American Legion responds to DHS

By Michelle Malkin  •  April 14, 2009 01:04 PM

Read it.

Also note that the unnamed “prominent civil rights organization” that the DHS hit job cites to stoke anti-military paranoia is the left-wing Southern Poverty Law Center — which designated the American Legion a “hate group” for its pro-enforcement stance on immigration law.

In the eyes of Obama’s DHS, we are all “haters” now.

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  1. #1
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm, tarpon said:

    Southern Poverty Law — Two guys and their dog in their garage … A hate group in their own right.

  2. #2
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pm, babiesgrandma said:

    I am proud to be a card-carrying member of the American Legion – “Ich ben ein ‘Hater’ ” … I guess.

  3. #3
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:13 pm, flenser said:

    Morris Dees is another Al Sharpton. But he seems to make better money from spreading his hate.

  4. #4
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:16 pm, CyberCipher said:

    DHS project much?

    My collie says:

    I heard that the DHS is issuing bumper stickers that say:
    “Got Projection?”

  5. #5
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:20 pm, letget said:

    Thank you Mr. Rehbein for the letter to janet. I hope, but doubt, you will hear from her.
    L

  6. #6
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:28 pm, cicerokid said:

    obummer canvassed at the American Legion here in Northern Indiana. I’m pretty sure it was North Liberty. Fall in line or under the bus you go!

  7. #7
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm, DesertLover said:

    Welcome to the BS we were putting up with in AZ when she was our sham of a governor … perfect fit for BO and the other open borders zealots in his administration …

    Not in American Legion … but am a lifetime member of both DAV (Disabled American Veterans) and VFW (Veterans of Foreign Wars) … however my late father was a lifetime Legion member so am quite familiar with the efforts they make on behalf of American Veterans everywhere …

  8. #8
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm, Craig said:

    I think it is important for all of us to remember that Americans are not the enemy.

    Sadly AL, but to liberals….that is indeed the case. Note the litany of apologies coming from Obambi on his recent trip.

  9. #9
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Southern Poverty Law Center — which designated the American Legion a “hate group”

    Well of course they did. There is that “A” word in there. :roll:

  10. #10
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:39 pm, Paul Revere said:

    Hurry…change the name to “American Legion of Muslims”. Problem solved.

  11. #11
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:39 pm, Roman Con said:

    At this rate, BHO’s regime will use the NTSB to keep the Shriners from driving those neat little cars in 4th of July parades…

    …that is, until DHS criminalizes the 4th of July.

  12. #12
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:40 pm, jim m said:

    The report states, without any statistical evidence, “The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.”

    –Hasn’t this site, Hot Air and the general newsmedia been regularly posting articles about the increased numbers of people buying guns since the election?

  13. #13
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:42 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Time to stop procrastinating and join. Lemme see… Boy Scouts of America- check. American Legion- check. Any other hate groups I can join?

  14. #14
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:44 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    –Hasn’t this site, Hot Air and the general newsmedia been regularly posting articles about the increased numbers of people buying guns since the election?

    You don’t see a difference between citizens exercising their 2nd Amendment rights and “…the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks”?
    Hmm.

  15. #15
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:48 pm, jim m said:

    …..could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.”

    No one can know why all of the people are buying guns, right?

  16. #16
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:48 pm, southsideironworks said:

    It appears to me that just about any club or organization that an adult white male may fall into this category.

    Whats next, taverns? Street corners? Private basements? Backyard Barbecues?

  17. #17
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm, southsideironworks said:

    It appears to me that just about any club or organization that an adult white male might take an interest in, may fall into this category…

    Some days I just cant type.

  18. #18
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:57 pm, cicerokid said:

    Jeff Foxworthy fan-club members beware! And bluegrass musicians.

  19. #19
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm, cpodug said:

    Backyard Barbecues?

    They can have my BBQ grill when they pry it from my cold, dead, fingers.

  20. #20
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm, J S Ragman said:

    In a related story, the J S Ragman Institute for Fairness in Public Policy issued a statement today designating the Southern Poverty Law Center a “stupid group”.

    So there.

  21. #21
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm, old trooper said:

    Interesting question Dexter. The answer can be easily found by a quick read of the Bill of Rights.

    The Obama Mob is the most anti-2nd Amendment crowd ever. Since the election, folks that never owned a firearm went out and bought them. There is an increase in concealed carry permit applications as well. Ammunition is flying off the shelves.

    Apparently the Obama Mob’s view of Your Constitutional Rights is in conflict with the Founding Father’s intent. Do you find that threatening? 48% of Americans might. Maybe more.

    Veterans that love their country may now be fearing their government due to DHS Profiling. Those that swore an oath to Defend it and did. Thats my 2 cents worth.

  22. #22
    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm, rplatt said:

    Napolitano and her goons are defaming our veterans and attempting to quell political dissent . . . don’t let her get away with it. She won’t challenge the invaders that enter our country illegally but she has no problem attacking loyal citizens and brave veterans. The Republic is in serious trouble.

  23. #23
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    No one can know why all of the people are buying guns baseball bats, right?

    OMG! There must be a surge of bat-wielding gangs on the way! It couldn’t have anything to do with baseball season coming, or people just liking baseball bats.

    Good friggin’ grief.

  24. #24
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm, flenser said:

    The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms … could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups

    Sounds like a good reason to not pass those new restricions on firearms. Of course, I’m under the old-fashioned mpression that the goverment exists to serve the people and not the other way round.

  25. #25
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:02 pm, flenser said:

    In a related story, the J S Ragman Institute for Fairness in Public Policy issued a statement today designating the Southern Poverty Law Center a “stupid group”.

    Change that to “evil hate group” and I’ll agree.

  26. #26
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm, flenser said:

    Time to stop procrastinating and join. Lemme see… Boy Scouts of America- check. American Legion- check. Any other hate groups I can join?

    NumbersUSA?

  27. #27
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:05 pm, YTZGal said:

    I agree that the DHS report is over the top and overly broad. DHS needs to retract/clarify this “analysis”.

    Good rebuttal on the part on the American Legion and far more polite than I would have drafted. The “veteran=psychotic killer” meme is getting really old. I never thought I would see the day when slurs against our veterans would be “acceptable”, let alone generated by our own government.

    That being said…..on the flip side of the coin, I enjoy keeping up with the latest conspiracy theories, much like many of my friends like to watch horror flicks.

    However, many of these theorists are really leaving the land of the sane. I spent far too much time today reading through the escalating hyperbole about a massive FEMA plot to round up and decapitate Christians. (I think I have summarized their position succinctly). Just google “FEMA Prisoner Trains” and you’ll see what I’m talking about. There were a few places that I wandered to this morning following the thread of a link that I wished I hadn’t now, but it’s too late….my browser feels so dirty now.

    There appears to be a closed loop and ever-escalating paranoia to these claims, and unlike the Area 51/Alien coverup conspiracies, these appear to be citing support for resistance to any type of disaster relief effort. What bothers me is that people can be driven to unbelievably irrational acts under the guise of defending their religious views. Religious extremism and fervor of any stripe is scary.

    DHS definitely needs to be called out for this egregarious error, but to be fair, they have to sift through and keep up with all manner of loons.

  28. #28
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:05 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Apparently the Obama Mob’s view of Your Constitutional Rights is in conflict with the Founding Father’s intent. Do you find that threatening?

    Absolutely, I do!
    If 2nd Amendment (enumerated!) rights were treated the same as abortion (emanated from penumbra) rights, if I wanted a firearm and couldn’t afford one, the government would give me one.

    The world is upside down.

  29. #29
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pm, denver republican said:

    This slander of our military is absolutely disgusting. If I didn’t know better, I would think that John Murtha wrote this “report”*. (On second thought, I don’t know better.)

    I long for the good ol’ days when dissent was patriotic. I’m sure you remember those days – they just ended on January 20.

    * I mean, have you read this thing? It reminds me of the kinds of geography reports we wrote in 2nd grade. “Peru is a country in South America. It exports many goods to other countries. We import many good from Peru. Rightwing extremists are everywhere.”

  30. #30
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pm, jim m said:

    http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090313_11_A1_ARuger442781.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-03-29-ammo-shortage_N.htm.

    See links above. I don’t find any stories about how the number of baseball bats sold recently has increased significantly, Dexter.

  31. #31
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, Surveyor said:

    No one can know why all of the people are buying guns, right?

    I’ll tell you why I am buying more guns and ammo.

    When the entitlement class doesn’t get their monthly income because the country has finally fallen off the edge of the cliff….I will be glad I am armed. I have section 8 housing right down the street…..as do most of you probably.

    It’s going to be fun (for me at least) to watch all the libs run scared in every city when their voter base comes for them.

  32. #32
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On April 14th, 2009 at 1:48 pm, jim m said:
    …..could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.”

    No one can know why all of the people are buying guns, right?

    …because you are not paying attention…

    Obama signed a national abortion bill which, essentially, limits if not removes the states rights to legislate abortion even on children. Those of us paying attention know he has set precedence. Next up, the second amendment. Which entity legislate gun control? The states. With a stroke of a pen, your messiah will strike down the states right to legislate gun control and cite his abortion bill as precedence. If that does not strike fear into you, nothing will. There are many of us that understand the implication and take Obama’s word, prior to being elected, that he will seize control of our rights (concerning gun ownership) which is the reason for the spike in gun/ammo sales.

    You just keep on thinking this means nothing. The rest of us are not buying guns to become terrorists or to participate in terrorist activities. We will defend our rights and we will go to war when the attack comes to our land again at the invite of the liberal leadership.

    Nice try though. Did you write the report? Only an idiot would defend it or try and make people out to be radical right wing terrorists.

  33. #33
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm, YTZGal said:

    Dexter #28 -
    Good point. A well armed citizenry is a civil one.
    The Swiss have no problem arming every household, and last I heard, things were still pretty quiet there.

  34. #34
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:11 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    I used to think well of the SPLC when they battled the Ku Klux Klan.

    Now that they have run out of real hate groups worth fighting, I guess they have to make them up.

    Like the NAACP and trade unions, maybe a good idea once, but have long since outlasted their usefulness.

  35. #35
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:12 pm, vsatt said:

    oooh backyard barbecues.. you know I heard they actually roast the flesh of poor defenseless animals at those things and then the barbarians EAT the meat! Sounds like something that needs investigating, who’s with me?

  36. #36
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:13 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pm, denver republican said:

    I long for the good ol’ days when dissent was patriotic. I’m sure you remember those days – they just ended on January 20.

    (for effect run fingernails across blackboard)

    Hillary Clinton said: “I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration, somehow you’re not patriotic, and we should stand up and say, “WE ARE AMERICANS AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DEBATE AND DISAGREE WITH ANY ADMINISTRATION!”

  37. #37
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:15 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    jim, jim, jim. My example apparently flew over your head. I meant to convey that you shouldn’t jump to conclusions based on a trend. The articles you posted all mention the fear of increased firearms regulation and bans, plus fear of increased crime. Did either mention increased membership in extremist groups? No.

    Citizens exercising their rights does not equate to violence.

  38. #38
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:16 pm, flmom said:

    Rogue Cheddar

    Yikes, you just set my teeth on edge.

  39. #39
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:17 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:16 pm, flmom said:
    Rogue Cheddar
    Yikes, you just set my teeth on edge.

    I aim to please. :lol:

  40. #40
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:20 pm, jim m said:

    “Obama signed a national abortion bill which, essentially, limits if not removes the states rights to legislate abortion even on children.’

    –Umm, On-My-Soapbox, a current version of that bill hasn’t even been presented in Congress, much less passed and signed.

    And, no, I didn’t write the report. But I do think many of you are exhibiting Obama Derangement Syndrome.

  41. #41
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:22 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Never thought I’d do this but tomorrow in St. Paul I’ll wear my VFW jacket with USMC emblem with my medals especially the PH and BS. Swore I’d not ever put them on again after my treatment when I came home. I see similarities in this , what with the DHS designation I honorably now carry. Let’s be seen and heard , folks. But with civility and honor. Liberals can’t stand that

  42. #42
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:23 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Good to know Jim M wouldn’t have rocked the boat when former socialist Benito Mussolini or national socialist Adolf Hitler came to power.

  43. #43
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:25 pm, Flyoverman said:

    The American Legion and the VFW….still serving. My compliments.

  44. #44
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    “Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people’s liberty teeth (and) keystone… the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable… more than 99% of them [guns] by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference. When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour.” George Washington (Address to 1st session of Congress)

    The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all
    attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy
    ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of
    treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It
    will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation,
    enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by
    violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of
    false and designing men. – Samuel Adams

  45. #45
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm, Roman Con said:

    The politics of manufactured fear. BHO doesn’t want to deal with militant Islam or Mexican drug lords because it’s not PC. So, instead of addressing clear and present dangers to the security and sovereignty of the United States, BHO tries to convince the public that there are monsters under our own beds.

    Give him time – he’ll be apologizing to Americans for…well…Americans.

    Utterly. Bloody. Hopeless.

  46. #46
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm, Paul said:

    Look on the bright side, this will give us something to protest after the Tea Parties is victorious by rolling back Obamachev’s tax and spend policies.

    It can’t be said often enough, imagine the outcry if W labeled Daily Kos, ACORN, etc., as left wing extremist groups.

    The left is just wiping its feet on the Constitution.

  47. #47
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:27 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Southern Poverty Law Center

    The American Legion? A hate group? lmao.

    Well, at least they also listed The Nation of Islam as a hate group.

    But that AL listing puts their objectivity in question.

  48. #48
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:27 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    jim m

    Beats exhibiting lgm syndrome.

    Keep your head in the sand. The rest of us know Obama’s plans with the second amendment and why gun/ammo sales are up.

    What will you say when they pass the (un)Fairness Doctrine? “Good!”

    You fear a conservative voice – just admit it and move along. None of us take you any more seriously then we do lgm and he, like you, are a putz.

  49. #49
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pm, jim m said:

    “You fear a conservative voice”

    Well, On-my-soap-box, considering 90% of you are quite conservative and are telling me to “move along” and considering that Ed Morrisey banned me for posts like these, I’d say that you it’s you who fear another voice.

  50. #50
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:36 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Jim M

    How many contrary posts can I get in at Daily Kos or Demonrat Underground before I get shown the door?

    Buttmunch.

  51. #51
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm, James Felix said:

    And, no, I didn’t write the report. But I do think many of you are exhibiting Obama Derangement Syndrome.

    And there it is, as predictable as sunrise and nearly as frequent: someone trying to define derangement down.

    The term Bush Derangement Syndrome was coined to describe people who actually acted in a deranged manner. In an ex post facto attempt to legitmize their lunacy the lefties come in here and call any disagreement with their Chosen One “derangment”. Then they look back on ’00 – ’08 as though there was nothing unusual or unseemly about their conduct.

    Well, it ain’t so. It’s not deranged to object to someone putting your unborn great grandchildren in debt. It’s not deranged to object to being called a terrorist just for disagreeing with the government. And there very much was a lot that was unusual, unseemly and truly deranged about how many people responded to Bush over the years.

  52. #52
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:39 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    I promise to never ask anyone to leave because of their opinion. Honest debate should be treasured, and should never devolve into name calling. Even if the opposition is a poohpooh head! I fear no voice except those in my head.

  53. #53
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:39 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Ed banned you? ROFL. Just shows Ed has taste. We just tire of your rhetoric. We like the likes of Chap. He has opposing views not talking points which we (and apparently Ed) tire of which is why we would love for you to move along.

  54. #54
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:42 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:39 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:
    I promise to never ask anyone to leave because of their opinion. Honest debate should be treasured, and should never devolve into name calling. Even if the opposition is a poohpooh head! I fear no voice except those in my head.

    If it makes you feel any better, we fear the voices in your head as well!!! ;)

  55. #55
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:44 pm, YTZGal said:

    Jim M,
    It’s good and necessary for people to push back against these types of slurs. It is also very alarming when you consider it comes hard on the heels of the recent Missouri “intel” report labeling those with Ron Paul bumper stickers eligible for “monitoring”. This is the same Missouri, home to Sen Caskill, which tried to intimidate and threaten anti-Obama commentators. You will recall that Gov Blunt issued a statement about the inappropriate use of law enforcement to try and silence critics through coercion and intimidation. Same same. I guess that’s the “Change”.

  56. #56
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:45 pm, jim m said:

    Ed M, I have no idea how Daily Kos works. I don’t post there. But I do remember reading many times how conservative websites were much better than Daily Kos because they didn’t ban people because of their views.

    And, on-my-soap-box, I’m trying to keep these short and simple. If you think they’re talking points, so be it.

  57. #57
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:50 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Short and simple is not the definition of a talking point any more then buying a gun makes one a terrorist.

  58. #58
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:52 pm, YTZGal said:

    I do have one point to add to this — while decrying the smearing of veterans in this report, we must be sure we don’t blanket smear DHS as well.

    Post 9-11, several agencies got folded into DHS, which is now an extremely dysfunctional agency.

    There are lots of really good folks who work at the new-and-improved DHS….many of whom are former military and lifelong public servants.

    I am more interested in when the report was produced, under who’s direction and who the authors were. I’d like those authors to be accountable and appear on major media to defend their “analysis”.

    Let’s not blanket smear DHS the way the report blanket smears veterans. Let’s out those responsible and keep them accountable.

  59. #59
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:52 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Jim is nowhere near as bad as some that post here (lgm, iloathemycountry, etc). He’s wrong, but not a flaming troll.

  60. #60
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:54 pm, YTZGal said:

    My link to Gateway’s Pundits article about Gov Blunt got dropped from the comment.

  61. #61
    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:58 pm, thetoysurgeon said:

    I tried to log on MM this morning and couldn’t. I had just been on to write my opinions. I had feared that Rahm had stepped in and shut her down… How will we know when it really happens?

  62. #62
    On April 14th, 2009 at 3:01 pm, letget said:

    MNUSMCDavid,
    Thank you for your service and be proud to wear the VFW jacket with your medals, you earned them. Hubby is very proud of his.
    L

  63. #63
    On April 14th, 2009 at 3:03 pm, walterc said:

    Surveyor said:

    No one can know why all of the people are buying guns, right?

    I’ll tell you why I am buying more guns and ammo.

    When the entitlement class doesn’t get their monthly income because the country has finally fallen off the edge of the cliff….I will be glad I am armed. I have section 8 housing right down the street…..as do most of you probably.

    It’s going to be fun (for me at least) to watch all the libs run scared in every city when their voter base comes for them.

    All I have to do is look back on New Orleans after Katrina. 2 days without power and the place collapsed into anarchy. Read stories about victims, and people that defended themselves (until the government confiscated the guns). Then read about the current administration thinking that we need MORE gun control at the federal level.

    Then read about the Chinese hacking into our power grid. Then read about the amount of our debt being held by the Chinese and how easy it would be for them to destroy our economy.

    Then buy more guns and ammo. We have the makings of a perfect storm.

    Am I the only one that has noticed a dramatic price increase on re-loading components? The other day I couldn’t even find any brass for my 7MM Mag. Granted I live in a small town, but still. . . .

  64. #64
    On April 14th, 2009 at 3:09 pm, GladzKravtz said:

    Just moved to teeninesy town just outside KCMO. Right smack dab in the middle of town is an American Legion Hall. Dear husband wants to check it out (they have a bar) and maybe join. We will for sure now! Oh, but don’t let Janet know….

  65. #65
    On April 14th, 2009 at 3:11 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Did the Knights of Columbus make the list? If so, I could be a three-fer!

  66. #66
    On April 14th, 2009 at 3:18 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Southern Poverty Law Center

    LOOK who they list as hate groups and the groups they link Christians with.

    I am sure jim m has no problem with this as well.

    A small sample:

    Daughters of Yahweh
    Christian Guard

    For Christian identy!

    Jewish Defense League

    General hate!

    Lumped together with:

    The KKK
    Independent Skins
    Nation of Islam
    New Black Panther Party

    Credibility? I think not.

  67. #67
    On April 14th, 2009 at 3:26 pm, jim m said:

    Then read about the Chinese hacking into our power grid. Then read about the amount of our debt being held by the Chinese and how easy it would be for them to destroy our economy.

    –Waltere, if the Chinese hold tons of our debt, that should make it less likely for them to destroy the US economy. If they wreck us, they lose their investment in our debt.

  68. #68
    On April 14th, 2009 at 3:37 pm, RedDog said:

    The American Legion is a hate group? What legit news org would even publish such a statement? These punk SPLC jokers need to be put to work cleaning the yards and laundry of the American Legion heros. I’m tired of all their ghetto street slang crap. Haters. Right. What the hell is that? Juvenile fools. This is not their country and never will be.

  69. #69
    On April 14th, 2009 at 3:48 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    In the eyes of Obama’s DHS, we are all “haters” now.

    Just an extension of Obama’s existing belief.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  70. #70
    On April 14th, 2009 at 3:50 pm, emjem24 said:

    Dexter Alarius said:
    Jim is nowhere near as bad as some that post here (lgm, iloathemycountry, etc). He’s wrong, but not a flaming troll.

    Uninformed is still uninformed and I don’t care who they are. The uninformed and clueless control this country. These folks don’t care how much of the Constitution they have to burn, how many rights can be given away, how much sovereignty they can sell, to do it.

    Being uninformed and clueless has led to the great divide between who actually serve this country (the military) and those who don’t (civil society). When you don’t know how the country was created and how many people died and sacrificed to make America a reality, too many people would rather believe a pretty voice rather than see the reality of our corrupt Washington government.

    When the country goes under (and it will with all this debt), there will be a stark difference between those who care about this country and those who only want to sell it out to secure their comfort and settle for the yoke of China.

  71. #71
    On April 14th, 2009 at 3:51 pm, Savage24 said:

    As a life member of the VFW, I’m ashamed that this organization has not taken the lead. I guess that once you get into the leadership, you get politically correct. Washington DC is the most corrupt place in the universe!

  72. #72
    On April 14th, 2009 at 3:59 pm, letget said:

    Savage24,
    I am with you. Hubby has a VFW meeting tonight and I asked him to see what he could do on this. Also, he is in the PGR and he will see if they can do something also.
    L

  73. #73
    On April 14th, 2009 at 4:17 pm, bayou22 said:

    Perhaps if we actually start behaving like they expect us to, then we’ll actually get a seat at the table. Seems like it works for pirates, Iran, N. Korea, the pro-choice crowd, gays and lesbians, or any other assorted special-interest group that clearly acts as ridiculously as expected.

  74. #74
    On April 14th, 2009 at 4:19 pm, in_awe said:

    Why just last September in Minneapolis wasn’t there a group of leftwing wackos buying bags of cement and dropping them off overpasses onto busloads of Republicans conventioneers? Hmm, maybe DHS should stake out Home Depot and Lowes to catch more of those leftwing extremists in the act of re-arming.

  75. #75
    On April 14th, 2009 at 4:19 pm, YTZGal said:

    This part of the report that MM posted is particularly troubling:

    those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely.

    Since when the hill is “rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority

    “anti-government”?

    It isn’t enough just to post on blogs and complain, we need answers from those responsible.

    Starting with Missouri “Threat Assessment” and now this DHS one, we deserves ANSWERS.

  76. #76
    On April 14th, 2009 at 4:31 pm, bayou22 said:

    SPLC is irrelevant and as a special-interest group, being irrelevant is a fate worse than death.

    However, the DHS report should be sent to all members of Congress to have them ask specifically what the intent of the report is, and what credible sources they have to support these nebulous claims.

  77. #77
    On April 14th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    No one can know why all of the people are buying guns, right?

    Let’s see, the administration basically wants to ban them….I dunno…why are they buying all those guns? I haven’t owned one in years but I have an M4 on order just to exercise my 2nd Amendment right. Maybe a Mossberg 500 wouldn’t hurt either. Hard to find these things – maybe people think Obama is lying when he says he believes in the 2nd Amendment. Oh I know, that’s some sort of syndrome….

    And I’m not a hater or viloent, I just don’t believe my rights are ever safe. (I know, I know Jefferson was paranoid too…)

  78. #78
    On April 14th, 2009 at 4:44 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I was reminded on another thread – remember Obama and his “clinging bitterly to their Bibles and their guns”? Take him at his word when he sees something he doesn’t like…

  79. #79
    On April 14th, 2009 at 4:48 pm, Papa Louie said:

    To continue to use McVeigh as an example of the stereotypical “disgruntled military veteran” is as unfair as using Osama bin Laden as the sole example of Islam.

    How long has it been since the Oklahoma bombing? Yet, they’re still using McVeigh as THE example of a stereotypical Rightwing Extremist.

    Now that the Obama administration has banned use of the word “terrorist”, they need a replacement term. “Disaster causing man” just doesn’t quite cut it. I think they’ve found a term they like better: “Rightwing Extremist”. It has a much more menacing sound to it, and they can demonize their critics at the same time.

    Profiling people with turbans is an absolute violation of civil rights, according to the Left. But, apparently, there’s nothing wrong with profiling Americans with anti-abortion, NRA, or Ron Paul bumper stickers. It just goes to show that you’re not a hatemonger if you hate the “right” people.

  80. #80
    On April 14th, 2009 at 4:53 pm, YTZGal said:

    Papa Louie-
    And self-confessed real bombers/extremists are given speaking tours and invited to the WH !!

  81. #81
    On April 14th, 2009 at 4:57 pm, norm1111 said:

    How long has it been since the Oklahoma bombing? Yet, they’re still using McVeigh as THE example of a stereotypical Rightwing Extremist.

    And that one doesn’t work any longer….McVeigh was never a “rightwing extremist”. This has long been known by those who simply need to follow his story…..McVeigh was an Islamofacist sympathizer and a real admirer of Saddam. All the writing he did in prison prior to being excecuted showed this…and the fact that he and, mostly Nichols managed to travel to Manila couple dozen times in the year up to 1995 while on food stamps. Not to mention the half dozen Iraqis McVeigh met with in Norman Ok…a few dozen times….

    http://www.jaynadavis.com/index.html

    Hey but who cares about truth in the 21st century…as long as we “rightwing extremists” are stopped and shutup…

  82. #82
    On April 14th, 2009 at 4:57 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    blockquote>On April 14th, 2009 at 3:26 pm, jim m said:
    –Waltere, if the Chinese hold tons of our debt, that should make it less likely for them to destroy the US economy. If they wreck us, they lose their investment in our debt.

    Are you 10 years old? China just requested that the world bank do away with the US dollar as THE standard. China is having a hard time collecting their debt. So, by your reasoning, banks should not foreclose on bad mortgages because they cannot collect 100% of the debt owed them? DUH

    On April 14th, 2009 at 2:52 pm, Dexter Alarius said:
    Jim is nowhere near as bad as some that post here (lgm, iloathemycountry, etc). He’s wrong, but not a flaming troll.

    Care to recant?

  83. #83
    On April 14th, 2009 at 5:00 pm, T-Bone said:

    I have the right to DISAGREE WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION OR ANY ADMINISTRATION!

    Hillary Clinton
    circa (before we was in charge again)

  84. #84
    On April 14th, 2009 at 5:01 pm, RogerCfromSD said:

    Liberals declared war on us DECADES AGO.

    They really do see us as the enemy, so we should not be surprised.

  85. #85
    On April 14th, 2009 at 5:06 pm, walterc said:

    jim m said:–Waltere, if the Chinese hold tons of our debt, that should make it less likely for them to destroy the US economy. If they wreck us, they lose their investment in our debt.

    That doesn’t mean they won’t do it anyway.

    Never underestimate your opponent. Particularly when to comes to communists intent on destroying capitalism.

  86. #86
    On April 14th, 2009 at 5:08 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    “Care to recant?”

    No, not really. He’s just plain wrong. Being wrong isn’t being a troll. He didn’t lob a grenade. I don’t see that he’s ever started a post with “You people…” or used the terms ‘Bush-hitler’ or whatever. As my WWII veteran B-25 crewman Uncle John used to say: I don’t agree with him, but I’ll defend to the death his right to express his opinion. I myself spent 22 years defending those rights. Civil debate is healthy.

  87. #87
    On April 14th, 2009 at 5:10 pm, jim m said:

    Are you 10 years old? China just requested that the world bank do away with the US dollar as THE standard. China is having a hard time collecting their debt. So, by your reasoning, banks should not foreclose on bad mortgages because they cannot collect 100% of the debt owed them? DUH

    –On-My-Soap-Box, I was talking about wrecking our economy, not changing out the US dollar. No one is saying that China doesn’t want to get paid by us on the debt. If China wants to get paid on the debt, it should do everything it can to make sure that the US economy works well.

  88. #88
    On April 14th, 2009 at 5:11 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    I’m a 20 year veteran that’s a member of the American Legion.

    I wonder if I get deported if they find out I’m a member of the NRA?

    If so, send me to Italy or Korea, I like those places.

  89. #89
    On April 14th, 2009 at 5:25 pm, sgcwi said:

    Gee I guess i have to give up my twic card(HHS),passport security card(HHS), api inspectors certs, 100 ton masters document,my concealed weapons permit,handgun permits cause it says if you are part of a extreme hate group than you give up those privilages. WOW, the things I’ve had to give up since giggles the clown and his sidekick muscles became president. There is a old saying that you don’t kick the lion in the cage, he might get out.

  90. #90
    On April 14th, 2009 at 5:25 pm, Surveyor said:

    IF China were to ever call us on our debts….we can give them what they bought. Once they see that what they bought is in the “community”…they will sell it back at a bargain rate.

    OR we can tell them…”hey, send over 1 million productive Chinese citizens and we will let them move right in to the houses you bought.”

    This way see…..we clean up the community and add a million productive citizens to the rolls….thus dispersing the non-productives around the country more and lessening their impact all around. :)

    just a thought

  91. #91
    On April 14th, 2009 at 5:26 pm, bear1909 said:

    If China wants to get paid on the debt, it should do everything it can to make sure that the US economy works well.

    Is there a China in Fairyland? Because that is the only place China gives a putrid fig about the US economy. Communist China is at war with the US, a war without guns. This is about toppling the US system of political life by infiltrating our society at every level and fueling the chaos that is engulfing us…beginning with the greed of our elected representatives in Washington DC (nuclear secrets and the Clintons for example).

    This is about hegemony without direct military conflict. Our economic model is collapsing. And once China converts its treasury notes to cash….and losing out on all those cush interest payments, they will start a stampede in the commodities market to trigger the hyperinflation in this country that will cause more starvation in the US that will rival “third world” rates.

    Not a shot fired. And we have a Moslem President speaking of “5 Economic Pillars” for the recovery of the USA.

    Lock and load. I sure hope all of you are prepared. Because “goodwill toward men” is a thing of the past as far as the nations of the world toward the USA is concerned.

    Thanks for the laughs, Jim.

    Bear1909

  92. #92
    On April 14th, 2009 at 5:30 pm, bear1909 said:

    Evidently lil bHo is beginning to think twice about Janet (Reno?) Neopolitan’s “report”: and i quote (From Atlas)

    “The White House has distanced itself from the analysis. When asked for comment on its contents, White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said, “The President is focused not on politics but rather taking the steps necessary to protect all Americans from the threat of violence and terrorism regardless of its origins. He also believes those who serve represent the best of this country, and he will continue to ensure that our veterans receive the respect and benefits they have earned.”

    the President is not only panty-waist…he wears Granny pannies.

    :lol:

    Bear1909 out

  93. #93
    On April 14th, 2009 at 5:31 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    If so, send me to Italy

    Well yeah!

  94. #94
    On April 14th, 2009 at 5:34 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    the President is not only panty-waist…he wears Granny pannies.

    Someone you can Depends on. Sorry, not original, but…

  95. #95
    On April 14th, 2009 at 5:42 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    He also believes those who serve represent the best of this country, and he will continue to ensure that our veterans receive the respect and benefits they have earned.

    Oh, NOW they deserve the benefits they (we) have earned. A couple weeks ago he wanted our private insurance to cover our combat related health problems. And some wonder why we take what he says with a ton of salt.

  96. #96
    On April 14th, 2009 at 6:12 pm, CrazyFool said:

    On April 14th, 2009 at 5:00 pm, T-Bone said:

    I have the right to DISAGREE WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION OR ANY ADMINISTRATION!

    Hillary Clinton
    circa (before we was in charge again)

    This only applies to liberals — Freedom of speech only applies to the left. Its a ‘free speech for me but not for thee’ type of deal.

  97. #97
    On April 14th, 2009 at 6:14 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    Now I have to go join the American Legion just to fill up my “indicators.”

    Hope is not a plan; not all change is good. WE are the civilian national security force. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST!!!!

    ECS

  98. #98
    On April 14th, 2009 at 7:43 pm, Dimsdale said:

    So what happens when they have to classify the bulk of the military as a radical hate group?

    From a proud hater, bitter clinger and infidel!

  99. #99
    On April 14th, 2009 at 8:12 pm, DannoJyd said:
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    On April 14th, 2009 at 8:14 pm, DannoJyd said:

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