Senators to Napolitano: Show us the data
Senators Coburn, Brownback, DeMint, Burr, Murkowski, Inhofe, and Vitter sent the following letter to DHS Secretary Napolitano yesterday concerning the DHS conservative hit job:
April 16, 2009
The Honorable Janet Napolitano
Secretary
The Department of Homeland Security
310 7th street, S.W.
Washington, DC 20528-0150
VIA FASCMILLE
Dear Secretary Napolitano,
We write today concerning the release of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) report titled “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment” prepared by the Extremism and Radicalization Branch, of the Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division.
While we agree that we must fight extremists who are both foreign and domestic we are troubled by some of the statements your department included as fact in the report titled above, without listing any statistical data to back up such claims.
First, your report states that “Returning veterans possess combat skills and experience that are attractive to rightwing extremists…” without listing any data to support such a vile claim against our nation’s veterans.
Second, the report states that the millions of Americans who believe in the Second Amendment are a potential threat to our national security. Why? Do you have statistics to prove that law-abiding Americans who purchase a legal product are being recruited by so-called hate groups?
Thirdly, the report states that those that believe in issues such as pro-life legislation, limited government, and legal versus illegal immigration are potential terrorist threats. We can assure you that these beliefs are held by citizens of all races, party affiliation, male and female, and should not be listed as a factor in determining potential terror threats. A better word usage would be to describe them as practicing their First Amendment rights.
Also, you list those that bemoan the decline of U.S. stature and the loss of U.S. manufacturing capability to China and India as being potential rightwing extremists. We would suggest that the millions of Americans who have lost their jobs in the manufacturing industry to foreign countries are not potential terror threats, but rather honest Americans worried about feeding their families and earning a paycheck.
In closing, we support the mission of DHS in protecting our country from terror attacks and are proud of the many DHS employees who make this possible in conjunction with our state and local law enforcement. We ask that DHS not use this report as a basis to unfairly target millions of Americans because of their beliefs and the rights afforded to them in the Constitution. We also ask that you provide us with the data that support the unfair claims listed in the report titled above and to present us with the matrix system used in collecting and analyzing this data?
Finally, we look forward to your prompt reply and we offer our assistance to DHS in our shared effort to fight terrorism both home and abroad by using data that is accurate and independent of political persuasion.
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Just the facts, Ma’am, just the facts.
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
But…but…she sputtered…
Those people aren’t liberals, like us…
I think that it is time for veterans like myself to lawyer up and go after Napolitano and her minions in DHS and the FBI for their role in this crap…it’s slander to anyone that has served our country in uniform.
Never let the facts get in the way of your argument.
C’mon Nancy P. Let’s have a congressional investigation into how, this report leaked out.
Won’t be holding my breath awaiting their reply.
An absolutely abysmal cabinet appointment IMHO.
Gee, I guess I am right-wing extremist since I own weapons, want to protect our borders, oppose illegal immigration, am pro-life, etc. I always thought these were core values.
Doc, Michael Savage and TMLC filed suit yesterday. Of course it will go before a liberal judge, so I’m not holding my breath.
Someone already has. See other MM Thread “Stop blaming Bush for DHS hit job”
I wonder if the person(s) in DHS that wrote the paper stating that returning veterans could be subverted to terrorism in the United States of America have created a self fulfilling prophecy? I have the most serious doubts about their conclusions because I am a veteran that returned years ago from Vietnam with anger in my heart and disillusionment in my mind. How I disliked, even hated the cowardly politicians. How I felt a total disconnection from the civilian population that I was thrust back into. If anyone was ripe for subversive activities, I was. So why didn’t I become a terrorist? Why didn’t I become a recruiter for those that would break the laws of this great nation, even when the leadership was craven, greedy and irresponsible? Because one of the things that I learned in the Military was that we, the military were apolitical . We were there to uphold the law of the land regardless of our feelings. Our only outlet was to vote. Nothing more nor less. Whether sent to foreign shores and lands, to ensure peace or fight our country’s adversaries, we had to obey the law of the land. Our country’s will became in most instances our own.
My dislike of our politicians goes to the point today. If it were not for the military engraining in me the above feelings of our ‘ the law of the land’ I could easily become someone that would hunt down our leadership, “politicians that are greedy and self serving” and others of the 595 who lead our country.
What a mockery of Democracy our nation has become. I eagerly await the “revolution of voters” that will take down these craven, power hungry, greedy, spineless politicians so that our country can start afresh.
I have no fifty caliber sniper rifle. I have no bombs. I have no spy satellites nor other observation or surveillance devices. I sincerely hope that the vote will take the place of these things… I await the outcome knowing that these fools that say they are leaders will make a fatal mistake. And the persons that say they are citizens will finally take the reins of this country again.
On April 17th, 2009 at 1:04 pm, fmfnavydoc said:
It’s already happening fmfnavydoc. Check here http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95244
Wait a minute….wasn’t it the knuckle-dragging, barking moonbats who screeched and screamed about Bush “profiling” the muslims and others for 8 years? I thought so. So, what’s the difference between that and this?
fmfnavydoc #3
Get in touch with any military organization you hold membership and go after them. The rest of us can send out links to this item to our address book. I’m outraged and cannot thank the senators that sent the letter to DHS. It’s about danged time someone has to explain where they came up with something so injurious to a major portion of of the population. Do they not realize that besides “right wings” there are also “liberal wings” that have honorably served this country?
We all, know , what the difference is.
I would rather that Nappy look into the domestic terrorists residing in a United States Congress that attacked America and the world with the 2008 Subprime Debacle. Catch those congressional terrorists and you simultaneously solve the greatest financial crime in human history and the current financial crisis. Do you think any responsible Republicans or Democrats might want to ask a few questions about that?
Criminy sakes alive. Politicization of the DHS is disturbing but what does it take to get these dopes to focus on the most important criminal act of our time?
The fact that these morons pull this kind of stuff may be creating the monster they believe is in their closet. If they scare enough law-abiding people into a great mistrust of the government then what?
My #14 – s/b cannot thank the senators enough….MM has “Preview” for a reason, but I seem to forget it at the worst times!
Then they get sent packing in 2010. We must clean the pond of this scum. I firmly believe that if the elections were tomorrow, Nasty Piglosi would be packing her make-up case the next day.
Rights afforded to us?
That statement sums up everything that is wrong with Washington.
The ACLJ is filing a reply Monday as well.
http://www.aclj.org/TrialNotebook/Read.aspx?id=767
My money is on Napolitano ignoring the distinguished Senators, three of which whose campaigns I have donated to.
Why don’t they just show her the door. She is in way over her head.
What the heck is this crap? Honorable?! You gotta be kidding me.
That’s too polite a letter.
Senators Coburn, Brownback, DeMint, Burr, Murkowski, Inhofe, and Vitter all just got put on the terrorist watch list. The DHS, FBI, CIA, and every other alphabet soup agency are setting up surveilance on them now.
If I had submitted this type of “report” in college without any referenced facts, statistics to support my arguments/theories, I would’ve gotten an “F”.
That’s the grade I give to Ms. Napolitano.
The next letter should go out tomorrow.
This one, not “asking” her anything, but demanding her resignation.
Napolitano has got to go.
Don’t the libs want to rewrite the constitution? From the sounds of this report they must already have their draft in hand and be using it.
The fact is that the DHS is now a political agent of the Obama administration. It can not be trusted to protect us against real threats.
Interesting the Sen. McCain’s and Kyle’s names aren’t on the list. She was their governor for crying out loud. Sen. McCain especially should be insulted since, according to her, he’s an “extremist” because he is a war veteran. Shame on Napolitano for sure, but more shame on Mr. McCain and others for not demanding her immediate resignation!!!!
The letter is perfectly reasonable but it misses a crucial point. WHY WAS THIS REPORT ISSUED JUST A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE TEA PARTY PROTESTS?
It is all too obvious that this report was rapidly prepared and an attempt to intimidate those who would go to a Tea Party protest. Also, it implied to police that people at the Tea Parties might in some way be dangerous – although the only apparent incident of note occurred when someone thru a box of Tea bags on the White House grounds. And, since that person has not been identified, they could easily have been a plant intended to stir up trouble. (I used to see such anarchists or other trouble makers at virtually every rally in DC when I worked there.)
Until an explanation of timing and an identification of who threw the box, I remain utterly skeptical of anything the DHS secretary has to say. I would remind her, that her job depends upon citizens trusting DHS. Right now, there are about a million people who have absolutely no reason to trust anything when it comes to DHS.
“Hah! Made you look!”
This administration has perfected the art of distracting its opponents. Obama and Emanual are pushing their agenda forward as fast as humanly possible.
They are achieving this by advancing on multiple fronts simultaneously and distracting conservatives and independents with these type of sideshow actions. They know that speed is essential to their success as is a confused and splintered opposition.
Guys, we are being played and they are winning while we are whining. We must focus our efforts on achieving substantive outcomes.
#32 it was not a coinky dink
No, no, no–No show and tell please! Feelings–it is feelings! The Gay Gal does not need data-she has feelings.
I would remind all of you that MOST of the people who work for DHS are veterans (at least the ones who wear badges and arrest bad guys) – Conservatives too..
And.. almost none of us worked for DHS before March 01, 2003 but we still served our Country – even after we were handed this bunch to deal with.
You’re doing a “Heck of job” Nappy!
Wait! just appoint another Czar to be above the fold for this.
Odopey isn’t Muslim he’s Russian.
How is the DHS any different than the Cheka?
Agreed….everytime something like this comes out, I wonder what they are trying to divert our attention from.
The Devil is certainly in the details, Ms. Janet…. Fork ‘em over sister!!!!
Bob69 , well said, ty sir.
That’s exactly what I have been thinking aj.
Cheka aka The All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Couter-Revolution and Sabotage.
And now we have the Extremism and Radicalization Branch of the Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division.
Lenin must be proud…
Bless them for writing that letter. Good for them!
She needs to answer for that document.
When MM gets riled up, she stays riled. Isn’t it time to move on?
How about the torture memos — Bush systematically ordered torture in violation of US law. Let’s prosecute the perps — Bush, Cheney, and on down. Ordering illegal torture is a more serious crime that schtupping (sp?) an intern and lying about it.
If there is an internal threat it is solely due to our lax border controls.
But we know, the greatest internal threat to the United States resides in the White House.
Act accordingly.
This is a good argument for why we need to revoke the Patriot Act and disband Homeland Security. Al Qaeda should just declare victory. We are being systematically stripped of our freedoms. Why does every problem require that we lose our freedom?
The above Senators put themselves in the same position as the signers of The Declaration of Independence…”traitors” in the eyes of Odopey and his comrades.
Bush never ordered the “torture” of American citizens, lgm! D U H !
At last night’s meeting, our block club decided that we will keep our neighborhood clean and safe ourselves, and not sit back & wait for the local government to do it for us. We will not rely on the government for bailouts, some of us are veterans, some own guns (the 3 ladies in their 70′s, among others)& most of us attend church regularly. Guess that puts us on the “extremist & potential terrorists” list. COOL!
1. 18-35 year old Arabic males acting suspiciously should not be harassed. This is “profiling” and “RAAACIST”. Those who did not vote for Obama though? Fair game. More of the “tolerance for me…but not for thee.”
2. Does anyone remember the punks and thugs that trashed downtown Minneapolis concurrent with the Republican National Convention? And somehow, the Tea Partiers are more radical than those folks?
THIS
IS
FRIGHTENING
YAAAAAAAWN! Wha? Didja just say somethin’?
(Rubs eyes)
When lgm drops in for a poop, he always ends up pooping on himself.
lgm blathered:
Yes it is – so how about you and your comrades take your own advice and MOVE ON – get over Bush already.
I hear the next DHS report is warning law enforcement to be on the lookout for Math teachers wearing spectacles, clutching DNC talking points. Apparently, they are a danger to your intelligence.
Better yet, get out of here, go where your accepted(if there is such a place), like kos crazies, or huff and puff hedonists.
lgm:
One thing is for sure; when you say “schtupping” and “then lying about it” (you forgot under oath)we all immediately think Clinton and then embarassment and humiliation for the USA.
Thanks for the reminder. How about a nice paper cut with some lemon juice poured on top?
I know! After 48 whole hours we’re still pissed about hack bureaucrats calling the people who defend our liberties potential terrorists. Imagaine that.
Would that be the same torture that prompted members of Congress (from both parties) to ask if we were being harsh enough?
Here’s the bottom line that demented whackjobs like lgm will never understand: everything Bush did to prosecute the WoT he did with the full knowledge of Congressional democrats. And 99% of the policies Bush put in place have been continued or even expanded by your secular messiah.
There’s also the small fact that those methods hardly meet any rational definition of torture and that the information gained by using them saved tens of thousands of innocent lives. Not that that matters to the likes of lgm.
I would like to see the entire document made public – - de-classified and put our there on the concept of ‘transparency’which Obama and his cabal likes to claim. There is little doubt that the Obama administration and the Democratic party as now configured, are willing to take away your liberties far and above any that Bush did in the name of stopping ‘terrorists’.
We now have a President and a Sec. of DHS that refuses to use the word terrorist on the people who murdered 3000 people on September 11, but has no problem with calling our military and American citizens ‘terrorists’ for their fundatmental beliefs. We have a press corps that defames average Americans blatantly for protesting against what is happening and a Congress that refuses to listen to the public.
It’s 1984 and and I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take anymore.
Thank you for saying that. It is horrific to think that Americans can’t drive down the road in some states without being detained to have their papers checked.
Every liberty we have lost over the years is through incrementalism. These days, we’re letting the DHS set up ID checkpoints on our roads and in our airports – I still can’t believe that so many people are happy about giving up their liberty.
When I was a kid, these were things that evil Soviets did to their people.
You honestly need to learn from the Spanish government’s example and MOVE ON!!! You now have your precious messiah in power, bootlicker. For someone whose political party is now in power, you’re really a sore winner about it.
Oh, and would you like to communicate that to the 9/11 families and the friends of people who were killed by these people? Or how ’bout the military members these terrorists killed, maimed, or participated in the killing/maiming?
You are not serious. You wouldn’t recognize evil if it chopped your head off and handed your head back to you.
On April 17th, 2009 at 2:42 pm, James Felix said:
“….and that the information gained by using them saved tens of thousands of innocent lives. Not that that matters to the likes of lgm.”
I am hardly lgm, but I am wondering what your source of that statement is. It’s hard to find concrete evidence in the land of the liberal media using Google.
Senators Coburn, Brownback, DeMint, Burr, Murkowski, Inhofe, and Vitter, thank you.
A prisoner from Guantanamo just told Al Jazeera that he is stil being tortured under the Obama administration. Lets prosecute Obama now! Impeach!
Oh lawzy! Is lgm a judge now???
Moral equivalence, lgm-style; Abu Zubaydah slicing off Daniel Pearl’s head=not so bad, putting an insect in Abu Zubaydah’s cramped cell=torture.
I was actually looking for something in testimony from people on the front lines, or at least some research Duncan Hunter also made the same statement, but John McCain said otherwise. (Not that he isn’t a liberal…)
I’m sure it’s out there. I don’t think they’d do it if it didn’t work.
I hope they aren’t holding their breath underwater waiting for an answer….they’ll end up like Mary Jo Kopechne…
Since returning Vets are prone to be recruited for domestic terrorist groups, then we must eliminate the military and turn the Pentagon over to acorn housing, and immediately establish Obama’s civilian army.
Hangfire–could I nominate just ONE exception?
Maybe 23,764 exceptions- but I would start with one–90 days of listening to Miss Hilary’s cackle.
If that does not break him it is hopeless.
Where is Claire Mccaskill for Missouri?
Don’t worry Clair, we won’t ask you to train your replacement in ’12!!
Some guy called into Michael Savage’s show last night claiming that DHS is shipping avian flu all over the country to start an epidemic. Savage didn’t bite, but I wouldn’t rule anything out.
I’m sure Goebbels had a similar list he sent to the Brown Shirts and then the SS in Nazi Germany.
I keep expecting to hear that Nostrildamus is starting an investigation into Janet Napolitano’s “questionable”, politically motivated, hatchet job against conservative Americans. Sort of like his investigation of Bush for rightfully firing the Democratic Prosecutors – the Dems are sure that was politically motivated.
Move on and get over it… like you people have gotten over John Kerry’s humiliating defeat? Like Al Gore’s inability to steal the 2000 election?
We’re just following your lead lgm. Do we have to drag our knuckles when we walk like you guys?
And how about that torture stuff? Looks like Obama has learned the value of prying information out of illegal combatants with a red hot screw driver too.
Since you’re such a brain lgm, teach us all about the rights that ununiformed combatants captured using civilians as a shield have under the Geneva convention.
In case you’re wondering, here’s a list of them.
You have no idea what goes on in AirForce Pararescue, Marine Force Recon or Navy SEAL training virtually every day.
But you are free to sink to the bottom of the pool any time you want and call your congressman to come save you. You just have to hope he/she can pull you up in the next 6 minutes…
So lgm, tell us why slapping the planner behind 9/11 (killing 3,000 people) around is torture condemning the U.S. to eternal hellfire, yet shooting three black teenagers that hadn’t killed anyone is OK (not that I think it isn’t OK. Just making a point.)? Does it come down to who issues the order? Conservative= torture, Libtard=being presidential.
I’ve been out of the service (AF Security Police) for 20+ years and am still waiting to be recruited. Is there something in my file that makes me undesirable to the right wing extremist groups? I go to church, I own guns, I’m opposed to illegal immigration (and associated amnesty), I’m faithful to my wife, I abhor big government, I don’t like our current president and I attended a tea party. I have all the DHS qualifications. Why am I not being recruited? And more importantly, is there money involved?
This isn’t MoveOn.org, moron.
President Obama said he wasn’t interested in prosecuting those “on down” in contradiction of the Nurenburg Trials ruling that “I was only following orders” was not a defense. If you aren’t going to prosecute them, prosecuting their superiors won’t work. BTW, Vice President Cheney isn’t in the Chain of Command, so good luck proving his responsibility.
One more reason President Obama probably won’t push the prosecutions you and the rest of the nutroots want so much is that he sees what implications it may have for whatever actions he and his moronic choice for DHS may take against law-abiding citizens.
Not according to Hillary when she was working on the Nixon impeachment effort.
Hope is not a plan; not all change is good. WE are the civilian national security force. Fire Janet Napolitano! The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST!!!
ECS
Oliver North has posted the whole document on his Freedom Alliance website. He said that in an interview last night. I forgot if he was on Hannity or Greta’s show. Ollie is PISSED OFF about this memo, in a very big way.
That letter written to Ms. Janet was actually very well written. It makes the point very succintly. We all know why that damn thing was sent out when it was. This idiot libs look at everything through their prism of experience. When their side protests, things get broken and damaged. When conservatives protest, they just prove once again, they are law abiding citizens. I think the only arrest reported was some lady who would not get out of the street with her picket sign in one of the cities. OOOOH, what a bad extremist!!!!
Troll Successfully Switches Topic—Film at Eleven.
It’s impossible to prove how many people would have died had we not cracked KLS. It’s possible that a series of freak accidents would have caused the failure of all subsequent attempted attacks, so it’s possible that no lives were affected one way or the other.
However, the intel gained from that evil prick took a lot of terrorists out of circulation. Given that the 9/11 attacks killed 3,000 and that any of those terrorists would have loveed to top it I don’t think what I said is an unreasonable extrapolation.
For the sake of argument though let’s say I’m wrong. Let’s say I’m very wrong, and overestimating by 2000 times. Let’s say that one, single innocent life was saved by waterboarding KLS and his buddies. I say that’s still a bargain.
And if I may go off on a little bit of a tangent here: people like lgm are forever pushing for more and more gun control. It doesn’t matter that the right to own them is specifically written into the Bill of Rights, nor does it matter that no gun control law has ever been effective. They justify their desire to strip away the rights of 150 million law abiding Americans by saying “if it saves just one life it’s worth it!”. But all of a sudden the rights of a foreign terrorist are so important that we’re supposed to sacrifice our lives rather than make him uncomfortable? I’m sorry, that’s just plain demented.
*P-BO and the Clown Cluster will continue to take turns stepping in it; One day JN, the next day EH; Time for Tax Cheat Tim to step up; Haven’t heard from him lately.; They sure don’t need any help from us being possibly the most inept administration ever, from the top on down.
Forget that! Better they should demand that the DHS retract this completely unsupported and biased report in its entirey until they can provide data to support it! “We ask that…”….honest to God, these GOP weenies are a disaster. I’m very, very fired up about this, I’m sorry. Some namby-pamby crap letter to Napolitano is not going to get it done. It’s going to be lawsuits. It’s going to be elected officials pounding their fists on the desk and demanding answers and accountability in very short order. It’s going to take veterans’ groups calling them out immediately to prove up or shut up. What is going on in this country?
Just get a Mexican driver’s license. It’s like a get out of jail free card.
On April 17th, 2009 at 2:14 pm, lgm said:
“When MM gets riled up, she stays riled. Isn’t it time to move on”?
Michelle,lgm is right about moving on.It is time to get us a new troll.
Okay. So it’s vile to prudently point out that returning veterans could be TARGETS for violent rightwing extremism recruitment due to their skill set. And I guess it’s utterly crazy for the DHS to presume that people who are paranoid about their second amendment rights being taken away, may actually be willing to use those weapons to combat any real or PERCEIVED threat to those rights. Nobody is freakishly paranoid about big government taking over their lives or stealing their guns. The 1990s never occurred, huh?
Ohhhhkay. Senators are still playing politics and ignoring logic and MM is still being MM.
It’s going to be a long 8 years. ODS makes CDS look like a mild misunderstanding.
UndyS shakes his head ruefully, clicks submit and goes back to work.
Absolutely excellent!!!! Thank you Senators.
ObamaDHS/JN: Data? We don’t need no stinkin’ data. We just divine this stuff!
The timing on this is impeccable as Obama is traveling to go sit on Fidel’s lap & swap spit with real human rights violators
and folks that hate America as much as he apparently does.
If Obama gets another 4 years America is history. The next 3 will be damaging enough.
So were the American Revolutionaries “freakishly” worried (be nice to have a definition of that) about their rights when they spurned King George’s rule?
What constitutes “freakish paranoia” and having established that, what makes it any more of a concern, say, than the hundreds of students that PHYSICALLY intimidate and shout down speakers at college campii all over the nation?
Why is a non-violent but “freakish” worry of some a threat to the republic, but actual violence and speech of others, simply “dissent” not worthy of Federal concern?
My college professor taught me that right wingers are dangerous extremists that have guns and must be kept down. Why would that report not be true?
It must be ODS that you guys are attacking this excellent report written by a great American Patriot. My Professor also taught me that if you are a Democrat, you are a real patriot.
I learned a lot from that Professor, like how to hold in a bong hit and make firebombs to use against people who try to brainwash me like Fox News.
And one time at band camp…….
Like flenser is want to do, you’re comparing apples and lettuce.
If you have a fear that the government is going to take away your right to bear arms, and take you to “re-education camps” you’re a paranoid freak. People like Michelle Baughman and members of this blog have expressed these exact paranoid fears. If you’re in the woods with weapons preparing for some type of military action in regards to these unfounded fears, you’re an armed and dangerous paranoid freak. Let’s just keep some extra eyes on these freaks. History teaches us that we should.
The liberal freaks that are disturbing the conservative campus demostrations haven’t increased in remarkable numbers since the election. They “typically” don’t use or have guns and explosives.(If you have to go back to the early-mid seventies for a moral equivalence, spare me.). Although it is horribly repugnant to have wannabe hippies disrupting campus speakers, that’s more of a concern of local authorities. These college fools aren’t practicing or preparing acts of terrorism. Being phyically threatening is not an act of terror, and nobody is going to die. Local police and DAs need to do their job.
Speaking of dying:
Bombed abortion clinics,
Oklahoma City, Alanta Olympics, Mcveigh, Nichols, Rudolph, that’s what folks at the DHS are worried about. Remember the 90s? IT’S NOT THE ONLY THING THEY’RE WORRIED ABOUT.
let’s see lgm, china is a permanent member of the esteemed u.n., yet it routinely conducts trials, and kills convicts in a matter of days. torture? well the saudi’s cut off people’s hands for theivery, beat suspects with sticks to obtain confessions. torture? russia, iran, the phillipines,and nearly every country in africa practice real torture, yet they are full fledged u.n. members. to me, torture leaves a mark. if it doesn’t leave a mark, it may be scary and it may make you uncomfortable, but it ain’t torture. people such as you would have us believe talking in a loud voice is torture as is spanking your child. hell we can’t even give them time out, since you want to close gitmo and make these terrorists our neighbors. grow up.
Thanks Senators, letter was nice – but wouldn’t a walk over to DHS and some fist banging on Janet’s desk been more effective?
Hey, hey – check this out –
Read it for yourself:
Link to Download at FreedomAlliance.org
(a 10pg .pdf file)
(apologies if someone else already beat me to the punch here…)
With all the free space @ Gitmo after Osamas sewing circle Graduates, keep an eye out for military personel being given one last posting to Cuba!!
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20
Oh my!! Waterboarding, forced to be naked for a long period of time, sleep deprivation and being covered with caterpillers….Torture? That was what I had to do to join my fraternity!!
The first thing that struck me here was the implication that the constitution “affords” or somehow “allows” us to have rights when it is strictly designed to prevent the government from impeding upon our God-Given rights that no man and no government may take away.
The second thing that struck me was the fact that there is no mention at all about State’s rights and the illegal centralization of a federal government controlling the states (as is so blatantly occurring with alarming frequency … even more so these days)and limiting the rights of the states.
The third thing was the lack of any call to account for the attack on anyone who believes in the Constitution as a whole as well as the Bill of Rights.
While I would like to believe that these politicians were trying to do the right thing, what they do not say here speaks volumes for the misconceptions of our bloated bureaucrats and the danger we do face from the enemy within.
Sorry, but I am not buying it as an argument. I will however, be watching the lawsuits with a great deal of hope and many prayers!
This is too funny click on the J’accuse!!! when you get to the post. So are the comments I do so enjoy villainous company.
http://www.villainouscompany.com/vcblog/archives/2009/04/as_i_suspected.html
If DHS is really serious about terrorist threats – they should immediately disband the mental midgets called the Transportation Safety Administration. Instead of directing their attention (and profiling) to people who want to kill Americans, they instead terrorize little old ladies, infants in strollers, hard working Americans, and MEDAL OF HONOR recipients! (does the name Gen. Joe Foss ring a bell Janet?)
I would ordinarily point my finger in the direction of Patrick Leahy, but this isn’t a case of leaking national security secrets, so it doesn’t fit his style.