This is the sort of heated hype-talk that you all spew, but when specifics are called for, you come up with nothing.

yeah less-than-zero is a typical darwiniac…spews talking point, but is ignorant of anything deeper than that.

the arrogance, and intellectual shallowness is typical of atheists. They think they’re the smartest people in the room, but consistently are the dumbest.

evolution is not seen in the fossil record, nor in the lab. its nothing more than atheist faith…which is why it is so rabidly defended by the intolerant hate-filled darwiniacs.

You believe that all there is or can be is what you can see, feel, hear, and perceive with your senses.

Oh yah, that’s so incredibly radical and evil; heaven forbid I should not imagine anything supernatural!

No, you see, the flat-earthers did exactly what you are doing, denying in the face of overwhelming evidence. Note: flat-earth was not the “scientifically” accepted theory of the time. Thinkers far earlier had worked out the truth and indeed the educated knew the truth. Galileo’s beef was with a geocentric view of the solar system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes

Anyhow: what exactly is your “counter-theory?”

Your faith is in materialism. You believe that all there is or can be is what you can see, feel, hear, and perceive with your senses. In short, it is a philosophy that you have staked your life upon. As such, it is not science, because it presumes things that can not be tested (falsified) scientifically, anymore than spiritual precepts can be. It takes presumptions, and goes out into the world in a desperate attempt to find anything that will back it up.

It is the opposite of science. Science is about the search of new discoveries, and knowledge. Darwinism starts from the basis of having already assumed that it knows how everything is, and will be, and that there can be no other explanation than what ol’ Chuck told us over 150 years ago.

You Darwinists are no different from the flat-Earthers in Galileo’s time (the “scientific consensus” in the 16th century) who called anyone who said that the Earth revolved around the sun a heretic. Your information regarding “ALL living things are descended from a common ancestor. This IS science. It is supported by massive amounts of evidence” is laughable. This is the sort of heated hype-talk that you all spew, but when specifics are called for, you come up with nothing.

Nothing is going to be accomplished by attacking your faith-based philosophy of what was, is, and will be. All I can do is hope that someday you will sincerely seek truth, rather than what you’ve been indoctrinated to believe. And for what it’s worth, most of the folks who are wasting their time debating you are nimrods.

It’s cool man. It was my job and I was proud to do it. No thanks necessary.

Hitcharide:

There are massive amounts of evidence to back up evolution and there is a reason why more or less every scientist on Earth accepts it. There are only two possibilities based on the fossil and genetic evidence: either evolution occurred, or a creator made it APPEAR as evolution occurred. Evolution is hardly “half-baked” it is one of the most supported and accepted scientific theories we have, even more so then relativity. I would also recommend “Why Evolution is True” by Jerry Coyne to you as well, (having mentioned it to John before) since we are trading reading lists.

What exactly about evolution do you imagine is wrong and why?

What is your “counter-theory?”

The fact that our founding fathers (many of whom were Deists and not Christians) wrote something about a creator in the Constitution doesn’t stop people like me from accepting what they had to say and looking at the word “creator” in a poetic sense. The idea that all human beings have universal rights does not require a deity.

As far as recognizing a higher power and deriving your morality from it; it’s silly, since no one can communicate with this higher power. Plenty of people claim to know what “god” wants; but no one has any clue because you can’t talk to “god.”

Anyhow, what if I told you atheism was among the most fulfilling and enriching things I ever accepted? It has allowed me to appreciate life even more, realizing that this is “all that I am.”

I don’t mind “competition” at all. In my mind, anyone that attempts to stamp out religion is fighting a losing battle and they will only succeed in making people upset. A simple and constant exposure to education and facts is all it takes to dispel mythology.

Finally, your arguments about state-sponsored atheism and what atheism leads to have all been argued in the past on this forum. If you sincerely believe atheism will always leads to atrocity then you have to believe an Ayn Rand style “Objectivist” state would lead to genocide and slaughter. It’s just plain ridiculous.

My “kind?” Are “some of your best friends” also atheists?

Thank you for your service.

LOL! That actually did make me smile. I have never been divorced and have only one wife, but I can certainly relate to the idea that it’s more or less impossible to argue with one’s wife (esp. a pregnant one).

Also, a reminder, not only am I fiscally conservative I am a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment and the war, indeed I served a tour in Iraq while in the Army.

I do not have a suitable moniker for you; but I usually reserve that honor for people that really piss me off. You haven’t done so at all.

However, if zero is going to refer to happyscrapper as Sybil because he believes she has two personalities, then I must provide zeroangel with a moniker suited to a person who must not only be right, but must also make me insist I am wrong.

Zeroangel, you are now Ex-Wife!

Is that true even if the truth contradicts a literal interpretation of Genesis?

the only thing that contradicts genesis are your lies.

evolved anything yet??? loser

and yeah atheists are an immoral, evil, intolerant, hellish lot.

Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hoxha…the French Terror

yeah you atheists have a lot of history…all of it bloody…

Pity, we were doing so nicely. My issue is that the assertion is often made that the Nazis were nothing but atheists. This is not true; indeed it may have been true of some of the leadership; said leadership might have also been occultists; pagans; or even trying to hold up Hitler as a messiah.

In any case, the idea that Nazis and Nazi supporters were all atheists and the implication that this atheism led to atrocity is false and an indirect slander at atheists.

Furthermore, we come back to the “not a TRUE Christian argument” something Happyscrapper illustrated perfectly with #175.

I know there are non-Christians who are good as well, but there do seem to be a lot fewer of them.

So, of all the Hindus; Buddhists, Shintos, Jews, atheists, etc. of the world; most of whom are just regular people living out their lives; in general, Christians are the best of the lot?

You seem to have a problem with Christians, and I’d say that is YOUR problem.

I have a problem with fundamentalists. “Moderate” Christians (who are probably the majority even on this board) are no problem. It is the lunatics that try desperately to fit literal interpretations of the Bible into science or who make claims like “only Christians go to heaven.” What an awful and cruel deity that sounds like. Indeed, those that claim atheists are de facto immoral also piss me off.

I have a problem with athiests/darwinists trying to cram their view of the world down my throat

Do you also have a problem with the heliocentric model of the solar system?

and if the truth bears it out, I’ll be among the first to credit and support it…

Is that true even if the truth contradicts a literal interpretation of Genesis?

On April 1st, 2009 at 9:03 pm, hitcharide said:

Christianity has a past nearly as bad as islams’ present.

not a chance. thank God for Charles Martel, the monks of St. John, and the Crusades…otherwise we’d all be muslim..

skeptics.com nobelief.com

do you ever read anything other than wacko atheist cult web sites?

you just can’t bear any other opinion other than yours…bet your shirt is brown and starched…