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	<title>Comments on: Hatch dedicates $6 billion GIVE/SERVE boondoggle to Kennedy; plus: mandatory service study lives!</title>
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		<title>By: Wayfaring Stranger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayfaring Stranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On March 30th, 2009 at 10:19 am, misterbee241 said: 

[Romney] refused to stand up to the Mass supreme court over gay marriage.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Not sure what you&#039;re referring to; the Mass Supreme Court handed down that decision before Romney became governor. And while he was governor, he was the one who took the gutless wonders on Beacon Hill to court to force them to vote on the referendum petition that voters in Massachusetts had signed - and for which those voters ended up having their names, addresses and phone numbers published by the pro-gay-marriage proponents (but that wasn&#039;t an attempt at intimidation /sarc.). Within the parameters of the state&#039;s constitution, he did what he could to force the legislature to do their jobs.

As to whether he is a true conservative or not, if he had changed his views from being anti-abortion to pro, the left would have lauded him for his evolving point of view. Instead, they excoriate him, and those on the right view him with suspicion. 

I for one take him at his word, that in the fact finding sessions he had with the experts on embryonic stem-cell research, he came to the conclusion that not only was that type of research unethical, but that abortion itself was also unethical. 

How may of us have likewise changed our opinions because of new information on the subject? I know I did. Does that make me insincere in by pro-life beliefs? Am I not a true conservative? (point of reference: I wrote in Reagan on the 1980 presidential ballot, who, by the way, also changed his stand on abortion).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On March 30th, 2009 at 10:19 am, misterbee241 said: </p>
<p>[Romney] refused to stand up to the Mass supreme court over gay marriage.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not sure what you&#8217;re referring to; the Mass Supreme Court handed down that decision before Romney became governor. And while he was governor, he was the one who took the gutless wonders on Beacon Hill to court to force them to vote on the referendum petition that voters in Massachusetts had signed &#8211; and for which those voters ended up having their names, addresses and phone numbers published by the pro-gay-marriage proponents (but that wasn&#8217;t an attempt at intimidation /sarc.). Within the parameters of the state&#8217;s constitution, he did what he could to force the legislature to do their jobs.</p>
<p>As to whether he is a true conservative or not, if he had changed his views from being anti-abortion to pro, the left would have lauded him for his evolving point of view. Instead, they excoriate him, and those on the right view him with suspicion. </p>
<p>I for one take him at his word, that in the fact finding sessions he had with the experts on embryonic stem-cell research, he came to the conclusion that not only was that type of research unethical, but that abortion itself was also unethical. </p>
<p>How may of us have likewise changed our opinions because of new information on the subject? I know I did. Does that make me insincere in by pro-life beliefs? Am I not a true conservative? (point of reference: I wrote in Reagan on the 1980 presidential ballot, who, by the way, also changed his stand on abortion).</p>
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		<title>By: Wayfaring Stranger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayfaring Stranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On March 28th, 2009 at 9:40 am, happyscrapper said:

...if you can trace yourself to a king in England...&lt;/blockquote&gt;Which one have you traced back to? My family has been tracing genealogies since I was really little, so it&#039;s an ongoing interest of mine (kind of like being a fan of the Red Sox - I was born into it) :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On March 28th, 2009 at 9:40 am, happyscrapper said:</p>
<p>&#8230;if you can trace yourself to a king in England&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Which one have you traced back to? My family has been tracing genealogies since I was really little, so it&#8217;s an ongoing interest of mine (kind of like being a fan of the Red Sox &#8211; I was born into it) <img src='http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wayfaring Stranger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayfaring Stranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On March 27th, 2009 at 9:39 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On March 27th, 2009 at 8:48 pm, Joy said:
    Happy - You and I just may be distantly related by marriage… lol

That’s funny! I have actually found dozens of Alexander cousins on the Web. We are all descended from Jabez Alexander (born in 1755)...One of the Alexander lines goes all the way back to the Mayflower and Elder William Brewster!&lt;/blockquote&gt;Brewster is one of my Mayflower ancestors! We might be related.... :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On March 27th, 2009 at 9:39 pm, happyscrapper said:</p>
<p>    On March 27th, 2009 at 8:48 pm, Joy said:<br />
    Happy &#8211; You and I just may be distantly related by marriage… lol</p>
<p>That’s funny! I have actually found dozens of Alexander cousins on the Web. We are all descended from Jabez Alexander (born in 1755)&#8230;One of the Alexander lines goes all the way back to the Mayflower and Elder William Brewster!</p></blockquote>
<p>Brewster is one of my Mayflower ancestors! We might be related&#8230;. <img src='http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: tiredofit08</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredofit08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is writing these bills??? it certainly isn&#039;t these congress critters...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is writing these bills??? it certainly isn&#8217;t these congress critters&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ArizonaNeanderthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArizonaNeanderthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a time I did admire Senator Orrin Hatch-he seemed to be a  straight shooter and true patriot. If he was just one clever political hack or the power and pomp of the Beltway corrupted him I do not know. But we have seen it time and again.
&lt;blockquote&gt;a mandatory service requirement was dropped from the GIVE/SERVE package, but is part of a stand-alone bill to establish the “Congressional Commission on Civic Service.”&lt;/blockquote&gt; We have seen the likes of that before. The &quot;mandatory&quot; part will resurface one way or another despite what the CongressCritters say. The parasites of the Federal Bureaucracy re write the rules as they go along.

Actually we do have term limits-two and six years IF the voters would get off their dead butts and vote out the scoundrels.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Go home to Utah, Orrin, you old RINO, sit on the porch and watch the sun set.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; Yes indeed although I would think he prefers Massachusetts by now.He could Room with Romney at House RINO! (take McCain with you)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a time I did admire Senator Orrin Hatch-he seemed to be a  straight shooter and true patriot. If he was just one clever political hack or the power and pomp of the Beltway corrupted him I do not know. But we have seen it time and again.</p>
<blockquote><p>a mandatory service requirement was dropped from the GIVE/SERVE package, but is part of a stand-alone bill to establish the “Congressional Commission on Civic Service.”</p></blockquote>
<p> We have seen the likes of that before. The &#8220;mandatory&#8221; part will resurface one way or another despite what the CongressCritters say. The parasites of the Federal Bureaucracy re write the rules as they go along.</p>
<p>Actually we do have term limits-two and six years IF the voters would get off their dead butts and vote out the scoundrels.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Go home to Utah, Orrin, you old RINO, sit on the porch and watch the sun set.&#8221;</em> Yes indeed although I would think he prefers Massachusetts by now.He could Room with Romney at House RINO! (take McCain with you)</p>
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		<title>By: Designated Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>Designated Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Unintended Consequences of Senator Hatch&#8217;s Missionary&#160;Experience...&lt;/strong&gt;

How long will we have to suffer such fools in Congress (especially in the Republican Party)?
......</description>
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<p>How long will we have to suffer such fools in Congress (especially in the Republican Party)?<br />
&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Obama finds perfect location for his first GIVE/SERVE re-education/death camp — Cynthia Yockey</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/03/27/hatch-dedicates-6-billion-giveserve-boondoggle-to-kennedy-plus-mandatory-service-study-lives/comment-page-2/#comment-679311</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama finds perfect location for his first GIVE/SERVE re-education/death camp — Cynthia Yockey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;mandatory&#8221; voluntary service &#8220;GIVE/SERVE Act&#8221; is, Michelle Malkin explains here and I explain here. Stacy goes at it here.   Share and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;mandatory&#8221; voluntary service &#8220;GIVE/SERVE Act&#8221; is, Michelle Malkin explains here and I explain here. Stacy goes at it here.   Share and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty Confidential &#187; Blog Archive &#187; H.R. 1444: &#8220;mandatory service&#8221; lives!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty Confidential &#187; Blog Archive &#187; H.R. 1444: &#8220;mandatory service&#8221; lives!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] related news, Michelle Malkin has posted at her blog that republicans are dedicating the legislation called the GI.... Isn&#8217;t bi-partisanship pretty? Here is Kennedy, the man who truly embodies the Political [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] related news, Michelle Malkin has posted at her blog that republicans are dedicating the legislation called the GI&#8230;. Isn&#8217;t bi-partisanship pretty? Here is Kennedy, the man who truly embodies the Political [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GIVE/SERVE Act passes Senate&#8230;required-service creepiness now part of H.R. 1444 - techsan&#8217;s blog - RedState</title>
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		<dc:creator>GIVE/SERVE Act passes Senate&#8230;required-service creepiness now part of H.R. 1444 - techsan&#8217;s blog - RedState</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 04:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is&#8221; before heading to Obama.  I found couple summaries from Michelle Malkin here and here.  She describes it as &#8220;charity at the point of a gun.&#8221;  Well said. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is&#8221; before heading to Obama.  I found couple summaries from Michelle Malkin here and here.  She describes it as &#8220;charity at the point of a gun.&#8221;  Well said. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: From the Mind of Splittfinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>From the Mind of Splittfinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Hey Hatch, Don&#039;t you have something better to be working on?...&lt;/strong&gt;

give me a break... Hatch has come out of the closet with this love for Kennedy, one of the worst people...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Hey Hatch, Don&#8217;t you have something better to be working on?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>give me a break&#8230; Hatch has come out of the closet with this love for Kennedy, one of the worst people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: misterbee241</title>
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		<dc:creator>misterbee241</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;At least Mitt Romney hasn’t gone to the dark side and you can still be proud of him! &lt;/blockquote&gt;
No, Romney is trying to convince people he came FROM the dark side.  He flipped on abortion and gun control when it was politically expedient for him. He refused to stand up to the Mass supreme court over gay marriage. And I am not convinced a true conservative Republican could ever be elected governor of the People&#039;s Republic of Massachusetts.  After all, they gave Teddy Boy and Jean Francois Kerry lifetime seats in the Senate.
I know Reagan was elected governor of liberal California, but that was over 40 years ago.  A true conservative would never, ever be elected governor of California today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>At least Mitt Romney hasn’t gone to the dark side and you can still be proud of him! </p></blockquote>
<p>No, Romney is trying to convince people he came FROM the dark side.  He flipped on abortion and gun control when it was politically expedient for him. He refused to stand up to the Mass supreme court over gay marriage. And I am not convinced a true conservative Republican could ever be elected governor of the People&#8217;s Republic of Massachusetts.  After all, they gave Teddy Boy and Jean Francois Kerry lifetime seats in the Senate.<br />
I know Reagan was elected governor of liberal California, but that was over 40 years ago.  A true conservative would never, ever be elected governor of California today.</p>
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		<title>By: misterbee241</title>
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		<dc:creator>misterbee241</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something else I never understood.  Last night I watched a profile of Jimmy Hoffa, and how Booby, excuse me, Bobby Kennedy wanted his scalp.  I never understood why Booby was so hot after corrupt unions, organized crime and the Mafia when it was all of the above that helped his brother into the White House.  Kennedys have no gratitude.
I&#039;m no fan of Hoffa - he was a thug and a crook.  But at least he stood up to the Kennedys and that gives him points in my book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something else I never understood.  Last night I watched a profile of Jimmy Hoffa, and how Booby, excuse me, Bobby Kennedy wanted his scalp.  I never understood why Booby was so hot after corrupt unions, organized crime and the Mafia when it was all of the above that helped his brother into the White House.  Kennedys have no gratitude.<br />
I&#8217;m no fan of Hoffa &#8211; he was a thug and a crook.  But at least he stood up to the Kennedys and that gives him points in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: misterbee241</title>
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		<dc:creator>misterbee241</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“It is a great honor to be able to add the name of a very good friend and senator, one of the most distinguished of all-time, to this bill,” Hatch told the Senate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well, I certainly cant think of any other senator who left a girl friend to drown after he drove drunk off of a bridge and then was never held accountable because he&#039;s a Kennedy, fine upstanding man that he is.  Go home to Utah, Orrin, you old RINO, sit on the porch and watch the sun set.
TERM LIMITS NOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“It is a great honor to be able to add the name of a very good friend and senator, one of the most distinguished of all-time, to this bill,” Hatch told the Senate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, I certainly cant think of any other senator who left a girl friend to drown after he drove drunk off of a bridge and then was never held accountable because he&#8217;s a Kennedy, fine upstanding man that he is.  Go home to Utah, Orrin, you old RINO, sit on the porch and watch the sun set.<br />
TERM LIMITS NOW!</p>
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		<title>By: NHMagenta</title>
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		<dc:creator>NHMagenta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sen. Hatch is yet another shining example of why some of the energy commenters expend here at michellemalkin.com should be channeled in the direction of their state Reps, Senators and Assemblypeople to get them to petition the US Congress to call an Article Five Convention for the purpose of proposing Constitutional amendments including term limits for Congress and the Federal judicary - the kind of amendments which the House and Senate Judiciary Committees</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sen. Hatch is yet another shining example of why some of the energy commenters expend here at michellemalkin.com should be channeled in the direction of their state Reps, Senators and Assemblypeople to get them to petition the US Congress to call an Article Five Convention for the purpose of proposing Constitutional amendments including term limits for Congress and the Federal judicary &#8211; the kind of amendments which the House and Senate Judiciary Committees</p>
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		<title>By: edward cropper</title>
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		<dc:creator>edward cropper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anything Whoreon Hatch does surprise any rational person. This guy is enough to gag a maggot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anything Whoreon Hatch does surprise any rational person. This guy is enough to gag a maggot.</p>
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