Confirmed: The Obama DHS hit job on conservatives is real
Yesterday, Roger Hedgecock and the Liberty Papers posted an unclassified DHS Office of Intelligence and Analysis report titled:
Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.
The “report” (PDF file here) was one of the most embarrassingly shoddy pieces of propaganda I’d ever read out of DHS. I couldn’t believe it was real.
I spent the day chasing down DHS spokespeople, who have been tied up preparing for a very important homeland security event later today: The First Lady is coming to visit their Washington office. Priorities, you know.
Well, the press office got back to me and verified that the document is indeed for real.
They were very defensive — preemptively so — in asserting that it was not a politicized document and that DHS had done reports on “leftwing extremism” in the past. I have covered DHS for many years and am quite familiar with past assessments they and the FBI have done on animal rights terrorists and environmental terrorists. But those past reports have always been very specific in identifying the exact groups, causes, and targets of domestic terrorism, i.e., the ALF, ELF, and Stop Huntingdon wackos who have engaged in physical harassment, arson, vandalism, and worse against pharmaceutical companies, farms, labs, and university researchers.
By contrast, the piece of crap report issued on April 7 is a sweeping indictment of conservatives. And the intent is clear. As the two spokespeople I talked with on the phone today made clear: They both pinpointed the recent “economic downturn” and the “general state of the economy” for stoking “rightwing extremism.” One of the spokespeople said he was told that the report has been in the works for a year. My b.s. detector went off the chart, and yours will, too, if you read through the entire report — which asserts with no evidence that an unquantified “resurgence in rightwing extremist recruitment and radicalizations activity” is due to home foreclosures, job losses, and…the historical presidential election.
In Obama land, there are no coincidences. It is no coincidence that this report echoes Tea Party-bashing left-wing blogs (check this one out comparing the Tea Party movement to the Weather Underground!) and demonizes the very Americans who will be protesting in the thousands on Wednesday for the nationwide Tax Day Tea Party.
From the report, p.2:
Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.
From the report. p. 3:
(U//LES) Rightwing extremists are harnessing this historical election as a recruitment tool. Many rightwing extremists are antagonistic toward the new presidential administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, including immigration and citizenship, the expansion of social programs to minorities, and restrictions on firearms ownership and use. Rightwing extremists are increasingly galvanized by these concerns and leverage them as drivers for recruitment. From the 2008 election timeframe to the present, rightwing extremists have capitalized on related racial and political prejudices in expanded propaganda campaigns, thereby reaching out to a wider audience of potential sympathizers.
(U) Exploiting Economic Downturn
(U//FOUO) Rightwing extremist chatter on the Internet continues to focus on the economy, the perceived loss of U.S. jobs in the manufacturing and construction sectors, and home foreclosures. Anti-Semitic extremists attribute these losses to a deliberate conspiracy conducted by a cabal of Jewish “financial elites.” These “accusatory” tactics are employed to draw new recruits into rightwing extremist groups and further radicalize those already subscribing to extremist beliefs. DHS/I&A assesses this trend is likely to accelerate if the economy is perceived to worsen.
From the report, p. 5:
(U//FOUO) Over the past five years, various rightwing extremists, including militias and white supremacists, have adopted the immigration issue as a call to action, rallying point,
and recruiting tool. Debates over appropriate immigration levels and enforcement policy generally fall within the realm of protected political speech under the First Amendment, but in some cases, anti-immigration or strident pro-enforcement fervor has been directed against specific groups and has the potential to turn violent.
And echoing the anti-military bigotry last seen in that disgusting Penn State University training video, there’s this on p. 7:
(U) Disgruntled Military Veterans
(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists—including lone wolves or small terrorist cells—to carry out violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.
There’s no hackneyed left-wing stereotype of conservatives left behind in this DHS intelligence and analysis assessment. I asked both DHS spokespeople to tell me who, specifically, the report was accusing of “rightwing extremist chatter” and which “antigovernment” groups are being monitored as “extremists.” They say they’ll get back to me.
In the meantime, be aware of this from the report, p. 8:
(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A will be working with its state and local partners over the next several months to ascertain with greater regional specificity the rise in rightwing extremist activity in the United States, with a particular emphasis on the political, economic, and social factors that drive rightwing extremist radicalization.
Better make a few last-minute signs for the Tea Party. Obama’s DHS is watching:
Honk if you’re a radicalized rightwing extremist!
Guilty of rightwing extremist chatter
Anti-government, pro-freedom: Sue me
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Previous: Missouri retracts report linking militias, 3rd party candidates.
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Oh, I’m sure DHS will be issuing its report on self-proclaimed bank terrorists like Bruce Marks of NACA and criminal rackeeters harassing private citizens in their homes to “exploit the economic downturn” any day now.
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Update: John Hinderaker weighs in the report.
Also good reading in Jonah Goldberg’s thread here.
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I am at-once aghast, agape and angered.
Xler,
There is nothing wrong with trusting your gut and being scared, just don’t go fetal
If I may make 2 mission trip analogies:
1. If you are not able to do physical work you are still needed to cook,rally and do socalled “light” jobs.
2. Once you walk out the door, you are in the mission field ie: you don’t have to go anywhere “exotic” to be a missionary.
I watch our buddy Rahm on YouTube. I had to shower off the slime before I wrote you back. What I love is his continued reference to putting laws on the book. So what?
Not only will the law breakers ignore the law, I question any enforcement of the law by authorities. Look at how immigration laws are ignored! Bad legislation is bad enough. Now throw in the selective enforcement based on political considerations. Nightmare.
It’s good to have a “no fly” list, but a no fly list that’s choked with non-threats is worthless. It’s like your local sex offenders list. I know of a local man who was drunk and relieving himself on a dark country road. Because he “exposed himself” (to cows I guess) he was placed on a sex offenders list for 18 months. He became clutter for the real ones to go unnoticed.
Liberals are a monument to the belief in building the perfect mousetrap, no matter how convoluted.
Clinging to my Bible, my gun, and my wallet.
See y’all tomorrow at the protests.
But we were all just being paranoid freaks when we presciently declared that Obama and his love affair with everything Alinsky would do exactly this … in record time no doubt. Wow! Just wow.
English,
there was some loser here early on who tried to repeat the lie that this was started in Dubya admin,had the sense to slither on
I hate illegal immigration!
I love Mexican food!
I can’t figure out if I’m a lover ,or a hater. Oh well, just to be safe. “You’re a naughty boy! You’re a naughty boy! You’re a naughty boy! (gives self a spanking until all four cheeks are red with shame.)
AND Obama would never be serious about extending his term of President for life…ah huh…riiigggghhhtt
Walks…quacks…duck
RIBLE & ANGELINI: CORZINE ADMINISTRATION
HAS OUTLAWED SCHOOL BOARDS
FROM CUTTING TAXES
Law Makes It Illegal for School Boards to Lower Property Taxes
I’d say the Democrats are doing a pretty good job of inciting
right-wing radicalsprotesters…a law that PROHIBITS cutting taxes!!??!?!Fly,
you smell so yummy after that hazmat shower
As am sure you noticed rahm was using the no fly list as a useful tool as he felt it would sucker Americans and assorted GOP into saying yes yes lets do that, but golly he never mentioned the no fly list is for non Americans who have no legal right to own guns to begin with.
Yet another example, if another were needed, of the extreme projection that the adolescent, dangerous, statist, collectivist, opposite-worldview holders who have infiltrated the media, academia and government demonstrate virtually every time they open their mouth or write a word.
Am in the middle of “The Ominous Parallels” by Leonard Peikoff.
Written in 1982, but it could have been writen last week.
I strongly recommend it, for an explanation of why we are where we are today; and for a characterization of the evil domestic enemies that are ranged against us.
I’m looking for lgm or someone to defend this. Not trolls.
Interesting that they can’t. Nor can they accurately, beyond a shadow of a doubt (as required by law), prove that there have been acts of terrorism by right-wing extremists in the same vein as the eco-terrorists or left-wing vandals.
There is a line. The Obama administration is inching ever closer to crossing it. And they will never understand that.
enjoy the day gang
God Bless America
ops GB just reported over 2,000 tea parties
yeehaaaaa
Maybe the movie “Red Dawn” isn’t so fictional afterall. We will prevail in the end. At what cost is the only mystery.
lgm ain’t a troll?
hmmm enjoy your day
On a recent episode of Medium (excellent show and generally slightly conservative in its viewpoint), they centered a show on a Weather Underground-type clone who had done some bombing in the 70′s… and twice… TWICE… two separate characters in the show referred to him as a “right wing extremist”.
I didn’t get it then, and could only surmise that NBC made them do it. The character was so obviously written as a loony liberal Bill Ayers type that it was silly both times I heard them call him “right wing”. Nonsense.
Corzine has got to go. Have you looked into what Steve Lonegan is all about? He gets it. And the fact that Republicans are throwing their support behind Christie tells me all I need to know. Lonegan is the guy to support to oust Corzine.
I pooh poohed this report yesterday. However, having read it thoroughly, I am stating here my utter mistake, and realization that this is horrible that a Government agency , bound by the duty to protect us, instead frightens and makes false accusations about those of us who, interestingly enough, fit these broad brush characterizations. I stand corrected and am embarrassed at my previous stand.
I’d almost think Obama and company are hoping for some Tim McVeigh type nutter to bomb something so they can enact laws designed to limit permissible speech.
Anthony Kennedy is the only thing between a change in definition of the First Amendment from what it actually says, and what you think it says, and what the Obamanation wants it to say.
And he is not a 100% reliable vote.
Heaven help America if Kennedy or one of the Constitutionalist justices die or becomes disabled, and Obama gets a fifth Marxist rubber stamp on the court.
Then the Constitution in its entirety means what Obama wants it to mean, not what Jefferson and Company wanted it to mean.
#119 Ed
I hate to admit it but, I 110% AGREE!
The only purpose of governmental agencies (in this case, DHS) is to be used as tools against us.
What I want to know is what does France, Germany, and Spain, think about all of this. If we take their temperature first then we can better proceed with righteous logic and foresight….
Ha! Sometimes I just kill myself! Wheee!
I’m sorry, I just can’t keep a straight face today.
Obama’s Brownshirts will make everything better, especially if they are as well armed as the military.
What’s to complain about? You got to vote, even if the elections were stolen by illegals voting and cities having more voters than residents.
Shut up and pay your taxes. Those higher electric bills from cap and trade, ignore them. We said only the rich were going to pay higher taxes.
The deficit, ignore it too.
This time, it’ll be different.
I’m a conservative republican. Is that now the same as being a felon? Will I be denied employment, credit, and my basic civil rights because of my beliefs?
This is not the America I know.
I hate those showers, because I hate having to cut away my t-shirt before removing my M-40.
Oh, they put Americans on the no-fly list. Just ask Senator Kennedy. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17073-2004Aug19.html
That’s why Rahm is literally salivating in the vid.
Oh yes, Michelle. We knew it was coming, didn’t we? Good job.
I suppose I am now officially a member of a ‘conspiracy’. Good Heavens–I feel like, um, paying my taxes.
Unsurprising, but still unfreakinreal. So exercising the rights granted to us in the First Amendment to peaceably assemble now gets us marked if it involves “strident…fervor?” I haven’t yet read the report, but I will. I want to know how they define strident fervor, and what they find so dangerous about it. Strident fervor sounds like a negative redefinition of passion. If I’m nonviolently passionate about an issue, I shouldn’t have to look over my shoulder and wonder if I’m going to get thrown in the hoosegow or put on some watch list. It takes a lot of gall and irresponsibility to label such a broad spectrum of people as extremist based on assumptions without mentioning specific examples in the report. Our grievances that need redressing are now considered prejudiced and radical by the Government. They’ve fallen for the myth, for example, that conservatives (and many moderates) are against immigration. They always forget to add that all-important word. You know, the one that rhymes with “still eagle.” If they want to look into rightwing extremism, they’d better make sure they define it correctly.
It is always time to Love Your Country, however, now is the time to Fear Your Government. DHS has larger Fish to Fry and they have Failed to Sercure Borders and Enforce Existing Laws. Invading the Privacy of Law Abiding Citizens is not their intended purpose.
The Second Amendment was written Second for a Purpose. It secures All of the others
Why, they sure will MarkD! Obama is going to give us a report on his economic plan too. Shewwww! I feel better, he says though slight, things are starting to improve and because he says so, by golly…it’s so! I’m sure this has nothing to do with the fact that Tea Parties will begin in force tomorrow and that there is currently a surge in deliquent taxpayers.
The Declaration of Independence will soon be banned as “hate-speech” or subversive. Along with the Federalist papers, the Constitution and anything else that can be construed as not supporting the Marxist goals of the current regime.
Apparently expecting the government to fulfill its primary responsibility of protecting the country and its citizens makes us “extremists”.
The primary responsibility of the U.S. government is to protect the territorial integrity and people of this country. They have completely abdicated this responsibility. Both parties have been complicit in this. We are being told it is not possible to control our borders, enforce our laws, and thereby control our destiny as a nation. Hogwash. We are being sold out by corporations intent on importing workers for jobs that can’t be exported with the taxpayers paying the true costs, financial and human. If we act like sheep and don’t stop the inundation across our borders, we will lose our country without a bleat.
Dangerous, dangerous stuff. The full-on partisan politicization of government institutions to aggressively promote the secular-progressive statist agenda. The constitution was not geared to fight treason on such a massive scale. Clearly a pre-emptive propaganda strike in preparation for their spring offensive. Personalize, marginalize, demonize,…. all well understood Alinsky/Marxist tactics.
Most people will find their properties and liberty siezed long before it dawns on them that their country is being destroyed. Remember, the bourgeois middle class must be dismantled before the Left can achieve their dream of an eviscerated America. Frank, Pelosi et al have done their part in stealing untold trillions in middle-class savings, now it’s up to the Obama brownshirts to lock down dissent.
We are indeed in a war. Now, to fight or submit to tyranny…. choices choices.
Oh, Dear. So another Democrap administration full of liberals who vary in degree from hilariously liberal to radical leftists is now suddenly concerned at the “Homeland Security” level about “rightwing extremism”?
The only part of Obama that we had wrong was that we gave him far too much credit. Even I – who saw through this empty suit POS from day one – didn’t believe he was this bad.
Buck Ofama.
the liberal garbage is very concerned that not all Americans became sheep and voted for the scam to begin. liberals want to force all to become submissive, thankfully most would rather stand up and fight. bending over (white flag blowing in the wind) or standing up for what is right, which one shows courage??
The State of Illinois is trying very hard to deny me my FOID card. I am hiring a lawyer to defend my 2nd Amendment rights.
News Flash! Another state ask for sovereignty under the 10th amendment!
WAKE UP CALL: TEXAS GOV. BACK RESOLUTION AFFIRMING SOVEREIGNTY
Tue Apr 14 2009 08:44:54 ET
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashtx.htm
AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry joined state Rep. Brandon Creighton and sponsors of House Concurrent Resolution (HCR) 50 in support of states’ rights under the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
“I believe that our federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Gov. Perry said. “That is why I am here today to express my unwavering support for efforts all across our country to reaffirm the states’ rights affirmed by the Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I believe that returning to the letter and spirit of the U.S. Constitution and its essential 10th Amendment will free our state from undue regulations, and ultimately strengthen our Union.”
Perry continued: “Millions of Texans are tired of Washington, DC trying to come down here to tell us how to run Texas.”
[VIDEO]
A number of recent federal proposals are not within the scope of the federal government’s constitutionally designated powers and impede the states’ right to govern themselves. HCR 50 affirms that Texas claims sovereignty under the 10th Amendment over all powers not otherwise granted to the federal government.
It also designates that all compulsory federal legislation that requires states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties, or that requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding, be prohibited or repealed.
Developing…
lgm neglected to get his troll license renewed?
And just “WHERE” do they think this “radicalization” is coming from? Look at your boss, DHS idiots!
yeah, where ARE the usual leftie trolls today? Don’t tell me they’re actually reading the report??
Rightwing Extremism?
Taxed
Enough
Already?
And good for you you southsideironworks: although the goal is NO licences, registration, registries for gun owners, guns and ammunition. But one fight at a time.
Fight the good fight southsideironworks.
Can reeducation camps for conservatives (and anybody else who disagrees with the One) be far off?
Damn, I may owe Bill Grant an apology.
dhs isn’t this agency run by that intellectually challenged piece of refuse, napolitano?? the same creature who lamented illegal aliens being picked up by law enforcement agencies, now finds it easy to let a report like this out on US citizens. liberals are scared and are now attempting to come up with some piece of trash report, this truly shows they are responding from a position of Weakness!!
I haven’t read all the comments, so apologies if I’m repeating.
In the works for a year (a big priority of the Bush Administration, I’m sure), and yet they are primarily concerned with increased conservative activity since the 2008 election. My BS meter is pegged.
ArizonaNeanderthal said:
If these people are going to call me an extremist, it’s because the government made me this way.
I’ve never been in trouble with the law, but the State Police is claiming that I am someone with an arrest record. That being said, the State Police background check system is at the very least sloppy, at its’ worst, who knows.
and on Drudge this was reported:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/14/federal-agency-warns-of-radicals-on-right/
So has anyone sent e-mails to the e-mail addresses at the end of the report?
Sounds eerrily similar to the stuff one reads on huff-po. If the writer were here, I would ask them to cite the published academic literature from which they get such silliness. You really think there’s a professional psycological study linking right-wing extremists and, among other things, home forclosures?
Shades of Michelle Obama’s college thesis. Hate and bigotry masking as scholarship. No, I’m not talking about right wing extremists. I’m talking about the DHS report itself!
Yeah, Corzine needs to be ousted. I like Lonegan based on what I’ve read so far. Spread the word.
and thanks for the heads up NJ Repub. I hadn’t seen that.
Notice earlier in the thread Monshoot, a part-time troll, asked to be removed from the site. Hopefully this leads to a mass pull-out of the trolls, except for chap, because he’s amusing and therefore not really a troll in the troll sense of the word.
Fascism springs from the Left.
As always.
They are just following the lead of the mavericky GOP. They hated us first.
Trying to figure out if I’m a chattering 1) radical or an 2)extremist – clinging to my religion and guns.
Is it possible to be both? That would be so very cool for this more than middle aged (guess now a days that’s “age challenged”) person.
As for the DHS report. This is how the Dems operate. They pre-emptively vilify anything they consider a threat. ANd with the MSM in their back pocket, it’s easy for them to brainwash the masses.
Wow ! I guess I need to silence my rhetoric and go incognito. As it was before in the first revolution, the Sons of Liberty were called patriots by our side and terrorists by King George. Same thing applies to this age. You should not assume that you have any rights under Obama. They will invent a charge no matter how patriotic you are, your affilation to the right will be percieved as radicalism. Historically, its ok for minorities to protests but when main stream America does it, its labled as anti government. What really hits me about this document is that they are REALLY SCARED OF US!
The teaparties will be interesting to see if the left injects violence and blames it on us. We must be careful, because what we see as being normal, patriotic and good for the country is now being perceived as a take over and anti government, even if it the way the left did it with the organization of ACORN, etc. I am a true believer that the GOP or any other conservative movement is dead and will not be allowed to flourish under Obama. With the manipulations of the electorial laws as seen in the last election, the upcoming amnesty and redrawing of the electoroial college, and the new friendly relationships with our lifelong enemies, that the left will ensure that that the new white minority will never again hold any office. Obama better start making some more prisions, or even worse deeper trenches. What we excercise as our right to choose a political party is no longer and is viewed as extremism and you will be presecuted. Obama will snuff it out to ensure his reign.
Now I know why Andrew Sullivan always reads Michelle’s blogs. Even I found that last statement hawt! And I’m a flaming hetero, although my wife might say the candle needs a new wick.
If you look at Drudge this morning, you’ll see that the state of Texas has passed a sovereignty act. I guess everybody in Texas is now a right wing extremist.
I have a feeling this administration is not going to tolerate dissent well.
I also have a feeling this administration may not make it through four years.
Rogue–you are definitely on a roll today!
Here in St. Louis, we’ve been branded as “extremists” and “radicals” on our local Fox channel
The jerk that labeled us that way is a Kool-Aid drinking Obabot and is catching hell for his hate-speech.
It stuns me that the knuckle-dragging Leftists use the cover of the Constitution when THEY protest whatever it is that they protest but when American taxpayers assemble, then we’re labeled with filthy monikers like “tea baggers” or “fluffs”.
Hitler, Stalin, Marx and Mao would be very, very proud of the crazed, slobbering moonbats who believe that Ozero descended from the Heavens.
What will happen when the two ideologies mix it up? To me, its seems inevitable that an incursion will happen.
Debates over appropriate immigration levels and enforcement policy generally fall within the realm of protected political speech under the First Amendment..
“Generally”? Who do these thugs think they are, the Gestapo? Better not answer that one.
There was good bit of controversy in Missouri recently about a report produced for the Missouri Highway patrol warning of the modern militia movement. Missouri has seen it’s share of wackos in the recent past. There was the “Covenent, Sword, and Arm of the Lord”, which was based out of the Missouri and Arkansas Ozarks, and a nutball preacher of the Fred Phelps variety who had family members kidnap his grandchildren because he didn’t like the way they were being raised. But there hasn’t been much mention of civilian militias since McVey got the needle.
What ticked a lot of people off about this report is that it specifically listed legitimate political parties and recent presidential candidates for scrutiny. Ron Paul had his share of weird supporters, but are they really a threat to civilized society?
A copy of the report is here:
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/political-fix/files/2009/03/miac-strategic-alert-militias.pdf
southsideironworks yes you are an “extremist” by government standards for believing you have Rights as a Free Man in the first place-George Washington, Adams, Franklin and the Sons of Liberty were all considered “Extremist”-rebels even. You are in good company good sir.
Are you a member of an Illinois Rights group?
I Carry.org
Illinois Rifle Association
This is my home organization
Arizona Civil Defense League
The Department of Homeland Security does not make me feel all that secure! It was a bad idea when the Republicans drafted it and it is a bad idea now. Yes, we are Extreme in the defense of Liberty.
HIYA again chatters, OT
check your weather and see what you can do.
a side note to attendees to tea parties:
we are to get rain here in Harrisburg PA so I am bringing some rain ponchos for others they are like 3 bucks at Walmart,,, anyway just an idea specially if any elders show up and aren’t full prepared
When my former gov left AZ to join the Obama administration, I was thrilled. She put AZ in the deep red and all I could think of was good friggin’ riddance. Unfortunately, she is more dangerous to the country I love now that she is the head of the gestapo, er, DHS.
I wasn’t sure if I was going to head downtown tomorrow but after this, count me IN!
That report was written like an eighth-grade essay.
I have a feeling this administration is not going to tolerate dissent well.
The slogan in full reads “Left-wing dissent is patriotic”.
It’s fine for people on the left to call the government a dictatorship, but the whole game comes in to jeapordy if the right ever hints at thinking that way.
Allow me to insert the standard Chapoutier triviality here (since he’s apparently busy bilking rich Republicans at the moment) and point out that it’s “beyond a reasonable doubt”. “Beyond the shadow of a doubt” applies only to death penalty cases, so that the leftists can always proclaim a doubt and therefore the injustice of the death penalty.
They crossed that line about .00003 milliseconds after the ultimate monument to affirmative action run amok lied on the oath of office.
“I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”
–James Madison
And McVeigh wasn’t even in a militia.
Folks, its time to retire the Department of Homeland Security – it’s just another “hack-a-rama” larded with self-important political appointees whose agenda will mirror the ideology of whomever occupies the White House.
In the past the FBI, BATFE and U.S. Marshals have been able to keep a damper on the types of ultra-Rightwingers this memo appears to address.
As a previous poster alluded to, having all these “watch” lists which have 10x more names than needed is a hindrence to “homeland security”; reminds me of the old TV game show “Camouflage”
I did notice that he was defending Obama a lot recently. I expect his “voice of reason” arguments, but lately it seems like he’s defending everything.
Rogue Cheddar, on the other hand, seems to have gotten in the cooking sherry this morning.
Please also take a look at the Defense budget…
They are changing military training from Big Battle Operations, to Anti Insurgency Ops…
Only time you need anti insurgency is when you INVADE a country (which they are now using as justification), or in case of internal Rebelion.
Training and doctrine take YEARS to take effect… so we are either going to be a Foreign occupier in foreign countrys for many years to come… or they ae worried about somthing here at home.
This military change in focus really has me worried…
Recently? When did he ever do otherwise? He’s a party hack. Obama could suspend the Constitution and declare himself President For Life and chappy would be here explaining why it’s a good thing.
lgm is dumber, but has more intellectual honesty.
And you thought humor and paranoia were mutually exclusive.
You can be alarmed at the Left, but there is also the overwhelming urge to to just laugh yourself silly at what bubbles from betwen their ears!
I’ll be there tomorrow but, hmmm, what to wear?
Let’s see, I have a small business and I’m an employer … perhapse I should wear a business suit?
Yeah! Maybe we should ALL wear our Sunday Best tomorrow, (a lot of the leftist loons don’t know what that means let alone possess such garb.)
(hic) Don’t give me that stank blare! I know my cacapity! (hic)
Who become the producers if they take down conservatives? I’d love to sit back and watch the lefties try run the whole thing.
My view is they can’t get us all. Lock me up for believing the constitution. What happens to my employees? The majority of whom are left or lean left.
Seems the fascists er ah Democrats would be shooting themselves in the foot. No?
Trouble connecting here; DOS attack in progress?
More and more I have been saying that all it takes to be considered an extremist these days is to echo the same things the founding fathers said 200+ years ago.
Well, seems the leftists agree openly now. If the new administration considers me one step short of a terrorist because I will not roll over and blindly accept the destruction of the nation I swore oath to defend, so be it.
This report is already evidence of that.
I think the DHS description fits several of our Supreme Court justices especially Justice Thomas. I wonder what he thinks about all this?
I am gladly wearing that label of extremist, but what strikes me and what really angers me beyond comprehensive thought is – this is a back slap at every Vet there ever was and a double back slap at all our returning Vets.
Is it just coincidence or is the BHO
Gestapopeace loving regime deeply disturbed that this document has been leaked to the public. Throughout this morning access to Michelle’s site and the Washington Times site (which is featuring this same report) has been repeatedly disrupted with page timeouts, database errors and the like… but my connection bandwidth is unaffected elsewhere.This article alone gives strong evidence that BHO and his
brown-shirtsstaff have overstepped the executive authority intended by our constitutional framers. BHO’s goal is to strip away our freedom leaving us to be completely independent on the federal apparatus. He has the ambitions of his comrade Chavez in Venezuela.He will fail in his quest.
Hmmm, I think they might be overlooking or forgetting all of the gangbangers that went into the military just to learn the skills necessary for urban combat. Theres nothing like watching a kid in MS13 knowing how to slice the pie.
But so be it. If they want to turn non-radicalized veterans into right-wing extremists, I guess they know what they are doing. But they might want to watch Rambo: First Blood before they start down this road.
Because once it starts, I know that I have about 3 items of business to take care of. AND Ive always wanted to give myself a self-guided tour of the Statue Of Liberty and the Washington Monument.
Could be. Andrew Sullivan linked this thread a little while ago. Of course Andrew is pooh poohing the whole DHS thing. Ooh! Is it kosher to mention Andrew Sullivan and pooh pooh in the same paragraph? :huh:
It looks like they think we are all going to get Mohawk haircuts and act like the “Taxi Driver.”What is this syndrome going to be called?
Yeah, the site was unreachable from the NY area for about 20 mins. Could have just been a net outage that was unrelated to the site. But it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if some MoveOn.org hacker squad was busy creating a DoS attack.
If the DHS wants to root out extremists… they need to interrogate Soros and the top people at ACORN and the WPA. But alas… that is not their new purpose. Their new purpose is to label Obama dissenters as radicals and terrorists.
Europe knows a lot about this tactic.
I just tuned into this thread and haven’t had a chance to read the comments yet. But I want to go on record as saying…I will stand up for my Christian, Conservative beliefs no matter what happens, and you can take that to the bank! Anything even a little to the right of liberal extremist is suspect to them and they are trying to make us look crazy. It will not stand! I truly believe the might of RIGHT is on our side. Keep lifting those prayers!!
Tomorrow may be interesting. I’m hoping for a patriotic airing of displeasure with the direction our country is being taken. But, I’m bracing for disruptions by the ACORN shock troops.
I wish some Texans would come to NJ and tell Jon Corzine of the New Socialist Party how to run this state. One can dream…….
A government funded non-governmental organization funding pro-government protests against American citizens expressing their first amendment rights? Does that sound like Venezuelan style politics to you? Wow.
Not during Passover!
yer killin’ me, Rogue
Waco and Ruby Ridge are not far behind.
FYI
I get an “website broken” message when I try to load Michelle’s page.
The libs are scared of us alright, but they are making these moves now before conservatives figure out what it will *really* take to get change in this country.
The Tea Parties are a statement that needs to be made, but they will be ignored by the administration, and only serve to allow DHS to get pictures to match to names of “dissenters”.
As things progress over the next year, conservatives will be blames for acts of violence that they did not commit. Arrests will start being made. Prisons will complain of being to full, and at that point the government will start to build what we all know are death camps.
We all know, also, that absolute gun control is just around the corner, and that the government wants it done ASAP to protect themselves.
The big question is, will you endorse or condemn the first act by a militant group against the federal government?
I’m part of no such group, but it’s a question that’s been on my mind. If civil war is the only road back, how do we know when it has started?
Dang Queenie – if you rode a Harley, you’d be perfect!
It seems to me that the proper response to DHS and Obama on this is, “Read my
lipsmiddle finger… My freedoms were given to me by God and NOT government. I take this seriously and no political fad is worth my liberty nor my honor!”Yeh, but those are incidents that are isolated and far apart. Its like how two good old boys deputies can patrol a whole town on Friday night. You get one accident out on the Interstate, one domestic violence call, one teenage party that goes out of control and then theres no one to watch the bank or the 7-11.
Theres only so many FBI negotiators and snipers to handle Compton, the Bronx, Cabrini-Green and Bubba whos been awake for two weeks while cooking in the meth lab.
And dont forget that Bubba is one of the deputy’s brothers.
Civil war isn’t really an option. Any such move would be squashed in an instant. The left figured out how to overthrow a government without firing a shot. And they are well on their way to doing just that.
Obama says he loves this country. His actions say otherwise. What he loves is what he wants to make this country into. That would be a place where government controls all freedoms we previously enjoyed and his party’s power is irrevocable.
I have been getting error from MM and HA most of the morning.
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Rogue’s humor is often a bit lubed, perhaps he likes wine with that cheese.