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		<title>By: Glenn Beck Does the Unthinkable: Asks What Law Permits the Government to Demand AIG Bonuses &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Beck Does the Unthinkable: Asks What Law Permits the Government to Demand AIG Bonuses &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ******** UPDATE: Video on Hot Air: Glenn Beck yells at Connecticut AG for 11 minutes over AIG bonuses Fox News: Are Sen. Dodd&#8217;s AIG Actions Impeachable? The Daley Gator: The Audacity of Thuggery! Michelle Malkin: Financial manipulation alert: Did AIG bailout money secretly prop up banks? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ******** UPDATE: Video on Hot Air: Glenn Beck yells at Connecticut AG for 11 minutes over AIG bonuses Fox News: Are Sen. Dodd&#8217;s AIG Actions Impeachable? The Daley Gator: The Audacity of Thuggery! Michelle Malkin: Financial manipulation alert: Did AIG bailout money secretly prop up banks? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: plymouthacclaim</title>
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		<dc:creator>plymouthacclaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capitalism can&#039;t die any more than gravity can die.  You can temporarily overcome gravity with brute force, but it will triumph in the end.  The same with capitalism.  It might just take a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capitalism can&#8217;t die any more than gravity can die.  You can temporarily overcome gravity with brute force, but it will triumph in the end.  The same with capitalism.  It might just take a while.</p>
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		<title>By: love2rumba</title>
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		<dc:creator>love2rumba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Not to toot my horn, but I was linking to articles and blog posts the last week or so saying that AIG was bailed out to save politically connected banks and investment houses.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yep..it is a matter of degree of connection, not sane financial practices</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Not to toot my horn, but I was linking to articles and blog posts the last week or so saying that AIG was bailed out to save politically connected banks and investment houses.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yep..it is a matter of degree of connection, not sane financial practices</p>
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		<title>By: cheapseat</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheapseat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i tried to explain to lgm and chappie last week as the stock market was going up that it was all end of quarter short covering, and after the month end, look out.  well the dow has fallen 400 plus points in the last 2 days.  by the end of this week as obama gets his ass kicked in europe, the market will be back at 6500.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i tried to explain to lgm and chappie last week as the stock market was going up that it was all end of quarter short covering, and after the month end, look out.  well the dow has fallen 400 plus points in the last 2 days.  by the end of this week as obama gets his ass kicked in europe, the market will be back at 6500.</p>
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		<title>By: MarcoPolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarcoPolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a friend on Wall St.  Here&#039;s what he told me:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyone who believes the bank profits are anything but accounting gimmicks is a fool. Here&#039;s the deal - Banks have been booking their normal monthly and expenses, from their regular operating activities, in the first 2 months of 1st quarter. These typically are profitable (duh.) Coupled with the fact that most banks can borrow money at zero percent interest, they&#039;re turning a profit.

But at the end of March, they will have to assess the garbage assets (like their CDOs) still on their balance sheets. Given there is no market for these, they will incur further massive writedowns which will obliterate any operating line profits they have. (unless Tiny Timmy waves his wand and takes them away.)

This is why they are desperately begging to get rid of the mark-to-market rule for illiquid assets. It makes it all too clear that they really are in deep, deep $#%^.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


(edited for naughty word.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a friend on Wall St.  Here&#8217;s what he told me:</p>
<blockquote><p>Anyone who believes the bank profits are anything but accounting gimmicks is a fool. Here&#8217;s the deal &#8211; Banks have been booking their normal monthly and expenses, from their regular operating activities, in the first 2 months of 1st quarter. These typically are profitable (duh.) Coupled with the fact that most banks can borrow money at zero percent interest, they&#8217;re turning a profit.</p>
<p>But at the end of March, they will have to assess the garbage assets (like their CDOs) still on their balance sheets. Given there is no market for these, they will incur further massive writedowns which will obliterate any operating line profits they have. (unless Tiny Timmy waves his wand and takes them away.)</p>
<p>This is why they are desperately begging to get rid of the mark-to-market rule for illiquid assets. It makes it all too clear that they really are in deep, deep $#%^.</p></blockquote>
<p>(edited for naughty word.)</p>
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		<title>By: Billions More for Failed Bailouts&#160;&#124;&#160;OpenMarket.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billions More for Failed Bailouts&#160;&#124;&#160;OpenMarket.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been using AIG to artificially juice up banks&#8217; profits, and indirectly the stock market, in order to give Obama the political capital needed to pass his deficit-exploding budget, which [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has been using AIG to artificially juice up banks&#8217; profits, and indirectly the stock market, in order to give Obama the political capital needed to pass his deficit-exploding budget, which [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HOW ARE WE GOING TO STOP ALL THIS??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOW ARE WE GOING TO STOP ALL THIS??</p>
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		<title>By: jhn1</title>
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		<dc:creator>jhn1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;(readers should feel free to provide more gripping allegories).&quot;

How about AIG sells off &quot;troubled&quot; thousand dollar bills at 5% of face value to other financial institutions also &quot;too big to be allowed to fail&quot;.
Favored financial institutions resell &quot;troubled&quot; thousand dollar bills at 15% of face value and pocket lots of &quot;profits&quot;, while holding press conferences about return of profitability (spiking their stock prices upwards). Whoever bought these is going to have to go through whatever legal battles to recover the value, and suffer whatever losses occur to whatever part is not recoverable.
Taxpayers replace AIG&#039;s &quot;troubled&quot; thousand dollar bills at face value.

Two winners
One maybe winner yet to play
Only one nonwinner, and if the maybe wins they can be attacked for winning at taxpayer expense and the profits &quot;recovered&quot; for &quot;the people&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(readers should feel free to provide more gripping allegories).&#8221;</p>
<p>How about AIG sells off &#8220;troubled&#8221; thousand dollar bills at 5% of face value to other financial institutions also &#8220;too big to be allowed to fail&#8221;.<br />
Favored financial institutions resell &#8220;troubled&#8221; thousand dollar bills at 15% of face value and pocket lots of &#8220;profits&#8221;, while holding press conferences about return of profitability (spiking their stock prices upwards). Whoever bought these is going to have to go through whatever legal battles to recover the value, and suffer whatever losses occur to whatever part is not recoverable.<br />
Taxpayers replace AIG&#8217;s &#8220;troubled&#8221; thousand dollar bills at face value.</p>
<p>Two winners<br />
One maybe winner yet to play<br />
Only one nonwinner, and if the maybe wins they can be attacked for winning at taxpayer expense and the profits &#8220;recovered&#8221; for &#8220;the people&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: flenser</title>
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		<dc:creator>flenser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; alas, this is what we get for so many generations of career welfare recipients being allowed to vote &lt;/blockquote&gt;



You&#039;re correct, as long as you understand that the biggest welfare recipients of all are on Wall Street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> alas, this is what we get for so many generations of career welfare recipients being allowed to vote </p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re correct, as long as you understand that the biggest welfare recipients of all are on Wall Street.</p>
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		<title>By: flenser</title>
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		<dc:creator>flenser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Get the government OUT OF PRIVATE INDUSTRY NOW!
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, but private industry will fight you every step of the way in doing that.

There are no atheists in foxholes, and there are no free-marketeers in bankrupt corporations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Get the government OUT OF PRIVATE INDUSTRY NOW!
</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, but private industry will fight you every step of the way in doing that.</p>
<p>There are no atheists in foxholes, and there are no free-marketeers in bankrupt corporations.</p>
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		<title>By: flenser</title>
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		<dc:creator>flenser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We either pump federal money into the system to let it unwind via the private market driven deals, which is what is really going on with AIG, or we nationalize everything and essentially zero out all their transactions under one roof….the government owned financial system roof. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How about we do neither of those things? Pumping money into the system is being done to &lt;em&gt;stop it&lt;/em&gt; unwinding. If we ever want things to really resolve themselves we need to stop pumping money into these companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We either pump federal money into the system to let it unwind via the private market driven deals, which is what is really going on with AIG, or we nationalize everything and essentially zero out all their transactions under one roof….the government owned financial system roof.
</p></blockquote>
<p>How about we do neither of those things? Pumping money into the system is being done to <em>stop it</em> unwinding. If we ever want things to really resolve themselves we need to stop pumping money into these companies.</p>
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		<title>By: flenser</title>
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		<dc:creator>flenser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;were basically a transfer of money from taxpayers to banks &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not exactly communism, is it? It&#039;s almost like we&#039;re getting ripped off by politically connected rich people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>were basically a transfer of money from taxpayers to banks </p></blockquote>
<p>Not exactly communism, is it? It&#8217;s almost like we&#8217;re getting ripped off by politically connected rich people.</p>
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		<title>By: Pasadena Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pasadena Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So long as the game requires that we all assume that this is just a crisis in investor confidence, nothing will get fixed and we will continue to dump taxpayer money into the abyss never to see it again. 

You would think that with all the talk of disclosure and accountability, we would be getting disclosure and accountability. 

This is the biggest organized looting of public wealth in history by far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So long as the game requires that we all assume that this is just a crisis in investor confidence, nothing will get fixed and we will continue to dump taxpayer money into the abyss never to see it again. </p>
<p>You would think that with all the talk of disclosure and accountability, we would be getting disclosure and accountability. </p>
<p>This is the biggest organized looting of public wealth in history by far.</p>
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		<title>By: nbarry</title>
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		<dc:creator>nbarry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the banks to which AIG funneled our tax dollars is UBS, which has made fortunes helping tax evaders and money launderers get away with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the banks to which AIG funneled our tax dollars is UBS, which has made fortunes helping tax evaders and money launderers get away with it.</p>
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		<title>By: txvet2</title>
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		<dc:creator>txvet2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why this comes as a shock or a surprise.  What part of &quot;insure&quot; don&#039;t you understand????  What did you think the money was for?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why this comes as a shock or a surprise.  What part of &#8220;insure&#8221; don&#8217;t you understand????  What did you think the money was for?????</p>
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