The coming G20 riots & the spread of mob rule
My syndicated column today continues the theme I blogged about two days ago in the “Rule of the Mob” post. Keep an eye on next week’s G20 summit in London. Thousands of anti-capitalism zealots will be amassing there to intimidate and harass bankers. The vandalizing of the Scottish ex-banking executive’s home in Edinburgh is just a prelude. The protests are slated to start tomorrow and last all week; President Obama leaves for the summit on Tuesday. The images above are graphics and posters being disseminated online by protest organizers.
The anarchists are reportedly using Google Streetview and Twitter to organize riots, hang businessmen in effigy at the behest of a university professor known as “Mr. Mayhem,” call for guillotining bank execs, and — get this — target London firms that fail to turn off their lights to commemorate that moronic “Earth Hour” event I wrote about earlier this week. If shops don’t worship at the altar of environmentalism, they will be broken into:
Sir Paul Stephenson said ‘old faces’ from British protest groups – thought to be behind earlier anti-globalisation riots – were also expected in London. Activists have dubbed April 1 Financial Fools Day and are planning to march on the Bank of England, the European Climate Exchange in Bishopsgate and the U.S. embassy. At least 2,000 demonstrators are expected. The first demonstration in London will come tomorrow with ‘Earth Hour’ – targeting City firms that fail to turn off their lights by 8.30pm. Organisers say every office block in London with lights on will be fair game and have warned that they are prepared to break in and put the lights out themselves. The protest group Climate Camp has already released a map of potential targets in the City for its demonstration on April 1, including the Royal Bank of Scotland, carbon offset and trading companies and ‘green-washing’ PR firms.
Think this madness couldn’t happen here? Think again.
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The new vigilantes and their unaccountable enablers
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2009
If you think there are no consequences to hysterical, anti-corporate grandstanding in Washington, pay attention to what’s happening across the pond: “This is just the beginning.”
So warned a public letter signed this week by a vigilante group called “Bank Bosses are Criminals.” The thugs claimed responsibility for vandalizing a former financial executive’s home and car in Edinburgh, Scotland. The bank official, Sir Fred Goodwin, was excoriated by U.K. politicians for refusing to give up company pension benefits dubbed “obscene,” “grotesque,” “unjustifiable and unacceptable.” The vigilantes were stoked by a former newspaper editor, one Max Hastings, who wrote a diatribe exhorting citizens to violence:
“The time has come to address the entire robber banker culture. Investment banks have been run not for the benefit of society, customers, or even shareholders, but exclusively for the advantage of the bankers themselves…This is why we must stand outside their homes throwing rocks through the windows until they do.”
This is no marginal movement. Some 3,000 protesters from around the world are expected to wreak havoc on the G20 summit next week in London. What happened at Sir Fred’s house is a mere dress rehearsal. Bankers are being told to dress down to disguise themselves and avoid becoming riot targets.
Demonstrators are threatening to hang effigies. Protest organizer and university professor Chris Knight vowed worse: “We are going to be hanging a lot of people like Fred the Shred from lampposts on April Fool’s Day and I can only say let’s hope they are just effigies. To be honest, if he winds us up any more I’m afraid there will be real bankers hanging from lampposts and let’s hope that that doesn’t actually have to happen.”
How soon before we see this same kind of anarchic domestic terrorism on this side of the Atlantic? It’s already here.
Animal rights’ terrorists have firebombed researchers’ homes and Molotov cocktail-bombed their cars and been convicted of inciting threats, harassment, and vandalism against employees of a private company engaged in animal research.
Environmental terrorists have set developments on fire.
Anti-globalization anarchists in Seattle caused $2.5 million in damage to stores and downtown businesses in 1999.
Self-proclaimed “bank terrorist” Bruce Marks of the government-supported Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America, whom I reported on last March, has been threatening bank employees in their homes and harassing their children for years.
And last weekend, of course, the radical ACORN mob and its corporate shakedown allies chartered a bus — with twice as many outrage-stoking MSM photographers in tow — to menace AIG executives in their homes.
Democratic Rep. Barney Frank shrugged off testimony from AIG president Edward Liddy concerning death threats leveled against the company’s employees. GOP Sen. Charles Grassley recklessly called on executives who accepted retention bonuses to commit hari kiri. Left-wing billionaire George Soros’s ground troops in the ANSWER coalition waved signs decrying, “CAPITALISM IS ORGANIZED CRIME! STOP AIG!” And 85 House Republicans, led by Minority Whip Eric Cantor, abetted the demagoguery by voting for the 90 percent retroactive bonus tax.
Pundits on both sides of the aisle demonized the business people whose sin was continuing to work for a company that accepted taxpayer funding from Chicken Littles in Washington who forked it over in a blind frenzy. Washington scribe Mort Kondrake joked about boiling the execs in oil. But the families who received the following threats through AIG’s website can’t afford to be so glib. Among the vile messages disclosed this week in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by NBC Connecticut and Hearst Newspapers:
– All you motherf***ers should be shot. Thanks for f***ing up our economy then taking our money.
— I don’t hope that bad things happen to the recipients of those bonuses. I really hope that bad things happen to the children and grandchildren of them! Whatever hurts them the most!!
— If the bonuses don’t stop, it will be very likely that every CEO @ AIG has a bulls-eye on their backs.
— We will hunt you down. Every last penny. We will hunt your children and we will hunt your conscience. We will do whatever we can to get those people getting the bonuses. Give back the money or kill yourselves.
— All the executives and their families should be executed with piano wire around their necks — my greatest hope.
— Watch your backs because someone will come to get you, you can be sure.
Federal authorities are investigating and will take action against warped vigilantes. But when will the enablers on the Hill, in newsrooms, and on TV sets be held to account?
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I’ve always gotten the feeling that most of these so called anarchists could really give shiat about the cause. They’re mostly in it to be cool and break stuff. They really feel intimidating and tough when they put a bandanna on their faces. Anarchy? what a joke! they want to be part of a group mob that’s “sticking it to the Man.”
Why do people seem so surprised by the threats that have been flying about?
Are so many people still in the dark about just how perverse and violent the left is?
I have to agree with Maisy. I’m know there are upstanding, honest CEOs and rich banker types out there… but there are also a bunch of greedy pigs who have screwed this country. Like that a$$hat from AIGFP who is hiding out in London (I can’t remember his name). The gov’t is totally complicit. It is disgusting. I don’t know what would work at this point, besides taking to the streets.
The one problem I have with the idea of unfettered Capitalism is environmental pollution. If gov’t doesn’t regulate that somehow, I don’t see how the “free market” can take care of it. Maybe I am missing something. Anyone care to enlighten me?
Willful dumbness. TV regularly runs stories about the KKK and white supremacist (often Morris Dees productions-Southern Poverty Law Center- and maybe 1% as much about the Leftist, Black, Latin and Asian gangs. Leftist, greenies and allies do kill-they just get a pass from the cowards and fools.
Angry at Bank CEOs? The anger should be directed toward people like Rahm Emmanuel who collected $320,000 for 6 meetings and involved in shady dealings at Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac. Then there’s Dodd’s wife who sat on the board of one of AIGs companies. These are the biggest crooks displaying a lot of hypocrisy. And I’m pretty sure they aren’t alone in how they got their “new found” wealth over the past decade.
We expect CEOs to make money – not our elected representatives.
Joseph Cassano, that was the guy’s name. Taibbi talks about him in the RS article. Can any of you really read that article and not feel that he among others should be strung up?
Note that the anarachist professor lives on Millionaires Row!!
Limo Liberal.
Two points.
Yes, there are criminals in executive suites. Yes, some get away scott free. Do you want to declare martial law in your town and have a dawn to dusk curfew with shoot on sight orders because one home a week is burgularized? The reaction to the banking industry is TOTALLY disproportionate with the problem.
Environmental pollution. Again, there are tradeoffs. Do you want inexpensive energy that puts CO2 in the air or do you want Cap and Trade and “green energy” that is so expensive people can’t afford it.
When they can’t afford it they turn thermostats way down or their diets go to hell to save money for heating and they try and burn wood. How many people die due to CO2 or illness caused by cold houses, improper nutrition or wood stove fires? TAKE YOUR PICK.
Personally, you can theorize about CO2. However, the latter WILL HAPPEN, 100% channce. Acid rain and soot is pollution; CO2 is not.
It is not that most of the readers here are in the dark about the violent and irrational tendencies of these radicals. The surprise is that anyone would dare to make this much of a power grab so quickly … and that they would gain enough traction to want to attempt to take it to the next level.
And to think, now I can recall my fifth anniversary as the celebration of the British Krystalnacht!?
There are some things that need to be regulated. GE dumping PCBs into rivers and not cleaning them up. Exxon refusing to pay off on the Exxon Valdez spill (To this day I have only bought less than one tank of gas from Exxon and ExxonMobil in the last 20 years). The government turning nuclear sites and contaminated military sites into “Wildlife refuges”, etc.
However, its hard to go after mining companies that dont exist anymore that are still contaminating us from the 1800’s.
Companies merge, evolve and disappear all the time, so somehow they need to be held accountable, if not in some kind of non-profit escrow account that the government cant touch.
The anger is misdirected….intentionally I think.
The mobs should be visiting the congressional members and senators homes. They are the ones who continue to SCREW over the people.
The same people who have asked, begged, demanded and pleaded for our borders to be secured. STILL they play a cat and mouse game. Napolitano , a Governor whose state put out the welcome mat for the invasion. One has to wonder….is the resulting chaos and anarchy to come part of their grand plan? After all it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the implosion of Mexico will lead to a full scale onslaught of invaders and criminals.
Did I say anything about CO2? There are other forms of (verified) pollution such as RabbidSquirrel pointed out. Which I would rather have none of, thanks very much.
On March 27th, 2009 at 9:09 am, Mercy4Me said:
Those people are protesting the wrong houses. They need to be at George Soros and the other 5 riches Hedge Fund crooks. I mean what type of person gloats about having a “good Crisis”. Soros and his “kind” are to blame for this whole meltdown. They should be protested and……
The Marxist-Leninists themselves had to come to “evil” capitalist bankers to keep their war/domestic security machine going in Russia against its people, so frankly this is a “divide and conquer” scheme….
you know thats impossible. you cause pollution too. the only way you could stop polluting is to die…which is what much of the radical environmentalists want.
we have that already…it’ll just get worse…I have no doubts the gangs like Los Zetas have a growing amount of influence in this country…
they have the money, and they know how to intimidate people into working with them….silver or lead…work with them, or die.
and first the whole notion of ‘unfettered capitalism’ is just ridiculous. All companies are ‘fettered’ by their customers. the government has created a great deal of regulation, but at what cost?
no one ever talks about that…for example, we banned DDT. and we all feel good, we saved the poor birds, and ourselves from being poisoned.
the only trouble is MILLIONS have died from that decision. DDT is the best chemical to get rid of malaria-laden mosquitos. while the US doesn’t have that problem anymore, Africa and other developing countries do…and they have suffered terribly.
all so we ’save the environment’ what a joke.
Things are going to get ugly. Ok, uglier.
People are going to have to decide where they are going to take their stand – on the side of freedom and liberty, or on the side of “oh well, I can’t do anything, so I might as well just lie back and enjoy it.”
Freedom and liberty won’t be easy. It won’t be a popular choice.
“Lie back and enjoy it” or at least tolerate it will be easier, but it’s a sure path to both physical and mental slavery.
Too bad we’ve raised and educated generations now that view the easy choice to be the right choice.
America, we hardly knew ye.
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The wisdom of our Constitution and it’s founders is more obvious every day. The second amendment right of all citizens to defend themselves with firearms was so important that the Constitution would not have been approved without it.
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We have seen the breakdown of law and order during the Watts riots, the Rodney King riots, and other government failures to defend and protect us. The armed citizen is the last line of defense.
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Rioters and armed attackers need to be arrested, prosecuted, and imprisoned for their crimes. Or shot by a citizen if they threaten us.
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France faced a 10000 person anti-nuclear power plant mob when the put their first system on line in the 1970’s. A chain link fence around the plant and 3000 police / French military armed with bats, tear gas, etc. waited for the protesters inside the fence. When the protesters tore down the fence and tried to destroy the facility the defenders gassed, beat, and arrested all of them they could. And put the beat up detainees in jail for a while. NO TOUCHY-FEELY STUFF!
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That took care of the protester problem in France. Now they get 90 percent of their low cost power from non-polluting nuclear plants–no costly inefficient unreliable windmills or solar cells needed.
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France’s politicians and government did what was necessary to secure the economic future of their country. The U.S.S.A. has failed miserably–and President O’Bummer (PBUH) is selling out our (his?) country to the environmental “greenies”–at our expense.
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President Theodore Roosevelt always liked a good crisis–he had the marines SOCK IT TO THEM until they couldn’t take it any more. President Ronald Reagan also used this approach–Iran and Libya understood HARD POWER right away and changed their behavior.
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As far as some of the above posters dusting off their baseball bats–BUY A GOOD FIREARM and learn how to use it–soon. Granny–get your gun–while you still can.
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Check out the Black demonstrations in Oakland, California when a Black criminal murdered 4 White policeman. The mob saw this as a police crime against an innocent Black man. The mob could have decided to do a Rodney King style riot at your house!
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Make it U.S. Army (my ex organization) or Marine Corps style shooting at your house–the survivors will leave quickly. Watch all the Charles Bronson DEATH WISH MOVIES for pointers on how to handle this type of problem!
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John Bibb
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This recent bit on banker/wall street/politician greed/fraud isn’t new. They have been taking advantage of us since the 60’s. How many got rich off of us? How many Madhoff’s are still out there ready to scam you again. How many times do you have to get burned before you quit playing with matches.
I used to be pretty good at archery. An arrow dipped in something toxic sounds like a good weapon to me. There are definitely ways to defend what is yours. I am not anti-gun. I just don’t want to deal with them for the first time at my age!
I agree. I am confident that no one wants dirty air, dirty water, contaminated soil etc. I commented in the manner I did, because we have people running around declaring CO2 a pollutant. Just wanted to see what your definition of a pollutant might be.
Question for you. Are there things you feel are pollutants that are not covered by current governmental regulations? Not trying to criticize, but just curious.
Given what I believe is your definition of “environmental pollution” I have no problem with dropping the hammer on execs that knowingly allow it to happen and fineing the them BIG TIME.
it’s a good thing this riot is happening in london, they will just confuse it with a soccer match win, whereas if it were in paris, half the ciyies residents would be out on the street looking for the leader so they could surrender.
sorry, ciyies = city’s
Starbucks makes you pay for your coffee, BOA gives money away.
Somebody (and it might as well be me) should draw the parallel between our capitalist economic system and our legal system.
I think most libs would agree that they would rather see 10 guilty bastards turned loose than see one innocent person go to jail. Well, I would rather see 100 corporate CEOs make huge profits for their shareholders (and consequently for themselves) than see one have his bonus punitively taxed at 90%.
Am I missing something?
Stock up, soldier. We may need you.
ECS
Roger that. But I think we also need to continue speaking out and encouraging responsible people on both sides to keep the loonies in check. It will be a sad day when Americans start shooting each other over things caused by politicians.
That sentiment may be the only thing keeping the bloodletting in check. It is going to reach a boiling point, though, just don’t know when.
Actually, I think we just heard from Hillary that we could learn a lot from Mexico regarding more environmentally friendly commerce … right after she made jokes about not being able to drink the water … so maybe some of us actually do want that?
Just asking
Closer?
Still sad … and going to be a mess for our kids to clean up in more ways than one.
Obama: Divider of all things. What a freakin’ disaster.
I’m no lawyer, but this seems a clear-cut case of incitement to violence, and then it happened. So he should be prosecuted.
The only thing right now between what is left of the Constitution and the loss of this country is our right to own guns. That will be the last stand and it is not very far away. And it will happen through the “back door”. Stay armed and forewarned.
People are allowed to gather in their anarchist, spittle-flecked groups and protest – no matter what manner of stupid, gullible, easily-led tools they may be. It’s the flip-side to having free speech in this country, taking-the-bad-with-the-good and all that.
It becomes a problem when elected representatives deliberately whip those same yammering idiots into a froth, so that they can manufacture an extra aspect of crisis-not-to-be-wasted, and then allow themselves to be swept along by the shrieking mob that they’ve helped to create.
It’s not supposed to work that way – at the risk of repeating myself…
We Are Still A Republic
– MuscleDaddy
Michelle’s post is a perfect summary of why law-abiding people are buying firearms and ammunition by the truckload. The evil nitwits in DC – Frank, Dodd, Obama, etc – are fomenting violent attacks on private citizens. Time to arm up.
Why can’t we ever have a
BashLiberal A Liberal/Anarchist Day?It seems only fair.
Yes, these nutcases are free to spew their envy-filled tirades to the world. However, the second they destroy property it is no longer free speech. A single pane of glass, a windshield, a fence, and they should be arrested. Any bodily injury they do to others also, immediate arrest and prosecution. We get the actions we are willing to tolerate. To have our elected politicians incite them into violence only makes it worse.
before we all start shooting each other, let’s have another election in 2010 to see if reality sets in to the great soccer mom club. i know the lesbian left won’t wake up, they have an agenda, but normal working women voted for mr obama’s hope and change. i also will be interested in seeing how the newly laid off union workers will vote.
Cheapseat – The 2010 election will be very interesting precisely for the reasons you mentioned. Obama was a vote “for something different” for many otherwise intelligent people. Even though Obama is not on the ticket, his policies will be. If the democrats take a hit, that means hope, the real kind. If the dems grow their majority, well, then the majority has spoken with their eyes wide open. Then I will have little hope left.
There is a growing mob that wants to “get the bankers” and I don’t blame them. If the Feds started prosecuting these thieves there would be no mob
AIG’s credit default swap division in London committed massive insurance fraud. Start prosecuting the principals. Sadly enough the Democrats will do it if anyone does
Theft and fraud is a conservative issue for me at least
Please make flyers of Ted Kennedy, George Soros, Chris Dodd, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid homes and give them to the G-20 gang…..have fun….
No surprise to me, they are confident and believe they are ready to overthrow us. Watch it happen.
There must be a whack job font factory they puts out those insipit fake paintbrush fonts for anarchists and Marxist/commies.
In the 1970’s, pollution became so bad that it was obvious (strip mining, raptors wiped out by DDT, the Cleveland’s river catching fire etc..). The US took notice and cleaned it up. Today, we are one of the cleanest nations on Earth. Don’t believe me, go to anywhere in the 3rd world and see the tires burning, sewage pouring directly in to the rivers (that people bathe in and drink from – All American Canal anyone?), chemical spills, dumping etc.. (it just goes on and on)
Remember, the vast majority of the Earth that isn’t under water is considered the 3rd world.
About 10 years ago, some very clever little Marxist realized that the US had cleaned up the visible pollution that obviously existed. So, they started attacking the US about the pollution you can’t see and, by extension, can’t prove doesn’t exist. Remember the ’80’s when it was CFC’s and the hole in the ozone layer? The great CO2 emission specter was thus created. What a windfall to the anti USA types – they can even blame cows for the problem!
The US is the cleanest country that is actually industrialized on Earth. Argue with me and show the studies if you want but the proof is in the pudding. Let a company do something stupid environmentally and not only will the government attack them, the people do too (economically). It is always in a company’s best interest to not pollute in the US. However, China, Russia and India can just stink up the place. They treat their own people like test animals anyway so who cares. Right?
The EU will never live up to the standards they have set for themselves. They will lie about it and be smarmy when they point a finger at big, bad America for outproducing them economically. The truth is that this is a trade war instigated inside our own left wing and nurtured by Democrats who see it as a fuzzy bunny issue.
The rest of the world doesn’t like us or want us around. Let’s take care of ourselves first and challenge them to compete with us on an even field. That’s what America is supposed to be about.
This is all setting the stage for WWIII
Give it another ten years … or sooner
The hyper-tense and potentially violent clashes in London will be an utter contrast in styles with the peacefully patriotic Tea Parties culminating nationwide on April 15th.
It’s another reason we need to hope things stay sane in London. If things go horribly wrong across the pond, it’s not much of a stretch to think that here at home the Tea Parties might be viewed unfavorably by some in the media and some in power, leading to some sort of action, verbal, symbolic, or otherwise, might be taken against them.
We gripe about it, we blog about it, we call our congressmen – to no avail. What is the next step? Voting them out will be too late – 2010- is too late. Bambi is ruining this country at a record pace and will continue to do so. It will happen within a couple of months and there will be no turning back. We are sunk. America is over. I do not know what to do.
Why are the Europeans rioting? I thought they had a “safety net”?!! I guess that safety net talk is B.S.
I think they protest and riot because they have nothing better to do. As a society they are “bored”. They have had it so good under our umbrella of protection for decades that they simply do not know what to do with themselves. They have no purpose.
They no longer believe in their culture (i.e. multi-culturalism garbage). They have nothing they think is worth fighting for. Like spoiled teenagers, they look for something to do at night. Hey, let’s riot!
I think when societies succeed it is only a matter of time until they forget why their ancestors worked so hard.
Well, I think our entire agricultural system is totally unsustainable; that includes pollution as part of the issue, not just from fertilizers and pesticides but also animals wastes. I’m not sure what the solution to that is, though. I do think gov’t makes it WORSE by subsidies to mega-farms and ridiculous ideas like NAIS and HR875 that punish small-scale farmers.
Other than that, I am suspicious of things like flouride and chloramine in the water supply. I used to think of course these were beneficial things- they keep our teeth strong and purify the water, right? But I’ve become much more cynical in the last few years, lol.
Regarding CO2, no, I am totally skeptical of the sky-is-falling global warming crowd. It is just too politically and financially convenient for them.
Sorry for the (late) long-winded answer.
I usually agree with Michelle, but I think she’s mistaken on this issue. For a different take, read this.
It’s quite long, but read it all.
Not long winded; complete. We have the same agricultural issues here in the Midwest. All the factors you mention can have a severe impact on water quality. The subsidizes you mention do punish famiy farmers who should be the backbone of our commercial agriculture.
When you are passing your farm on to your kids, you are a much better steward of your land.
Water additives seem to be okay, but scrutiny is always prudent.
Post 138 above nailed the history that got us to CO2. Also, the data do not support the global warmers premise at all.
I am too am skeptical of anyone who tries to convince you that you must accept their position because the sky is falling. Note that everything Obama wants to accomplish is to saveus from doom and gloom. Ya right…
Thanks for the response.
Have you ever heard of a thing called fluoridation? — fluoridation of water? Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face? Do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water — why, there are studies under way to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk, ice cream? Ice cream, Texas T! — children’s ice cream!
Poor Brits can’t even fight back. Let some damn left over old freak throw something into my window. The Left has had soft targets too long.Many of these “anti-capitalist” have become rich in the shakedown/consulting racket.
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Shoot back–it’s fun-see them run (poetic ain’t it?)
Chap,
My three letter rely to you is
P O E
Thankfully, we have pure grain alcohol and our essence.
I understand that these days it’s people on the left who are making a stink about flouride. God knows they’ve already made a stink about every other substance known to man, so I suppose it was only a matter of time.
I have always wanted to meet a anarchist a**clown face to face so I could I ask them one simple question. If you do tear everything down like you wish, where were you planning to get your food from about a week afterwards?
The faces of “Tolerance-Peace-Unity-One World/One Heart” coming together once again to show the world that they are anything but.
This time, the Liberals cannot blame Bush. This time they cannot blame the Republicans for any of the riots and damage and potential loss of life. These are THEIR PEOPLE. These are the people who, if they lived here, would be voting for the likes of Obama, Frank, Dodd, Schumer, and the other Robber Barons of the Political Spectrum.
And the poor bankers, shop owners and others in London and the rest of England…they are no longer allowed to properly protect themselves and their businesses and property because the people of England have been forced to turn in all their handguns and other types of firearms. They have lost their ability to quell the blighters as they enter their businesses and banks. They are forbidden to take care of anyone who tries to drag them into the street to be lynched.
We are not seeing the results of Capitalism and the Free Market. What we are and have been witnessing is the result of Liberal laws and politics that has been running amock for decades now. We are seeing the results of “diverstity” and the results of what happens when you are not permitted to foster pride in yourself, your country and your people.
Would America and England, for instance, have been allowed to foster such pride, then no one would permit anyone to come in and destroy it. They would not want rabble to come to their country and destroy the foundations of their nations. They would be proud to be Americans. They would still be proud to be British and all that is British, from their banks to their shops. But Liberalism does not allow for that. Instead it only allows for the individual and what the individual wants and what makes the individual happy.
There can be no unity with diversity. The very definitions of both words say as much, and with diversity comes destruction and this is only the beginning.
The Federal Reserve and IMF Ponsi Skeem is up. Ask Madoff, they ALWAYS come to an end eventually. Now its time to start over with a “World Currency”… Yeah, Right.
Could you clarify your post a bit? I don’t understand what you are getting at. You didn’t use periods at the end of your sentences which leads me to wonder if you were planning to finish them and perhaps make your post more understandable? From what I can figure out, you are saying you think the democrats will prosecute the bankers who defrauded? Is that what you are saying? The reason I ask is because it is so laughable, you can’t really be serious. The democrats prosecuting the very people who are their best buddies and who put them in office? The dems ARE the problem, not the solution. So please, set me straight on the intent of your post. Otherwise, I might assume you are crazy. Oh, and if you would use periods at the end of your sentences, you might at least appear to have gotten past the third grade.
A while back I was in El Paso and was looking across the border from some high ground. There was an ugly yellow cloud of polution covering Juarez and it soon drifted north. The conservationist keep putting more and more restrictions on El Paso, which cost the people more money. Do you think they know where the polution is coming from ? Hell yes, but they don’t care! Control is all that matters.
The ‘rage’ at AIG is the Obama equivalent of the ‘Reichstag fire’ of the Hitler era – beware of the next steps.
Those that refuse to read [and learn] history are doomed to repeat it, and we surely are.
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CONSERVATIVEINEUROPE #138 mentions banning DDT as one of the environmental improvements. The latest information seems to debunk this as BAD SCIENCE–which resulted in a HORRIBLE DEATH TOLL in Africa, South America, and Asia.
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Rachel Carlson’s SILENT SPRING book laid bird egg shell weakness on DDT–she thought the 1970’s evidence was correct. Later it turned out that some kind of genetic mutation was responsible for these problems.
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DDT almost completely eliminated malaria deaths from the 1940’s to the 1970’s. These deaths grew horribly–40 million children and adults–since DDT was banned. It was cheap, does not seem to cause problems with people or wildlife, and lasts 6 months after application.
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The replacements for DDT are much more expensive and only last a few weeks. Poorer countries–where most of the deaths occur–can not afford them. Food is more important than dying from malaria there.
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A lot of poorer countries want DDT to be used again–to save their children. Environmental bad science has killed many of them.
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John Bibb
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Shades of 1930s Germany.
Demonize a certain people and turn everyone on them.
sound familiar?
I am in London right now and on a tour of the city we passed by the demonstations in Hyde Park. They appeared to be mostly orderly and populated by the usual gang of idiots. There was a massive police presence and traffic around Hyde Park and Kensington is screwed to hell. It took forever to get around the park.
London is lovely in spite of all that.
Rocketman,
I have heard that as well and you are correct. However, there are more birds of prey in the US today. So, I am wrong, admittedly on this one thing and a lot of people have malaria in Africa. The libs are happy because animals, in their eyes, are always more important than humans.
Thanks for setting me straight.
Carey
Ret Fireman,
I agree with everything you said except the idea that Americans and the British think alike on these terms. The fact is that Socialism didn’t arrive in the UK like a thief in the night. The Brits demanded it en masse and kicked Churchill out of office to make sure the lefties ran the country. When the natural course was run in the mid ’70’s and the UK was on the brink of real financial breakdown, they elected the Thatcher government who fixed the British economy and broke the Unions who had destroyed the country. As soon as they saw the chance, the Brits threw Maggie under the bus too.
You see, the Brits are what I call “Fair Weather” Communists. They love socialism as long as it works for them. Every 30 years or so, a Conservative government has to bail them out. When the damage is corrected, the Brits immediately turn back to the left. They are masochistic that way.
We are the exact opposite. Since WW2, we have tended to keep conservative governments longer (Clinton was the only 2 term Dem since Truman-who was actually conservative and hated by Democrats after ‘47). Every 98 to 12 years, we tend to forget how crappy things get under a left wing government and elect one. Like I said, excepting Clinton, we have tended to correct ourselves rather quickly. We seem to be masochistic too, just with less time of pain.
I am around Brits all the time. It is a mistake to believe that they think like us, agree with us or enjoy being around us. America Envy predominates that thought pattern there. They are nice enough but the nanny state mentality is pervasive.
My nephew (through marriage) is British, as are several of my friends, and i would NEVER presume to think that Brits and Americans think exactly alike. I also know that they wanted to Socialize their country vs. the fight that has been happening here. However, the point of what I was writing about was not that Socialism crept up on anyone. No, it is the RESULTS of the PC mess, the Affirmative Actions, the Dicersity nonsense, the hyphenation morons and such. THAT is what slowly took over until now, it will take a large event, not necessarily peaceful, to rid either or both countries of the damage…if it can be done at all.
Can’t disagree..
I think that all of the power they plan to save during “Earth hour” could be redirected towards tasers that should be used on these punks until they are flopping on the ground like a fish out of water.
What a useless, deliberately uninformed, mob. A most singular waste of protoplasm and space that would be better occupied by a vacuum.
Do they make 220V AC tasers, say 6 amp?
Would this Belt fed taser do? God Bless America-except the Blue States-and pass the ammunition!
Dimsdale is an extemist.
Hopefully these dim wits will turn off thier headlights while driving down the freeway (to honor the earth of course) and we can just sweep them to the gutter in the morning.
I am not for violence, and I do agree that the anger is misdirected. But what will you do in support of your rights that are being taken from you day by day. Hell, we pay more taxes now than under King George. Can one condone violence when liberty and our way of life is in jeopardy? Where will law enforcement/military stand when we fight for our liberties and our country.