Like an anonymous PayPal-style redirect that makes purchases and mails “gifts”, immune from sales tax because of their locations.

The workaround for this atrocious piece of thievery is incredibly simple.

Even after some deductions, you’ll find they’re paying close to $100,000 in federal taxes.

I’m talking about the “rich” who want liberals in Congress, knowing full well, what that entails…more taxes. They’ve found tax shelters and ways to invest money in their own corporations or overseas to “hide” their money. You think, for example, that Reid, Kennedy and Pelosi willingly support more of their money going into government? I sincerely doubt it. The poor pay no income taxes, so they’re happy about it, ignorant of the fact that what they buy will cost more. And, that’s not mentioning the fact that their car registration just went way up, as well as that car inspection in some states. The really “rich”, know their money is safe…heck, if I was one, I’d make sure of it too.

I have one simple question for you.

WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH?

How much money do I get to keep and how much does the State/Local/Fed get to take away from me?

How is a tax cut for the 95% of Americans (a totally misleading quote if there ever was one) account for all the local/state/fed taxes that Americans currently experience? Chaps, can Americans get a tax cut on all the registration fees, sales tax, property tax, personal property tax, state income taxes, and even federal income taxes?

This Obummer promise is a REBATE and that’s that. Where’s my freaking return in SS and Medicare/Medicaid taxes that get taken out of my paycheck?

I will celebrate the day that Americans grow a brain and realize that the middle class isn’t being hit nearly as hard as the higher income Americans. Yet, when we have to pay back the 13 trillion in debt we owe (or is that quadrillion when you include all the entitlement debt) that WE’RE ALL GOING TO BE TAXED.

Americans really need to get a clue. Oh, and Chaps… this Internet sales tax grab is wrong and your defense of it signifies that none of us are entitled to hang on to our money.

BTW, your various falsehoods, distortions, and outright BS is SHABBY.

I’ve invited you to specify them many times. You have yet to do so. You just weasel away saying crap like “the post speaks for itself.”

Pa-thet-ic.

According to some number I found the average taxpayer makes $51K. So $400 is still at least a 6% reduction in their tax burden. Not too shabby.

When you consider that the money was taken by force from its rightful owner…

it is SHABBY from top to bottom.

It is criminal, if done privately.

BTW, your various falsehoods, distortions, and outright BS is SHABBY.

But in any case setting that aside, fair point about average wages. Some that are figured into that don’t end up paying the income tax (though they still pay payroll taxes on their income). According to some number I found the average taxpayer makes $51K. So $400 is still at least a 6% reduction in their tax burden. Not too shabby.

I think that’s only true if you don’t count the taxes we pay that aren’t income taxes, like the aforementioned employment taxes, sales taxes, sin taxes, property taxes, inventory taxes, and let’s not even get started on the fees.

Just set me on fire already and get it over with.

Besides, the $400 isn’t even a tax cut. It’s a stimulus. The witholding amount declined, but the liability didn’t.

chap is one stupid mofo. A tax on you is not the same as “your taxes”, eh?

Idiot. That is the exact opposite of what I said.

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o chap a tax you can choose to avoid by not buying things isn’t a tax, even though it’s called a sales tax.

No. It is a tax. But it is a tax on a product one voluntarily chooses to purchase, which is fundamentally different than a tax on one’s income.

Never mind if it has been cheaper to buy those things w/o the tax. To chap, if it’s more expensive with the tax, just don’t buy it!!! That, to frackards like chap is “the free market”!!!!

Where the hell did I say it was the “free market”? Cite that post or shut the hell up. Regardless of whether or not the taxes make it more expensive, it is entirely voluntary.

If the Obamarhoids ever pass cap-and-trade, we’ll be sure to hear from chap that THAT isn’t a tax on energy.

Actually, you won’t. But keep trying there, sport.

Next, he blathers about the S-chip program, which is a….legislative program…and not a “tax”…a program to be paid for by taxes or borrowing. Take yer pick.

I said Obama supported S-CHIP, INCLUDING THE CIGARETTE TAX. Which is the relevant part, moron.

Finally, chap betrays any understanding of the federal tax code when he speaks of “average” tax savings. If 40 to 50% (depending on what and how you count) of all “working” Americans pay no federal income tax right now, then how can they get any further reduction?

Well hooooweeee. An actual kinda sorta argument! Shocking! Mommy must be proud! But….First, I am not sure whether you are using the term “income tax” to include any tax on income, including social security and medicare, because of course, people pay into those even if they don’t pay the actual income tax. So saying they pay “no tax” on their income is wrong.

But in any case setting that aside, fair point about average wages. Some that are figured into that don’t end up paying the income tax (though they still pay payroll taxes on their income). According to some number I found the average taxpayer makes $51K. So $400 is still at least a 6% reduction in their tax burden. Not too shabby.

Do members of Congress really want to facilitate a new tax increase right now?

We are nowhere near an election, so what do they care? Bottom line – it’s all about the vote. Nary a statesman/woman amongst them.

On April 21st, 2009 at 5:37 am, graysonret said: Obama promised not to raise taxes (meaning income taxes). The government and him will kill us with indirect taxes. Those of you sitting back, smug, thinking, you don’t pay income taxes at all anyway, you’ll find yourself spending a whole lot more soon, in increased utilities, rent, sales taxes and “fees”

I agree with this point. Obama touted taxing the “rich” but many of the the taxes he’s adding will eventually be paid by consumers of all income levels.

On April 21st, 2009 at 5:37 am, graysonret said: Taxes on the “rich” has always been a farce. They just find new tax shelters and other tax-deferred investments.

But this statement I don’t agree with. “rich” people pay a whole lot of taxes. Even those horrible rich families that Obama hates that make just about $250K a year. Even after some deductions, you’ll find they’re paying close to $100,000 in federal taxes.

Do [Democrat and RINO] members of Congress really want to facilitate a new tax increase right now?

Of course they do. They never met a tax they didn’t like.

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