the case, not just 900. They spent a week in Iowa on your dime waiting for this raid if only 300 or so aliens.
And, in fact, most of the Guatemalan illegal aliens (he’s wrong–there were very few Mexicans) were mostly replaced by Muslim Somalian aliens with documents allowing them to come here and work at the planet. Whom would you rather have in America–Guatemalan Catholic illegal aliens, or Somalian extremist Muslims?
Until we set priorities about which illegal aliens we arrest and deport–ie., the type that were on the 9/11 planes–(and we never will b/c of the ACLU and Muslim groups) it’s kind of pointless to do these show-raids.
Where is anyone in Congress telling N.P. that she is dead wrong.
We do not have a voice.
Call, fax, email….they don’t answer their phones, they don’t read emails, and they throw away faxes.
So, Debbie are defending Geraldo’s rant?
http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/03/border-patrol-wants-to-deflower-mexican.html
The plan for Mexican Drug Violence on the Mexican Border. This Plan is to use a defoliant but there has been an injunction stopping the use on a 1.1 mile test strip between Nueva Laredo and Laredo.
Good Grief!
Up is Down, Good is Bad, vice is a virtue, enforcing the Law is un-American! When do we stop the madness?!
Of all the people suffering identity theft, why hasn’t Puglosi and Geraldomundo not had theirs stolen and abused. Seems fitting to me.
Do you also note they never stick up for any other ethnic group’s illegals? Guess the Asian, Irish, and other groups can just get on home. This is a south of the border illegal only zone.
I despise Geraldo Rivera and my contempt increases every time that s**tstain opens his mouth.
So, Debbie, are you defending Geraldo’s rant?
http://rightwingnews.com/mt331/2009/03/evan_sayets_speech_hating_what.php. Best read I’ve had in weeks. Give it to your favorite liberal to explain why they are always wrong.
The legal immigrants, hands down. At least they bothered to obey one law.
How many Americans have to die before these nut jobs realize that illegals don’t belong here? Yes, the immigration system is broken, but that doesn’t mean that we have to give amnesty to every individual who came illegally. If it didn’t translate into democratic votes, no democrat would care to support this group. Illegals have more representation in congress than the rest of us do.
SHOOT!
I think she was just re-elected last election.
Four more years of Socialist Drivel.
I am thinking that we can pray for her to be incapacitated.
Yesterday would not be soon enough, God.
We’d like something to salvage of the country you gave us. Please.
Amen.
Marco Polo –
The Guatamelans were illegals, just not terrorist wannabes.
I would say that Pelosi, Hernandez and Rivera are about as smart as the rocks at Alcatraz … however that would be insulting to the Alcatraz rocks …
And the abuse and misuse of legal immigration is a good topic for another thread
Those rocks have, at least, served a more useful purpose.
And the Somalis are now recruiting from their midst for terror attacks in Solamia. How long before they start attacking us HERE in the USA?
“Shocker”: Minnesota Muslim Was Somalian Homicide Bomber Terrorist, November 26, 2008
“Religion of Peace”: Seattle Somalian Muslims Forced 14-Year-Old Girl into Gang Rape, Prostitution, January 10, 2009
from cfr.com:
You’d think The One would be upset with these obvious attacks in the town of his birth….
Debbie brings up an interesting point. Who would you rather have in the country: Muslims with work visas or illegal Hispanics?
I’m curious, does anyone watch that racist un-American Whorealdo on fox over the weekends? He’s one of the main reasons I don’t watch much on FOX anymore.
I’ve seen figures from polls showing 70 to 80% of Americans want the boarders closed and no amnesty, along with removing the illegals…so Fox is just being controversial…F&B, while losing viewers?
My question is: What is she afraid of?
My guess is that she still employs illegal immigrants on her California estate. What would the fallout be if she, as one of the “employers of I.A.’s” got arrested, and charged with this violation of federal law…a law enacted by the body of government that she currently leads?
One can only hope.
Unfortunately, law enforcement/ICE would be too intimidated by the threat of harsh words from the Speaker, or her staff, to take aggressive/necessary action against her. Recent history can attest to that.
NEITHER !!
Interesting info about SOTH, Piglousi:
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s home district includes San Francisco. Star-Kist Tuna’s headquarters are in San Francisco, Pelosi’s home district. Star-Kist is owned by Del Monte Foods and is a major contributor to Pelosi. Star-Kist is the major employer in
American Samoa employing 75% of the Samoan work force. Paul Pelosi, Nancy ’s husband, owns $17 million dollars of Star-Kist stock. In January, 2007 when the minimum wage was increased from $5.15 to $7.25, Pelosi had American Samoa exempted from the increase so Del Monte would not have to pay the higher wage. This would make Del Monte products less expensive than their
competition’s. Last week when the huge bailout bill was passed,
Pelosi added an earmark to the final bill adding $33 million dollars for an ‘economic development credit in American Samoa.
Pelosi has called the Bush Administration “CORRUPT”? How do you spell
“HYPOCRISY?”
Neither obviously doesn’t work in this case.
san fran nan has a big conflict of interest, like who’s going to pick her grapes, clean her houses, do her gardening if she goes after illegals. this is the same “down for the downtrodden” b@#$h who blocked minimum wage for starkist workers in am samoa, because her hubby owns starkist stock. oh yeah, i’m a real politburo member, here’s for me, here’s to you!
The correct answer is:
C. None of the above.
A Kosher meat packing plant has no effect on my life whatsoever. Shut it down. Kick the illegal workers out of the country. Send the owner to jail.
Enforcing the law is quite a simple concept.
Geraldo, your drivel is a waste of spittle.
Although, a strong case could be made that it wasn’t the best use of resources (it targeting the Postville plant), I tend to disagree.
The raid still served a valid purpose. Even *if* all the concerns about the illegal aliens / criminal illegal aliens that worked there were set aside (eg. ignored) the raid still brought badly needed attention to an employer that had committed GROSS and FLAGRANT violations in terms of workplace safety, wage and hour/pay abuses, etc.
The fact that the raid did identify criminal illegal aliens and put them on the path to ‘removal is always a good thing too.
High profile raids like Postville DO get noticed by other employers and thus, give just one more reason, to inch towards following the law.
Had the company used E-Verify, few, if any of these illegal aliens would have been able to land jobs at Agriprocessors. Remember also, that even HR people there were charged with KNOWINGLY aiding/abetting these people (via fake / misused IDs and SSNs) to get jobs there. They needed to be out of businesses anyway. The ICE raid was just the ’straw that broke the camel’s back’.
When did we start caring what gerry rivers thinks?
I expectorate that kind of rhetoric from such an unsalivary character as Rivera. I’m just gland he’s not in charge of our borders.
I’d cringe if he were in charge of my local Taco Bell.
Any official of the United States that refuses to enforce the law should be arrested for treason.
As for Geraldo, he is slime. Pure and simple.
Speaking of Jerry Rivers, revisit the famous smackdown with O’Reilly… all his ignorance is on display in this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZB7dKJk5c
Hey, Jerry, here’s an Orwell quote just for you –
“For a creative writer possession of the “truth” is less important than emotional sincerity.”
As I recall, there was also a raid on the Tyson Chicken plants as well as Rubashkins. So this is not a “let’s-get-the-Jews” moment.
As a person who IS impacted by the problems in Postsville, I can tell you that for Jewish people who keep kosher, there are other companies that process kosher meat in the USA.
Empire Chicken and Golden West Glatt Cattle Company are two that come to mind. I am almost certain that Empire is in compliance, but Golden West is a new company out of Denver. There are alternatives. (There was a big brohaha in the Jewish community that brought real issues to light as well as the usual PETA nutjob folks.)
Luckily, I rarely eat meat except for major holy days and some Shabbats (sabbaths).
BTW Chap, both of the CA Senators have had challenges of the same sort as Pelosi. Boxer and Feinstein both sponsored legislation that later was found to be financially most beneficial to their family members.
I bought a new pitchfork to stir the compost pile last week. May need it for a trip to DC to stir up that manure, too.
I’m assuming that Fox News doesn’t notice that their ratings drop considerably when Guhraldo is on the air because they keep him on. Quite frankly I hate the guy and as soon as I even see a picture of him in teases I reach for the remote and dump Fox, which my wife has now come to assume that Guhraldo is “gracing” us with his presence and says so. She walks into the room and says “oh, Rivera, eh? Wait five minutes he’ll be off and we can go back.”
Actually, ICE agents on the Rubashkin raid told me that they wanted to raid some Muslim halal meat plants but were explicitly told they could not b/c the White House won’t approve raids on Muslims. And as for Tyson, that wasn’t nearly as big as the Agriprocessors raid, which was the biggest single location raid in history in terms of cost and manpower. And federal prosecutors in the case argued in their brief that they didn’t want Rubashkin to get bail because he’s a Jew and all Jews have a likelihood of fleeing to Israel. That is patently anti-Semitic, not to mention false. I don’t recall hearing anything of this nature in the Tyson case against the religion of the Tyson owners/execs.
9 years and counting now
And the IRS still refuses to tell me that I have a job in Florida even though I am living in the Philippines because they do not want to invade my privacy?
If it were not so serious, the irony would be laughable.
In a fantasy world, that’s the right answer. But in the real world, where there are only a few thousand ICE agents (many of whom don’t work in immigration enforcement) and 12-20 million illegal aliens, we have to set priorities about who we will deport.
And spending over $10 million to arrest 300 aliens, many of whom were released–and all of whom were replaced by extremist Muslims from Somalia, when we have violent illegal aliens and Islamic extremist illegal aliens we won’t touch, isn’t a good use of ICE resources. The whole reason DHS and ICE were established was in response to 9/11. How many people who hijacked the planes were named Gutierrez or Valdez?
The thing is that Gerry Rivers isn’t being intellectually honest. He doesn’t want ICE to deport anyone, including the gangs in Phoenix. The reason those gangs are there is that Gov. Napolitano and ICE didn’t do their jobs in rounding them up and deporting them b/c Bush and ICE leadership didn’t let ICE do it and b/c Napolitano is a fraud and an enemy of immigration enforcement, which will suit Obama just fine.
I read your article and it’s whole premise is flawed.
Question: How many people were arrested for being illegal aliens?
Answer: ZERO
All 349 illegals were arrested for illegal use of a Social Seciurity Number or identity theft; both of which are Federal felonies. The raid also uncovered a large number of other felony violations at that plant.
If your premise is that every arrest has to be cost-effective that’s frankly nonsense. The raid had its desired effect and then some.
ICE raids like this need to be increased ten fold. If we are arresting felons, then I don’t care what it costs or whose feathers get ruffled.
I don’t care if the plant is koser, halal or Martian. If the owner can’t provide a product without breaking the laws of this country, then he has no business being in business. It is the MSM and people like Geraldo that subtly imply that the raid on this plant was anti-Semetic. Truly Orwellian.
If Nancy Porklosis’ winery in Napa valley is on the up & up (she always seems to talk with a little anxiety in her voice when talking about workplace raids), and no illegals are employed there, fine. She can sell all the wine she wants. If her and her families’ business interests are making money by breaking laws she is sworn to uphold, then she needs to get out of the business.
Debbie …
If I had my way Homeland Security would have an unlimited budget, unlimited resources, and be run by Sheriff Joe …
I think it was in 1992 there was a major immigration “raid” in Reno. 1204 people were put out of work. Five were scheduled to be deported and four of them fought it in the courts with the aid of Hispanic Legal Services providing them teams of lawyers for free.
The overall effect increased the welfare rolls, increased the number of people on other social programs and cost us lots of money in our courts and not one person went to jail or was ultimately deported.
We are no longer a nation of laws and that is one of the primary reasons that this battle will be engaged street to street if it can not be accomplished at the ballot box with the “choices” we have in our elections.
It was a rhetorical answer to a nonsensical question.
I’ve said this before, but it bears repeating:
About 80% of what I say is sarcasm or rhetoric. To go further, I’d say another 19% of what I say is just stupid. That leaves 1% for meaningful, thoughtful comments (I’d say I’m about average for an Internet poster in that regard.)
For anyone that says 100% of what I say is garbage: Thank you. I strive for perfection, but seldom achieve it.
Sweet! ICE agents are unpatriotic so I guess DEA and customs agents are soon to follow.
WooHoo its just a few more months before we can buy Meth, Coke and nuclear secrets over the counter!
I know that hydroponics are considered “Green” – but can it be classified as a renewable energy source also?
Of course these raids are not only unpatriotic, they are just plain rude. We need to give the illegal immigrants time to prepare for company. Setting a nice table with tapas and tequila shots always makes for a good impression! Always call ahead with an accurate guest count so that there will be enough for everyone!
If ICE is unpatriotic, what would that make the IRS?
All those in favor of Geraldo being sent over the border alone and unarmed to negotiate with the cartels raise your hand……Passed!
See ya Geraldo !!!
Just because a Jew willfully and blatantly violates the law – and then gets caught, does not make it an anti-semitic act to arrest him.
AND Mr. Rubashkin was a flight risk – he had finances and could escape to Israel. The same as Muslim criminals who can also can claim persecution and one of the Arab nations will swoop in and “save” them.
I know of a case here in California where a Muslim ‘gentleman’ was convicted of arms dealing and his attorney asked the court to allow him time out of custody (I believe it was a month) to get his affairs in order since he was going away for a long, long time. The attorney graciously offered to have the defendant’s brother supervise him in Michigan. The judge had obviously not fallen off the turnip truck yesterday, denied the request because he knew he would probably never lay eyes on Mr. Arms Dealer ever again.
Mr. Muslim ArmsDealer is now a guest at one of our fine, over-crowed facilities in the desert someplace.
SouthPaw, you are just too, too much some days.
Maisy, I will even spring for a bottle of water for Jerry if you PROMISE he will never return.
Make that TWO bottles of water. Heck, let’s go all out – the two bottles of water will have those pop-top thingies on them!
Um, reality check needed: I repeat, the Feds said in their motion and brief that Rubashkin was a flight risk b/c all Jews enjoy the right of return to Israel. That is saying that Jews are flight risks. And yes, that is anti-Semitic. The biggest flight risks are anyone with the funds and ability to flee. That’s not limited to Jews b/c of the right of return.
I challenge you to find me a brief and motion filed by the feds making a broad statement about all Americans of any other religion. Good luck.
Pls. learn to read. I never said anything of the sort. Re-read my comments. I really don’t need to repeat them until your possess reading comprehension.
When the feds make negative (and false) blanket statements about all Jewish Americans–as they did in the Rubashkin brief and motion–that is anti-Semitism. Period. Wake the heck up.
Which idiot invited him to speak? Why? Listening to him (which was very difficult), the message I heard was that we need to beef up ICE both in terms of manpower and mission.
I mostly agree with you. Ideally, no illegals…but with limited resources and even less political will, law enforcement needs to prioritize–including deporting (and keeping out) violent felons from south of the border or wherever they originated.
I know, I know. With apologies. If I could convince the docs to increase the meds to a high enough level and let me out of this place, I could maybe run for Congress.
Please run. Even from the asylum, I’m sure you’ll be better in touch with America.
Mainly cause some of us will be sharing quarters with you soon….
All Mexicans are Americians!!!
Not really. Based on the nature and scope of charges against him, coupled with the physcal means available to him and the advantage of returning to Israel, Rubashkin could be the poster child for Flight Risk Magazine.
It is very hard for me to cut any slack to a man who headed a company that had almost 400 employees who, with the active assistance of his managers committed Social Security fraud and identity theft as well as over 9,300 alleged child labor violations.
He was in charge of a substantial criminal conspiracy and enterprise. The conditions of his bail are appropriate.
It appears as if Identity Theft and Stolen Social Security numbers by illegal aliens might become a non-crime. The prosecution here in Phoenix is on hold–the challenge is the perpetrators MUST KNOW THE STOLEN IDENTITIES AND SS NUMBERS belonged a a specific person and know that the action caused that person harm.
The appeal in on the way to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. We are not hopeful, but Geraldo, Hernandez and McCain must be in a hopeful mood.
Good Bye America-you will be missed.
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Keep the change-I’ll keep my guns
That always baffles me. At a minimum, knowingly using a false SS # is fraud. If I used a fake SS#, and was caught, I would be prosecuted for fraud. So, if that applies to a citizen but not illegals, isn’t that having different rules for different people? Isn’t that discrimination? And in violation of the constitution? The logic of liberals is amazing.