Mohammed Cartoons redux: Make no apology for defending Western values; Update: Obama bows again
Scroll for updates…Obama’s assuaging message to the Muslim world…
There is a reason we call Muslim mau-mau-ers the Religion of Perpetual Outrage. They will never give up until you give in. Three years after the Mohammed Cartoon conflagration, the grievance-mongers are still trying to extract contrition out of the Danes and others who stood up for the West and for free speech.
Unfortunately, the ROPO bullies squeezed conciliatory remarks from Former Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen. He didn’t say the exact words “I’m sorry,” but he might as well have tattooed it on his forehead:
New NATO chief pledges conciliation with Muslims
Former Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen said on Monday he would pay close attention to religious sensibilities in his new role as NATO chief in comments aimed at allaying Muslim concerns at his appointment.
Turkey had threatened to veto Rasmussen’s appointment over his handling of a 2006 crisis triggered by cartoons of Islam’s Prophet Mohammad in a Danish newspaper. His comments fell short of the outright apology which Turkish officials had hoped for.
“I respect Islam as one of the world’s major religions as well as its religious symbols,” Rasmussen said during a panel discussion at an Istanbul conference aimed at building bridges between the Muslim world and the West…
…”I was deeply distressed that the cartoons were seen by many Muslims as an attempt by Denmark to mark and insult or behave disrespectively toward Islam or the Prophet Mohammad. Nothing could be further from my mind,” Rasmussen said…
…”During my tenure as the secretary general of NATO I will pay close attention to the religious and cultural sensibilities of the different communities that populate our increasingly pluralistic and globalized world,” Rasmussen said.
How about telling the thugs to start paying attention to the sensibilities of civilized people who don’t wage riots, murder people, and issue death threats over cartoons?
How about a reminder of the cultural insensitivities of the Mo mob to tolerance and free speech?
And how about a reminder of the manufactured pretext that fanned the flames? Remember:
The rage was manufactured pretext. The cartoons had been published four months earlier with little fanfare. It wasn’t until a delegation of instigating Danish imams toured Egypt with the cartoons—plus a few inflammatory fake ones including an old image of a French hog-calling contest participant deceptively portrayed as “anti-Muslim”—that the fire started burning. Think the mainstream media will remember that? Not likely. They fell for the ruse and were slow to acknowledge it after American bloggers and Danish television exposed the scheme.
What was really behind Cartoon Rage? Muslim bullies were attempting to pressure Denmark over the International Atomic Energy Agency’s decision to report Iran to the UN Security Council for continuing with its nuclear research program. The chairmanship of the council was passing to Denmark at the time…
…Alas, Western journalists, analysts, and apologists were too clouded by their cowardice and conciliation to see through the smoke. More than 800 were injured in the ensuing riots and 130 people paid with their lives. The innocents included Italian Catholic priest Andrea Santoro, who was shot to death in Turkey on Feb. 5 by a teenage boy enraged by the illustrations. The Muslim gunman shouted “Allahu Akbar!” as he murdered Father Santoro while the priest knelt praying in his church. Several brave moderate Muslim editors who stood up to the madness were jailed, fined, and convicted of crimes related to insulting Islam.
Allahpundit raises a good question about our president’s role in NATO chief Rasmussen’s supplication to Turkish leaders: What did Obama do and when did he do it?
You will not hear a staunch, clear defense of Western values from the President of the United States on this fundamental issue of liberty vs. tyranny, to borrow Mark Levin’s phrase. Obama’s Bow –like Bush’s hand-holding and sword-dancing with the Wahabbis — is just the tip of the submission iceberg.
Does Rasmussen’s groveling or Obama’s silence speak for you? Literal and figurative curtsies to the Mo mob? Not in my name!
Lan astaslem: Arabic for “I will not submit/surrender”
***
Poligazette weighs in on Rasmussen’s political apology.
***
Update: Obama assuages the Muslim world…
President Barack Obama says the United States is not at war with Islam.
The U.S. president is trying to mend fences with a Muslim world that felt it had been blamed by America for the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.Speaking in Muslim-dominated Turkey, Obama acknowledged that relations between the United States and the Muslim world has been strained. So he said, “Let me say this as clearly as I can: The United States is not at war with Islam.”
And then he said:
But we will not forget 9/11 or WTC 1993 or the USS Cole bombing or Madrid or London or Bali or the Khobar Towers or the African embassy bombings or the Millenium plot or the NYC landmarks plot. And we will not turn a blind eye toward the misery that the sharia enforcers have caused around the world. The United States is not at war with Islam. But Islam’s warriors remain hell-bent on destroying our way of life. And that, let me say this as clearly as I can, will not stand.
In your dreams.
***
Own a signed copy of Danish cartoonist Kurt Westergaard’s Mo cartoon. Westergaard has no regrets.
See what others have said
Note from Michelle: This section is for comments from michellemalkin.com's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that I agree with or endorse any particular comment just because I let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with my terms of use may lose his or her posting privilege.
Comments
You must be logged in to post a comment.
 |
The new forbidden cartoons: Muslim Minnie and Mickey Mouse
June 28, 2011 10:21 PM by Michelle Malkin
86 Comments
Bomb attack in Sweden: The Cartoon Jihad never ends; Updated
December 12, 2010 10:06 AM by Michelle Malkin
58 Comments
What else is new: Muslim initiates “Burn the Stars and Stripes Day”
September 9, 2010 10:29 AM by Michelle Malkin
163 Comments
Dhimmitude and Draw Mohammed Day
May 20, 2010 09:46 AM by Michelle Malkin
143 Comments“Kill these all KAFIR”
May 18, 2010 09:44 AM by Michelle Malkin
51 CommentsNot again: Another Mohammed Cartoon conflagration
February 12, 2010 12:04 PM by Michelle Malkin
67 Comments
It never ends: Jihadi attack on Danish cartoonist
January 1, 2010 11:52 PM by Michelle Malkin
436 Comments
Car bombing at Danish embassy in Islamabad; Denmark responds: “We will not give them that victory”
June 2, 2008 07:57 AM by Michelle Malkin
47 Comments
Categories: Danish Cartoons
Redstate
» Morning Briefing for February 14, 2012Betsys Page
» Cruising the WebPundit & Pundette
» Bishop Jenky, Nicki Minaj, and the "98%"Sister Toldjah
» Obama’s new budget is a bad joke
When it comes to co-existing with people who have fundamentally different beliefs, I think the old principle of “good fences make good neighbors” should apply.
If you cross the fence, don’t be surprised by the response.
On April 6th, 2009 at 11:44 am, zeroangel said:
Maniah:
“Are you seriously trying to aruge that BO is Satan incarnate sent to destroy the world?”
Let’s see. Partial birth abortion? Yep, I’d say that is destroying the world one person at a time.
I agree. It is also my understanding that the anti-Christ would be born in a foreign country, not the U.S. Oh, wait…
ALCON, observe:
*I* am not the one constantly baiting or trying to get anyone off topic. The truth is it is the exact opposite. Other posters attempt to goad me, and then I am blamed when I respond. In any case, I am against partial birth abortion.
In any case:
so cicerokid, you honestly and literally think our sitting president is Satan?
I agree… but keep an open mind.
c’mon zero, I made it clear that I was given pause for thought, but I never said I was in hook line and sinker. It is interesting, and moreso if you are a person of faith and do not see the second coming of Christ as a fairytale but a real and coming event.
One world currency, the loss of morals, the mesermization of a nation by a false dealer, partial birth abortion (yes!) amongst other things, lets just say i HOPE He comes soon, before my children have to grow up in a world where all of this is life as we know it.
Remember – I’m a conservative and a Catholic. That makes me incapable of having an “open mind” according to liberals.
Number of miles Korean missle flew before splashdown: 1,984 (reported)
Number of miles from northern Iran (up near the Turkmenistan border) to Denmark: approx 2,400 miles.
Ditto for Rome and Munich, btw.
So if our friends in N. Korea can get that missile of theirs a bit more range, and can perhaps get some guidance in it, then most of Europe is “in range.”
If they can get it to 3,000 miles, btw, then London and Paris are in range.
Sweet.
I wonder if Iran is already building silos comparable to our old Titans? That’s certainly within their technical capabilities. Nothing too hard there.
It’s been 700 years since Europeans felt the tender mercies of Muslims.
I say we let them have another taste. I’m sick of defending them.
Maniah:
I was just asking. I am curious to what degree you buy into the idea. There are many people that are “people of faith” and indeed believe in a “second coming.” Of those people I am sure very few would take the stuff you posted seriously at all.
So, that said, how credible do you think the idea that BO is Satan is?
Anyhow, personally, I hope the world DOES NOT end anytime soon.
I think a lot of people agree with you.
iamsaved said (#62):
I’m thinking of that great Christian French writer Sartre and his play “No Exit”, which is about a special room in Hell where … (not to give it away).
Mainah said (#91):
I’m not sure whether this over the top post is supposed to be a joke. In other threads people have accused me of responding to jokes. Just in case it’s serious, Barack is an Arabic word that is a cognate of the Hebrew word Baruch. Both words mean “blessed”. Baruch is a common Jewish first name.
I’m sorry. No matter how socialist or pacifist our “friends” in Europe are in general, I cannot get on board with this.
There are plenty of decent people in Europe that are indeed sick of the PC treatment Muslims get; I think this is partially why France managed to elect such a “conservative.”
I don’t want to abandon all these people.
That can’t happen… he lost his head long ago…
I vote we bring those people here and send Islamic sympathizers to Europe.
englishqueen01:
Well, unfortunately, you can’t force anyone to abandon their home.
Ah, lgm learned all he ever needed to know about Christianity from an atheist, existentialist and communist, who spent time with both Fidel Castro and Che Guevera!
That explains so much.
No, but you can dream. Because, like you, I read comments on some of the UK papers and most are fed up with capitulation to Islam. I feel for them.
Politicians, however, don’t seem to care.
EQ:
Without getting into Satre’s writings and philosophy, I’ll just say the following:
Sure there are plenty of reasons why being a Communist is bad (it doesn’t work), but there is nothing wrong with being an atheist *smile*.
Sorry I posted a comment twice…I thought the first one didn’t “take”!
No. But it’s interesting that lgm seems to base his views on Christianity (at least in this instance) not on experience, or study of religion…but on a play by someone who doesn’t necessarily challenge his views.
That’s like saying he knows how grill because he owned a Playskool “Charlie Coal the Grill” as a child.
The word “Barack” is shared among several languages. First, it is a word in the (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages) Semitic family of languages. As such it mistakenly has been thought to have the root in Hebrew written as baruch, but since the word Barak in Hebrew exists independently, pronounced as Barak with no twisting of sounds, it is the true word from which any meaning should be taken. A version in Aramaic (berek), a version in Arabic (baraka). (See Strong’s Hebrew Bible Dictionary, entries 1288-1294.) It also occurs as a loan word in non-Semitic languages that have been influenced by these Semitic languages, such as Kiswahili (the most widely spoken African language). As often happens, cognate words are similar in pronunciation. What appears in a later-appearing language may sound like something else in the earlier language. And in English we sometimes see words that are pronounced the same and even spelled the same, but that have very different meanings.
Baraka means ‘blessing’ in Kiswahili and comes from the Arabic spoken by the Omani Arabs that lived and traded along the coast of East Africa. Though it came to Kiswahili from Arabic it no longer has any sectarian connotations and is in common use amongst East Africans of all faiths. It is a common name for boys in Kenya and Tanzania.
Barack or Barak means ‘lightning’ in Hebrew. The name Barak is also mentioned in the Bible in the book of Judges. Barak was part of the story of the prophetess Deborah.
Baruch (or Baruwk, Baruk, Strong, 1263) and its cognates berek and baraka all mean the same. Strong, 1288, says “barak, baw-rak’, a primitive root; to kneel; by implication to bless God (as an act of adoration), and (vice-versa) man (as a benefit).” (See http://www.virtualchristiancenter.com/biblestudytools/kjvstrongs/STRHEB12.htm)
Regardless of how one spells the name, it gives two possible and not contradictory meanings, and one true meaning. One is “a blessing from God,” and another is “a blessing from God that the individual may pass on to others as a benefit to them.” and the true meaning that cannot be translated any other way is the name Barak which means Lightning.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_origin_of_the_name_Barack
EQ:
LGM was just referring to a play as his source for his quip about a “special place in hell.”
He isn’t making any broad statement about what Christians believe and pointing to said play as doctrine. Obviously, he doesn’t think that Christians think they are going to hell. (What would be the point then?)
Look, I am all for LGM bashing when he is wrong. However, let’s argue against an argument he is actually making *smile*.
Zero – Do you have enough faith to be an atheist?
Maniah:
Please see #109. Please be honest, you don’t actually take the idea that BO is Satan with any degree of seriousness do you?
iamsaved:
Think about it, why would anything in the Bible convince me of anything? I regard it as an ancient book written by ancient people and that’s all.
Zero- It’s called faith. If nothing in the Bible will convince you, creation itself should. Look around. It’s right under your nose.
Have you faith enough to believe there was a big bang and everything just randomly fell into place and what you see now is the result? Now that, to me, is a gigantic leap of faith.
True.
However, I’m curious as to WHY Christians? The equivocal nature of tying Christians with Islam is interesting. As you yourself said, it’s easy to see the trouble with Islam.
Or why is it that he assumes only CHRISTIANS don’t like Islam or that we’re fomenting war with them, when they’re the ones who said they want to destroy us and have been for decades, if not centuries.
Obama Satan? No, but a servant of the anti-Christ to be sure; clever too, just not quite clever as Satan. But the world is full of servants of the anti-Christ and has been since the First Century.
Sitting in God Damn America Reverend Wright’s church for twenty years tells us all an honest person would need to know. Fools think otherwise.
zero, I hope before the world does end that you get to hold your baby in your arms, and maybe (with enough prayers from people who have taken a liking to you even though you can be at least as much of a pita as they are themselves) you will see the work of God in his face.
Know this, I am a person who struggles every day to live the words of God in a world in which it is very hard to do so. I am imperfect to say the least, and I am a sinner in many ways. But my heart is open to the teachings of the Bible, and I believe there will be a second coming.
I believe that our world has come to a place that is so clearly divided beween good and evil that it would make perfect sense to wonder if this is the end that God warned us of. Spiritually wondering, searching, is not always the same as matter of factly declaring something true. I do not know, no one knows.
But I am paying attention, and hoping when the time does come, that I got it right. I pray that for you, too, whether you like it or not, because I see kindness and decency in you.
Faith is intangible, we just have to do the best we can, and keeping our hearts and minds open to the guidance we have been given in the Bible is all we can do. The Bible gave us prophesies, and even if they sound crazy, it is our faith to listen. I heard it, am weighing it, and trying to share what I have heard in order to make sense of it.
Many liberals and atheists would say believing in God at all is crazy, so their judgement does not bother me.
iamsaved:
Not this argument again. NOT AGAIN, I say! I have answered these exact questions time and time again in other threads.
How many times do I have to cite rebuttals of the “fine tuning” argument and explain misunderstandings of evolution?
I will not allow you to goad me into another thread hi-jack. I am invoking the “Zero-Angel atheist challenge” method I mentioned in another thread.
In order to get me to engage you on this topic I firstly require that you completely state your belief on how the universe and man came to be and open it to criticism from me and explain how it is supported by evidence.
If you cannot spell out your “counter-theory” I will not pursue this topic.
Really? What great muslim helped shape our country?
The rewriting of history before our eyes.
EQ:
Well, in my mind, both Muslims and Christians share some pretty incredible beliefs about the universe and make extraordinary claims about what the creator of the universe wants.
They also have some common roots in Judaism.
However, in my mind, that is where the major similarity ends. Mainstream Christianity has been able to remake and acclimate itself to the modern world. Islam (especially in the Mid East) is having a hard time with that.
Anyhow, you and I are more or less on board. Islam = bad.
Maniah:
The world isn’t going to end until some billions of years later when the sun explodes. Don’t worry. *smile*.
YES!!! Although this thread has gotten so long I’ve almost forgotten what it was you wrote.
Zero: Thou dost protest too much! I don’t need to engage you in an argument. The argument is settled for me. I’m just curious about the faith you have to be an atheist. Let’s face it, it does take the same amount of faith to not believe as it does to believe. If God trully didn’t exist, why would you even bother with the subject?
And, not to burst your bubble, but I’ve not followed your threads on any subject and didn’t mean to get you so agitated about having to respond so frequently to something so offensive to your sensibilities..
zero, sometimes faith is not easy to describe, and I am sure that for you it sounds pat and silly. Maybe a real life example?
Soon after my son died, I was driving down the road (it was his first anniversary) and I was feeling really down. I said to no one in particular(or God, really) if you can hear me, boy, send me a sign. I flipped on the radio, and immediately, “his song” came on. It wasn’t enough of a sign for me. I scoffed, even. About 30 seconds later, a car slid out in front of me on icy roads. I was almost too busy getting mad and considering flipping the bird to realize my sign was right there in front of me. The license plate on the car was his name, exactly, black and white. That is faith, and that is the biggest “coincidence” I could never explain. I think about that day, when I needed so badly to have some reminder that there really is a better place waiting, and how it buoyed my faith. It might have been a coincidence, but I don’t believe it was. *smile*
Let the games begin.
wouldn’t you think that a brilliant guy like barrack would see tht chicago has had a gun ban within chicago for years, yet it has one of the highest murder rates of a large city in the world. it should be especially obvious to barrack, since the majority of the violence is among black and brown residents of that august city, all who have laws against murder as well as gun ownership. yet barry now wants to ban nukes. does anything about this sound familiar? when you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. when you outlaw nukes, only…
iamsaved:
Google “Michelle Malkin zeroangel atheist” or “Michelle Malkin zeroangel evolution.” It will all be there. You are a regular here and I have a hard time imagining you missed any of those threads. I’ll take you at your word, however.
I look only toward evidence, not faith, my answers will be found with the above google search.
Are you serious? Perhaps because some people that believe in at least one version of “god” want to kill me?
As far as my sensibilities, don’t worry I’m fine, thanks for asking. I just don’t want to be accused of being a troll again, perhaps you DID miss those threads, but I won’t let you hi-jack this thread and I won’t be goaded into it anymore.
Here’s my email, if you have any other questions:
zeroang3l@hotmail.com
Please DO NOT try and convert me, it won’t work. I was raised Christian and the day I became an atheist was among the most eye opening and happy events of my life.
Mainah:
Yes. It could have easily been a coincidence and statistically, considering the massive amount of people and events in the world, such things are not uncommon.
zero, this is not a flippant question, just always something I have wondered. Do people who don’t believe in God still say things like “oh my God!” or that other swear word invoking His name? Or “thank God!” or anything similar? I am really genuinely curious, and if you do say any of those, do you kick yourself for it after?
John:
Nope, not going to happen this time. Everyone on this board now has my personal email.
Email me if you care. No more in the public forum. I will still dispel notions that atheism => liberal => evil or similar, but I am not going to explain physics, biology or philosophy anymore. If anyone is truly curious about what I think and is not just asking me because they want to try and goad me into a public bout of atheist bashing they can email me.
Thank you.
Do Muslims consider Obama an apostate? Just wondering.
zero, don’t put your email up, a google search reveals WAY too much. Seriously, even your phone number is there.
Mainah:
OK, I’ll answer that one. It’s really not a controversial thing anyhow.
The answer is it depends on the person. I have met some that purposely try to avoid using it. A couple I know would keep a jar that they would drop change into whenever they slipped up. You know, like some other people do with cursing. I guess it’s really the same thing, just for a different reason.
Personally, I don’t care. I often use such phrases and sometimes purposely replace the word “God” with Zeus, Thor, Odin, Allah, or whatever other deity pops in at the time. Sometimes I even use “goodness” as some people do who don’t want to swear.
very true, first right thing you’ve said…
Hebrews 6
4It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, 6if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance,
Now when B Hussein talks all I can think about is the islamic word for deceiving all non-muslims….what is it again? Rhymes with Taquilla?
Maniah:
The address they will find is an old one. I have moved. My new address is unlisted and in a different state.
but your full name is still the same, I assume?
I guess I just hate to see anyone on a site frequented by liberal nutcases and even a few rightwing ones, present company excluded…share too much private info. It’s a crazy world, be safe.
I would love to own one of Kurt’s prints. Normally, we would even have the $250 to buy it. Oh wait, we just got our tax bill for $12,000.
Damn. I’m really depressed now.
Maniah:
Maybe. *smile* It still will get them nowhere as it is not an uncommon name.
In any case, I’ll attempt to change the profile I imagine you found. If I can’t please email me with any pertinent information you may have found.
I do not think anyone on MM’s site is violent, so I am pretty sure I am OK.
The negligible risk is worth is to stop this off-topic silliness once and for all.
Just having a little fun. That’s all.
right4life:
F you. Bigot.
looks like the truth HURTS
loser.
Why is it that libtards always blame America first? How about Islam should not be fomenting a war against non muslims? Oh yeah.
Written in Koran
1. Convert to Islam
2. Submit to Islam (slave)
3. Die
But we foment. Stop and think for a minute. Let all your evil hatred flow out of you. Take a deep breath. Relax. Now you can see the truth. Welcome back to the real world.
***
My “assuaging message to the Muslim world” (and to other enemies of the U.S.A.) look a little different than President O’bummer’s (PBUH) do.
***
Depending on the number and distance to the enemies I suggest the following tried and true approaches:
***
U.S.A. located enemies–30-06 rifle, M-1 carbine, 12 guage 00 buckshot, .45 caliber pistol, bayonet, rope from tree limb.
***
Overseas enemies–Navy cannon and Tomahawk cruise missiles. U.S. Air Force B-52, B-1, B-2 bombers with appropriate bomb load for the tasks.
***
The “Messiah” keeps sending the message of weakness to our enemies. Too bad that his “kick me” signs are taped to our rear ends.
***
“The One” is inviting the military disasters that will soon befall the new U.S.S.A. If you want peace–prepare for war. If you want war–appease the enemy–it will be paid for in our blood soon.
***
Compare the Ronald Reagan way of handling Libya. No U.N. meetings or sanctions–very few real allies (Britain) involved. Big attack–big message received and acted on by Quadaffi. Problem solved.
***
Then remember the Jimmah Carter (and Neville Chamberlain and Obama) approach. Apppease the enemy, sell out your allies, and don’t sock it to them big time. This approach worked very well when it avoided WW2 and prevented the Jewish holocaust. Deja Vu all over again! Problems (Iran, PLO, Hizbollah, North Korea, etc.) still here and growing more dangerous daily.
***
John Bibb
***
yeah glad I don’t live in NYC or DC!!
R4L:
Truth? R4L your bigotry is absolutely astounding. Among the more fundamentalist Christians on MM’s site you are clearly the worst.
You utterly hate and despise a whole class of fellow human beings just because they don’t follow your meta-physical ideas. That is the very definition of a bigot.
Indeed it IS the truth I won’t be swayed back to Christianity. So what? That truth doesn’t hurt me, it makes me happy!
Anyhow, again, F you very much; you are a cretinous little primate and I am honestly surprised that even your fellow Christians haven’t called you out on just how much of a bigot you are. You would think they would care very much, afterall, it is exactly your rabid and hateful version of religion that the liberals mock. In short, it is people like you that give the decent Christians of the world a bad name.
Please Zero, you’re giving atheists a bad name now. Let’s be civil ok?
uh right, I agree with you, and you curse me…check the mirror for hatred there sonny.
you’re just upset becasue I don’t bow down before your hairygod darwin.
get back on your meds, and take your tin-foil off. and wipe the foam off your chin…
you really are a nut-case.
writing this because I feel it, and not because zero just said he was surprised we hadn’t:
R4L, http://www.jesuswalk.com/hebrews/5_warnings.htm salvation is available to any person, at any time. Your quote was not from God, it was a manmade translation that has several variations, according to who did the transcribing. I may be wrong, but the God I believe in would welcome all comers.
Kindness, by the way, is not painful.
he’s just trying to prove that atheism doesn’t equal evil… *smirk*
ALCON:
For the record: I do not hate Christians or any other religion. It is fundamentalists of all breeds that get my ire up.
People not believing in evolution doesn’t get me upset unless they try to force it into schools.
Finally, I do not think anyone is de facto evil if they aren’t an atheist.
iamsaved:
Look, you probably missed R4L’s previous posts too. I invite you do read some of his past posts and observe the numerous times he has told me I am going to hell.
He is a bigot.
Or how about stopping the whole, “Get out of Arab/Muslim lands” while telling people they need to change their countries and their societies to incorporate Islam and Shari’ah ?
How about actually BLENDING and MELTING into the societies YOU CHOSE to move to and live in?
You moved to that country for a reason. Then, the first thing you do is attempt to change that place into the exact place YOU LEFT!
How about giving Christians and Jews the same respect you DEMAND from everyone?
How about allowing the Bible, and giving the Bible the exact same respect you CLAIM that the Koran deserves?
How about you stop slaying people for your false god?
How about you stop your participation in almost every single one of the 125 shooting conflicts in the world today?
really?
what do you think that verse is saying? its pretty plain and simple…
I’d like to see that one too!!
so post your proof, put up, or shut up!
really now? are you a greek scholar?? hmmm?? that was from the NIV, are you one of those ‘king james only’ nuts? and yes they are nuts.
talk about presumptuous…give me a break. this is as nutty as your whole thing about barak being the beast…laughable.
R4L:
No. I am not going to dig up an old post where you clearly indicate that atheist “aren’t afraid now, but they WILL be” or you elude to fire or burning.
You will just deny the very clear implication.
Good day.
oh and zero, its easy to see who is the real hate-filled bigot here!
thanks for showing your true evil nature…
obama can not be the anti-christ. If he were, his approval rating would be going UP not down.
Remember that guy is supposed to be almost universaly loved.
If obama ever was a muslim, and converted to christianity, then yes he would be apostate and under sentence of death under sharia law.
How is he “evil”? Just because he’s an atheist?
Trust me. You know nothing about the “true nature” of some athesists (usually liberal, whereas ZA is more conservative or liberatrian, from my point of view).
first its ‘allude’ anyway there is a hell to shun, and only a fool is not afraid of it. Jesus talked about hell more than He did heaven…bet you think He’s a ‘fundamentalist’
I never judged you, thats not my job.
sounds like you’re just feeling guilty…
Ooops…hit “send” too soon.
While we don’t see eye-to-eye on everything, ZA has been far and above more rational and mature than some of the childish atheists I’ve met out there.
So be careful.
personaly I think zeroangel and right4life are both going to hell.
pppfffhhhttt
maybe you should re-read his posts..
You guys are getting quite BORING.
Shut it , please.
be careful? of what?
Do I need to bring out the zombies???
Um, this:
sounds like judgment to me. And I’m not one who thinks the “judge not lest ye be judged” passage refers to talking about sin (a behavior), but the state of the soul.
Calling someone “evil” falls into the latter category.
EQ:
Or even perhaps more mature and rational than R4L’s outbursts?
If you can bring yourself to agree with me on that point, I’d say my work here is done and I don’t think I really need to bring up the atheism thing on this site again.
uh yeah right, bet I’m a bit older than you, and seen a few more things, and been a few more places…give me a break.
how many athests vs christians become zombies?
Of coming off as a jerk, quite frankly.
ZA doesn’t need me to defend him, but I don’t understand why you can’t let it rest that he’s an atheist and probably won’t change his mind on that.
I don’t agree with it, but I’ve run into atheists who are far ruder, more childish, and just frankly mean in not only their views on religion, but how they’d like to eradicate it from the public sphere.
ZA is not one of them. So back off.
sigh…do you think Hitler was evil? just curious..
So now age is the sole qualifier for experience?
I think not, if you’re definition of “evil” is ZA.
Are muslims who become zombies apostate?
well ‘honey’ I don’t give a damn what you think of me.
you are just clueless. are you really this stupid? pathetic.
Now that we’ve essentially won in Iraq, and the US/Jihadist conflict looks like it will never become a serious strategic threat (thanks, of course, to GW Bush, clumsy as his effort was), Obambi Boy can cruise in and apologize left and right about how “crude”, “dismissive”, and “dictatorial” the US is.
How easy it is to be magnanimous when your predecessor has done all the heavy lifting for you.
The Apologist-In-Chief is operating in a delushional fantasy-land of “we know we can get you to love us”.
And the media will permit it, at least until the next 9/11 occurs.
Then it’s back to the woodshed for Opie.
Yeah. Let’s play that card.
You’re starting to sound like a liberal here.
Hitler and ZA aren’t even in the same universe, so I’m not going to dignify that stupid question with an answer.
Ah. Now I’m stupid.
you’re sounding like an idiot.
it makes a point, that you refuse to see.
you’re becoming my definition of dense…
Hitler created zombies.
I’ll be back when the pointless bickering is over.
there is a saying that the first person to bring Hitler into an argument online loses. Done.
and if I don’t, then what?? hmmm??
please your childish little rants and threats are laughable.
do you think he was the anti-christ too??
Yeah. Silly, stupid me for “refusing” to see how a man who helped orchestrate the deaths of millions of people isn’t in the same realm as a single, solitary poster on Michelle Malkin’s blog.
Silly you for not seeing how that question smacks of desperation.
post 200, wahooo