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1. #674227
   On April 11th, 2009 at 10:30 am, bansharia said:

   bow to a deathcult king and reep your rewards. great job obambi

2. #674229
   On April 11th, 2009 at 10:36 am, sbw999 said:

   Let Italy handle it…yeah right.

3. #674231
   On April 11th, 2009 at 10:37 am, ajmontana said:

   Hey! That’s the same kind of boat as Odopeys tub toy!

   Arrgh!

4. #674233
   On April 11th, 2009 at 10:38 am, 24Klady said:

   Why the heck not take another ship/tug, regardless of who owns it or where it’s sailing or whose crew is aboard. With The One giving mock seder dinners and hamming it up for the news media from the White House, what have they to worry about? They’ve seen that 4 terrorists can hold a ship’s captain for ransom and a slew of U.S. Naval ships at bey.

5. #674236
   On April 11th, 2009 at 10:39 am, b-cat said:

   On April 11th, 2009 at 10:37 am, ajmontana said:
   Hey! That’s the same kind of boat as Odopeys tub toy!

   Has USA emblazoned on the hull, red star on the funnel. Yep, it’s his.

6. #674237
   On April 11th, 2009 at 10:40 am, Ragspierre said:

   OK, I know there is danger in arm-chair quarter-backing, but…just damn…

   Admiral Rags would have a few SEALs in the water near the lifeboat in the “other” piracy incident. The lifeboat would develop…suddenly and violently…a hull integrity problem, on the end the pirates occupy (which would not be too hard to know, given IR imaging).

   Put them in the water, and see how much starch they exhibit.

7. #674239
   On April 11th, 2009 at 10:42 am, deadeye said:

   I think if I was in charge of the military operation, I would shoot to disable rudder and propellers so they couldn’t go anywhere. Then send Navy Seals to board them and throw them all overboard. But that’s just me.

8. #674241
   On April 11th, 2009 at 10:43 am, deadeye said:

   That’s if Obama has time after his 800 mile pizzas.

9. #674242
   On April 11th, 2009 at 10:44 am, b-cat said:

   On April 11th, 2009 at 10:40 am, Ragspierre said:

   I agree. If I were calling the shots (or some other posters here), this story would have gotten ugly real fast, then been over suddenly with a happy ending for the USA.

   Pirates relegated to Disneyland and B movies.

10. #674246
    On April 11th, 2009 at 10:47 am, Ragspierre said:

    This is a funny time…

    Up until recently, pirates caught in piracy were summarily executed. No need for a trial or due process. Swing from the yards…or the radar mast…whatever.

    It is the same way we should be treating terrorists.

    There are not two…and only two…possible status for people who do bad things (soldier or criminal). That is a false choice, and I can’t figure out when it was imposed. It’s never been true before in history.

11. #674249
    On April 11th, 2009 at 10:48 am, DesertLover said:

    Yep … no Mayaguez reaction from this oval office will ever be forthcoming no matter the situation …

12. #674255
    On April 11th, 2009 at 10:50 am, ajmontana said:

    All Odopey has to do is tell the Sec. Nav. he wants this over in 5 hours. and Bam Wow! it’s done.

13. #674258
    On April 11th, 2009 at 10:52 am, tarpon said:

    Bow to the king, meanwhile the pirates bow the king.

14. #674259
    On April 11th, 2009 at 10:54 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Piracy must be stopped that is to be sure-I would just as soon it be us WITHOUT NATO or UN help–maybe India-they show some stones. But Theodore Tugboat must be saved! That is my grandson’s favorite-right after SpongBobSquarePants.

    Millions for Theodore Tugboat-not one penny for Odopeys tub toy!
    Commodore Stephen Decatur: you are needed.

15. #674260
    On April 11th, 2009 at 10:55 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Looks like air strikes in Somalia are increasingly likely. Some of the Navy assets heading out there are medical facilities.

    Defense Department officials are also reportedly dismayed by the delays and intransigence of the Obama administration.

    Nothing is more provocative than weakness. Also known as ‘kumbaya”. I expect the pirates, sorry, the undocumented crew members, to keep upping the ante so long as we twiddle our thumbs.

    For instance, why didn’t we blow up that boat together with the pirates when the captain jumped into the water? In a domestic hostage situation, a SWAT team would have ready to move in. As with the economy, is anyone in charge of this?

16. #674261
    On April 11th, 2009 at 10:57 am, Ragspierre said:

    And here’s another thing…

    Why is there a vessel afloat along the Somali coast?

    I know it would be a (another) terrible hardship on those people if they could not fish, but they have been supporting this nonsense. You can’t do that for free.

    No vessel capable of getting past five miles off-shore should be left intact after Spooky finished its job, under Adm. Rags…

17. #674262
    On April 11th, 2009 at 10:57 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Follow up comment: whatever happened to the Obama who claimed he could do more than one thing at a time? Learning tough lessons of multi-tasking on the job are we? (Cue weepy Hillary: “It’s hard!”

18. #674263
    On April 11th, 2009 at 10:59 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    I say lets bring a submarine underneath the lifeboat, raise it all out of the water. Then we can strap the lifeboat to the submarine and then let submarines do what submarines do.

    Drowning people have this funny little quirk that they tend to forget what they are doing in order to breathe air.

    Let the SEALS, who could be just under the water, bring the captain back to the surface.

    —-

    Or a couple of well placed cutting charges could be placed under the boat. Once they are set off, everyone would drop into the ocean. Again…. only one person ever has to surface. And no one has to know.

    Any way it goes, you want the pirates under water where their weapons are useless.

19. #674264
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:00 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Another Gun-Free Zone: In Houston’s maritime union halls, sailors and engineers were talking guns Thursday. They discussed the pirates’ guns. Their own lack of guns. And the possibility that the hijacking of a U.S.-flagged container ship off Somalia on Wednesday will force the Navy to bring more firepower to the high seas. “Step it up, because the pirates are,” said Spencer Reed, 52, a marine engineer. “Those guys mean business.” “Pirates have been around a long, long time, but now it’s gotten more sophisticated,” said another engineer, Phillip Sistrunk, 60, of Pasadena. “It was a little bit of a shocker because normally they don’t mess with U.S. vessels.” Both men advocate allowing commercial seamen to use firearms to defend themselves from pirates. Most commercial ships sail the world unarmed, relying on “evasive maneuvers” and blasts from fire hoses to repel would-be hijackers, according to industry analysts…
    
    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6367295.html

    That was then, this is now–Arm OUR ships. When seconds count the Navy is only hours away–it IS a big ocean Mr. President.
    Commodore Stephen Decatur: you are needed.

20. #674266
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:02 am, b-cat said:

    The Carter II administration is off to a predictable start.

21. #674267
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:04 am, Ragspierre said:

    Any way it goes, you want the pirates under water where their weapons are useless.

    Actually, Squirrel, firearms fire underwater, and an AK-47 would be pretty deadly underwater…maybe on both ends, but, hey…

    Other than that, I like both your ideas.

    It appears that somebody in the Navy is using some brains, and they are denying the “pirate aid society” access to the scene…

22. #674268
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:08 am, Ragspierre said:

    Arm OUR ships. When seconds count the Navy is only hours away–it IS a big ocean Mr. President.

    Correct. And it wouldn’t take much. There are some nifty grenade launchers on the market that fire proximity-fused rounds. Just what the doctor ordered.

    Nice, high rate of fire, too…

23. #674270
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:11 am, b-cat said:

    There are few pirate problems that can’t be solved by Ma Deuce.

24. #674272
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:15 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    The object of getting an enemy underwater is that adrenaline takes over. When one goes underwater unexpectedly, the heart rate immediately skyrockets. The faster the heartrate, the sooner one has to breathe. So unless you are trained for it, you are going to release your weapon or at the minimum you will take you finger off the trigger.

    Aiming is useless without a facemask and bullets dont travel very far. Any weight is a liability in the water.

    Learning to drown takes a lot of time and practice, and few can do it, but it can be done.

    Now if the pirates had grenades or concussions devices then all bets are off.

25. #674276
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:19 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    They are getting away with this because we’re allowing them to. Knowing we won’t really do anything (like shoot to kill), they’re getting more brazen. And Obama is a joke as he refuses to confront anything that may ruin his “popularity”.

26. #674277
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:20 am, Ragspierre said:

    But, if you put them in the water with a nice, carefully placed and calibrated charge…say in the area of the engine…

    then they begin to have very few options…

    you can just let them bob around in the nice, shark-infested ocean for an hour or so…

    and then ask if anyone would like to come aboard the pretty un-manned inflatable…

    naked, of course.

    Or you just pot them in the water…

27. #674278
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:20 am, PJ said:

    With the guns of the US Navy silenced by “The One”, and with their role simply to look on, and with more Somali ship-hijackers on their way to assist their thug buddies, perhaps it is time to admit that our military has been defanged and is now a toothless tiger whose most violent response will be to gum our enemies.
    When “The One” completes ‘negotiations’ and hands these thugs millions of dollars, a new ship, an apology, and bows to them (will it be once or four times?) it will be time to dismantle our military. The toothless tiger is just wasting money that “The One” can put to faaaaaaaaaaaar better use. Just think of all the money this Idiot In Chief will have saved to spend on ACORN and his brownshirt civilian army.

28. #674279
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:20 am, irving said:

    So much deja vu! Didn’t Jimmy Carter have a hostage crisis he was too weak to resolve too?

29. #674282
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:26 am, b-cat said:

    Show of hands. Who here expected strength and valor from a Democrat White House?

30. #674283
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:28 am, DagneyT said:

    Comments on the situation from the White House……….crickets chirping sound here…………..

31. #674284
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:28 am, thelcabroadside said:

    Pirates are above his pay grade:

    http://thelcabroadside.wordpress.com/

32. #674285
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:29 am, cheapseat said:

    perhaps our merchant marine ships need both weapons and vigilance. beats me how a fishing ship full of pirates can board a freighter at sea. anyone heard of all hands on deck to repel boarders.

33. #674287
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:32 am, b-cat said:

    beats me how a fishing ship full of pirates can board a freighter at sea. anyone heard of all hands on deck to repel boarders.

    When all the pirates have fully automatic AK-47s and the merchant sailors are armed with pocket knives…

34. #674288
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:34 am, Ragspierre said:

    “We hope that before launching any tactical action against the pirates, the welfare of every hostage is guaranteed and ensured,” said [Philippine] Vice President Noli de Castro. “Moreover, any military action is best done in consultation with the United Nations to gain the support and cooperation of other countries.”

    Now, that is an absolute recipe for getting lots of merchant-marine people killed…

35. #674289
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:35 am, tonyr951 said:

    Where is the outrage from Amnesty International against the pirates for violating the captive’s human rights?

36. #674290
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:36 am, vickisoup said:

    Time for the military to ignore their Weenie in Chief and blow these mo-fo’s out of the water. With guns; not water pistols.

37. #674293
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:40 am, DesertLover said:

    SEALS in the middle of the night when there is most likely only part of the pirates “on guard” … start by putting short fused concussion grenades into the enclosed lifeboat … this would enable a rapid post explosion boarding to take the pirates down and save the Captain with a high probability of success and no loss of life …

    (other than what might happen from covering the pirates in blood and throwing them overboard about another 200 miles from shore … but no one will be there to know how that turns out so who cares … )

38. #674294
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:40 am, DesertLover said:

    oops … wrong pirate thread … …

39. #674297
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:45 am, Bachbone said:

    Now we know exactly who was listening to Hillary cackling and how seriously her words were taken. Every day we have more evidence that Obama’s administration is in over its head and is either too dimwitted to recognize it or too arrogant to admit it..

40. #674298
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:45 am, Dan Lee said:

    This is so easy to prevent it’s absolutely ludicrous. Every sailor required to have a 9mm or better sidearm. Captain & 1st mate have access to a gun locker with AR-15s Flash Grenades & Smoke grenades.. Problem solved without any significant threat to safety or cumbersome equipment for the crew..

    But of course, that’s not the politically correct Obamanboy way to handle Terro… I mean “man cause disasters”..

41. #674304
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:51 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    However we get out of this, it is very important that the next time pirates see the American flag, they remember how badly this ended for the pirates. There is a reason why there are more Philippinos held hostage than anyone else, they are easy targets with no consequences for seizing.

    This is rapidly becoming an albatross for Obama. If is doesn’t end soon with American strength preserved, he will be crippled in the eyes of our allies and enemies alike.

    Time is running out. Do something already.

42. #674305
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:55 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:29 am, cheapseat said:

    perhaps our merchant marine ships need both weapons and vigilance. beats me how a fishing ship full of pirates can board a freighter at sea. anyone heard of all hands on deck to repel boarders.

    The biggie is the Rocket Power Grenades
    # Maximum Effective Range – 985 feet (300 meters)
    # Penetration – 15.8 inches (400 mm) of rolled homogenous armor

    There are no fire hoses that can be effective at that range-no ship can maneuver out of their line of fire.

    M2 .50 Caliber [12.7mm] Machine Gun
    “Ma Duce“
    Bore diameter: .50 inches (12.7mm)
    Maximum effective range: 2000 meters with tripod mount
    Maximum range: 4.22 miles (6.8 kilometers)
    Maximum effective range: is 1,830 meters
    Cyclic rate of fire: 550 rounds per minute

    I doubt the muslim pirates would do well against such armaments-providing we have the will.

43. #674306
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:55 am, Jeff2161 said:

    Here’s an idea…Give them the $2 million ransom, all in pennies !
    BTW that’s 551 tons worth. Should sink that lifeboat quick, eh ?

44. #674307
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:56 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Correction:

    This is rapidly becoming an albatross for Obama. If this doesn’t end soon with American strength preserved, he will be crippled castrated in the eyes of our allies and enemies alike.

    That’s better. He can then join that other eunuch ex-president now building houses that fall apart after ten years.

45. #674308
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:57 am, vickisoup said:

    Time is running out. Do something already.

    John Kerry (who served in Vietnam) IS doing something! He’s called for “pirate hearings”! That’ll teach ‘em. “Avast, ye scurvies! If you don’t stop taking our ships, we’re gonna make you walk the plank hold hearings on your sorry a$$e$!”

46. #674309
    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:57 am, txvet2 said:

    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:20 am, irving said:

    So much deja vu! Didn’t Jimmy Carter have a hostage crisis he was too weak to resolve too?

    Well, yeah, but in Carter’s defense, he was dealing with a real country with an actual government and a reasonably credible military force, far from the nearest US military base – not a rowboat in the middle of the ocean surrounded by US military assets. This guy is actually making Carter look fairly competent.

47. #674311
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:00 pm, Jeff2161 said:

    Pssttt…Obummer…Maybe the French will bail your sorry hind-quarters out of this.

48. #674310
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:00 pm, DesertLover said:

    Each day this goes unresolved without a USA win the loss of world respect BO likes to blast Bush about diminishes at an exponential rate …

49. #674312
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:00 pm, ajmontana said:

    lol @ jeff. I like it!

50. #674314
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:01 pm, Jeff2161 said:

    Oh, and…Why aren’t we jamming their satellite phone ? I’m assuming the Navy does have the technology for that.

51. #674315
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:03 pm, txvet2 said:

    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:51 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    And there is the concommitant danger that the only way he’ll be able to regain any credibility is to massively over-react the next time something happens. He’s put himself in a no-win situation already by appearing weak and indecisive, no matter how he reacts from now on out. Not that conservatives weren’t warning everybody about this for the last couple of years.

52. #674316
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:03 pm, Jeff2161 said:

    ajmontana said:

    That way they can fill their pockets and swim to shore…heh…heh…

53. #674317
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:03 pm, Ragspierre said:

    There are no fire hoses that can be effective at that range-no ship can maneuver out of their line of fire.

    All true. Any merchantman takes miles to maneuver. They can’t run from high-powered inflatables or other small craft.

    I still prefer the modern grenade launcher, but any .50 (or 12mm) MG is a good way to go, too…

    Nice stand-off distance. You can add to that with a moderately priced set of optics…

54. #674318
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:03 pm, ajmontana said:

    This entire Pirate business is ridicules, geez, we could give Chap and his buds a case of Beer and some AK’s and they could get the dang job done.

55. #674320
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:05 pm, ajmontana said:

    oh wait, nevermind, they would prolly try and attack our Navy.

56. #674321
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:06 pm, Jeff2161 said:

    I’m quite sure, he would appreciate a good Burgundy instead…
    

57. #674324
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:09 pm, gco said:

    This is rapidly becoming an albatross for Obama. If is doesn’t end soon with American strength preserved, he will be crippled in the eyes of our allies and enemies alike.

    He has always been crippled in their eyes, that’s why they all (”allies” and enemies) have been so enthusiastic about him since last year. He will not defend and protect Americans and American interests, as the world can now observe, and since he’s only three months in, there’s a lot of time yet for them to act to cripple the U.S.

58. #674325
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:09 pm, pressto said:

    Okay I hate the take on this story:

    U.S.-owned and Italian-flagged tugboat

    This is an ITALIAN tugboat and it does not matter who owns it, what matters is what country it is flagged with. Because they are flagged with Italy I don’t consider them a US ship, but more importantly neither does the law.

59. #674327
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Because they are flagged with Italy I don’t consider them a US ship, but more importantly neither does the law.

    And that matters how…???

60. #674328
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:13 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:01 pm, Jeff2161 said:

    Oh, and…Why aren’t we jamming their satellite phone ? I’m assuming the Navy does have the technology for that.

    Jam their satellite phone? Wouldn’t that be provocative? Where would you jam it
    Let us not offend the Religion of Pirates.

    Hopefully with the rag head support coming out we can get all of them and jam their satellite phones where ever.

    (With Michelle off can I say rag head?)

61. #674330
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:16 pm, DesertLover said:

    AZ N …

    I agree … let every pirate in Somalia come to their aid … then out flank them and block them from returning to land … tkae them all out now …

62. #674331
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:18 pm, Jeff2161 said:

    I guess I was hoping the FBI doesn’t let hostage-takers call their friends to drop by while “negotiating”

63. #674332
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:18 pm, Socky said:

    Pirates are just the community organizers of the high seas. They shake down big corporations for money that they distribute among their networks of thugs and drug abusers. No wonder Chairman Zero is sympathetic.

64. #674333
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:19 pm, DesertLover said:

    tkae = take …. GRRRR …

65. #674334
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:19 pm, ajmontana said:

    Arizona, I believe the PC police prefer “Bathroom accessory drying apparatus heads”

66. #674335
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:21 pm, Jeff2161 said:

    No wonder Chairman Zero is pathetic.

    Fixed it…

67. #674337
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:24 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    ajmontana
    Arizona, I believe the PC police prefer “Bathroom accessory drying apparatus heads”

    If we can get any more satellite phones the PC Police need some jamming

68. #674338
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:25 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Because they are flagged with Italy I don’t consider them a US ship, but more importantly neither does the law.

    And that matters how…???

    It’s all about sovereignty. An attack on a ship is an act of war on the country whose flag the ship is flying. This is primarily an Italian problem.

69. #674339
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:26 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    George Bush is out of office, and still is causing all of this trouble!

70. #674340
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, Ragspierre said:

    It’s all about sovereignty. An attack on a ship is an act of war on the country whose flag the ship is flying. This is primarily an Italian problem.

    Well,…a nicely nuanced legal argument, but…

    any act of piracy…

    anywhere…

    is something that the U.S. should never tolerate.

    We don’t need a “legal” mandate. Our interests…and those of every seafaring nation…are to sweep the seas of these vermin.

71. #674342
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:30 pm, txvet2 said:

    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:25 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    If they try to use the tugboat to retrieve the lifeboat, it becomes our problem in a hurry.

72. #674343
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:30 pm, Storm Chaser said:

    “I used to rule the world
    Seas would rise when I gave the word…
    I used to roll the dice
    Feel the fear in my enemies’ eyes
    One minute I held the key
    Next the walls were closed on me
    And I discovered my castle stand
    was built on pillars of sand…
    People couldn’t believe what I’d become
    But that was when I ruled the world.”

    Cold Play

    This may be Obama’s Iranian hostage crisis.

73. #674344
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:30 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Addendum to my comment #69 to raggy:

    Who owns the ship is a business consideration. That they decided to fly under a particular country’s flag signifies that they are sailing under that country’s protection. Good thing they didn’t decide to fly under the ACORN flag.

74. #674346
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:38 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:30 pm, txvet2 said:

    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:25 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    If they try to use the tugboat to retrieve the lifeboat, it becomes our problem in a hurry.

    That is why all of those “rescue” missions have to be kept separate and why Obama’s equivocation is merely escalating the crisis. He is allowing the pirates to turn the entire Indian Ocean into an exclusively American problem.

    Prior to taking the Maersk, piracy had been a business problem for various other countries’ shippers. Now it is an American international political crisis that is rapidly wrapping every imaginable issue into the negotiations.

    Apocaplypse now already (so to speak)!

75. #674350
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:44 pm, ThunderHawkk said:

    This is what pacifism gets you. Jimmy Carter’s pathetic world-view made the world a more dangerous place.

    Now, his replacement x2, The OneIdiot, is making the world a more dangerous place again.

    Thanks a lot, you worthless Community-Agitator Marxist Kenyan….

76. #674351
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:45 pm, ajmontana said:

    Odopeys battle position

77. #674352
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:45 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    What’s the difference between a pool table and Obama?

    oh come on… you know the answer.

78. #674353
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:48 pm, Tazed and Confused said:

    What’s the difference between a pool table and Obama?

    One has “felt needs”?

79. #674354
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:48 pm, Flyoverman said:

    As soon as Eric Holder finds someone who can transalate Miranda Rights into Somali, we will get tough with the pirates.

80. #674355
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:53 pm, ajmontana said:

    One has a Cue the other is Cueless. lol…

81. #674357
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:56 pm, Tazed and Confused said:

    Obie can’t be bothered… he and ‘chelle are busy shopping for a mosque to attend this Easter Sunday.

    Give Hillary a call (Bill is off with the ladies this weekend)…

82. #674359
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:58 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Gnat-straining over the registry and ownership of pirated vessels has all the virtue of having Texas DPS troopers worry about what license plate a stolen car bears.

    Any seafaring nation has all the mandate it needs to deal with piracy. So far, the French (!!!) and Chicoms have shown greater resolve than have we.

    That says a passel…

83. #674360
    On April 11th, 2009 at 12:59 pm, Tazed and Confused said:

    What’s the difference between a pool table and Obama?

    Err… one uses “spin” to achieve objectives… and the other uses “spin” to deceive objectives…

84. #674361
    On April 11th, 2009 at 1:00 pm, Ragspierre said:

    A pool table has balls.

85. #674363
    On April 11th, 2009 at 1:05 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    This is primarily an Italian problem.

    Primarily- ok but piracy is an attack on international shipping and must be stopped. There was a time the great maritime nations COULD AND WOULD act collectively or as opportunity would allow. But alas there are no great nations-maritime or other. We have the ships, we have the people but the spirit is weak.

    But I am sure we can get the UN to send a Letter of Concern and a recording of Miss Hillary’s cackle. Or she and Little Miss Muffet and sit on their Tuffet, what ever a tuffet is. As weak as Bush ll was American ships did not seem to be targeted when he was bombing Afghanistan.

    As with most feral creatures these pirates smell weakness.

86. #674365
    On April 11th, 2009 at 1:08 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On April 11th, 2009 at 1:00 pm, Ragspierre said:

    A pool table has balls.

    Ragspierre-papers please.
    

87. #674368
    On April 11th, 2009 at 1:13 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Arizona: true but it is important in this situation to not allow the rest of the world to once again hide behind our skirts. The French stepped up and took ownership of their problem and now, the French flag means something and is to be feared by pirates. It’s now up to the Italians to prove that their flag is to be feared too.

88. #674372
    On April 11th, 2009 at 1:22 pm, Dandapani said:

    Doesn’t ANY of these ships carry firearms? Sheesh.

89. #674374
    On April 11th, 2009 at 1:25 pm, npphotog said:

    President Obama is closely monitoring his teleprompters, but so far nothing. Be patient, after all the hijacking is done then he will deal with them collectively once and for all. As our esteem Hillary chucked, didn’t Morocco and the US finished dealing with pirates many years ago. haha, it’s done, now let move on and don’t distract from dealing with the global economy.

90. #674377
    On April 11th, 2009 at 1:28 pm, DesertLover said:

    OK … we are all officially toast …

    It just came across Fox News that the FBI office in NYC is getting ready to press charges against the pirates …

    NOT KIDDING FOLKS …

    Bend Over and KYAGB …

    Gotta make sure I go buy more ammo today … can’t wait for the major gun show here in 2 weeks … need more firepower …

91. #674378
    On April 11th, 2009 at 1:31 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Ragspierre-papers please.

    Pap-ers…?

    PAP-ers…????

    We dun ned no stinkin’ pap-ers…!!!

92. #674381
    On April 11th, 2009 at 1:32 pm, Romeo13 said:

    On April 11th, 2009 at 11:40 am, DesertLover said:

    No need for flash bangs… no need to Hull the lifeboat…

    Rebreathers… swim up to both hatches… they’ll probably be open for ventilation at night…

    Pop in about 4 Tear Gas canisters… I checked, no reports at all of the Pirates carrying Gas Masks… and the space in enclosed…

    Pirates WILL abandon… then ya grab em…

93. #674382
    On April 11th, 2009 at 1:34 pm, DesertLover said:

    Romer13 …

    I considered the tear gas approach but decided against it because it will not necessarily immobilize the pirates to the point that they won’t react by killing the hostage before they could be boarded and captured … maybe it needs to be both at once …

94. #674383
    On April 11th, 2009 at 1:35 pm, DesertLover said:

    make that Romeo13

95. #674385
    On April 11th, 2009 at 1:43 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Geez, guys…

    We have strobe lights that would immobilize the people in the life boat.

    We don’t lack options or hardware or operators…

    We lack leadership.

96. #674387
    On April 11th, 2009 at 1:58 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    It’s now up to the Italians to prove that their flag is to be feared too.

    After 15 centuries I guess you are right.

    Would strobe lights work on the White House, Senate and House of Cartoon Characters?