Forgive him. He can’t remember what an idiot he is.

The report does not say conservatives are dangerous and violent. It does not say that about veterans.

Isn’t this a contradiction of your previous position, on another thread, and your assertion that it was almost the sole product of the “Bushies?”

The report does not say conservatives are dangerous and violent. It does not say that about veterans. It does say that right wing hate groups like the American Nazi party and the KKK target vets and that vets make up too large a fraction of their membership. That’s the plain truth.

If you know where to look you can still see the repair in the concrete dividing wall…

On April 18th, 2009 at 9:04 am, TK-421 said:

#61, actully depends on the National Guard. The NC ANG is equiped with M1A1 tanks, MLRS, and M2 Bradly IFV’s.

True, I was kidding about that – more of an inter-service rivalry ribbing than fact.

more so I bet all of us and this site are being watched.

And dont think Im not watching that black panel van with the satellite antennae on top that is always sitting down the block from me…. or the telephone repair guy that is always fixing the cable box too ( guys come on, im a technology expert, I KNOW that AT&T does not work on a TimeWarner cable box)

And seriously(j/k), just ask me for a DNA sample, and quit straining my sewer line with a sieve.

But, what is really disturbing and worrisome is that we have too few legitimate journalists to spread the truth about this report so that all those swing voters would realize just who it is they put in the White House and Congress. I suspect many of them (still?) have no idea this is what they were voting for.

But this country, at least a large part of it, has been denigrating our service people and veterans for 40 years now.

By Larry Pratt
September 22, 2007
NewsWithViews.com

VETERANS DISARMAMENT ACT TO BAR VETS FROM OWNING GUNS

Hundreds of thousands of veterans — from Vietnam through Operation Iraqi Freedom — are at risk of being banned from buying firearms if legislation that is pending in Congress gets enacted.

How? The Veterans Disarmament Act — which has already passed the House — would place any veteran who has ever been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) on the federal gun ban list.

This is exactly what President Bill Clinton did over seven years ago when his administration illegitimately added some 83,000 veterans into the National Criminal Information System (NICS system) — prohibiting them from purchasing firearms, simply because of afflictions like PTSD.

The proposed ban is actually broader. Anyone who is diagnosed as being a tiny danger to himself or others would have his gun rights taken away … forever. It is section 102(b)(1)(C)(iv) in HR 2640 that provides for dumping raw medical records into the system. Those names — like the 83,000 records mentioned above — will then, by law, serve as the basis for gun banning.

No wonder the Military Order of the Purple Heart is opposed to this legislation.

The House bill, HR 2640, is being sponsored by one of the most flaming anti-Second Amendment Representatives in Congress: Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY). Another liberal anti-gunner, Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), is sponsoring the bill in the Senate.

Proponents of the bill say that helpful amendments have been made so that any veteran who gets his name on the NICS list can seek an expungement.

But whenever you talk about expunging names from the Brady NICS system, you’re talking about a procedure that has always been a long shot. Right now, there are NO EXPUNGEMENTS of law-abiding Americans’ names that are taking place under federal level. Why? Because the expungement process which already exists has been blocked for over a decade by a “funds cut-off” engineered by another anti-gunner, Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY).

So how will this bill make things even worse? Well, two legal terms are radically redefined in the Veterans Disarmament Act to carry out this vicious attack on veterans’ gun rights.

One term relates to who is classified a “mental defective.” Forty years ago that term meant one was adjudicated “not guilty” in a court of law by reason of insanity. But under the Veterans Disarmament Act, “mental defective” has been stretched to include anyone whom a psychiatrist determines might be a tiny danger to self or others.

The second term is “adjudicate.” In the past, one could only lose one’s gun rights through an adjudication by a judge, magistrate or court — meaning conviction after a trial. Adjudication could only occur in a court with all the protections of due process, including the right to face one’s accuser. Now, adjudication in HR 2640 would include a finding by “a court, commission, committee or other authorized person” (namely, a psychiatrist).

Forget the fact that people with PTSD have the same violent crime rate as the rest of us. Vietnam vets with PTSD have had careers and obtained permits to carry firearms concealed. It will now be enough for a psychiatric diagnosis (a “determination” in the language of the bill) to get a veteran barred ­for life ­ from owning guns.

Be firm, be vigilant, stay free. Beware of posting of your medical records on line–aware and afraid to the point of action.

Napolitano won’t be punished for it, either. Why when, to them, she’s only spoken the truth?

The left’s attitude toward the right is pure bigotry. They don’t need evidence of right wing extremism any more than they need evidence that change is good or that the sun comes up in the morning.

Understand that folks. They don’t respond to reason. They are bigots.