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1. #1
   On March 26th, 2009 at 3:34 pm, wrcnossen said:

   Any links to where we can read it or get a few more specifics?

2. #2
   On March 26th, 2009 at 3:36 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

   Oh, and I’m sure Obama won’t read it, much less include it in anything he signs.

3. #3
   On March 26th, 2009 at 3:36 pm, tpitman said:

   He’ll glance at it to feign “bipartisanship”, then ask the Republicans if he had reminded them lately that “I won”?

4. #4
   On March 26th, 2009 at 3:36 pm, RedDog said:

   Any likelihood he will do anything more than ignore it? Please. This neo-marxist is not looking for any alternatives to state control.

5. #5
   On March 26th, 2009 at 3:38 pm, DesertLover said:

   Michelle … I went to the link but all the information there never led me to the actual text of the budget proposal … but will find it eventually …

   Fact is the only way the public will ever know that any alternatives have been offered to the “ram it down your throat” policies of Pelosi and Reid is to make grandiose public announcements of everything the GOP wants to have considered …

6. #6
   On March 26th, 2009 at 3:39 pm, MtsEdge said:

   The GOP “Road to Recovery” needs to include a 12-step program to return to conservatism.

7. #7
   On March 26th, 2009 at 3:39 pm, Room 237 said:

   >Oh, and I’m sure Obama won’t read it, much less include it in anything he signs.

   So maybe someone can sneak into the White House and put the alternate budget on his desk to sign.

8. #8
   On March 26th, 2009 at 3:39 pm, chapoutier said:

   Any links to where we can read it or get a few more specifics?

   Sorry. They called this big conference to announce their plans for an alternative budget and forgot to actually produce a budget.

9. #9
   On March 26th, 2009 at 3:41 pm, MtsEdge said:

   Michelle … I went to the link but all the information there never led me to the actual text of the budget proposal … but will find it eventually …

   I noticed that, too. The “for more information” link was only a sign-up for email updates. Is this deliberate obfuscation or bumbling buffoonery on the part of the GOP? Or, are they trying to match the “town hall” approach of Obamanites? How about they just tell us what’s in the proposal???

10. #10
    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:41 pm, nwsseeker said:

    here’s the the link to the document.

    http://www.gop.gov/solutions/budget/road-to-recovery-final

11. #11
    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:42 pm, WarTip said:

    Call me skeptical if you will, but with 85 republicans actually voting against we the people, I smell more smoke and mirrors and sadly believe this is only a diversionary tactic to attempt to appease some of their base.

    Hopefully I am just being overly skeptical and perhaps even paranoid … but …

12. #12
    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:43 pm, DesertLover said:

    nwsseeker … link doesn’t work … must be incomplete …

13. #13
    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:44 pm, Living in the PSRK said:

    pseudo-OT:
    I noticed the market is up ~150 points right now.

    Just because I am in a grumpy mood, I am going to tell the morons (lgm & friends)of the world WHY it is up and will probably go up until ~ April 15th:

    People are funding their IRAs to save money on their taxes. There is NO bank giving more than 4% interest for CDs, therefore, our populace being what it is, are gambling on the market.

    Will drop like a rock later when people who (a) filed their taxes late and need funds sell off to obtain said funds;
    or (b) people start needing the cash to pay for essential living expenses when unemployment skyrockets under the new business/investment taxes.

    /snarck-attack mode off

14. #14
    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:45 pm, nwsseeker said:

    above link not working. here’s what I did to get to the document though.

    What I did was go to the “print” version at the bottom and it opens the document in adobe.

15. #15
    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:46 pm, 7thson said:

    The House GOP’s Road to Recovery plan curbs spending, creates jobs and lowers taxes, and controls the debt by:

    Letting families and small businesses keep more of what they earn;
    Ensuring federal budget doesn’t grow faster than family budgets;
    Committing to real entitlement reform and expanding Americans’ access to affordable health care;
    Ending the bailouts to protect taxpayers;
    Reducing gas prices through an “all of the above” energy plan; and
    Fighting inflation so prices of goods and services remain stable.

    While the goals above are good, where is the commitment to defend the Constitution, to balance the budget, to reduce the size of the federal government, to protect the borders and American sovereignty, and win the war on terror? You know, CONSERVATIVE principles…

16. #16
    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:47 pm, nwsseeker said:

    http://gopleader.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=116129

    Sorry forgot to include the page where the “print” section at. This is it.

17. #17
    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:47 pm, RedDog said:

    How long will it take for Gibbs to snear and mock the proposal from his podium? Two hours? Three? Will any of the press ask substantive questions? Unlikely.

    This Obama Democrat crack party has to be shut down now before they kill us all. The whole world sees the truth and are backing away from him as fast as they can. Even old-school communists are horrified at the irrational excesses of this guy. If he were a Russian or Chinese they would have put him in an insane asylum by now.

18. #18
    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:49 pm, MtsEdge said:

    Even old-school communists are horrified at the irrational excesses of this guy.

    That in itself speaks volumes.

19. #19
    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:50 pm, nwsseeker said:

    Don’t know what is happening , both links worked when I first clicked on them but from here I get an error message. My apologies.

20. #20
    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:50 pm, chapoutier said:

    People, you can stop looking for the actual budget. There is none. At least not yet. When he was asked about the actual numbers, he basically said “uhhhh….we’ll get back to you on that one.”

21. #21
    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:50 pm, tonyr951 said:

    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:39 pm, chapoutier said:

    Sorry. They called this big conference to announce their plans for an alternative budget and forgot to actually produce a budget.

    Wrong again:

    Statement

    Replublican Road to Recovery PDF

22. #22
    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:52 pm, RedDog said:

    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:39 pm, chapoutier said:
    Sorry. They called this big conference to announce their plans for an alternative budget and forgot to actually produce a budget.

    Based on the American and world response to his silly fantasy “budget”, Obama forgot to produce one as well.

23. #23
    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:54 pm, chapoutier said:

    Wrong again:

    Statement

    Replublican Road to Recovery PDF

    Maybe you don’t know what a “budget” is. It is a really big, detailed document outlining revenues and spending. For example, here is an actual budget. Note that it is 140 pages.

    A budget is not a 16 page document of aspirations.

    Hope this has been helpful.

24. #24
    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:58 pm, tonyr951 said:

    Talk about ‘aspirations’, if you are using that as an ‘actual’ budget, I have some swamp land to sell you.

    Hope this has been helpful.

25. #25
    On March 26th, 2009 at 3:59 pm, Khyris said:

    I am similarly disappointed.

    Lots of platitudes about good conservative ideals… no specifics about what to spend, what to maintain, what to cut.

26. #26
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:05 pm, chapoutier said:

    if you are using that as an ‘actual’ budget, I have some swamp land to sell you.

    It may not be a good budget, but in the sense that it uses crazy things like “numbers” and “charts” and uses off-the-wall terms like “Reciepts” and “Outlays”, something that seems to be curiously missing from the document you linked to, I would say it’s a budget.

27. #27
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:05 pm, 24Klady said:

    It doesn’t matter whether it’s a paragraph or 140 pages, it will never be read or considered by their cronnies across the aisle. Besides, ‘Bambi is too busy strutting before adoring audiances or thinking of new ways to assault the Constitution. He’s a busy man!

28. #28
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:07 pm, chapoutier said:

    It doesn’t matter whether it’s a paragraph or 140 pages, it will never be read or considered by their cronnies across the aisle.

    The GOP isn’t writing it for the President or the Dems. They are writing it for the 2010 voters to try to regain a shred of conservative street cred.

29. #29
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:09 pm, Surveyor said:

    subject different than this thread but…

    “Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) has introduced legislation that would “bar the dollar from being replace by any foreign currency.” A statement from Bachmann’s website:

    “Yesterday, during a Financial Services Committee hearing, I asked Secretary Geithner if he would denounce efforts to move towards a global currency and he answered unequivocally that he would,” said Bachmann. “And President Obama gave the nation the same assurances. But just a day later, Secretary Geithner has left the option on the table. I want to know which it is. The American people deserve to know.”

    On Monday, Geithner and Bernanke both rejected the idea of a global currency in Congressional testimony. But in remarks to the Council on Foreign Relations yesterday, Geithner indicated he was open to the idea.”

    The CFR is our enemy. I know there is no love lost between Michelle Malkin and that idiot Alex Jones, but, this is an area (CFR, Fed Reserve etc.) where he is essentially correct. These people are planning our downfall as we speak. But….nothing to see here..move along now.

30. #30
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:09 pm, swede said:

    Maybe you don’t know what a “budget” is. It is a really big, detailed document outlining revenues and spending. For example, here is an actual budget. Note that it is 140 pages.

    Common Chap, Dear Leader has been pushing this false dichotomy for months…the only alternative to my plan is to do nothing. Pleeease. There is no bi-partisan participation and you know it. But don’t give me that Republicans have offered no alternative line. They are simply not heard.

31. #31
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:09 pm, letget said:

    I think bho and the d’s will not be happy till every tiny bit of you and me are under their thumb. I would dearly want the r’s to do something, but I fear they don’t have a chance in ‘what’s that hot place’?

32. #32
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:10 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    So long as the GOP insists on keeping the losers who delivered disaster to the party, Obama will be successful in labeling the GOP as losers. Boehner (Mr. “this is a crap sandwich but you have to vote for it”), McConnell (“Bigots!”) , McCain (as in “gangs of..”), Graham (“Bigots!”), Steele, etc… just don’t move what is left of the GOP voter base. The GOP needs a new face. The messenger, in this case, does matter. We need leaders, not losers who try to appease us when they have a gun to their heads.

33. #33
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:12 pm, chapoutier said:

    Common Chap, Dear Leader has been pushing this false dichotomy for months…the only alternative to my plan is to do nothing. Pleeease. There is no bi-partisan participation and you know it. But don’t give me that Republicans have offered no alternative line. They are simply not heard.

    Huh? All I said is that they haven’t propsed a budget. This is fact. They admit this. What they have proposed is 16 pages of aspirational goals around which they say they are going to frame their budget.

34. #34
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:17 pm, swede said:

    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:12 pm, chapoutier said:

    So they should spend weeks preparing an alternative budget that will get perhaps 3 nanoseconds of consideration, and some chuckles from Nanny et al. You have to play the cards your dealt.

35. #35
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:18 pm, 2cents said:

    “He asked for it. He got it.”

    Now he can ignore it.

36. #36
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:19 pm, chapoutier said:

    So they should spend weeks preparing an alternative budget that will get perhaps 3 nanoseconds of consideration, and some chuckles from Nanny et al. You have to play the cards your dealt.

    That is what they said they plan on doing. But in any case, as I said, this is for the voters. They will put forth a budget that none of them would actually touch with a 10 foot pole if they were in power, so that they can go back to the voters in 2010 and said “see…we tried to cut taxes x amount and we tried to cut spending x amount.”

37. #37
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:21 pm, MtsEdge said:

    “see…we tried to cut taxes x amount and we tried to cut spending x amount.”

    Only in Washington do “efforts” count as much as “results”.

38. #39
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:26 pm, jjmurphy said:

    I went and glanced through the document. It had some good points but was pretty worthless overall. More of a democrat-lite sort of thing. Nothing new or bold, just “we’re not as socialist as the democrats”, but we still like big government.

    BFD.

39. #40
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:30 pm, swede said:

    chapoutier said:
    But in any case, as I said, this is for the voters. They will put forth a budget that none of them would actually touch with a 10 foot pole if they were in power, so that they can go back to the voters in 2010 and said “see…we tried to cut taxes x amount and we tried to cut spending x amount.”

    Yeah, I’ll concede this is a ploy for some much desired attentention. But it is also a shrewd play in that there is a huge public backlash re out of control spending. Could have an effect looking toward 2010, don’t you think?

40. #41
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:30 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    One thing I have noticed is that since 2006, under the Democrat controlled congress, the cost of living has gone up significantly. You should see the prices here.

41. #42
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:31 pm, chapoutier said:

    Yeah, I’ll concede this is a ploy for some much desired attentention. But it is also a shrewd play in that there is a huge public backlash re out of control spending. Could have an effect looking toward 2010, don’t you think?

    Maybe. But really 2010 is going to be all about 2 numbers and what they are that summer: the Dow and unemployment levels.

42. #43
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:32 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    chapoutier said:
    

    A budget is not a 16 page document of aspirations.

    That was awesome.

    Republicans still don’t get it – they love tax cuts, that’s their solution to everything, you would think they would be more responsible, but then you see the low quality members of their party and realize they don’t represent a true political party.

    They represent the worst elements of pop culture – blow hards, sound bites, incompetence, finger pointing, name calling, rigid ideology and zero credibility.

43. #44
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:34 pm, zyzzyg said:

    Beyond frustrating, and Rep Boenher should be ashamed of himself. If you say you are going to produce a budget, then produce a budget. The document produced amounts to an “outline” as every Republican spokesperson has referred to it. These spokespersons say that a more “detailed” plan is forthcoming.

    Republican grandstanding is becoming tiresome. Where are our principles? First we decry putting limits on the income of private companies who receive tax payer bailouts. Then we decry those bonuses, yet vote to a ‘call back’ of that money while taking those companies political campaign contributions. Yes, I am talking about Rep Cantor.

    Every Republican spokesperson is saying that the administration budget has a deficit of ten trillion dolars. Well OK. With the state we are in there is going to be a deficit. What is the projected deficit of the Republican budget? Have we become afraid of honesty?

    Crickets.

    The Republicans have brought a knife to a gun fight. This plan is laughable, and unfortunately, lacks the specifics that we criticize the democrats for. Where are the cuts to programs?

    I expect more, I want more, and we did not get it.

44. #45
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, airbrush101 said:

    Well… All I can say is that in the photo of the link…everyone there looks like little whipped puppies …

45. #46
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:39 pm, swede said:

    chapoutier said:

    Maybe. But really 2010 is going to be all about 2 numbers and what they are that summer: the Dow and unemployment levels.

    One more number my friend. If you think borrowing massive debt from China and printing boatloads of money is not going to drive up inflation, you’re dreaming.

46. #47
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:40 pm, sonofdy said:

    Niether one is the budget. It hasn’t been writen by congress yet. But sides are just presenting ideas. So if its 12 pages or 34,532 pages, it doesn’t matter. What matters is what comes out on the final document. Which BTW will be written but pelosi and reid probably without any GOP input. It will also be stuffed full of pork. Count on it.

47. #48
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:41 pm, sonofdy said:

    They represent the worst elements of pop culture – blow hards, sound bites, incompetence, finger pointing, name calling, rigid ideology and zero credibility.

    Yeah, thats the democrats.

48. #49
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:42 pm, chapoutier said:

    One more number my friend. If you think borrowing massive debt from China and printing boatloads of money is not going to drive up inflation, you’re dreaming.

    I don’t think inflation will be high enough in the short term to affect 2010, but maybe.

    And sonofdy, it is not THE budget, but it is A budget. Or proposal at least.

49. #50
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:44 pm, sonofdy said:

    And sonofdy, it is not THE budget, but it is A budget. Or proposal at least.

    Thats kinda my point. There are nothing but proposals right now.

50. #51
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:44 pm, mchristian said:

    chapoutier said:
    “see…we tried to cut taxes x amount and we tried to cut spending x amount.”

    In much the same way that Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid were able to say, “We tried to end the war in Iraq.”

51. #52
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:45 pm, chapoutier said:

    In much the same way that Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid were able to say, “We tried to end the war in Iraq.”

    Agreed.

52. #53
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:45 pm, sonofdy said:

    Yeah, thats the democrats congress.

    Self correction.

53. #54
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:49 pm, swede said:

    I don’t think inflation will be high enough in the short term to affect 2010, but maybe.

    Chap, honest to God I hope you’re right, but I really think this is going to be Carteresque, or worse. You can’t increase the money supply in a recessed economy and not have inflation. Basic economics.

54. #55
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:52 pm, thetoysurgeon said:

    Obama and his cronies will use this against the GOP. It gives him ammo to slam the GOP. Remember OBama’s plan is to destroy the ecomony. Its on page 666 of the communist manifesto. Once everything is in chaos, his civilian security force can take us over. If everyone would open their eyes this is the same play book that other commie leaders have used to take over a country.

55. #56
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:52 pm, chapoutier said:

    You can’t increase the money supply in a recessed economy and not have inflation. Basic economics.

    I think the economy will be depressed enough so that it will dampen inevitable inflation. The trick, and Obama’s true test will be pulling back the reins and implementing entitlement reform quickly enough to prevent really bad inflation, but slowly enough so that it doesn’t drop us into another recession.

56. #57
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:53 pm, RedDog said:

    Budgets are notoriously difficult for any average company to produce with any reasonable degree of accuracy for the coming year. My company’s 2009 budget is already blown since we will exceed the sales plan by 50% this year based on current orders, so you can imagine how much error there would be in a $3.7T federal budget. Five-year business projections are a notorious waste of time and are generally regarded by most analysts as useless, but are used when necessary by banks and other factors for financing purposes. A ten year government projection is actuarial witchcraft. Fuggetaboutit…

    The federal budget is infinitely more difficult to forecast and given to gross error and misleading assumptions. The fact that this whole process was completed in a few weeks on the back of a napkin (as it were) should be a warning signal to everyone that it is virtually useless as anything but a political bargaining tool, especially given the excesses of new spending and the size of the budget. Revenues are grossly over-stated based on awful assumptions and will produce much larger than forecast deficits. It appears clear to many that this Democrat government does not have the professional skill or expertise to craft a legitimate budget, much less one as irresponsible as this one. Even with experienced ex-Clinton functionaries in place, this is a real mess given the addition of huge “social justice” imperatives.

    Markets and economies are like living things. They want to, and will fight to survive and prosper with or without government “assistance”. Ours will survive but the statist government apparatchiks led by Mr. Obama will want to take credit for any perceived turnaround – whether is was generated by government infusion of money or natural market demand. And any long term malaise will be blamed on Bush or used as evidence that more “stimulus” is needed. Sadly it’s a win-win situation for the neo-marxists but a disaster for America (and the world) given the enormous growth of the federal debt. I believe FDR had the luxury of a surplus before he went on his spending spree and the establishment of long-term entitlement programs. The largest grow-government pieces of this budget have got to be removed now to restore public confidence in the system and to preclude new and larger entitlements. Hopefully rational adults in both parties will begin to assert some authority in the coming months and shut down further expansion of this bizarre 19th century neo-marxist experiment.

    Sorry, I’m done with my rant now.
    RedDog – out.

57. #58
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:53 pm, garydt said:

    Boy does IloveMyCountry is finger pointing to a group telling them they are ignorant, rigid name calling, (he fogot all the name calling the demos did during the bush years), zero credibility (like any demos never has lied?). Incompetence doesn’t belong to any race, club or group of people, it actually is represented in most groups. Rembember all the blow hards when the gop is in power? As far as a rigid ideology, such as small gov’ts, individual freedoms, strong military, when practiced are not at all rigid. There is more freedom in these circumstances then a marxist type government.

58. #61
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:56 pm, sonofdy said:

    I think the economy will be depressed enough so that it will dampen inevitable inflation. The trick, and Obama’s true test will be pulling back the reins and implementing entitlement reform quickly enough to prevent really bad inflation, but slowly enough so that it doesn’t drop us into another recession.

    I don’t think there is a person alive who could manipluate an economy the size of the US economy that well.

59. #62
    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:58 pm, nail49 said:

    They represent the worst elements of pop culture – blow hards, sound bites, incompetence, finger pointing, name calling, rigid ideology and zero credibility.

    IHateMyself: You are spot on in describing the DemocRats!

60. #63
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:01 pm, nail49 said:

    They called this big conference to announce their plans for an alternative budget and forgot to actually produce a budget

    Chap: As opposed to the Democrats whose budget reads: “Tax every nickel and then spend every dime! Should we run out of money, print more, LOTS more, and then spend that!”

61. #64
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:01 pm, RedDog said:

    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:52 pm, chapoutier said:
    The trick, and Obama’s true test will be pulling back the reins and implementing entitlement reform quickly enough to prevent really bad inflation, but slowly enough so that it doesn’t drop us into another recession.

    OK you’re into your single malt already. I’ll pull one of your responses… “Huh?”. Entitlement reform? You’re joking right? He doesn’t intend to reform anything unless you mean streamlining expenditures and the printing presses. They do make turbocharged models I believe. Reform. pppfffft.

62. #65
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:02 pm, swede said:

    chapoutier said:
    The trick, and Obama’s true test will be pulling back the reins and implementing entitlement reform quickly enough to prevent really bad inflation, but slowly enough so that it doesn’t drop us into another recession.

    Another recession? Assumes he is going to get us out of this one.

    Barry is way smarter than Carter (nice poem, no?) but smart enough to pull that off? So far I gotta say not so much. With Turbo Tim stumbling out of the blocks that’s going to be some trick.

63. #66
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:03 pm, chapoutier said:

    OK you’re into your single malt already.

    Were that only true…

    He doesn’t intend to reform anything unless you mean streamlining expenditures and the printing presses.

    He has said many times he will. Feel free to be skeptical. I will say that if he does not, I will be very very disappointed.

64. #67
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:05 pm, sonofdy said:

    He has said many times he will.

    And. you. believed. him???

    

65. #68
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:06 pm, chapoutier said:

    And. you. believed. him???

    You may saaaay I’m a dreamer.

    But I’m not the only one.

    I hope somedaaaay you’ll join us.

    And the wooooorld will be as one.

66. #69
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:11 pm, sonofdy said:

    And the wooooorld will be as one.

    Anybody who thinks that the world will ever be one has a fundimental misunderstanding of mankind.

67. #70
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:12 pm, swede said:

    And the wooooorld will be as one.

    That would be Overseas Contingency Operation, I guess.

68. #71
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:12 pm, nail49 said:

    I will be very very disappointed.

    Why aren’t you already disappointed?

    He has reversed many of his positions and broken many promises — and he is only 60+ days into his first, and hopefully last, term.

69. #72
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:13 pm, chapoutier said:

    Anybody who thinks that the world will ever be one has a fundimental misunderstanding of mankind.

    Only cause non-dreamers like you are bringin’ us all down, man.

70. #73
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:15 pm, single stack said:

    You may saaaay I’m a dreamer.

    But I’m not the only one.

    I hope somedaaaay you’ll join us.

    And the wooooorld will be as one.

    I’m not surprised you would quote a paean to communism. And I’ll NEVER join you.

71. #74
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:16 pm, chapoutier said:

    I’m not surprised you would quote a paean to communism. And I’ll NEVER join you.

    Don’t harsh my mellow.

    Peace.

    Make love, not war.

72. #75
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:17 pm, corkie said:

    On March 26th, 2009 at 4:52 pm, chapoutier said:

    I think the economy will be depressed enough so that it will dampen inevitable inflation. The trick, and Obama’s true test will be pulling back the reins and implementing entitlement reform quickly enough to prevent really bad inflation, but slowly enough so that it doesn’t drop us into another recession.

    chapoutier, I agree with this.

    However, I don’t think Obama wants to do pull back the reins.

    I agree with you and others about the “alternative.” The Republicans didn’t produce an actual budget because “unappealing” aspects of it would surely be widely attacked by the MSM. However, they need to learn to counter such criticism. They should have produced an actual budget.

73. #76
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:18 pm, nail49 said:

    Chap must have found some really good ’shrooms in his back yard…

74. #77
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:18 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I think the economy will be depressed enough so that it will dampen inevitable inflation.

    This guy thinks that it will take until 2011 to get us back to 2007. This year the story is the economy is says, next year will be anger…
    In terms of inflation he thinks Carter, not Germany…

    I recommend the video…

75. #78
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:19 pm, swede said:

    single stack said:

    I’m not surprised you would quote a paean to communism. And I’ll NEVER join you.

    chap will let you borrow his bong, and it will all be better. We are the world.

76. #79
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:20 pm, bear1909 said:

    Put the alternative on his teleprompter brain.

77. #80
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:21 pm, chapoutier said:

    chap will let you borrow his bong

    Here you go.

78. #82
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:24 pm, swede said:

    Bong of Hope, but no change. Interesting.

79. #83
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:26 pm, chapoutier said:

    Bong of Hope, but no change. Interesting.

    Duhhhhh….we use the Hypodermic Needle of Change.

80. #84
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:26 pm, RedDog said:

    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:13 pm, chapoutier said:

    Only cause non-dreamers like you are bringin’ us all down, man.

    You crack me up. I’m inspired to go buy a $10 fifth of Evan Williams Green Label and sip some on the front porch as the sun goes down. Wait, by the time I get home it will be dark. That won’t deter me though.

81. #85
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:30 pm, RedDog said:

    Hey guys, chap does not take himself as seriously as many of you. Be cool and roll with it..

    But I agree, Lennon was a tool.

82. #86
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:51 pm, lgm said:

    The Republican budget proposal is just one more nail in the Republican coffin. They’re not willing to cut spending (except in trivial ways like cutting the NAE) and they’re not willing to raise taxes. Reagan, Bush, and Bush again demonstrated that this is the road to large deficits and (at best) slow growth. The Clinton years (for whatever reason, even possibly the Republican Congress) saw modest tax hikes, controlled spending, and faster economic growth.

    People say the Bush tax cuts caused increases in revenue. Well, they certainly did not lead to balanced budgets.

83. #87
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:51 pm, Dave Turson said:

    If Lennon were alive and able to post on this thread, I believe he’d tell Chap, and The One, to buzz off.

84. #88
    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:55 pm, sonofdy said:

    Sure LGM, sure.

    

85. #89
    On March 26th, 2009 at 6:06 pm, Old Country Boy said:

    I’m not sure we should be overly critical of any attempt to a budget at this point. We certainly don’t have to get too partisan or mouthy about it. As I remember federal budgets, they have three inputs:

    1. The input from each federal department as to what they will need to operate in the coming year (there is no way the repubs will have that figure).

    2. The political input from the executive political administration as to what they will need to expand the federal programs to meet their agenda. (the repubs will not have access to this either, but will fight it as much as they can).

    3. The pork and special interests of the legislative branch to gather votes and feather their nests. (the repubs are better at fighting this than the dems, but we the people are the best fighters).

    To expect the repubs to have a real line-by-line written budget without #1 at this point is not ignorance, but blatant stupidity. Without #1, all the repubs can do is to advance principles with which to fight #2.

    To my amazement, this is the first time in 70 years that the executive department will be responsible for more budgetary spending than the legislative (bailout bills excepted). – inspite of all the trolls trying to blame Bush for all our troubles and their butt acne.

86. #90
    On March 26th, 2009 at 6:11 pm, rambler said:

    BHO only reads teleprompters.

87. #91
    On March 26th, 2009 at 6:11 pm, rooster said:

    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:16 pm, chapoutier said:
    Don’t harsh my mellow.

    Peace.

    Make love, not war.

    Chap/Chapoutier = Rash like symptons between the legs caused by a irritant or some form of liberal pestulence!

88. #92
    On March 26th, 2009 at 6:14 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:51 pm, lgm said:

    The Republican budget proposal is just one more nail in the Republican coffin. They’re not willing to cut spending (except in trivial ways like cutting the NAE)

    Give conservatives a super majority and watch the Dept. of Education disappear overnight, followed by the prescription drug benefit, Americore, all subsidies to private organizations that “get out the vote,” etc.

    That would be Day 1. Care to see Day 2?

89. #93
    On March 26th, 2009 at 6:25 pm, chapoutier said:

    Chap/Chapoutier = Rash like symptons between the legs caused by a irritant or some form of liberal pestulence!

    …sniff…

    …whimper…

    …well…no bong hits for YOU my friend!

    And you’re only going to get to hook up with this one at the love-in.

90. #94
    On March 26th, 2009 at 6:28 pm, rooster said:

    On March 26th, 2009 at 6:25 pm, chapoutier said:
    Chap/Chapoutier = Rash like symptons between the legs caused by a irritant or some form of liberal pestulence!
    …sniff…

    …whimper…

    …well…no bong hits for YOU my friend!

    And you’re only going to get to hook up with this one at the love-in.

    Please Chap, no family pictures!

91. #95
    On March 26th, 2009 at 6:32 pm, corkie said:

    On March 26th, 2009 at 5:51 pm, lgm said:

    People say the Bush tax cuts caused increases in revenue. Well, they certainly did not lead to balanced budgets.

    You’re right. Feel free to criticize Bush for caving into liberal threats. But don’t forget to criticize the liberals that made the threats.

    The Clinton years (for whatever reason, even possibly the Republican Congress) saw modest tax hikes, controlled spending, and faster economic growth.

    The balanced budget during Clinton was caused by the cuts forced by the Republican Congress and BUBBLE tax revenues caused by the tech bubble.

    The Republican budget proposal is just one more nail in the Republican coffin.

    Not at all.

92. #96
    On March 26th, 2009 at 6:48 pm, usa_usa said:

    Democrats = Republicans = Idiots

93. #97
    On March 26th, 2009 at 6:53 pm, rooster said:

    On March 26th, 2009 at 6:48 pm, usa_usa said:
    Democrats = Republicans = Idiots

    Agreed!
    However an insane amount of mental ilness inhabits the minds of left leaning Americans. We have a two party system which is almost identical to one another while focusing on different issues to satisfy their ignorant bases. (See lgm, chapoutier, etc.,)

94. #98
    On March 26th, 2009 at 6:54 pm, DigitalCameras said:

    Doesn’t matter, he’s been lying that the GOP alternative is “do nothing” since he took office… The media doesn’t break his balls over it, and most of the country is too stupid to notice.

95. #99
    On March 26th, 2009 at 6:57 pm, chapoutier said:

    We have a two party system which is almost identical to one another while focusing on different issues to satisfy their ignorant bases. (See lgm, chapoutier, etc.,)

    Oh oh! Which ignorant base am I again?

    The Drunk base? Or the Evil Lawyer base? Or the Secretly In Love With Scarlett Johansson base? Its so hard to choose just one! Or can there be crossover?

96. #100
    On March 26th, 2009 at 7:00 pm, RogerCfromSD said:

    Chap, your condescending arrogance has long ago ceased to be funny, insightful, or relevant.

    We don’t need your snark. If you have something that’s actually intelligent, great. But, every thread you get involved in invariably devolves into a circle jerk for your ego.

    Otherwise, please consider posting your idiocy elsewhere. Or, REALLY contribute (without the gratuitous insults and sarcasm).