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Confirmed: The Obama DHS hit job on conservatives is real

By Michelle Malkin • April 14, 2009 12:01 AM

Yesterday, Roger Hedgecock and the Liberty Papers posted an unclassified DHS Office of Intelligence and Analysis report titled:

Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.

The “report” (PDF file here) was one of the most embarrassingly shoddy pieces of propaganda I’d ever read out of DHS. I couldn’t believe it was real.

I spent the day chasing down DHS spokespeople, who have been tied up preparing for a very important homeland security event later today: The First Lady is coming to visit their Washington office. Priorities, you know.

Well, the press office got back to me and verified that the document is indeed for real.

They were very defensive — preemptively so — in asserting that it was not a politicized document and that DHS had done reports on “leftwing extremism” in the past. I have covered DHS for many years and am quite familiar with past assessments they and the FBI have done on animal rights terrorists and environmental terrorists. But those past reports have always been very specific in identifying the exact groups, causes, and targets of domestic terrorism, i.e., the ALF, ELF, and Stop Huntingdon wackos who have engaged in physical harassment, arson, vandalism, and worse against pharmaceutical companies, farms, labs, and university researchers.

By contrast, the piece of crap report issued on April 7 is a sweeping indictment of conservatives. And the intent is clear. As the two spokespeople I talked with on the phone today made clear: They both pinpointed the recent “economic downturn” and the “general state of the economy” for stoking “rightwing extremism.” One of the spokespeople said he was told that the report has been in the works for a year. My b.s. detector went off the chart, and yours will, too, if you read through the entire report — which asserts with no evidence that an unquantified “resurgence in rightwing extremist recruitment and radicalizations activity” is due to home foreclosures, job losses, and…the historical presidential election.

In Obama land, there are no coincidences. It is no coincidence that this report echoes Tea Party-bashing left-wing blogs (check this one out comparing the Tea Party movement to the Weather Underground!) and demonizes the very Americans who will be protesting in the thousands on Wednesday for the nationwide Tax Day Tea Party.

From the report, p.2:

Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.

From the report. p. 3:

(U//LES) Rightwing extremists are harnessing this historical election as a recruitment tool. Many rightwing extremists are antagonistic toward the new presidential administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, including immigration and citizenship, the expansion of social programs to minorities, and restrictions on firearms ownership and use. Rightwing extremists are increasingly galvanized by these concerns and leverage them as drivers for recruitment. From the 2008 election timeframe to the present, rightwing extremists have capitalized on related racial and political prejudices in expanded propaganda campaigns, thereby reaching out to a wider audience of potential sympathizers.

(U) Exploiting Economic Downturn

(U//FOUO) Rightwing extremist chatter on the Internet continues to focus on the economy, the perceived loss of U.S. jobs in the manufacturing and construction sectors, and home foreclosures. Anti-Semitic extremists attribute these losses to a deliberate conspiracy conducted by a cabal of Jewish “financial elites.” These “accusatory” tactics are employed to draw new recruits into rightwing extremist groups and further radicalize those already subscribing to extremist beliefs. DHS/I&A assesses this trend is likely to accelerate if the economy is perceived to worsen.

From the report, p. 5:

(U//FOUO) Over the past five years, various rightwing extremists, including militias and white supremacists, have adopted the immigration issue as a call to action, rallying point,
and recruiting tool. Debates over appropriate immigration levels and enforcement policy generally fall within the realm of protected political speech under the First Amendment, but in some cases, anti-immigration or strident pro-enforcement fervor has been directed against specific groups and has the potential to turn violent.

And echoing the anti-military bigotry last seen in that disgusting Penn State University training video, there’s this on p. 7:

(U) Disgruntled Military Veterans

(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists—including lone wolves or small terrorist cells—to carry out violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.

There’s no hackneyed left-wing stereotype of conservatives left behind in this DHS intelligence and analysis assessment. I asked both DHS spokespeople to tell me who, specifically, the report was accusing of “rightwing extremist chatter” and which “antigovernment” groups are being monitored as “extremists.” They say they’ll get back to me.

In the meantime, be aware of this from the report, p. 8:

(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A will be working with its state and local partners over the next several months to ascertain with greater regional specificity the rise in rightwing extremist activity in the United States, with a particular emphasis on the political, economic, and social factors that drive rightwing extremist radicalization.

Better make a few last-minute signs for the Tea Party. Obama’s DHS is watching:

Honk if you’re a radicalized rightwing extremist!

Guilty of rightwing extremist chatter

Anti-government, pro-freedom: Sue me

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Previous: Missouri retracts report linking militias, 3rd party candidates.

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Oh, I’m sure DHS will be issuing its report on self-proclaimed bank terrorists like Bruce Marks of NACA and criminal rackeeters harassing private citizens in their homes to “exploit the economic downturn” any day now.

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Update: John Hinderaker weighs in the report.

Also good reading in Jonah Goldberg’s thread here.

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#301

On April 14th, 2009 at 12:39 pm, md1964 said:

I’ve said it before…

At some point, being a White Christian Heterosexual Male will eventually be a crime in this country.

Welcome to Nazi America.. the people voted Adolph “Hugo-Fidel-Stalin” Obama into power and Power is being seized and expanded.

So all I can say to everyone…
Don’t Blame Me… I voted for Palin!!!!!
#303

On April 14th, 2009 at 12:41 pm, PatriotRider said:

I’ll be at the ABQ NM Tea Party with my “Social Hazard: I will not conform” T-shirt holding a sign that says, “Don’t Tax Me Bro!”
#304

On April 14th, 2009 at 12:42 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

jim m said:

All the report does is tell local and state agencies to be more attentive.

I think you are all blowing this out of proportion.

No, I respectfully disagree.

What this report does is allow the administration to put a label of “Extremist” on anything associated with “right-wing”.

right to life
2nd amendment rights.
1st amendment rights.
freedom of religion.
border security

and the list continues.

You should know by now that segments of the left maintains long term plans. Much like Islamists. This is a just one paver in a long leftist-statist walkway.
#305

On April 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm, tarpon said:

It’s clear that left wing radicals, like ACTING president Obama are trying to make conservatives hated. They fear conservatives more that the terrorists in Iran, the other despots of the world.

How is this consistent with the oath they take?

Shouldn’t we expect the media to take Obama to task like they would Bush if he had put out this kind of left wing radical tripe.

The most divisive president ever.
#306

On April 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm, emjem24 said:

What happened to this country? I barely recognize this country anymore. Is this report a new way for the DHS to keep itself “relevant.”

As a spouse of a military member, I vehemently resent the insinuations of the DHS regarding veterans. I don’t think anyone like Lgm or his fellow travelers truly understand what it’s like to actually serve this country and then have that country turn on you in a heartbeat. I daresay that many veterans have picked up on the disdain that many lefties and Dems have for the military.

I wish that this “report” was an aberration but it’s not. It’s not just the government who looks at military members and their families with a jaundiced eye, it’s American society. It’s even the most unlikely subscribers- so-called conservative communities like Colorado Springs, CO and Montgomery, AL. It’s easy to scapegoat those of us who know the truth: military members and their families are treated poorly and don’t get a lot in return for their service. We’ve already had so many promises broken that it’s hard to keep count:

1. Instead of 50% pension after retirement, retirees receive only less than half that.

2. Instead of free healthcare for life we’ve seen the advent of Champus then “Tricare For Life” where fees have been raised, care/medicine rationed, and even certain services either botched or denied.

3. Opportunities for military spouses unfullfilled. Many military spouses CAN’T FIND JOBS. This persisted the last 8 years before the recession.

4. Free childcare has turned into long waitlists at many base childcare facilities and military families have had to look elsewhere.

This report is startling in its ignorance and its arrogance. How they portray “returning military veterans” and military members is just plain ridiculous, foolish, even short-sighted. Is this how the the left treats those who served their country?

After seeing both this report and the actions of the federal government in recent months, I no longer feel that I have to justify my belief systems to them or American society. If they want to treat military members like sh!t, that’s their choice. However, I no longer identify with the selfish whims of both the government and the American people who voted for it.

THEY CAN ALL GO TO HELL
#307

On April 14th, 2009 at 12:45 pm, HarryStar said:

…They don’t include threats/acts of violence against public officials like the POTUS.

On April 14th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, undresiege said:

You mean like a movie about the assassination of GWB? You mean how the leftists were throwing eggs at the POTUS during his first inauguration? How many MSM hosts out there “stoked” their viewers hatred of the POTUS?

States rights are now considered “un-American”???

Patrick Henry leading the “Watched-List” I’m sure!!!
#310

On April 14th, 2009 at 12:54 pm, emjem24 said:

moonshot said:
Please remove me from this blog. Thanks in advance.

No loss… take your fellow lefty moonbats with you. ACORN really needs your help!

Tah tah…
#311

On April 14th, 2009 at 12:54 pm, HarryStar said:

Oh, (I’m sure that this will put me on “The List” of course but….

Wasn’t the gunman in Binghamton upset because he was afraid that POTUS Obama was going to take away his 2nd amendment gun rights?

Based upon that theory, isn’t this DHS report just “creating” those right wing Jihadi’s so to speak?

Thanks, have to wait for the FBI to call now
#312

On April 14th, 2009 at 12:56 pm, TanyaB said:

OMG, OMG I’m an Extremist!!!!!!

Gee, I don’t feel any different. I haven’t had the urge to blow up anything, shoot a cop, perform mass killings of any kind. Now what do I do?
#313

On April 14th, 2009 at 12:56 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

JonB said:

NJ-Aviator:The libs have been successful yes, but they’ve been working on this for decades.
We do not have decades to save the country, because conservatives have been sitting back, foolishly thinking that their letters and e-mails to their representatives were being paid attention to.
You can not change the minds of the liberals.
Sure, civil war wouldn’t ever get off the ground. We’ve been letting them take more and more of our weapons, and now we are no threat at all. Any, any, uprising will simply be squashed.
As such I often wonder why we waste our time even having blogs and similar areas of discussion. Unless we have a morbid fascination with chattering about how or when we will be executed for not bowing to the Obamanation.

I don’t disagree about where we are today. It’s not good at all. Very bad in fact. And yes, the clock is ticking. Obama is on a path to burn the bridges back to freedom. Frankly, I think he should be thrown in jail for disregarding his oath to protect and defend the constitution. But that’s just my opinion.

Blogs like this alert us to whats going on. It’s also a vehicle to organize. Not directly, but without this medium, there wouldn’t be as many people up in arms about what’s going on.

The power to undo and also to prevent the damage that’s about to be done is out there. It’s latent in a population that hasn’t been getting involved. The only way out of this is to get people in power and in control that have the ideals that this country was founded on. There’s no quick, one-button fix to that. It’s going to take a lot of highly motivated people (like Michelle Malkin, Rush and others) to get a lot more highly motivated people to apply pressure and get people elected. And get those that have already been elected to see the light.

Yeah… we need some change… just not O-Dopey’s kind of change.
#315

On April 14th, 2009 at 12:57 pm, 24Klady said:

This report is more frightening than anything else this regime has accomplished in the last 100 days. I would forward this to every military member so they’ll know what they’re in for on returning to civilian life.
#317

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:00 pm, HotWeaver said:

The report has no author. Probably it’s a newcomer who thought he knew what he was doing.
#319

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:03 pm, SpeakEasy said:

They are right to be afraid.

Staeling elections, stealing our paychecks, stealing our security.

They are right to be afraid.
#321

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:04 pm, HotWeaver said:

On April 14th, 2009 at 12:56 pm, TanyaB said:

OMG, OMG I’m an Extremist!!!!!!

Gee, I don’t feel any different. I haven’t had the urge to blow up anything, shoot a cop, perform mass killings of any kind. Now what do I do?

Well, I do know a report you can burn. Not because you don’t want it read, but just because it’s useless except as fuel. It’s spring and time for a recreational fire. Get some extremist hot dogs and extremist buns. Maybe also some extremist right wings.
#323

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm, Regulus said:

Michelle, you may have a job that’s tough, dirty and even dangerous at times, but never thankless: you’ll always have my gratitude and doubtless that of many others here for wading into the ideological sewer that the American Left has become — and telling us what you find.

As for the report itself, it’s unremarkable:

1. If I put together some people who are haters to write a “report” about people they hate, then it’s unremarkable that they produced this report.

2. If the same group of haters see themselves as the embodiment of all that is normal, good and reasonable, then it’s unremarkable that they not only can’t identify any “left” wing, but also have never figured out that “right wing” and “extremist” are two separate terms.

3. If it’s axiomatic that to the American Left the only enemy for all occasions is the American Right, then it’s unremarkable that once in charge of DHS they would convert that department into a tool with which to prosecute their own war — against the people they consider to be the “real” enemies of America.

Huey Long was right: When Fascism comes to America, it’ll call itself “anti-Fascism.” The evidence is mounting that it’s already taken root and is growing:

- A cult of personality and a “Dear Leader” who cannot be questioned, not to mention opposed;

- Corporatist nationalization of key economic sectors;

- Censorship (voluntary at present for the self-styled “mainstream” outlets, but eventually to extend to muzzling of non state-controlled media);

- Fabulous corruption, mixed with a brazen double-standard for constitutional and legal compliance; and ultimately …

- Criminalization of political opposition.

Think of this DHS “report” as laying another paving stone along the highway leading to that last item above.

“First they came for the racist, misogynist, homophobic, gun-and-Bible-clinging, Constitution-thumping and ex-military ‘Right-Wing Extremists’; but I did nothing, for I owned neither a gun nor a Bible, thought that the Constitution really was a ‘Living, Breathing Document,’ and voted for the Dear Leader so I couldn’t possibly be a bigot…

Then they came for the criminally selfish 21st Century ‘Kulaks’ who objected to paying for everyone else’s mistakes from their ill-gotten savings and earnings; but I did nothing, for I was either renting or already in default on my mortgage, and paid no taxes in any event…

Then they came for the purveyors of ‘Hate Speech’ like Rush Limbaugh, FOX News and the Federalist Society; but I did nothing, for I got all my news in any event from Katie Couric…

Then they came for the ‘Self-Loathing Race-Traitors’ like Michelle Malkin, who not only refused to stay on the identity-politics collective farm but who also had the temerity to speak out of turn…
#325

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

xler8bmw said:

I asked some of our guys I know what they thought about the cuts and then sending more to afghanistan. I thought again, I was being a conspiracy nut. But, they agreed they are being sent to a meat grinder and we will have high levels of military deaths. This is the reason for allowing the press to film them coming back in coffins so to get unrest and liberal backlash on the wars.

This is truly scary indeed

Yes xler8, that’s a valid point. I believe Obama would be willing to allow our military men and women to die specifically to say… “There… I’ve tried that… see all the coffins? Now we’re pulling out the military and negotiating.”

They have an agenda and every detail of what they do has a purpose towards that agenda.
#327

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

For the first time in my life, I am proud of my country.
#328

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:12 pm, Mojave Mark said:

Notice how only the right can have extremist hate groups. The left is cool with BO. This is Stalinistic stuff.
#329

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:12 pm, rightisright said:

On April 14th, 2009 at 8:36 am, xler8bmw said:

I don’t put it past him and his admin for a complete power grab.

In total agreement, seems everyday he comes up with another un-American, constitution defeating way. I’ve had this same feeling almost from the 1st time I saw this clown making a speech…I thought who is this guy running for the presidency he’s nobody, a nothing. I underestimated the stupidity and indoctrination the country has under gone for decades.
My only real hope of our taking our country back is “clinging to…”, along with the vast majority of military will not fire upon constitution believing Americans.
#330

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:12 pm, ErinF said:

Obama would be willing to allow our military men and women to die specifically to say… “There… I’ve tried that… see all the coffins? Now we’re pulling out the military and negotiating.”

Obama works directly for the enemy. He’s a terrorist from within.

Our country is less safe with him as president, than if we didn’t have any president at all.
#331

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:12 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

On April 14th, 2009 at 8:36 am, xler8bmw said:

This seems as if they’re setting up a scenario to create a situation so that BHO can instill martial law.

Watch this video and understand Obama’s “inspiration”.

You will never get real freedom and recognition between black and white people in this country without destroying the country, without destroying the present political system, without destroying the present economic system, without rewriting the entire constitution. It will be a complete destruction of everything that America supposedly stands for.

–Malcolm X

Only Malcolm X’s autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words. His unadorned insistence on respect. He promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline.

–Barack Hussein Obama

“martial in its discipline“? As in Martial Law?

Is Barack Hussein Obama the “Chosen One” to fulfill William Ayers’ forgotten communist manifesto: Prairie Fire?

Ayers is a Violent, Revolutionary Communist. What is Obama?
#332

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:16 pm, Speakup said:

Love My Country, Fear My Government
#334

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:18 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

On April 14th, 2009 at 8:48 am, alaskangrizzly said:

So it comes that a US government “report” looks no different than a communist “report” on groups it would like to crush to maintain its iron rule on the people.

How true.

The struggle against the ultra-right, against the most reactionary sector of the transnationals, and for achieving a defeat of its political power is of great significance. However, such a defeat alone will not end the ultra-right danger. There will still be the danger that the most extreme reactionaries, militarists, and racists in our country will seek to impose fascism—an open terrorist dictatorship of big capital. Only the replacement of capitalism—which gives birth to these political trends—by socialism can finally do away with the ultra-right threat.

- Program of the Communist Party USA,
Defeating the Ultra-Right
#335

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:19 pm, chapoutier said:

I did notice that he was defending Obama a lot recently. I expect his “voice of reason” arguments, but lately it seems like he’s defending everything.

Hardly everything, but who else is going to speak up about some of the more asinine accusations thrown out by this peanut gallery?

Off the top of my head in recent history…

I “defended” Obama from an accusation that the dog was named “Bo” to assuage his ego.

I “defended” the fact that he managed to “suppress” a report that was actually released 2 1/2 months sooner than it ever had before.

I “defended” the fact that the GIVE Act was in fact not passed with certain language about mandatory service (N.B. That bill is through reconciliation and lo and behold, the language is still not there.

I “defended” the fact that Obama gave a very nice personal gift to the Queen, when it was deliberately ignored and instead people chose to focus on the iPod that was given as well.

I “defended” the statement that Obama has done nothing indicating any support for the repeal of the 22nd Amendment.

I will tell you what I have not defended in the recent past:

Geithner.
The lie from the WH that Obama did not bow to the Saudi king.
Saying the stimulus bill had no pork.
The AIG bonus debacle.

Neither list is exhaustive. But forgive me if I disagree with not only the positions but most often the tenor and rancor of many of the comments here.

Now if anyone cares to know what I think of the report above?

The general sentiment of the report is probably correct. Of course one would expect a rise in right wing extremism during an Obama administration, just as one would expect (and surely saw) a rise in left wing radicalism under Bush. However, it seems to do a piss-poor job of defining extremism and thus I think it walks too close a line to politicization. It does not distinguish the ideal from the action.

I do not think there is anything specific in the report that would lead one to believe that the Admin is looking to crack down on the types of protests or the types of posters (for the most part) that is represented here unless one is generally predisposed to think that anyway. But it is also not too much of a stretch to read that into the report. At best it is poorly sourced and vague. And ultimately hollow. What does it really say? That there are right wing extremist groups that hate the govenrment? Knock me over with a feather. It does make a tepid attempt to distinguish between legitimate protest and fomenting hatred, i.e.,

Debates over appropriate immigration levels and enforcement policy generally fall within the realm of protected political speech under the First Amendment, but…

This is not enough. As I think MM was getting at, previous similar reports targeted specific organizations or activities. This should do the same.
#336

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:19 pm, flenser said:

You all sound like the lefties who thought Bush was going to try to turn America into the Christian version of Iran and colonize the Middle East.

Lefties like you. But I don’t recall DHS worrying that the ACLU was a threat to the homeland, even though it’s a bigger one than the American Legion.
#337

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:19 pm, Stillwaiting said:

Wait, I’m confused. The left approves of the Weather Underground…so if they compare the Tea Parties to them, they must like the idea of the Tea Parties. Right?

Dear God, Please don’t let any left-loonies do anything stupid (violent) at a Tea Party in an attempt to discredit the movement. Amen!
#338

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:22 pm, SpeakEasy said:

Is it also possible this an attempt to fan the flames of outrage on the blogs to the point where they can justify taking control of the internet?

http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/03/your-telescreen-is-calling/
#339

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:22 pm, McCloud9 said:

Ayers is a Violent, Revolutionary Communist. What is Obama?

A Muslim,A Fascist,A Loyal Student
#340

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:22 pm, flenser said:

It does make a tepid attempt to distinguish between legitimate protest and fomenting hatred

I’ve never noticed that DHS was very concerned wth the fomenting of hatred, whan that fomenting was coming from the left. So this sudden thought-police aspect of theirs is … curious.
#341

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:25 pm, chapoutier said:

I’ve never noticed that DHS was very concerned wth the fomenting of hatred, whan that fomenting was coming from the left. So this sudden thought-police aspect of theirs is … curious.

Well, then blame the previous admin. Or maybe you are just not aware of them.
#342

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:27 pm, MrScribbler said:

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm, Regulus said:

As for the report itself, it’s unremarkable:

If you are looking at this as a paper no primary-school teacher would have accepted from a student, you’re right.

What makes it “remarkable” is that it provides fodder for Osama Obama to continue forcing the nation down the road to Marxism and worse.

All the child-president has to do is say “based on this report, I am ordering these actions…” and more of our Constitutional rights are toast.

To think we have not had this Manchurian President in office for even three months….

It is time for the decent, law-abiding (and peaceable) citizens of this nation to demand the Chicago Jesus’s impeachment.
#343

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:27 pm, rooster said:

The world according to chap,
Leftwingers are radicals, and right wingers are extremist.
You sir are a dumb ass, educated IDIOT!
#344

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:28 pm, ErinF said:

Why are lib chicks always angry, ugly bull-dykes?
#345

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

On April 14th, 2009 at 8:55 am, xler8bmw said:

I asked some of our guys I know what they thought about the cuts and then sending more to afghanistan. I thought again, I was being a conspiracy nut. But, they agreed they are being sent to a meat grinder and we will have high levels of military deaths.

I agree with you. Call me a conspiracy nut, but I believe LBJ and Carter were Communists who sent good men into intentional meat grinders (Vietnam and the Iranian Hostage Rescue) where ROE prevented victory and their efforts were sabotaged. Call me a conspiracy nut, but I believe Obama is a Communist who wants to send good men into intentional meat grinders.

Pray for our troops.

And please say an extra prayer for Track Palin, as I suspect the far left would like to see him return in a coffin. In Jesus’ name, I pray a hedge of protection around Track, his unit, and all of our armed forces.
#346

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm, flenser said:

So, based on reading this report, can I assume that the non-English speaking Chinese guy who shot up the immigration center in NY recently was a “right wing extremist”?

Boy, I sure hope the DHS cracks down on those sorts of right-wing extremists. Why do I suspect that’s not going to happen?
#347

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:31 pm, lottadawg said:

What I am surprised about is that this should happen so quickly (before his 100 days are up), and that Obama’s teleprompter is telling him to install his enemies list.
Not Iran, N. Korea, or even somalies.
Just traditional Americans who are by decree right wing extremist.
I smell Rham! Its going to take a long time to get the smell of sulpher out of the Oval Office.
#348

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:31 pm, chapoutier said:

The world according to chap,
Leftwingers are radicals, and right wingers are extremist.
You sir are a dumb ass, educated IDIOT!

Not what I said at all, but not a surprise you would get it wrong. All I said was there was left wing radicalism and right wing extremism. Feel free to flip them right around if you wish there, fella. Not sure why you would think one descriptor is better than the other.
#349

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm, Tazed and Confused said:

We are all haters here according to the epitomy of deceit, BHO… but isn’t it interesting that TERRORIST BOMBER BILLY AYERS is a patriot according to Barack…

BHO has been quick to adopt the rhetoric of Hamas… by defining those that want to uphold the institutions and principles that this country was founded upon, as “terrorists”.

Such insanity reminds me of the times of Nero when Christians were known as “atheists” because they refused to bow to the Roman “god” Nero.

Today, patriots are called terrorists because they refuse to bow to messiah Obama’s ilk (while Obama bows to the real terrorists).
#350

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:33 pm, katablog said:

That report was written like an eighth-grade essay.

Sorry it reads like an over-hyped gossip rag or some comment you’d expect on Huffington Post is the language cleaned up.
#351

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm, flenser said:

Civil war isn’t really an option. Any such move would be squashed in an instant.

That depends on which side the military falls. And to a lesser extent, the police.
#352

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm, Regulus said:

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:27 pm, MrScribbler said:

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm, Regulus said:

As for the report itself, it’s unremarkable:

If you are looking at this as a paper no primary-school teacher would have accepted from a student, you’re right.

What makes it “remarkable” is that it provides fodder for Osama Obama to continue forcing the nation down the road to Marxism and worse.

– What’s remarkable about that? Anyone who paid even a little attention to the Dear Leader during his election campaign saw that coming from over the horizon.

The only thing to date that has surprised me even a little about the Hope-a-Dope administration is that they let the left-wing cat out of the bag as quickly as they did. I was thinking they’d pretend to be “moderates” for at least half a year before veering over the cliff edge.
#354

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:40 pm, hawkeye54 said:

So, based on reading this report, can I assume that the non-English speaking Chinese guy who shot up the immigration center in NY recently was a “right wing extremist”?

No, I do believe to qualify, one must be somewhat WASPish, and a potential threat to our current administration. Now its, possible, by liberal thinking, he might have been influenced by exposure to “right wing extremism”, in which case he was a victim of it and not a perpatrator.
#355

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:41 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

Oh, geez! I am so screwed!

Hope is not a plan; not all change is good. WE are the civilian national security force. Navy SEAL snipers rock! The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST!!!!

ECS
#357

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:41 pm, John Deaux said:

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:19 pm, chapoutier said:

I was referring to comments I skimmed through since I was busy this weekend. I usually read your posts and it seemed you were doing a lot of defending.

Personally, I look to you for the “reasonable” liberal point of view.

Most people who are to the left of center are impossible to talk to. They do not have any logical points and if you engage them and disprove their talking point, they get angry. Fortunately, you will actually explain your point without the negativity that is common to undresiege, ILMC and regrettably sometimes even aimed back at you from our side.

Whether this report is just shoddy work by a partisan hack within DHS or an indicator of a bigger agenda remains to be seen, but a series of coincidences becomes a pattern and a pattern becomes policy.

Can you imagine for even a second if such a report came out under the Bush administration aimed at the left wing?
#358

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:42 pm, undresiege said:

You mean like a movie about the assassination of GWB?

It was a fictional movie.

You mean how the leftists were throwing eggs at the POTUS during his first inauguration?

If that happen I won’t defend it as a Right. What’s your point?>

How many MSM hosts out there “stoked” their viewers hatred of the POTUS?

I saw that from MSNBC and AirAmerica, but now Fox and RWradio is doing the same thing to Obama. That’s the way it goes.

States rights are now considered “un-American”???

Umm, no. Wanting to secede from the Union is un-American.

Wasn’t the gunman in Binghamton upset because he was afraid that POTUS Obama was going to take away his 2nd amendment gun rights?

Based upon that theory, isn’t this DHS report just “creating” those right wing Jihadi’s so to speak?

That’s what this thread is about. Somebody even posted above that they don’t think Obama will make it 4 years. Many on the right are hoping something horrible happens to Obama, and are hoping for a violent, xenophobic, “culture war”. Then you can say, “Obama and his policies brought this all about”. You’re setting up a scenario to blame the victim of a horrific incident. There’s a method to the madness here, and some of you are really, really sick.
#360

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:45 pm, chapoutier said:

Can you imagine for even a second if such a report came out under the Bush administration aimed at the left wing?

I agree with this.
#362

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:45 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

On April 14th, 2009 at 9:40 am, CO2 Producer said:

I want to know how they define strident fervor, and what they find so dangerous about it. Strident fervor sounds like a negative redefinition of passion.

Patrick Henry’s “Give me liberty, or give me death!” is now considered strident fervor and dangerous.
#363

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:51 pm, Chief1942 said:

And the surprise is?? Anyone who has been listening, either before the election and especially after, should have seen this coming. Oh! Of course those that have been cautioning about such a jack-booted approach were simply labeled as “alarmists, whack jobs, knuckle dragging idiots”, etc. Not to worry. This nation grew out of rebellion and it will be resurrected through the very same. It will simply take a small amount more pain which the current administration is more than happy to provide. What I am wondering is just what the “trigger” will be that finally pushes mainstreet America over the brink. And those “Tea Partys”, cute but not what is needed. One can already see just how serious the Socilaist/Progressives and their MSM cohorts view that approach. I patiently await the clarion call.
#364

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:52 pm, vinny said:

Please check out the latest photoshop at http://www.galtslist.com – tea party sign we would all be proud of.
#365

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:52 pm, MrScribbler said:

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm, Regulus said:

– What’s remarkable about that? Anyone who paid even a little attention to the Dear Leader during his election campaign saw that coming from over the horizon.

I am using the word “remarkable” in the sense that this must be “remarked,” that is paid attention to.

Too many people are afraid to speak up against the small tyrannies, lest they be ignored when the big ones come along.

Seems to me the Osama Obama Way is to build his pyramid out of small tyrannies, hoping the sheep will remain quiescent.

I still say the child-president must be impeached, and the time for that possibility is running out at a speed far greater than most people will let themselves imagine.
#367

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm, Living in the PSRK said:

On April 14th, 2009 at 9:59 am, spaceycakes said:
yeah, where ARE the usual leftie trolls today? Don’t tell me they’re actually reading the report??

Wasn’t there Lefty “protests” or “supporter movements” the last couple of days? Maybe they were trying to get their “movements” together today?

Loved the dozen of them that showed up in Wash DC yesterday. The Anti-Iran protest was larger. Much larger.
#368

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:54 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

On April 14th, 2009 at 9:49 am, RedDog said:

Clearly a pre-emptive propaganda strike in preparation for their spring offensive. Personalize, marginalize, demonize,…. all well understood Alinsky/Marxist tactics.

…We are indeed in a war.

The Democratic Socialist Communists (Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et. al.)
have stopped fighting the War on Terror,
and are actively fighting the War on Capitalism.
#369

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:57 pm, Surveyor said:

Careful libs…..

playing with FIRE will definately get you burned.
#371

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm, Surveyor said:

change definately to definitely
#374

On April 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm, orlandocajun said:

Here’s my sign…

“Anti-government, pro-freedom: ~~Sue~~ bite me”

The loons on the left better be careful. All us right-wing extremists are the ones who own guns.
#375

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm, englishqueen01 said:

There’s a method to the madness here, and some of you are really, really sick.

Yes, 4 years ago, when liberals claimed they were defending the country, it was noble and patriotic.

Now, it’s “sick” to stand up for the Constitution.

Give me a break.

Please, by all means, point to the factual evidence in this supposed “intelligence” report that documents evidence to support the claims made in the same.
#376

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:01 pm, prendad said:

I would rather read this report:
LEFTWING Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Mania, Anarchy, and extreme Hysteria based on predominant stupidity and truth avoidance.
#377

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm, Chief1942 said:

This has simply got to make all police officer’s day. Now they have effectively been enlisted into the Progressive/Socilaist army and will be a key part in the effort to “undo America”. I suppose I will now have to view all police officers as agents of the “State”. Now all the WASPS will get to feel what many minorities have been complaing about all these years, PROFILING by the police!!! Welcome to 1984 (a bit behind, but we finally made it!)
#378

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:06 pm, flenser said:

If that happen I won’t defend it as a Right. What’s your point?

I think the point is that you’re an annoying left-wing troll who can’t even spell his own screen name properly.
#379

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, KCK said:

Under the Statist regime, the enemies are within the state.

Chilling…
#380

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, Socky said:

As many have noted, as of 01.20.2009, dissent is no longer patriotic.
#381

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm, Cathy B said:

oh boy!:-(
Proud to be a Right Wing, Reagan Loving, Bible Thumping, Gun toting ‘EXTREEMIST’

I’m going to the Phoenix tea party tomorrow armed with my camcorder, my lawn chair and my sign that sez “Taxed Enough Already”. The other side of the sign, I’ll be using an idea someone said here: I Heart Legal Immigrants!

Signing off with my name and location, cause I ain’t ‘fraid of no ghosts:
Cathy Barnella
Maricopa, AZ
#382

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm, flenser said:

forgive me if I disagree with not only the positions but most often the tenor and rancor of many of the comments here

I suppose you’ll just have to spend more time over at the left-wing blogs, where I’m sure the “tenor and rancor” which troubles your delicate sensibility is totally absent.
#383

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm, Living in the PSRK said:

Umm, miss, would your agree that your rightwing rights don’t include bombing abortion clinics, and terrorizing ethnic groups, or muslims? They don’t include threats/acts of violence against public officials like the POTUS. Those are the types of things the DHS want to be on guard against in these times under Barack Hussein Obama. Obviously you can still have your church, your gat, and your flippin tea parties.

The sky is fallin, the sky is fallin. You all sound like the lefties who thought Bush was going to try to turn America into the Christian version of Iran and colonize the Middle East.

Back so soon?

Obviously, your “movement” wasn’t so big or you would’ve bragged about it here on MM’s blog….

Have a tissue. It seems you still have some “movement” left in you.
#385

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:11 pm, rplatt said:

“That’s what this thread is about. Somebody even posted above that they don’t think Obama will make it 4 years. Many on the right are hoping something horrible happens to Obama, and are hoping for a violent, xenophobic, “culture war”. Then you can say, “Obama and his policies brought this all about”. You’re setting up a scenario to blame the victim of a horrific incident. There’s a method to the madness here, and some of you are really, really sick.”

********************************************************************************************************

The sickness resides in the contents of the above quote.
#386

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:15 pm, DBNinKY said:

I understand DHS wanting to give law enforcement a heads-up on potential sources for the type of unchecked emotion that leads to political extremism. But with its continual references to the “rightwing,” this report reads like an intimidation piece meant to suppress conservatives from speaking out in protest by creating an unwarranted alertness among the nation’s law enforcement population.

If this is not an attempt to intimidate conservatives, then why limit the report to just those unstable elements on the right?

Political extremism exists on both ends of the political spectrum. From the outlandish antics of certain eco-groups to the sometimes violent protests of anti-war groups – the extremists on the Left are equally direct and outspoken to those “rightwing” extremists mentioned in the report, and there are elements among these leftists who are less than in complete control of their emotions. So why issue a report focused singularly on the right? In fact, why politicize a DHS report at all?

I can’t imagine how the media would have howled had President Bush’s DHS issued such a report alerting law enforcement to elements of “leftwing” extremism in the anti-Iraq war protests.
#387

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:15 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

NJ-Aviator, 30 pcs, and NJRepublican said:

Corzine has got to go.

In my opinion, some of the most dangerous people in this country are the 22 who voted against the confirmation of Chief Justice John Roberts:

Akaka (D-HI)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Boxer (D-CA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
#388

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:16 pm, flenser said:

Wanting to secede from the Union is un-American.

That’s odd, because the country was founded by seccession and the Declaration of Independence enshrines that right in crystal clear language. Does any of this sound familiar?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.
#390

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:18 pm, Flyoverman said:

Here’s the bottom line.

If tomorrow there were no police or other law enforcement present and terrorists attacked a city, the majority of the people DHS warned about in their report would grab whatever and rush in to help and meet the threat.

The majority of those who agree with the DHS report would hide or run away.
#392

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:20 pm, Khyris said:

The very first sentence of the report:

The DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) has no specific
information that domestic rightwing* terrorists are currently planning acts of violence,
but rightwing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about
several emergent issues.

Translation: Right wing interest groups are gaining recruits due to issues created by leftwing incompetence.
Analysis: Duh!

The first “supporting sub-paragraph”:

Threats from white supremacist and violent antigovernment groups
during 2009 have been largely rhetorical and have not indicated plans to carry
out violent acts.

Translation: These groups are not related to 99% of right-wing interest groups, and even if they were, they are factually non-violent, but we’ll continue to call them violent typical right-wing groups anyway.
Analysis: Janet, you ignorant slut!
#395

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:22 pm, Chief1942 said:

For those attending those quaint little “Tea Partys” tomorrow, pay special attention to all the cameras in the crowds. Some will be your local Police Department cataloging all those “Right Wing Extremists”. The film will eventiually make it’s way to Ms. Janet at DHS where it will be put in a larger data base to be used at her leasure later.We here in the “Copper State” knew when Janet left Arizona that it would be America’s misfortune.
#397

On April 14th, 2009 at 2:28 pm, undresiege said:

Yes, 4 years ago, when liberals claimed they were defending the country, it was noble and patriotic.

Huh, what? What on earth are u talking about? What do you have in common with liberals from 4 years ago? Exactly how were liberals defending their country 4 years ago in a noble and patriotic way, and who stated so?

Now, it’s “sick” to stand up for the Constitution.

No!!! It’s sick to assume any threats or violent episodes by rightwing conservatives is because of Obama’s policies or pure presence in the Whitehouse.

See:

Oh, (I’m sure that this will put me on “The List” of course but….

Wasn’t the gunman in Binghamton upset because he was afraid that POTUS Obama was going to take away his 2nd amendment gun rights?

Based upon that theory, isn’t this DHS report just “creating” those right wing Jihadi’s so to speak?

This intelligence report isn’t very thorough. If you want factual evidence google the rise in rightwing militia recruitment and membership. Do you remember Terry Nichols? How about Eric Rudolph? Are you penpals with them? Do you know why Obama has extra secret service detail as compared to past presidents? Are you aware of how many RWChristian people out there think like Redpill and think Barack Hussein Obama is a secret communist and muslim?

Look at the rise of the militia movement in the 90s, and how they recruited Gulf War vets to oppose that “radical socialist” Bill Clinton. Do you remember Oklahoma City? You wanna see that again? Have you read The Turner Diaries? Take the 90s and crank it up a thousand notches due to having a biracial president, falsely accused as being a Muslim. Add in these tough economic times, and factor in how people in history have behaved in tough economic times. Those that don’t study and learn from history are destined to repeat it’s errors.